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Inspiration

The Fear of Not Being Chosen:Why Self-Love Begins With Acceptance

Peter Crone
Peter Crone
Aug 26, 2026
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A single text message, seen by accident two or three years ago, sent Jo into a spiral she could not control. The words—"John doesn't even like her"—were casual gossip between mutual friends, passed along by the man himself during a car ride home. One date. One dismissal. Yet for weeks, Jo couldn't eat, couldn't leave her bed, couldn't move. Her body seized up, folded into itself. She would drive long distances, earbuds in, cranking a podcast at full volume, anything to escape the chatter of her own mind. That sensation—the one that starts at the back of the neck, shoots through the shoulders, and settles in the stomach like a stone—had become familiar territory.

In a conversation with dharma teacher Peter Crone on his podcast Finding Freedom, Jo gives name to something most humans recognize but rarely speak: the terror that nobody will choose us, the conviction that we are fundamentally unlovable, and the devastating power that conviction holds over our bodies and our lives. It's not about the date. It's about what the rejection proves about who we are.

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When Rejection Becomes Identity

What strikes Crone immediately is not Jo's pain, but the magnitude of her response. "Why does something seemingly so small and juvenile elicit such a huge response in your body?" he asks. That question—the gap between the trigger and the devastation—is where the real work begins.

Jo articulates her deepest fear with unflinching clarity: that she will spend her entire life alone. Not that she is currently alone. Not that one relationship failed. But that she will always be the one who is not chosen, that she will miss the love and acceptance already around her because she is looking through a lens of unworthiness, and that even if she finds a partner, the relationship won't stick because she is fundamentally unlovable. She carries this fear "in the forefront of my mind every day, all day," she says. It is not background anxiety. It is the ground of her existence.

Crone doesn't minimize this. Instead, he normalizes it. He names the deeper story Jo is operating from—one she arrived at not through logic but through lived experience: I am not wanted. I am not picked. And he points to something profound: this is not unique to Jo. Many people in relationships stay in ones they know aren't working, he observes, because they fear the alternative—that they might end up alone forever. The story of unworthiness is the water so many of us swim in that we forget it's there.

Shame, Suppression, and the Body's Memory

What emerges across the conversation is a pattern deeper than any single rejection. Jo describes a childhood architecture of emotional suppression. When difficult feelings arose, they were not met with curiosity or acceptance—they were dealt with through distraction, through leaving, through making oneself smaller. The tattoo on her wrist, a container with two open sides, represents her growing intention: to hold space for all of herself. But intention and practice are not the same thing.

She admits she has become "pretty good at trying to escape my own mind." The long drives, the loud podcasts, the constant stimulation—these are survival strategies, not solutions. And they work, in a sense. They keep the feeling at bay. But they also keep her tethered to it. The moment of stillness, the moment she stops running, the blackness returns. A sensation with no words except one: no one cares. no one's coming.

Crone introduces a crucial observation: emotional suppression is not the same as emotional resolution. If you are not willing to be with your own humanness—to be present to your own sadness, your own fear, your own sense of being unwanted—you are, in a fundamental way, rejecting yourself. And if you cannot accept yourself, you will spend your life searching for someone else to provide the acceptance you will not give yourself. This is the trap. This is why the message from John, the dismissal by strangers, carries such weight. It confirms what you already believe about yourself.

The Architecture of Unworthiness

As Crone gently probes Jo's history, a pattern emerges. In childhood, there were moments she didn't feel seen, recognized, or valued. Not from a parent who was cruel, but from dynamics—perhaps a parent's own wounding, perhaps simply the ordinary failures of family to truly witness each other. These are not dramatic traumas. They are the texture of growing up human. But they plant a seed: There is something wrong with me. I am not the kind of person people choose.

By adulthood, this seed has grown into an entire operating system. Jo finds herself comparing herself to others, measuring her worth against their perceived desirability. She suppresses difficult emotions because she has learned, somewhere along the way, that her feelings are too much, too heavy, unwanted. She seeks love outside herself—in the approval of dates, in the validation of being chosen—because she has no internal reference point for being lovable.

When the text message arrives, it is not the cause of her breakdown. It is merely the match that lights a fire that has been waiting to burn. The despair is disproportionate because it is not really about John. It is about the confirmation, at a cellular level, of a story she has believed for a long time.

The Paradox of Self-Rejection

Here is where Crone's teaching cuts deepest. The freedom Jo is searching for—to be loved, to be chosen, to not be alone—is not available to her as long as she is rejecting herself. Every time she runs from her own feelings, she is saying: These parts of you are not welcome. These parts of you are not okay. And if she will not welcome herself, she is sending a signal into the world: Neither will anyone else.

This is not about self-blame. It is about recognizing that we communicate our relationship to ourselves through our nervous system, our posture, our presence. If you are suffocating parts of yourself, if you are trying to drown out the sound of your own voice, people feel that. They may not be conscious of it, but they feel the lack of wholeness, the fracture, the parts that are being held at arm's length.

The invitation Crone extends is radical: instead of working harder to be chosen, to be lovable, to be worthy—make space for all of yourself. The sadness, the fear, the rage, the feeling of being unwanted. Not to wallow in it, but to hold it. To say: This is part of my humanity. This is part of being alive. I make space for it. I don't have to reject it, and I don't have to be controlled by it.

The Container and The Choice

The symbol on Jo's wrist—the container, the two open sides—becomes the work. Not just intellectually knowing that she should accept herself, but actually practicing it. In moments when the feeling arises, the impulse is to run, to distract, to escape. But what if, instead, you stayed? What if you noticed the sensation at the back of your neck, acknowledged the heaviness in your stomach, and simply said: Yes, this is here. I see you. You are welcome.

This is not passivity. It is the most active thing a person can do—to stop warring with yourself, to stop the internal rejection that has been the root cause of all the external seeking. Because when you stop rejecting yourself, the world's rejection loses its power. It doesn't disappear. But it stops defining you.

Crone reminds the listener that this is not a problem unique to Jo. Every human, at some point, feels the sting of not being chosen, not being seen, not mattering. The question is not how to avoid that feeling. The question is: What are you going to do when you feel it? Are you going to run? Or are you going to make space for it, the way the tattoo suggests?

Where to Go From Here

The work begins in small moments. When the urge to escape your own mind arises, pause. Notice what you're running from. Can you turn toward it instead of away from it? Can you be curious about the sensation, the feeling, without judgment? This is not therapy-speak. This is the foundation of genuine self-love: the willingness to be present to all of yourself, not just the parts you think are acceptable.

Consider also: Where did you learn that certain parts of you were unlovable? Who in your life made you feel unseen? What story did you write about yourself based on that experience? And is that story still serving you, or is it time to rewrite it? Not through positive thinking, but through the slow, patient work of accepting yourself exactly as you are—fractured, scared, hopeful, human. The freedom you've been searching for in someone else's eyes has been available all along. It was always yours to give yourself.

Transcript

[0:00] Hi, this is Peter Cone and you're

[0:02] listening to Finding Freedom. This

[0:04] episode I get to speak to Joe on a topic

[0:06] that I consider to be one of the most

[0:08] sensitive for all humans and something

[0:10] that I assert is going to really touch

[0:12] all of you because it really appeals to

[0:14] one of the main characteristics of what

[0:16] it is to be human, which is at times in

[0:18] our lives where we feel rejected, not

[0:20] wanted, and the distinct feeling of

[0:22] shame and hurt that comes with any

[0:24] feeling of isolation. So I thank Joe for

[0:27] her courage in sharing the times that

[0:29] she's felt not even seen or even

[0:31] recognized so that you might find that

[0:33] part within each of you and discover

[0:36] that that is just an aspect of the human

[0:38] conditioning and in fact the opportunity

[0:39] [music] for us to develop even more love

[0:42] for ourself. I hope you enjoy this

[0:44] episode of finding freedom and as part

[0:46] of my commitment to you to step into

[0:47] this new iteration of what it is to be a

[0:49] 2.0 human in this 2.0 in a world where

[0:52] we can live from freedom, love,

[0:53] possibility, vitality, and abundance.

[0:56] And above all, find more freedom.

[0:59] >> Welcome to uh finding freedom. And uh I

[1:04] know you have a tattoo. Do you want to

[1:05] show the folks at home?

[1:07] >> It's meant to be a container, two sides

[1:09] of a square.

[1:10] >> Just the symbol to mean all of it.

[1:13] Include all of it.

[1:14] >> To make space for all of it. Okay. I

[1:16] love that. So, just for those listening,

[1:19] if you could just let us know the main

[1:20] thing that you're keen to look at. I

[1:24] know it's in the arena of relationships,

[1:26] but I'd love for you to just explain

[1:27] where you're at so I can both hold space

[1:30] for you, the container like on your arm,

[1:32] and everyone at home can start to get

[1:34] related.

[1:35] >> Mhm.

[1:36] >> Sure. So, my submission is sort of

[1:39] centered around an experience I had two

[1:42] or three years ago.

[1:43] >> Mhm. where I saw a text message about me

[1:46] or I saw a text conversation about me

[1:50] >> and I sort of registered it loosely and

[1:54] then the following day a few of the

[1:56] words stuck out and every time I thought

[1:58] about those words

[2:01] I would get a sensation not a nice

[2:03] sensation that would go down the back of

[2:05] my neck to my shoulders and then it

[2:08] would sort of shoot to my stomach.

[2:10] >> Mhm. And there was a period of about 10

[2:13] 10 days to two weeks where I couldn't

[2:15] eat. I struggled to get out of bed. I

[2:18] felt paralyzed in my own body, which

[2:20] sounds weird, but it this thing would

[2:22] just

[2:24] like I would go into brace sort of and

[2:26] then sort of lie in the fetal position

[2:28] and not move basically all day.

[2:31] >> Yeah, I get it.

[2:32] >> I can say more on that. But in terms of

[2:34] present day, it's not so dramatic. But I

[2:37] sort of feel the the micro versions of

[2:40] it in that I'm I get a buildup sometimes

[2:44] of this like blackness in my mind of my

[2:46] body which doesn't really have any

[2:48] language, but the closest I've come to

[2:50] is like no one cares or no one's coming.

[2:53] >> Yeah.

[2:54] >> If I think about it too much, it builds

[2:56] up and I get to the same place in my

[2:58] body of feeling paralyzed. So I've I've

[3:01] come pretty good at trying to escape my

[3:03] own mind.

[3:04] >> Yeah. which is what I did on repeat back

[3:07] then. I would go for really long drives,

[3:09] put a podcast on, usually you really

[3:12] loud in my car.

[3:15] Uh just anything to distract me from

[3:17] thinking about those words which I'm

[3:19] guessing point to something a lot

[3:20] deeper.

[3:21] >> For sure. No, I get it. And I know

[3:23] that's a horrible feeling and can be

[3:25] very heavy and depressing and um

[3:28] hopeless. You know, you obviously said

[3:30] powerless as well, but to give context,

[3:32] what what were the words you read and in

[3:34] what regard was it? It was the end of a

[3:36] relationship or

[3:38] >> it was I'll change the I'll change the

[3:42] name, but it was a guy's name.

[3:43] >> Yeah.

[3:44] >> Say John. It said John doesn't even like

[3:46] her.

[3:47] >> Meaning me.

[3:48] >> Yeah.

[3:49] >> It was a guy that I'd just been on a

[3:51] date with. So, there was more to the

[3:53] conversation, but those were the words

[3:55] that stuck out. And

[3:59] where I get stuck is

[4:02] why do why does something seemingly so

[4:05] small and juvenile uh elicit such a

[4:10] [snorts] huge response in my body?

[4:12] >> Yeah.

[4:12] >> And so I don't

[4:15] [clears throat] I have tried to talk

[4:16] about it like I went to therapy. I tried

[4:17] to tell my mom. I emailed some friends

[4:19] and was

[4:20] >> as transparent as I I could be about

[4:22] what had happened. But it was just this

[4:24] shame of like

[4:26] as I said in my video, I know I would

[4:28] never take my own life,

[4:30] >> but those words would do something where

[4:32] it got to the point where this thing

[4:34] would overcome my mind and I wasn't in

[4:36] control of it anymore

[4:38] >> and I didn't know what I would do under

[4:41] its control.

[4:42] >> Yeah.

[4:43] >> Um because someone didn't like me

[4:44] because a boy didn't like me. [laughter]

[4:46] >> Yeah. No, I understand. It's one date.

[4:48] But then if you want to expand on that,

[4:50] what is the concern like the bigger

[4:52] picture as it relates to relationships

[4:53] as a whole and and Joe's future?

[4:57] >> There's a few. I think the main one is

[4:59] that that I will miss or that I do miss

[5:03] the love that is around me and the

[5:04] acceptance that is around me because I'm

[5:06] looking through whatever that lens is.

[5:08] Yeah. And

[5:08] >> so I can't see

[5:12] realness and real friendship and real

[5:14] people who do

[5:17] like me or accept me.

[5:19] >> Yeah.

[5:20] >> And that I won't be able to see, find,

[5:23] or sustain a real connection or a

[5:26] relationship.

[5:28] >> The idea that you're just going to spend

[5:29] the rest of your life by yourself,

[5:31] >> that's definitely a fear and it's really

[5:33] embarrassing to say. It's in the

[5:36] forefront of my mind every day, all day.

[5:38] It's

[5:39] >> It's just there.

[5:40] >> I get how embarrassing that is to say,

[5:42] to use your words, but I I think you'd

[5:44] be pleasantly surprised. Might seem like

[5:46] an oxymoron in this case, but how many

[5:49] people feel the same, right? Meaning

[5:51] that they also have that fear. And they

[5:53] might be in a relationship that right

[5:54] now they know is not really great or

[5:56] that they want to leave, but they're too

[5:58] scared to leave for the fear of that

[6:00] they might then end up being by

[6:02] themselves for the rest of their life,

[6:03] too.

[6:04] >> H

[6:05] So, I really, you know, commend you on

[6:08] having the courage to come and have this

[6:09] conversation with me and I'm excited to

[6:12] show you what's on the other side of it.

[6:13] But I do, at least for now, want to make

[6:16] space for and, you know, have compassion

[6:18] for everybody who has this part of them

[6:20] as the human experience, right? Which is

[6:23] who am I to end up in a beautiful

[6:24] relationship? Who's going to pick me?

[6:26] Who's going to love me? I'm going to be

[6:27] by myself. Even if I meet someone, it's

[6:30] not going to work out. They won't like

[6:31] me. Like, you know, your your friend

[6:33] John. Um what just out of curiosity

[6:37] where where did this transpire? Like cuz

[6:39] this was a text message on someone

[6:40] else's phone. It wasn't obviously to

[6:42] you. Like so you said you saw this

[6:45] message. Like how how did that occur?

[6:49] >> Uh so John actually showed it to me. He

[6:53] he was showing me a conversation between

[6:55] two mutual friends who were having a

[6:57] good old gossip about us.

[6:59] >> Oh. Oh. So okay.

[7:01] >> He was giving me a lift home. Yeah.

[7:04] And was he particularly showing you that

[7:06] part or you just happened to see that?

[7:09] >> Those I he showed me the whole thing.

[7:12] The context was just like these guys are

[7:14] sticking their nose in when it's not

[7:16] their business. But those were the words

[7:18] that stuck out and stuck with me. So he

[7:20] wasn't yet specifically showing me that

[7:21] part though.

[7:22] >> Got it. Okay. Okay. Fine. So you know

[7:25] you're smart, you're savvy. You've

[7:27] listened to my work. you drive off into

[7:29] the countryside and crank my podcast at

[7:31] loud, you know, volume to try and ignore

[7:33] the chatter of your mind. What would you

[7:36] say might be one of the stories that Joe

[7:38] has about herself if this is, you know,

[7:40] so devastating to you, which I totally

[7:42] understand and have compassion for?

[7:48] >> I don't know, which is why I'm here, but

[7:51] I'm guessing logically it's something

[7:54] in the realm of not being wanted or

[7:58] picked.

[7:59] >> Yeah.

[8:00] And do you have any and and that's

[8:02] accurate and that's where I would go. Do

[8:05] you have any points of reference from

[8:07] your own history, you know, growing up?

[8:09] It sounds like you have, you know, you

[8:11] spoke to your mom, you said, so I'm

[8:13] guessing you have a caring mom at least.

[8:14] I don't know the situation with dad but

[8:16] you know give us any in indications that

[8:19] this might have been a story that you

[8:21] developed somewhere along the line

[8:24] school parents

[8:28] >> so I don't have one particular sort of

[8:32] standout memory but there are lots of

[8:34] little ones where I had the same sort of

[8:36] like sensation

[8:38] >> which was I would notice my beautiful

[8:41] best friends get looked at

[8:44] >> every Like when we walked into a public

[8:45] space and I would notice that it was

[8:48] never me.

[8:50] >> Mhm.

[8:50] >> You know, no one said anything nasty. It

[8:53] was more just like

[8:55] [snorts] I know I don't fit the mold

[8:58] right now of what is

[9:01] attractive and

[9:03] >> yeah,

[9:05] >> desirable.

[9:07] >> Yeah.

[9:07] >> So, I've had that Yeah. through my teens

[9:09] and 20s and now 30s in social occasions.

[9:12] That's what I notice I'm looking out for

[9:15] >> when I arrive, during, and when I leave.

[9:19] >> Many memories like that. And I've always

[9:21] had really beautiful best friends. So,

[9:24] >> it happened a lot. And I remember there

[9:26] was one instance at music college where

[9:28] my best friend at the time, she got hit

[9:31] on by a girl and I was like, "Fuck sake,

[9:35] like I cannot gut a break." [laughter]

[9:39] >> Not just men picking your friends. Now

[9:41] even women are wanting my friends but

[9:43] not me. Right.

[9:44] >> Yeah. It's funny now but it really hit

[9:47] me at the time.

[9:48] >> Mhm.

[9:49] >> So that Yeah. There's been many uh many

[9:52] instances like that.

[9:53] >> Yeah.

[9:54] >> Yeah. The not not wanted, not picked. I

[9:57] can hear that. And and just without

[9:59] going there too much because I know it

[10:01] hurts. But what what's it like to live

[10:03] inside of that the who Joe is is the one

[10:06] that's not picked. She's the one that's

[10:07] not wanted. Everyone else is being given

[10:10] the love and adoration and attention.

[10:17] It's okay. It's important to feel.

[10:26] [snorts] I don't know what how to

[10:28] articulate what it feels like.

[10:31] Like it's got to the point

[10:33] in the sort of cascade of how it happens

[10:35] that there aren't any there's no

[10:36] language anymore. It's just like I see

[10:39] no. I see no. I see no. [snorts]

[10:41] >> Mhm.

[10:42] >> And I'm I'm in adult language,

[10:45] separation. Like I'm just observing the

[10:49] world around me. People getting

[10:51] together, people getting married, having

[10:53] kids. [snorts]

[10:54] >> Yeah.

[10:56] >> People in a new relationship,

[10:58] another one,

[11:00] >> right?

[11:01] >> Um I wish I had more language for it,

[11:04] but it's just

[11:05] >> No, you're doing great. and beyond

[11:06] language as a woman. I really want you

[11:08] just to feel it like what does that feel

[11:10] like? Like you know, okay, even the last

[11:12] time you saw your friend who was picked

[11:14] up or hit on by a girl, you know, and

[11:16] then you've got all the other episodes

[11:18] where all these guys are hitting on,

[11:20] friends are getting married, friends

[11:21] have got partners. What does it just

[11:23] feel like to be the one that's left out?

[11:30] >> [ __ ]

[11:31] >> Yeah. No, it's fine. It does. It feels

[11:33] [ __ ] Yeah.

[11:35] Is that where you feel it in your

[11:37] stomach?

[11:40] >> Yeah. I think

[11:43] the closest I've come in language where

[11:46] I've really felt it like that kick in

[11:48] the stomach is that I'm a joke. I

[11:50] remember sharing those words with a

[11:51] friend.

[11:52] >> Mhm.

[11:53] >> And it's not I know I used rejection,

[11:55] but it's not even it's like it's not

[11:57] even rejection because you have to be at

[11:58] least be registered or considered to

[12:01] then

[12:01] >> Yeah.

[12:01] >> be rejected. So,

[12:03] >> it's like not considered like invisible.

[12:06] >> That's what I was going to say. Forget

[12:08] rejection. You're not even considered.

[12:09] You're not

[12:10] >> Yeah. Not even seen. [laughter] Yeah.

[12:12] >> Yeah.

[12:13] >> Not even seen in the first place. No, I

[12:15] get it. Do you um just to

[12:18] [clears throat] give me some context? Um

[12:19] do you have siblings?

[12:21] >> Yes, I do. I have a brother. Younger

[12:23] brother.

[12:24] >> Younger brother. And do you remember

[12:27] like what's the age difference?

[12:28] >> Just over a year, year and a half. Not a

[12:31] big difference. No. Okay. Do you have

[12:33] any kind of memory of like what it was

[12:36] like when he arrived? Because sometimes

[12:37] when there's a younger sibling, the

[12:39] oldest one who only knows attention can,

[12:42] and again, I'm not leading the witness

[12:44] or trying to plant any seeds here, but

[12:45] can sometimes feel like, oh, I can

[12:48] distinctly remember as soon as my

[12:49] younger brother, younger sister arrived,

[12:51] I suddenly became sort of put to one

[12:54] side. Do you have any of that kind of

[12:57] experience?

[12:58] No, I

[13:01] I've I've thought about that in depth

[13:03] before when I was in therapy and they

[13:06] brought up a similar thing.

[13:08] >> Um

[13:11] actually to the point where I left

[13:12] because I just didn't resonate at all.

[13:15] So if if that is something then

[13:20] >> I' I have no recollection of it and it's

[13:22] >> right it's just deep

[13:23] >> never something I felt in my [snorts]

[13:24] childhood or [clears throat]

[13:26] >> adulthood.

[13:27] >> Yeah. Well, kudos to your parents then

[13:29] for because you know through no fault of

[13:32] their own, it's very common that parents

[13:34] start to put all of their attention on a

[13:35] young baby just because the baby needs

[13:37] more attention, you know, but given the

[13:40] closeness of your age, if it's older, if

[13:42] they're three, four year gap, you know,

[13:44] their 3 four year old can take a little

[13:45] bit more care of themselves. So, it can

[13:48] give the impression of being dismissed a

[13:50] little bit, but I don't hear that. So,

[13:51] that's great.

[13:52] >> So, so let's look at the aspirational

[13:55] part of this, right? like so not not not

[13:57] wanted, not seen, not even considered.

[14:00] Um, but clearly Joe would love a

[14:03] relationship, right?

[14:06] >> Yes. [laughter]

[14:08] >> I hate admitting that, but yes, for

[14:10] sure.

[14:10] >> Well, let's look at that. Why do you

[14:12] hate admitting that?

[14:17] >> Cuz it sounds needy and it feels like

[14:22] it's coming from an unhealthy pl like a

[14:24] desperate place. Yeah.

[14:26] >> And I,

[14:29] you know, it I have patterns of choosing

[14:31] people purely because they chose me or,

[14:34] you know, in some small way and I don't

[14:37] want to do that,

[14:38] >> right? No, I get it. So, let's just

[14:41] let's just do the old um hypotheticals

[14:43] for fun, right? So, let's just say, god

[14:46] forbid, there's some lunatic person out

[14:48] there who actually chooses Joe. You

[14:49] know, they've lost their mind.

[14:51] >> [laughter]

[14:52] >> They're like

[14:53] >> last resort.

[14:54] >> Last resort. They're desperate and it's

[14:56] like okay, [laughter]

[14:58] [gasps]

[14:59] messing with you obviously. So if but if

[15:03] we we work past this, which we're going

[15:05] to I mean I have absolutely zero doubt

[15:07] that this is going to completely

[15:08] radically change your life. But do

[15:11] [clears throat] you have aspirations to

[15:12] have your own family?

[15:14] >> Yeah.

[15:15] >> Yeah. You'd be a wonderful mom.

[15:17] >> So let's just look at that part, right?

[15:20] So, this is always uh so fun for me

[15:24] because,

[15:26] how do I phrase this? The way that

[15:27] people look at their situations tends to

[15:29] be not the place to look in the first

[15:31] place. So, for you, it's obvious, right?

[15:32] You go out, you're in a public space,

[15:34] you see your beautiful friends getting

[15:36] hit on or they have partners or they're

[15:38] married, they're talking about family,

[15:39] and then here's little old Joe. Woe is

[15:41] me. You know, no one's going to see me.

[15:43] No one's, you know, you've got this

[15:45] cognitive bias, meaning before you've

[15:46] even left your own building, your own

[15:49] home, there's the trepidation, right, of

[15:51] like, oh, well, I want to go out cuz I

[15:53] want to see my friends, but why would I

[15:54] go out cuz all I'm going to experience

[15:56] is, you know, this dismissal energy

[15:59] again. No one's going to notice me,

[16:00] right?

[16:01] >> Fair.

[16:02] >> Yeah. Yes. [snorts]

[16:04] >> So, I guess I have one question.

[16:07] For work, are you a fortune teller? Is

[16:09] that what you do for work?

[16:11] >> No. [laughter]

[16:13] Just just curious because you seem to

[16:15] have it all figured out about what's

[16:16] going on.

[16:17] >> I've got it all figured out. Yeah. No.

[16:19] >> Yeah.

[16:19] >> I have no idea.

[16:21] >> No. Which would be actually quite

[16:22] refreshing for you if you could start to

[16:24] live from there, right? Because I'm just

[16:26] going to be straight with you. Like do

[16:27] you absolutely know that for the rest of

[16:29] your life? You said you're 32 now or how

[16:31] old are you?

[16:32] >> 32. Yeah.

[16:33] >> 32. So for the rest of your life, do you

[16:35] know that no one's going to pick Joe?

[16:38] >> No.

[16:39] >> No. But can you see that

[16:42] >> does happen ironically?

[16:43] >> Pardon?

[16:44] >> It does happen sometimes, but

[16:46] >> yeah, shocker.

[16:47] >> I can't see [laughter] it.

[16:50] [gasps]

[16:52] >> Well, here's the irony, right? Like, so

[16:54] there's there's a 8 billion people out

[16:56] there. Like, if we did the math, I don't

[16:57] know what it is, you know, like let's

[16:58] say roughly half of them are male. So,

[17:00] there's like 4 billion. Of course,

[17:02] they're across the gamut of ages, you

[17:04] know, anywhere between 0 to 18. I'm

[17:07] going to guess you don't skew below 28

[17:09] or 27, you know, you don't want to date

[17:11] a boy. So, you know, that probably

[17:14] eradicates a good third of that. So,

[17:16] maybe down to three billion. And then at

[17:18] the other end of the spectrum, you know,

[17:19] 50 plus or whatever. So, maybe there's

[17:21] another two. But there's probably a good

[17:23] billion out there that, you know, at

[17:25] least let's just say 500 million, you

[17:27] know, men that are of suitable age. We

[17:30] could rule out different belief systems,

[17:32] alcoholics, you know, drug addicts,

[17:34] maybe certain religious tendencies. I

[17:36] don't know what you're into, but by the

[17:38] time we get down to it, you know,

[17:39] there's definitely a few million

[17:41] [laughter] men who could be potential

[17:43] suitors, right?

[17:45] >> Yeah. Yes.

[17:46] >> So, the irony is that it's not the

[17:49] absence of potential people out there.

[17:51] It's the proclivity you have, the

[17:53] tendency, the cognitive bias for you to

[17:56] skew your view. Right. So, it's it's

[17:59] your view of you, which is ironically

[18:02] your relationship of you.

[18:04] >> Yeah. So, you know, I'm just going to

[18:07] cut to the chase. So, you said right at

[18:09] the beginning, one of the things you do,

[18:10] and I listen, I have all the sympathy,

[18:12] compassion in the world. I get it. You

[18:13] know, only child, my parents died. I

[18:16] could definitely lean into feeling

[18:17] completely isolated, alone, no one's

[18:19] picking me. Wasn't so much in that vein,

[18:22] but it's definitely a feeling of

[18:23] complete separation, which is horrible,

[18:25] right? So, I get it. Now, when you feel

[18:28] that and it's the stomach and it's the

[18:30] weight across your neck and your

[18:31] shoulders and it feels hopeless and you

[18:34] don't want to listen to that part of

[18:36] you, you said you maybe go for a drive

[18:38] and you'll listen to a podcast or you

[18:40] want something loud to kind of drown

[18:42] that out, right?

[18:44] >> Yeah, for sure.

[18:45] >> So, now look at that behavior

[18:48] and I'm just going to be straight with

[18:50] you. What are you doing to that part of

[18:53] you with that choice of action?

[18:56] avoiding it.

[18:58] >> What else?

[19:01] >> Shutting it down, not listening,

[19:04] wanting it to go away, dismissing it.

[19:07] >> So, can we start to maybe make the

[19:10] correlation?

[19:13] Why am I asking you that question? See,

[19:16] this isn't Joe. This is a part of your

[19:18] conditioning. Everything that confines a

[19:20] human being, the limits, the

[19:21] constraints, these are conversations.

[19:23] It's not the essence of who you are.

[19:25] Like in in this case, your perceiving

[19:27] self definitely is I'm not wanted. I'm

[19:29] not picked. I'm not even considered. I'm

[19:32] less than. You know, it's all in that

[19:34] realm, right?

[19:35] >> Yeah.

[19:36] >> That's a story. But is that are those

[19:39] conversations who you are?

[19:43] >> Is that who you are?

[19:45] >> No.

[19:45] >> No. They're just conversations. But

[19:48] again, just to reiterate, to strengthen

[19:50] it, what are you what is your approach

[19:52] to those conversations? Bearing in mind

[19:54] what you said about driving and

[19:55] listening to a loud podcast

[19:58] >> that I don't want it.

[20:01] >> So, can you see the irony? There's a

[20:04] part of you that feels not wanted and

[20:07] your approach to it is to reinforce that

[20:10] you don't want it by trying to drown it

[20:12] out, not listen to it, make it wrong.

[20:16] >> Yeah.

[20:18] I guess I'm I'm

[20:22] It's scary because I don't know what

[20:24] where it's going to take me. But yeah.

[20:28] >> Okay. So So now I'm going to come full

[20:30] circle to the method of my madness and

[20:32] how I do what I do. Right. So I asked

[20:34] earlier, you know,

[20:35] >> madness,

[20:37] >> complete madness, wizardry, should we

[20:39] call it then.

[20:40] >> Yes.

[20:41] >> So your desire, aspiration, 32, you want

[20:45] to have a family. You want to obviously,

[20:47] you know, whether you get married or

[20:48] whatever, you have a partner, but you

[20:49] you'd love to be a mom, right? So, let's

[20:52] cut to the future, you know. Let's say I

[20:54] I'm confident you'll meet someone within

[20:56] a year easily. You could easily have

[20:57] kids within 3 years, you know. So, let's

[21:00] say you're 35, you've had your first

[21:02] baby, and now cut to you're 40, you got

[21:05] a 5-year-old, they just started

[21:07] kindergarten,

[21:09] and by virtue of being a child in an

[21:11] environment with a lot of other kids

[21:12] that don't know what the hell they're

[21:13] saying, but they've learned things or

[21:15] they're mean or whatever, your your

[21:17] beautiful little daughter comes home and

[21:19] she's crying,

[21:21] right? And it's because she wasn't

[21:23] picked for whatever was going on at

[21:25] kindergarten or primary school or

[21:26] whatever the first grade was, right? She

[21:28] wasn't included. She She didn't make the

[21:31] music. She didn't make the cheerleading.

[21:33] She didn't Whatever it is, fill in the

[21:34] blank, right?

[21:36] >> So, she comes home. It's your daughter

[21:39] and she feels completely rejected,

[21:41] excluded, not even considered.

[21:44] How how what is your response to her?

[21:55] Big hug. Really sorry.

[21:59] It's not true.

[22:05] >> What emotion do you would you want to

[22:07] her to presence from you? She comes

[22:10] home. She's devastated. She wasn't

[22:12] picked for something. She'd felt left

[22:14] out. You've hugged her. That's a

[22:15] physical expression. But what emotion

[22:17] would you want to her to feel the most

[22:19] from her own mom?

[22:22] >> Presence, care,

[22:25] love, attention. Yeah, let's just stick

[22:28] with love.

[22:30] >> Yeah,

[22:31] >> I'm going to guess even though I've only

[22:34] known you for whatever 20 30 minutes

[22:37] that you would even feel that kind of

[22:39] love whether you, you know, categorize

[22:41] it as love, compassion, sympathy,

[22:43] empathy, but they're to me all bed

[22:45] fellows. Even if you saw a friend of

[22:47] yours, this beautiful friend who's had

[22:49] married and her daughter is sad, you

[22:51] would feel that. That's what I present.

[22:52] That's what I see in you. let alone your

[22:55] own daughter who's devastated. I I can't

[22:58] if I'm in the kitchen or wherever when

[23:00] she walks home, all I see is you maybe

[23:02] even in tears picking her up and saying,

[23:04] "Oh, honey, it's okay. I love you so

[23:05] much."

[23:07] >> Can you see that's a natural response,

[23:09] right?

[23:10] >> Yeah. Yeah.

[23:12] >> Now, let's take that little girl and put

[23:14] her inside you as your own nervous

[23:16] system right now.

[23:19] Doesn't feel wanted, doesn't feel

[23:21] included, doesn't even feel considered.

[23:24] And what are you doing to her?

[23:29] >> Same thing.

[23:31] Not including

[23:32] >> What have you been doing?

[23:34] >> Not including her.

[23:36] >> Not just not not not only in not not

[23:39] including her, but trying to drown her

[23:42] out.

[23:44] >> Yeah.

[23:45] >> So, this is what you're doing. Follow

[23:46] along. Right. Your daughter comes home.

[23:48] She's been excluded. She's devastated.

[23:49] She's crying. She feels absolutely

[23:51] hopeless, useless, not even considered.

[23:54] You're like, "Honey, I've got just the

[23:56] solution. I want to hear all about it.

[23:58] Let's get in the car." You put her in

[23:59] the car, and you blast music as she's

[24:01] trying, the little 5-year-old is trying

[24:03] to talk to her mom, and you're not even

[24:05] looking at her.

[24:11] >> Yeah. I don't know how.

[24:15] You don't know how one

[24:19] >> I don't know how to be with that.

[24:21] >> I know. It's okay. But I want you to

[24:24] consider this is your training ground.

[24:29] You You're being given the greatest gift

[24:31] right now for the precursor to all

[24:34] relationships. I guarantee you right now

[24:36] as I say these words and the millions of

[24:38] people hopefully around the world who

[24:40] are getting to listen to this

[24:41] conversation, there's not one of them.

[24:43] Many are already in tears, but there's

[24:46] not one of them who doesn't relate to

[24:48] the feeling of at times in their life,

[24:50] maybe right now, feeling not wanted.

[24:54] Not one. Do you understand that?

[24:56] >> Yes.

[24:57] >> This is an intrinsic part of the human

[25:00] operating system that doesn't work. Is

[25:02] why we suffer, right? like limitation,

[25:04] fear, suffering, disease, scarcity.

[25:06] These are the inherent pillars of the

[25:08] current operating system that we don't

[25:11] by default feel that we're like God's

[25:13] gift to relationships. We don't by

[25:15] default think that everybody loves us.

[25:17] We don't by default think that, you

[25:19] know, we're like the greatest thing

[25:21] since sliced bread, you know. No, people

[25:24] by default think that there's something

[25:25] wrong with them. They're not wanted.

[25:27] They're not loved. So, yeah. I hate to

[25:29] break it to you, but welcome to the

[25:31] human experience.

[25:32] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[25:33] >> What better what better backdrop against

[25:37] which you get to learn how to find love

[25:40] and compassion than your own stories of

[25:44] inadequacy?

[25:47] >> Yeah, that's the

[25:50] that's the integration. That's the game.

[25:53] >> Well, let's look at the tattoo again.

[25:56] Hold it up and tell us what that tattoo

[25:59] represents.

[26:05] It represents

[26:08] the inclusion of all of it.

[26:12] >> Seems like there's a little bit of

[26:14] >> the little girl that feels rejected.

[26:15] Yeah.

[26:16] >> Oops. [snorts]

[26:18] You have a tattoo of a cup, a chalice,

[26:21] whatever you call it, on your wrist that

[26:23] for you is representative of the

[26:26] beautiful inclusive energy which I call

[26:29] love. that is accepting of all parts

[26:32] only that you have a tattoo like

[26:34] literally permanently on your wrist and

[26:36] you're saying yes this is what I stand

[26:38] for I include all parts oh just not the

[26:40] part of me that doesn't feel included

[26:43] [laughter]

[26:44] >> yeah I get the irony of that yeah

[26:47] >> yeah not only the irony it's the

[26:50] complete barricade to you finding love

[26:52] with other people

[26:55] of my expressions early on I said if you

[26:57] don't love and accept yourself what

[26:58] makes you think other people should

[27:02] I mean feel that that should be a bit of

[27:04] an ouch.

[27:08] >> Yeah.

[27:10] >> So you're walking around saying who you

[27:12] are and again it's not who you are but

[27:13] your conditioning your energetic

[27:15] signature the way that you present to

[27:16] the world unconsciously is I'm

[27:18] unacceptable. I'm not even considered.

[27:20] I'm definitely not wanted. That's who I

[27:22] am. Hi, nice to meet you. And then

[27:24] you're surprised that there isn't this

[27:26] plethora of men just lining up to be

[27:28] your suitor.

[27:32] >> Yeah.

[27:34] >> Now, I don't deny that it hurts, but we

[27:37] want to be able to shift from victim,

[27:38] which is the mode you're in, to

[27:40] responsible responsibility.

[27:43] Right now, as you've probably heard me

[27:45] say this before without even thinking

[27:47] about it, because you haven't until I

[27:49] ask a question. Do you have on your

[27:51] physical body anywhere a scar of any

[27:54] kind? Small, larger, or indifferent?

[27:56] >> Yeah.

[27:58] >> Whichever one you're willing to share.

[27:59] Where do you have one?

[28:00] >> Oh, uh,

[28:05] >> got loads. I have one on my finger from

[28:08] a like a like a knife cut.

[28:11] >> Okay, great. Which finger?

[28:14] >> This one.

[28:15] >> Okay. Your left right index finger.

[28:18] Okay, great.

[28:18] >> Index finger. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, great.

[28:20] So, before I asked you where you had if

[28:22] you had any scars or where were they,

[28:24] were you thinking of that scar on your

[28:26] right index finger?

[28:27] >> No.

[28:28] >> No. But but you're not trying to get rid

[28:30] of it, right? You're not going for a

[28:31] drive in the country cranking the music

[28:34] and throwing paint over your right hand

[28:35] so you don't see it.

[28:37] >> No. No.

[28:38] >> It's allowed to be there.

[28:40] >> Yeah.

[28:41] >> So, here's a question. Can you with me

[28:43] right now start for the first time ever

[28:45] in your life to allow the part of you

[28:48] that feels not wanted, not considered to

[28:50] be there?

[28:55] >> Yeah.

[28:58] >> That's all it's asking for. See, you've

[29:01] got it as though you're looking for

[29:02] somebody to want you, right? You're

[29:04] looking for somebody to pick you. You're

[29:06] looking for somebody to recognize you in

[29:08] the outside world.

[29:10] >> Yes.

[29:12] Yeah. Sorry. Yeah.

[29:14] >> Yeah. Desperately.

[29:16] But the outside world is a mirror of the

[29:18] inside world. And the inside world is

[29:20] you're completely denying, rejecting,

[29:22] dismissing, pushing away, ignoring,

[29:25] overriding the part of you that wants to

[29:27] be picked.

[29:30] >> Yeah.

[29:31] >> So, here's the irony. The access to

[29:33] being loved and accepted in the world is

[29:35] for you to love and accept the part of

[29:37] the part of you that feels not wanted.

[29:43] That's the gift of that part of the

[29:45] code.

[29:47] >> Yeah.

[29:48] >> If you wanted to get a strong right

[29:50] bicep, what might you do?

[29:55] >> Work out.

[29:57] >> Specifically, if you wanted to get a

[29:58] strong right bicep, what might you do?

[30:02] uh lift a dumbbell.

[30:04] >> Yeah. On the right arm, right?

[30:06] >> Yeah.

[30:07] >> So, if you want to get a strong right

[30:10] bicep, you know that you need the

[30:12] resistance, the adversity of the

[30:14] heaviness of a dumbbell in your right

[30:16] hand.

[30:19] Do you see that?

[30:21] >> Yeah. I I I

[30:23] suppress

[30:26] most negative emotions, which is why I

[30:29] got which is why the message of

[30:30] including all of it is so freeing

[30:33] because I don't subconsciously do that.

[30:36] >> Okay, I know. But this is what we're

[30:38] working on right now and why there's so

[30:40] much resistance, right? To stay with the

[30:41] metaphor, you know that if you're going

[30:43] to want to strengthen your right bicep,

[30:45] you have to put some sort of weight

[30:47] significant in your right hand and do

[30:49] curls, right? That's how you're going to

[30:51] strengthen that bicep.

[30:54] >> Yeah. Okay.

[30:56] >> How do you think we're going to help Joe

[30:59] to become better at being empathetic,

[31:01] compassionate, all accepting, and allow

[31:03] and make space for all of it? What would

[31:05] be one of the quotequote equivalent

[31:07] dumbbells for her to be able to learn

[31:09] that capacity to love?

[31:16] Um,

[31:18] I've had experiences of it with friends,

[31:20] with like people who can hold that space

[31:23] for me. I guess I have to practice on my

[31:25] own.

[31:26] >> Well, you can get rid of the guest.

[31:27] That's the only thing that's missing.

[31:30] You have a tattoo that says make space

[31:32] for all of it. And yet, you're not doing

[31:34] that.

[31:38] Like,

[31:38] >> no. Sorry. I

[31:41] >> like you're a sweetheart. I don't deny

[31:43] your capacity to love, but your capacity

[31:45] to love right now is being completely

[31:47] compromised by your denial of a part of

[31:50] your humanity.

[31:54] Like you said, you suppress negative

[31:56] feelings. I get it. How do you think

[31:58] that's going to work in a relationship?

[32:01] >> Yeah, I know. I know. I don't

[32:05] >> Are you going to meet some guy who never

[32:06] gets negative? You're going to meet a

[32:07] guy who's just like the poster child for

[32:09] positivity, optimism, you know, happy

[32:12] golucky all the time.

[32:15] Do you think that guy is going to be

[32:17] like a real real human?

[32:23] No negative thing emotions, no worries,

[32:26] no stress,

[32:27] >> gets laid off from work and is just like

[32:29] coming home bouncing like the, you know,

[32:32] [ __ ] at the end of the rainbow and

[32:33] life is good. Or do you think that you

[32:35] might have a partner from time to time

[32:36] who's going to deal with the stress of

[32:39] heartache? You know, that maybe his

[32:40] parents have gone into hospice, god

[32:42] forbid, one of them's died, maybe his

[32:43] brother's just gotten cancer, maybe he

[32:45] gets laid off from work.

[32:50] >> Yeah,

[32:51] >> probably more realistic.

[32:52] >> I would never want to to put that on

[32:54] anyone.

[32:56] >> Yeah, but you do it readily to yourself

[32:58] 24/7.

[32:59] [laughter]

[33:02] >> Yeah. No, I get that. I just

[33:08] I I I mean I feel a lot and I feel a lot

[33:12] alone. So when I do feel stuff I I shut

[33:16] the door and I guess I only feel safe to

[33:18] do that on my own. But then it kind of

[33:21] keeps coming back. So it's not resolved

[33:23] if I'm having

[33:24] >> Why do you think it keeps coming back?

[33:26] >> I don't know. Cuz I felt it a lot.

[33:30] >> No, you felt it with resistance.

[33:33] Okay.

[33:35] >> You felt it with lack of acceptance.

[33:39] Imagine again your daughter, she's come

[33:41] home from kindergarten, first grade,

[33:43] whatever. Same sort of scenario. And she

[33:46] has something to show you like that is

[33:48] really, really, really important to her.

[33:50] But you're the mom and maybe you have a

[33:52] newborn and they're 6 months and you're

[33:54] breastfeeding. And mommy, mommy, mommy.

[33:57] Your daughter who's five or six is

[33:58] trying to get your attention, but you

[34:01] have other things you're attending to.

[34:02] And then your husband comes home and he

[34:04] wants something and you have to put food

[34:05] together and you're in the middle of

[34:06] doing laundry, but your daughter keeps

[34:08] coming back. Why does she keep coming

[34:10] back?

[34:12] >> Cuz she hasn't been heard.

[34:14] >> Bingo.

[34:16] That's all that's happening is there's

[34:18] the part of you that is so hurt, that

[34:20] feels so rejected, that feels unseen,

[34:22] not even recognized, that keeps coming

[34:25] back because you haven't made space for

[34:26] it yet. It's not included in that tattoo

[34:28] on your on your wrist.

[34:32] Can I ask a question?

[34:33] >> You of course you can.

[34:36] >> For those times where I have felt it

[34:41] like in its fullness

[34:43] >> where I feel safe enough for to not for

[34:45] it to not go anywhere too dark.

[34:47] >> Yeah.

[34:47] >> Is that just that I haven't

[34:49] >> that hasn't actually been in its

[34:50] fullness yet? Like I haven't gone fully

[34:52] there.

[34:54] >> Two things. You've gone fully there in

[34:56] terms of feeling it. So imagine you're

[34:57] walking along

[35:00] um just a pathway and you come across in

[35:02] the woods a big well like a big hole and

[35:05] you find out that you you you can hear a

[35:07] voice and you can't see cuz it's very

[35:09] dark and it's very deep but your friend

[35:12] is at the bottom of the well you're like

[35:13] holy [ __ ] like what are you doing down

[35:14] there John let's keep John alive for now

[35:18] [laughter]

[35:19] right

[35:21] and even though he didn't like you know

[35:23] you care enough that [laughter] you know

[35:26] he's

[35:27] rescue John still. No, I don't know

[35:29] anyone called John. So, go [ __ ]

[35:31] yourself. [laughter]

[35:33] >> Go [ __ ] yourself, John. [gasps]

[35:36] >> Nothing [clears throat] great. You just

[35:37] stay in the well. Going to turn up the

[35:39] podcast with me [laughter] in your in

[35:41] your earbuds, right? Yeah. No. So, you

[35:44] got a friend who you genuinely care

[35:45] who's down the well.

[35:47] >> Feeling the part of you that feels

[35:49] rejected is jumping down the well and

[35:50] being with them.

[35:53] >> That's Yeah, that's funny.

[35:57] >> [laughter]

[35:58] >> funny but not right. Yeah. You're all

[36:01] you're doing is you're being in the

[36:03] emotion. You're being in the story of

[36:06] not rejected. You're feeling sorry for

[36:08] yourself versus this is the distinction

[36:11] recognizing that part of your

[36:14] conditioning is simply part of the human

[36:18] disposition.

[36:20] It's not you.

[36:21] >> That's true.

[36:22] >> There you go. It's

[36:27] And you thought you were smart.

[36:29] [laughter]

[36:31] >> I know none of it's true, but I haven't.

[36:35] It's not true. But it is nonetheless the

[36:38] mechanism for you to embrace your

[36:40] humanity, which is one of the biggest

[36:44] and I would assert only important

[36:46] precursors to having a good relationship

[36:49] because you can't be with another human

[36:51] if you can't be with your own humanness.

[36:55] It's so juvenile. [snorts]

[36:58] >> It is. And that's why I just said I

[37:00] choose my words very carefully and very

[37:03] consciously. This is my dear the

[37:05] opportunity, the opportunity for you to

[37:08] practice motherhood right now as a

[37:10] precursor to you being an actual mother

[37:12] in the real world

[37:14] and you've been pushing away your

[37:16] daughter. It doesn't make you a bad

[37:17] person. It just means you weren't quite

[37:19] ready or you didn't get it. You were

[37:20] just feeling with her as opposed to

[37:22] holding her feelings.

[37:27] Do you see the difference?

[37:29] It's no different than that scar on your

[37:31] right index finger.

[37:35] >> So, who is it that decides that she's

[37:38] worth holding?

[37:40] >> You, the essence of you, the conscious

[37:41] self, the being, the soul, the spirit.

[37:45] Love, the energy of love

[37:48] makes space for everybody. And

[37:50] especially somebody who's hurt.

[37:53] [laughter]

[37:53] What are you talking about?

[37:54] >> It's so funny that I have this. I don't

[37:56] even care.

[37:57] >> I mean, hello. That's why I keep [ __ ]

[37:58] referencing. It's like you got a

[38:00] freaking tattoo on your own forearm that

[38:03] is representing the very antithesis of

[38:06] the energy you claim to want to be.

[38:13] I didn't know I was doing that. I

[38:14] thought I was I [laughter] thought by

[38:16] feeling it that was including it.

[38:20] No,

[38:20] >> but it's not.

[38:21] >> It's not.

[38:24] I love that you have the ability to feel

[38:26] it.

[38:28] >> That's beautiful. That shows incredible

[38:31] compassion, amazing sympathy and

[38:33] empathy. You have beautiful qualities.

[38:35] You'll be an incredible friend. You'll

[38:37] be an incredible heart partner. You'll

[38:39] be an incredible mother. But you just

[38:41] collapsed your feeling with somebody

[38:43] else's versus making space for them,

[38:47] holding them

[38:50] and distinguishing it as a part of you.

[38:53] It's like you getting upset because you

[38:54] have two arms. It's like what? You know,

[38:58] that's an inherent part of the human

[38:59] genetic, you know, code of having two

[39:02] arms in our anatomy. It's like you don't

[39:03] get upset about it. You you doesn't even

[39:06] until I even pose that question, you're

[39:07] like, well, that's bizarre. Why would I

[39:09] get upset about that? That's just part

[39:10] of being human.

[39:12] I'm so upset my beautiful friends have

[39:14] three arms. [laughter] It's like,

[39:18] no, you know that that's part of the

[39:20] human anatomy. Well, guess what? Part of

[39:22] the human anatomy emotionally and

[39:23] psychologically is the feeling of

[39:25] inadequacy, not wanted, not not loved.

[39:29] That's just part of it.

[39:33] >> So now it becomes whoopde-doo. Oh yeah,

[39:35] there's a part of me by the way that

[39:36] feels not wanted. And sometimes it might

[39:38] show up in our relationship, especially,

[39:40] you know, when you're with whoever's

[39:41] next and they are seemingly distracted

[39:45] or they haven't responded or they

[39:47] haven't come home at the time they said

[39:49] they would. You know, in a beautiful

[39:51] vulnerable relationship, you could say,

[39:52] "Honey, I know this is my thing, but

[39:56] sometimes when I don't hear from you

[39:58] when you said you'd call or it feels

[40:00] like you're not giving me attention, I

[40:02] go into the part of me, the part of me

[40:04] that feels not wanted. I know that's

[40:06] mine, but I just want to share that with

[40:09] you as somebody who would probably love

[40:10] to hold space with me for that part of

[40:13] me. Do you see?

[40:16] >> Yeah.

[40:16] >> That's beautiful. That's vulnerability.

[40:18] >> That's a very calm way of putting it.

[40:20] [laughter]

[40:21] >> Versus your desperation screaming

[40:24] through the countryside with a podcast

[40:25] wearing. Yeah. [laughter]

[40:30] >> But can you see how beautiful, powerful,

[40:31] and loving that is now? you're making

[40:33] space for you and with the right partner

[40:35] and and if that partner dismisses that,

[40:37] well then that that's not the partner

[40:38] you want to be with. You want somebody

[40:40] who can include your humanness, but they

[40:42] don't stand a chance to include your

[40:44] humanness if you even don't.

[40:49] [snorts] How do I include the part

[40:51] that's

[40:53] scared

[40:56] it's

[40:58] it's going to kill me? That's the part

[41:01] I'm scared of that I'm that I'm really

[41:02] trying to drown out because I know

[41:04] that's not true. But it's really

[41:07] >> uncomfortable to feel.

[41:10] >> Yeah. Well, listen, it's the same part.

[41:14] If there is a part of us that by design,

[41:17] which is the human part, feels not

[41:20] wanted, rejected, not considered, not

[41:22] even seen, then its experience is

[41:25] there's no point being here.

[41:28] primordial imperative of a human being

[41:30] of any mammal is to survive. We want to

[41:31] belong. We need to be part of the tribe.

[41:33] Right? So if it feels and from you the

[41:37] host or the hostess not wanted, it's

[41:40] like well then [ __ ] it. I might as well

[41:41] be out of there.

[41:44] My own my own being doesn't want this

[41:47] part of me. The very fabric of who you

[41:50] are and why you're here is to integrate

[41:51] these parts of you. And you as the

[41:53] hostess of your own conditioning is

[41:55] rejecting your own conditioning.

[41:58] So the death is to the part of you to

[42:01] that part of you that feels not seen,

[42:04] not wanted, not even considered. That's

[42:06] the death to that part of you. Here's

[42:08] the irony. Death happens through

[42:11] integration.

[42:15] That's the hardest part I think of the

[42:17] the levels is the

[42:20] letting it be rather than letting it go.

[42:23] >> Yeah. Right. Yeah. You've heard me say

[42:25] before, the ego doesn't want to be

[42:26] healed. It wants to be held.

[42:29] >> Like it's the same thing with your right

[42:31] index finger scar. You didn't try to get

[42:34] rid of it.

[42:36] You didn't try and kill it. It's there.

[42:38] You integrated it. So that means it's

[42:40] now gone. But it's there. But it's gone

[42:42] because you you allowed it.

[42:44] >> We're back to the [ __ ] tattoo on your

[42:46] wrist again.

[42:49] >> Yeah.

[42:52] >> So, it's really I love me, which

[42:55] includes all the parts of me, including

[42:57] the part of me that doesn't feel

[42:59] lovable. What What better mechanism to

[43:02] develop self-love? If you loved every

[43:05] part of you, if listen, I with no slight

[43:08] towards your beautiful friends, whoever

[43:09] they are, and I don't know if they're

[43:11] beautiful, that's just the cognitive

[43:12] biased lens that you look through. But,

[43:15] you know, let's for argument sake say

[43:16] they are and they've got all this

[43:17] attention. I feel sorry for them

[43:21] more so than, you know, for you because

[43:23] you've got the instrument, you've got

[43:25] the mechanism to learn true self-love.

[43:28] If all they've gotten is love, and I've

[43:30] seen this so many times with people I've

[43:31] worked with who are famous, who are

[43:33] rich, who are gorgeous, who are models

[43:34] or whatever, they'd never learn. They

[43:36] never had to learn to make space for

[43:38] their own humanity because everyone else

[43:40] did it for them.

[43:42] >> Yeah, I see that.

[43:44] >> Then it shows up when they're 40, 50,

[43:46] and things fell apart. Now they really

[43:48] are a [ __ ] mess because they didn't

[43:49] learn the skills.

[43:52] So maybe it's like, "Thank you, Lord,

[43:53] for not having this like line of dudes

[43:56] trying to like possess me so that I can

[43:58] learn to make space for myself first."

[44:04] >> Yeah.

[44:06] >> I tell you, listen, if you really get

[44:08] what I'm telling you, this is going to

[44:09] happen so [ __ ] quickly for you.

[44:14] Like, you could meet someone next week

[44:16] and that could be the partner for the

[44:18] rest of your life. If you really embody

[44:21] the energy of complete inclusion, of

[44:22] allowing all of it, all parts of you,

[44:24] those that particularly feel rejected,

[44:26] not seen, not wanted, you just stepped

[44:29] into the mastery of relationship.

[44:34] Cuz how on earth do you think you're

[44:36] going to make space for the little boy

[44:37] and the guy you're going to meet who

[44:38] feels he's not good enough and because

[44:40] he doesn't earn enough money compared to

[44:41] his friends who are millionaires? or,

[44:43] oh, my buddy just bought this really

[44:45] fancy boat and I feel bad cuz I want to

[44:47] buy that for you. But like, what are you

[44:50] going to do? Just reject him because he

[44:52] has that part of him that feels

[44:53] insecure?

[44:58] >> No, of course not.

[44:59] >> Of course not.

[45:02] Do you see? You're being given the

[45:04] foundation for the mastery of

[45:07] relationships. You're being given the

[45:09] greatest obstacle, which is our own like

[45:12] self-rejection.

[45:14] You've just bought into it and and

[45:16] compounded it. And now it's like, "Oh,

[45:19] oh my god, it's actually really [ __ ]

[45:21] adorable. There's a part of me that just

[45:24] feels unlovable. There's a part of me

[45:26] that actually feels beyond unlovable,

[45:28] not even seen.

[45:30] What a great opportunity for me to make

[45:33] space for that. for me to see that part

[45:34] of me, for me to recognize that part of

[45:37] the human conditioning is to feel that

[45:40] sense of inadequacy and insecurity. I

[45:42] guarantee you right now, Joe, there are

[45:43] people with tears in their eyes because

[45:45] they're recognizing that same part in

[45:47] them. You're already already making

[45:51] relationships with people you probably

[45:53] will never meet because you're helping

[45:55] them to find that form of relationship

[45:57] with themselves as we speak.

[46:01] >> Yeah,

[46:01] >> that's pretty cool.

[46:03] Yeah.

[46:05] >> How does that feel now?

[46:09] >> I guess I'm I'm thinking back to

[46:13] when it happened and what there was a

[46:15] moment where it kind of all just

[46:16] disappeared really quickly.

[46:19] >> Um and it was it was the word shame

[46:23] and it was like I was so ashamed of my

[46:26] experience that I wasn't letting it

[46:28] happen.

[46:29] >> Yeah. I guess cuz I don't know where

[46:31] that shame comes from. I don't know why

[46:34] it shows up.

[46:36] I don't know how to then include it.

[46:40] Maybe I don't need to know where it

[46:41] comes from. It's just sometimes people

[46:44] feel ashamed about how they feel. So

[46:47] give it the finger and don't even let it

[46:51] arise in the first place.

[46:52] >> Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

[46:54] wait, wait, wait, wait. Do we like your

[46:56] daughter comes home, she feels shame

[46:58] because she'd messed up the exercise.

[47:00] She the friends of hers made fun of her

[47:03] painting, you know, because they were

[47:05] doing a painting class and all her

[47:06] friends laughed at her and she came home

[47:08] to mom with shame. Do you give her the

[47:10] finger?

[47:12] >> Definitely not. No,

[47:13] >> no, [snorts] definitely not. So, do you

[47:15] see you just did it again? Shame is the

[47:18] experience of that young girl who feels

[47:21] so embarrassed that all her friends are

[47:23] being picked and she's not. That's

[47:24] that's a horrific feeling.

[47:27] >> It's not the shame of that. It's the

[47:29] shame of that I feel

[47:33] >> that it affects me.

[47:35] >> Oh, okay. Right. Okay. Get it. Yeah.

[47:37] Which is two sides of the same coin. So,

[47:39] the shame that you're you're human

[47:42] >> and that that you don't want to feel

[47:44] bad,

[47:45] >> but then do you see how preposterous

[47:46] that is, too?

[47:48] >> Yeah. Kind of. I'm getting there.

[47:52] >> Yeah. Do you want to give your finger to

[47:54] that part of you that is feeling a bit

[47:56] embarrassed that you won't make space

[47:58] for the part of you that feels rejected?

[48:01] Or can you see that's another part of

[48:03] just being human?

[48:08] >> Yeah, I'll try. Yeah.

[48:11] >> Well, I get it. I want to be with you.

[48:13] It's not a try thing. It's a do or you

[48:15] don't.

[48:16] >> Yeah.

[48:16] >> Do you have a problem with the fact that

[48:18] you have two arms?

[48:21] >> Why not?

[48:24] They're really handy. I use them a lot

[48:26] and they came with a baggage. [laughter]

[48:29] >> No pun intended. They're very handy.

[48:32] >> Oh, I didn't see that.

[48:35] >> They're very useful. Yeah,

[48:36] >> they're useful because they allow you to

[48:38] do things, right? They give you like

[48:40] mobility and Yeah. So now apply the same

[48:44] distinction or perview on the part of

[48:48] you that feels rejected.

[48:51] That could be handy for what reason?

[48:56] What would be handy for a human being,

[48:58] particularly a woman who has aspirations

[49:00] to be a mother, to have a part of her

[49:02] that feels sometimes rejected or not

[49:04] chosen?

[49:06] >> I'm thinking now it's more

[49:09] it's the thing on top of that. It's the

[49:12] letting something affect me. That's what

[49:15] I'm not allowing.

[49:17] Or is that the same thing?

[49:19] >> It's well, it's part of the same

[49:20] mechanism. But just listen to what you

[49:23] said.

[49:25] You want to be in a relationship. Yes.

[49:29] And I'm going to assert part of being in

[49:30] a relationship are all the things that

[49:32] come with it. Love, being inspired,

[49:35] being moved, being touched,

[49:38] right?

[49:39] creating memories.

[49:42] I would say all of those belong in the

[49:44] bucket of allowing life to affect you.

[49:46] [laughter]

[49:49] >> Yeah. Okay.

[49:54] And I guess when I was young, I didn't

[49:58] every time it happened in school, I

[50:00] didn't let it affect me. So, it just

[50:02] built up.

[50:03] >> Yeah. It's just accumulated over time,

[50:05] which is why it feels a little bit

[50:06] overwhelming or intense, that's all.

[50:08] Yeah.

[50:09] >> You know, think again of your girl, your

[50:11] little daughter is coming home wanting

[50:13] to show you a picture or whatever she

[50:14] did at school and you keep ignoring her.

[50:17] One of two things is going to happen.

[50:18] Short term, it's going to escalate,

[50:20] right? She's going to probably get

[50:21] louder, more consistent, scream more, do

[50:24] whatever it is to get and then then she

[50:25] might become apathetic and quit. That's

[50:27] the dying part. It's like what's the

[50:30] point?

[50:32] So, you've got both sort of still at

[50:34] play. There's that voice in you that is

[50:37] desperate for you to include it, to

[50:39] allow it, to love it, to accept it, to

[50:41] recognize it's part of your humanity.

[50:46] Okay. Yeah. It's getting all muddled in

[50:51] my head, but it's like I was ashamed to

[50:54] feel shame.

[50:55] >> Yeah.

[50:56] >> To feel. I was ashamed to feel shame to

[50:59] feel.

[51:00] [snorts]

[51:00] >> Yeah. And it's why people get anxious

[51:02] about being anxious. [laughter]

[51:05] It's like the thing, the trigger, but

[51:06] then

[51:07] >> the the reaction.

[51:09] >> Yeah.

[51:10] >> Like I'm not allowed to react.

[51:12] >> Yeah. Which is asinine when you look at

[51:15] it as you are a human who is a sentient

[51:18] being who has no choice but to react

[51:21] whether it's expressed or not.

[51:23] Internally you're going to react.

[51:27] So what you're saying is I'm human but

[51:29] I'm not allowed to be human. Okay. Good

[51:31] luck.

[51:32] >> Have fun with that.

[51:33] Do you see how preposterous that is?

[51:36] >> I do.

[51:37] >> And [snorts] then you want to be in a

[51:38] relationship with another human. It's

[51:39] like, okay, that's going to go really

[51:41] well. [laughter]

[51:42] >> Yeah.

[51:44] >> Yeah. We've got to feel.

[51:47] >> Yeah.

[51:49] Like I don't know many people who feel

[51:51] to the depths that I feel. And I love

[51:53] that about me because I make space for

[51:55] it.

[51:57] I don't know many people who care as

[51:58] much as I care. And that's not in any

[52:00] way to dismiss people's capacity to

[52:02] care. There's some incredibly caring

[52:04] people out there, but most people are

[52:05] caring through the lens of survival.

[52:07] It's not sort of the absence of the

[52:10] ability to care, but it's just sort of

[52:11] right now prioritized towards their own

[52:14] selfish needs, which I totally get. But

[52:17] real care is when you've you've

[52:18] addressed your own needs. You've

[52:20] integrated them. You've allowed them.

[52:22] Now I can really show up and be present

[52:24] in relationships. That's why I'm saying

[52:26] you couldn't even have a relationship

[52:27] because you're not even allowing space

[52:29] for your own experience.

[52:32] Okay. [laughter]

[52:38] >> And here's the beauty, Joe. You become

[52:41] such a more attractive woman, human, and

[52:45] girlfriend, partner, wife, when you make

[52:47] space for all of you.

[52:55] Isn't that nice?

[53:01] Yeah, I I can't imagine

[53:07] I can't imagine going to work or just

[53:10] being around the house in my day-to-day

[53:12] life just feeling everything I feel

[53:13] like. It's kind of frowned upon to maybe

[53:17] it's a British thing, I don't know. But

[53:20] like it's a bit much, isn't it? To

[53:25] to feel things really intensely all the

[53:27] time. like it's

[53:28] >> well, we don't know cuz you've never

[53:30] done it.

[53:31] >> Okay.

[53:33] >> And here's my assertion. Yeah, the first

[53:35] few days, maybe the first couple of

[53:37] weeks, it might seem intense, but then

[53:39] it's going to normalize. It's just

[53:42] accumulated.

[53:45] You know, it's like saying it's frowned

[53:47] upon to like, you know, do laundry or

[53:49] show your dirty laundry in the house. So

[53:51] you just keep show, you know, shoving it

[53:53] in a cupboard somewhere and you got

[53:55] three decades worth of dirty laundry.

[53:59] You could definitely [laughter] argue

[54:03] >> Yeah,

[54:03] >> right. You could then argue, yeah, well

[54:06] [ __ ] it's What if I just bring all my

[54:07] laundry out? Well, yeah, you got three

[54:09] decades. It's going to be a little

[54:11] uncomfortable to begin with.

[54:14] >> But give it a couple of weeks and you've

[54:15] worked through it. Now you're like a

[54:16] normal person. You got one basket.

[54:18] That's manageable. Do you see? Same with

[54:21] your emotions and your feelings. Yeah,

[54:22] there's a backlog, but it doesn't work

[54:24] like that emotionally and and

[54:26] intellectually as it does with the

[54:28] material world. Meaning, yeah, you might

[54:30] have a few more days where you're a

[54:32] little bit more emotional, you have more

[54:33] depth, but it it it transpires very

[54:37] quickly on that level.

[54:40] >> Okay.

[54:41] >> Do you see that?

[54:44] >> Yeah. I'll uh I'll give it a go.

[54:47] [laughter]

[54:48] >> Yeah. Yeah.

[54:49] >> Watch out world.

[54:50] >> Watch out world. Joe just decided to

[54:52] show up and actually be human. God

[54:54] forbid.

[54:56] >> Yeah.

[54:56] >> So what I hear in the background is yes,

[54:58] maybe okay that you don't necessarily

[55:00] have these recollections of a bad

[55:01] childhood or that when your brother was

[55:03] born a year later that you suddenly were

[55:06] pushed aside, but maybe you did, you

[55:08] know, were raised in a family where, as

[55:11] is often the case, kids that have been

[55:13] seen and not heard. So you learned to

[55:14] suppress yourself a little bit. And that

[55:16] is partly British. I know I was a very

[55:18] good boy growing up.

[55:24] So another story to look at, my dear,

[55:26] might be you're not free to be you.

[55:30] Can you see that?

[55:33] That could be another context. Joe's not

[55:36] free to be her.

[55:40] >> I get really angry.

[55:43] Yeah,

[55:44] as you should. Because that's complete

[55:47] suppression. That's tyranny.

[55:56] [snorts] What's it like walking around

[55:58] feeling, believing that you're not free

[56:00] to be you?

[56:06] >> Like there's me and there's the wall.

[56:09] >> Yeah. It's like it's just heavy and

[56:14] there's nowhere to go. Suffocating.

[56:16] >> Yeah.

[56:17] >> Suffocating.

[56:18] >> Yeah. Well, this feels like maybe the

[56:21] big catch all that hasn't been

[56:23] expressed.

[56:25] Here you are. Is Is it possible for you

[56:28] to not be you?

[56:33] >> No.

[56:34] >> I try but Yeah. No.

[56:36] >> Yeah. You try, but you can't cuz you're

[56:37] there. I can see you. I can hear you and

[56:39] everyone around you can, you know,

[56:41] definitely feel your presence and hold

[56:43] you, right? You you you exist and then

[56:46] the story you live in is yes, I exist,

[56:48] but I'm not allowed to.

[56:52] [snorts]

[56:52] >> That would piss off anyone.

[56:54] >> Yeah.

[56:58] >> Yeah, I see that. I feel that.

[57:01] >> Yeah.

[57:03] And that would help to reinforce what

[57:05] we've just been talking about, right? is

[57:06] that you're not allowed to have your

[57:08] feelings.

[57:11] You can't be seen. You can't be

[57:12] recognized. So again, this makes even

[57:14] more sense energetically with

[57:15] relationships is you don't even allow

[57:17] yourself to be seen. Then why would

[57:19] anyone else see you?

[57:22] You don't allow yourself to be. So why

[57:24] would anyone want to be with you?

[57:31] And they do time and time again. And I

[57:35] I don't let it.

[57:36] >> No, of course you can't

[57:38] >> get angry at them. [laughter]

[57:39] It's not their fault.

[57:40] >> Yeah, I see that. I see the pattern.

[57:43] >> Yeah, that's all it is. This is all

[57:44] we're talking about in all of my work is

[57:46] we're just revealing patterns,

[57:48] conditioning, and code.

[57:50] >> You're living in a in a story that you

[57:52] feeling

[57:54] >> inadequate, not considered, not seen,

[57:56] shouldn't be there. You shut it down.

[57:58] You flip the bird to it. You take it out

[58:00] to the countryside with loud podcasts.

[58:03] not realizing that's just part of your

[58:04] humanity. [laughter]

[58:06] You start to see how preposterous it is,

[58:08] right?

[58:09] >> It's a great image.

[58:11] >> Yeah. [laughter]

[58:12] >> I had to get petrol a lot.

[58:17] >> So, not only you denying your own

[58:19] experience of being human, you're you're

[58:20] wasting a lot of money on gas.

[58:22] [laughter]

[58:23] >> Yeah.

[58:25] >> A lot of your content is free. So, thank

[58:27] you to buy [laughter]

[58:30] >> soothing podcast.

[58:32] >> Yeah. Yeah, it's funny.

[58:34] >> So, not only now do you get to have all

[58:36] your feelings, you're going to have a

[58:37] bit more cash cuz you're not [laughter]

[58:38] wasting burning, you know, gasoline

[58:41] driving around the countryside. Yeah.

[58:43] [laughter]

[58:45] It's a win-win. And all of it sits in

[58:48] the bigger container, which is Joe can't

[58:50] be Joe. [snorts]

[58:52] Good luck with that one.

[58:54] It's crazy

[58:56] to come full circle to think that I

[58:59] remember thinking I wish I wish my one

[59:02] of my parents

[59:04] had sat me down at that point and said,

[59:07] "By the way, we've never told you this,

[59:09] but when you were five, someone

[59:12] kidnapped you and held you at gunpoint

[59:14] or something really dramatic so that I

[59:16] could be like, "Oh, now I get why all

[59:20] this stuff happened so intensely."

[59:22] >> Yeah. And I don't I don't have that

[59:26] reference point of where I became so

[59:28] afraid of my own mind that I just run.

[59:31] >> Not literally, but

[59:33] >> I have to have noise.

[59:35] >> Yeah.

[59:35] >> To escape my own mind.

[59:38] >> Yeah.

[59:38] >> It's like there's nowhere to go.

[59:42] >> Precisely. Which is why you're learning

[59:44] the most powerful tool any human being

[59:46] can learn, which is presence and love.

[59:51] >> [ __ ] Yeah.

[59:52] >> [ __ ] [laughter]

[59:55] >> Yeah, I don't want to do that.

[59:58] >> Okay. Well, good luck with the rest of

[1:00:00] your life running away from yourself.

[1:00:02] Let me know how that works out.

[1:00:08] You see how preposterous it is, right?

[1:00:10] Like you're literally trying to get away

[1:00:12] from the you that you are

[1:00:14] with all of its conditioning and all of

[1:00:16] its beauty and all of its kindness and

[1:00:18] all of its neuro neurosis. And that's

[1:00:21] the humanity. That's the beauty. That is

[1:00:23] self-love. It's making space for all of

[1:00:26] it. Like I don't I've never met anyone

[1:00:28] with that tattoo. Exactly.

[1:00:30] You've literally declared it through ink

[1:00:33] on your own skin. Now you get to step

[1:00:37] into that energy.

[1:00:40] I've never thought of making space for

[1:00:42] shame. I thought it was

[1:00:45] hurt and anger and rejection, but

[1:00:50] shame I never thought I would have to

[1:00:52] make space for

[1:00:54] >> just

[1:00:54] >> or was something that I wasn't making

[1:00:56] space for.

[1:00:57] >> Hurt and anger, the byproducts of the

[1:00:58] shame that we feel. There are people out

[1:01:01] now listening who are hiding in their

[1:01:03] car, in their office, in their cubicle,

[1:01:05] on a bus, on a train, listening to this,

[1:01:09] who are hurt because of the shame they

[1:01:11] feel. like they might be sitting on an

[1:01:13] airplane right now and they're they're

[1:01:14] shameful because they've got an eating

[1:01:16] disorder and they think the person next

[1:01:17] to them looks at them as they're too

[1:01:19] skinny or they look like an addict or

[1:01:20] the opposite. They feel like they're too

[1:01:23] heavy and part of their body is leaning,

[1:01:25] you know, they're trying to keep their

[1:01:27] belly away from the other person's

[1:01:28] armrest or you know, it's part of the

[1:01:32] human condition.

[1:01:34] The shame that somebody knows that

[1:01:35] they're cheating on their spouse right

[1:01:37] now and they don't have the courage to

[1:01:38] share with them.

[1:01:42] It's everywhere.

[1:01:46] >> Yeah.

[1:01:48] >> And you have the opportunity right now

[1:01:50] and as part of your conditioning to make

[1:01:52] space for that.

[1:01:54] And here's the beauty. When you make

[1:01:56] space for your own humanity, including

[1:01:58] the parts of you that feel shame, that

[1:02:00] shame starts to dissipate.

[1:02:04] Yeah,

[1:02:08] it's quite beautiful.

[1:02:12] >> Yeah. Okay.

[1:02:14] [clears throat and snorts]

[1:02:15] >> So, do we know that Joe's going to spend

[1:02:17] the rest of her life by herself?

[1:02:20] >> No.

[1:02:22] >> Do we think there might be an even

[1:02:24] better chance now after this

[1:02:25] conversation that she's more likely to

[1:02:27] spend her life with somebody who can

[1:02:29] also love her to the degree that she

[1:02:31] loves herself?

[1:02:34] Yeah,

[1:02:36] >> I'd say that's a pretty good turnaround.

[1:02:42] >> Yeah, thanks.

[1:02:44] >> Thank you. You're a sweetheart.

[1:02:47] And again, nothing against your friends.

[1:02:48] I'm glad that they have their partners.

[1:02:50] But do we also know that just because

[1:02:51] they've got partners or even girls

[1:02:53] hitting on them that the rest of their

[1:02:55] life is just like [ __ ] hunky dory?

[1:02:59] >> No.

[1:03:00] >> No, we don't know that at all.

[1:03:02] They might be coming to you in 5 years.

[1:03:03] You're happily married. You're nursing

[1:03:05] with your beautiful second baby and

[1:03:08] they're going through divorce. They're

[1:03:09] devastated and they've become, you know,

[1:03:11] addicted to some sort of pain meds.

[1:03:16] You never know.

[1:03:20] So, I wouldn't use other people's lives

[1:03:22] as an excuse as to why they've got it

[1:03:24] all together and you haven't. That's

[1:03:25] just the way that the brain is using

[1:03:28] external examples to justify your own

[1:03:31] perspective.

[1:03:35] So my invitation to you is just as

[1:03:38] you're learning to allow all parts of

[1:03:39] you to be there, just allow life to be

[1:03:41] there. I don't know what I don't know

[1:03:42] what it means. I don't know where it's

[1:03:43] going to go, but I allow it to be.

[1:03:46] That's real peace.

[1:03:51] >> Sound good?

[1:03:53] >> Yeah, sounds good.

[1:03:56] Such a joy to be with you, Joe. I hope

[1:03:58] you get to find the same level of true

[1:04:01] pleasure it is to be with yourself as

[1:04:03] others feel when they're with you.

[1:04:08] >> Thank you. Yeah, you're going to be an

[1:04:10] extraordinary mom and you've been gifted

[1:04:11] the great conditioning to develop that

[1:04:13] level of love, compassion, acceptance of

[1:04:16] your own conditioning that will be the

[1:04:18] precursor to you being an extraordinary

[1:04:20] mother for somebody or somebody's.

[1:04:24] >> Thank you.

[1:04:26] >> It can all fit in that little beautiful

[1:04:27] cup on your wrist. Okay.

[1:04:29] >> Yeah.

[1:04:30] >> Make space for all of it.

[1:04:33] >> Thanks for your time. Appreciate it.

[1:04:36] >> Of course. It's really good to be with

[1:04:38] you.

Peter Crone
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The Mind Architect who helps individuals unlock their potential by addressing subconscious beliefs through innovative coaching, workshops, and transformative teaching.

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Rejection often triggers a deep childhood wound about not being seen, chosen, or valued. A single dismissal can confirm a story you've believed about yourself for years—that you are fundamentally unlovable. The intensity of the response is not about the person who rejected you; it's about what their rejection proves, in your mind, about who you are.
When you run from difficult feelings instead of making space for them, you're essentially rejecting yourself. People sense this internal rejection and mirror it back to you. More importantly, you send yourself a signal that parts of you are not welcome, which makes it nearly impossible to receive love or acceptance from others.
Making space for pain means acknowledging it without judgment or resistance—noticing the sensation in your body, accepting that it's there, and not trying to escape or fix it. Wallowing is being consumed by it, using it to confirm negative beliefs about yourself. One is presence; the other is identification.
Not really. If you're seeking love as proof of your worthiness, you'll unconsciously reject your partner's love or stay in unhealthy relationships out of fear of being alone. True partnership requires that you already know, at some level, that you are lovable—not because someone chose you, but because you've chosen yourself.
The fear loses power when you stop running from it. Instead of using distractions to escape the feeling, turn toward it with curiosity. Ask yourself: What am I afraid of? Where did this belief come from? Can I be with this fear without letting it run my life? Slowly, the fear becomes just a feeling, not a prophecy.
It means accepting that you are not only your best self—you are also sad, scared, angry, and sometimes feel unloved. Rather than trying to hide or deny these parts, you acknowledge them as part of being human. This acceptance is not resignation; it's the foundation for genuine self-love and authentic connection with others.

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