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[0:00] be Shanti
[0:03] Om Shanti Shanti Shanti
[0:09] Hari Om Tat Sat.
[0:12] >> [clears throat and cough]
[0:15] >> So, today I'm substituting
[0:19] one class of Katha Upanishad class.
[0:22] Our Swami Jnanasudhananda
[0:26] is for some other
[0:29] work. He's busy.
[0:31] So, Katha Upanishad is one of the as you
[0:34] know
[0:35] you all know Upanishad is the cream
[0:39] of the wisdom of
[0:41] spiritual life, ultimate reality, truth.
[0:45] You can
[0:47] you can just
[0:49] the Vedas has two segment.
[0:52] One is called the Karma Kanda, another
[0:54] is called Jnana Kanda.
[0:57] Karma Kanda, first of all
[0:59] people want to be wealthy,
[1:02] peaceful, joyful, enjoy the life.
[1:05] Not in a negative way,
[1:07] but in a positive way,
[1:09] honorable way.
[1:12] So, built on character and things. So,
[1:15] the scriptures have suggested Veda first
[1:18] division.
[1:19] Karma Kanda, you do Karma.
[1:27] If you do a Yagna
[1:29] offering your oblation for God,
[1:32] do anything, then that Karma leads you
[1:35] to freedom.
[1:37] Another Karma leads you to bondages.
[1:39] So, Vedic wisdom
[1:42] takes everyone to the experience of life
[1:45] from earthly
[1:47] good living from
[1:49] helpless life to a life of fulfillment,
[1:53] prosperity, wealth,
[1:55] dignity,
[1:57] and also after death
[1:59] go to heaven
[2:00] five star hotel
[2:02] better and I mean I mean it is better uh
[2:06] facilities and you can get youth you'll
[2:10] be youthful all the time, you'll be
[2:11] strong all the time, you don't be old
[2:13] any time, there'll be no disease any
[2:15] time. So this is a heaven you go, enjoy,
[2:18] but that is a also come back.
[2:22] After finishing some
[2:23] your good uh reward
[2:27] and your point gone
[2:29] then
[2:30] they will be driving you out from the
[2:32] hotel, well the five star hotel, but
[2:34] now you
[2:36] you extend your further money, otherwise
[2:39] get out. Yeah? But when you go they will
[2:42] invite you, come come sir, this sir,
[2:44] this is your room, this is key, this is
[2:46] that.
[2:47] But if the punnam the merit goes down
[2:51] and when it is zero, then hey
[2:54] where is money? And no money, so get
[2:56] out.
[3:01] goes to the heaven
[3:03] And and heaven is not a good experience.
[3:06] that experience because who knows
[3:10] every every time you earn good merit
[3:13] and I enjoy few days and then come back
[3:15] again. Again hell is world.
[3:18] Uh in your office you work hard
[3:21] and go to promotion and few uh in
[3:24] incentive you like
[3:26] giving you the free air ticket to Hawaii
[3:29] and all those hotel and every free
[3:32] enjoyment. But when it is finished you
[3:35] come back again, you join your job
[3:36] again. Oh my god, again hell is job. The
[3:39] hard harder work.
[3:40] >> More work.
[3:41] >> More work. So this is the way it goes on
[3:43] and people then get tired. Am I going to
[3:46] heaven? Why? Am I working so much? Why?
[3:49] Why I get a joy, joy, but the joy is
[3:52] limited As in the sense that world joy
[3:54] is limited. So in heaven also, it may be
[3:57] a little prolonged,
[3:59] but it is also it has an end. It brings
[4:02] back again into the cycle of suffering
[4:04] and pain again to go over. Is it a
[4:08] good way to go?
[4:10] Then they said, "No, no, no, it is not."
[4:12] Then
[4:13] then comes the path of they are called
[4:16] the
[4:17] be- vedango
[4:18] not not vedango uh karma kanda gyan
[4:21] kanda.
[4:22] The wisdom side and that is the called
[4:25] the Upanishad. But Katha Upanishad is a
[4:27] very sweet Upanishad. It's charming,
[4:30] very charming. It's a interesting
[4:34] because that starts with a beautiful
[4:36] story. So you know that story. I I if I
[4:38] go to the story we cannot go some
[4:41] to some I said today is a overall talk
[4:43] so I can do whatever I like.
[4:47] So
[4:49] this Upanishad starts with a very
[4:52] beautiful
[4:53] s-
[4:54] anecdote. It says that there was a great
[5:00] the
[5:01] giver of gift.
[5:04] And
[5:06] they they they did he performed a big
[5:08] ceremony.
[5:10] In Indian ceremonies wherever you go,
[5:12] food is the one thing important.
[5:15] >> [laughter]
[5:16] >> If there is no food, there is no
[5:17] ceremony.
[5:18] Uh see even our Durga Puja in the
[5:21] um
[5:22] say in our Santa Barbara
[5:25] Puja they come
[5:27] maybe late, that's okay. Puja they I
[5:29] offer flower, then that may be okay. If
[5:31] not, but prasad is first.
[5:34] Some people come and take the seats of
[5:36] the prasad tables, not even going to the
[5:39] temple.
[5:40] Because the ceremony means prasad.
[5:43] So [snorts] now a big ceremony means big
[5:46] feeding arrangement.
[5:48] So,
[5:49] Ushana Vajashravasa, that one
[5:53] Vajashrava, this name the old Sanskrit
[5:56] name Vajashrava.
[5:58] His son was Uddalaka.
[6:01] And he was performing a big
[6:04] um
[6:05] sacrificial fire
[6:07] by which he he wants to go to heaven
[6:10] by performing that rituals and sacrifice
[6:13] and fasting and all these
[6:15] um
[6:16] steps to follow. And at the end of them
[6:19] to give away gift.
[6:21] You have to give a gift. If you don't
[6:22] give gift and feed people, then your
[6:25] result will not come to you.
[6:29] But if you want God realization, you
[6:31] need not have to do anything. Love God,
[6:33] that's enough.
[6:34] But if you want to go to heaven,
[6:36] then you follow the protocol this there.
[6:38] Do this, do this, do this, do this, do
[6:40] this. And if you there is a fault,
[6:43] uh then you don't get the result.
[6:45] So, now
[6:47] the boy the father was distributing
[6:51] all the gifts to give to so many
[6:53] Brahmins.
[6:54] Holy people came.
[6:55] So,
[6:56] giving some gift to everyone.
[7:00] And this means a small boy, his name was
[7:02] Nachiketa.
[7:04] Uh
[7:05] Tatsaha Nachiketa nama putra
[7:10] Beautiful. He has a son whose name was
[7:12] Nachiketa.
[7:15] Now,
[7:16] >> [clears throat]
[7:17] >> he had the intelligent boy, not
[7:18] disrespectful for his
[7:21] Disrespectful and intelligence are
[7:23] different.
[7:24] He saw intelligently [clears throat] saw
[7:26] his father is giving away gift.
[7:30] Uh
[7:31] Some people give house clearing gift,
[7:33] no?
[7:35] That means
[7:36] you cannot use anymore, you have to
[7:38] throw away.
[7:39] Then you can make a big show that I am
[7:41] charity, I am giving away.
[7:44] But gift is not like that. Gift should
[7:45] be
[7:46] What is the best thing you have to give?
[7:48] Giving means you should give what is the
[7:50] best.
[7:52] And this is this is fake gift. When you
[7:56] give the worst thing and
[7:59] get the name, "Oh, I'm a big donor."
[8:04] So, this father was giving making a list
[8:07] of
[8:08] his
[8:09] things to be giving away to which
[8:11] Brahmin.
[8:13] Uh obstetrician station big station will
[8:16] get this smaller will be this like that.
[8:18] All list he was doing. And he noticed
[8:21] his son noticed Nachiketa that his
[8:23] father is giving away the gifts which
[8:26] are not gifts.
[8:28] What they're giving?
[8:38] Then seeing his father [clears throat]
[8:40] distributing the gifts
[8:44] in him
[8:46] faith and trust came.
[8:48] I belong to a noble family. My father
[8:51] belongs to a noble family and he has
[8:54] done the performing this rituals. He
[8:56] should give good gifts.
[8:58] Proper gifts. But he's not giving. What
[9:01] he's giving?
[9:10] He's in those days giving costly thing
[9:14] is the cows.
[9:16] Because cows get you can get the milk
[9:19] for for household life. Cows are India
[9:22] was full of That's why cow worship is so
[9:25] much. Like in this country horse
[9:26] worship.
[9:28] Uh we don't cut kill the horse
[9:31] and eat the meat here in this country.
[9:33] So, India that's why they came go mata
[9:36] because the cow gives so much everything
[9:40] of the cow is utilized for the human
[9:43] survival. The babies eat the milk and
[9:46] etc. etc. But
[9:49] his father was giving gift what? Pito
[9:52] Udaka, very beautiful.
[9:54] Pito money drunk
[9:56] Udaka means water.
[9:58] That means giving such cow
[10:01] who is so old, he cannot even drink
[10:04] little water.
[10:07] Pito Udaka.
[10:09] He's he becomes so weak.
[10:12] Jagdha Trina Trina means the grass.
[10:16] Jagdha means
[10:18] he's he's chewing
[10:20] the jaws not sufficient to chew the
[10:23] grass even. That means they're going to
[10:25] die soon.
[10:26] Main thing is that. But Upanishad
[10:28] presents it the this father is giving
[10:30] this gift of
[10:32] Pito Udaka, that type of
[10:35] cows which have drunk last time the
[10:39] drink drinking water. He cannot money he
[10:41] will die soon within few days.
[10:43] And Jagdha Trina, he may live little
[10:45] longer. Then he can chew little, but
[10:49] almost fading his eating
[10:51] ability. And Dugdha Doha.
[10:54] Next category is giving something which
[10:56] will not give any more milk.
[10:59] That time Nirindriya, they cannot stand.
[11:02] They are so weak, probably falling down.
[11:05] Such is the gift and he thought my
[11:08] father is giving away this gift.
[11:12] Then father will not go to the heaven.
[11:15] So
[11:16] let me go and ask
[11:18] whom you are giving me?
[11:21] To the father, the son is the best gift,
[11:24] is it not?
[11:25] A bright brilliant son.
[11:28] He said, you are giving your gift
[11:31] to whom you are giving me?
[11:33] The father got annoyed, no? Ananda namo
[11:36] te loka tan sagacchati tadadat if one
[11:40] gives such type of gifts
[11:43] so
[11:44] they will not go to heaven because the
[11:46] gift is improper gift.
[11:52] Therefore, with that faith and trust in
[11:55] him and faith and trust in father
[11:58] father's
[11:59] good well-wishing the father's
[12:02] the future goal
[12:04] say so who was a pitara
[12:07] um
[12:08] the Nachiketa, the boy, went to his
[12:10] father
[12:12] and he said tato kasmai mam dasyasi
[12:15] my father
[12:16] you are giving so many gifts. I'm also
[12:19] your gift. So, who you are giving me?
[12:22] And his intention is that
[12:26] if you give some bad gift, I am the best
[12:29] gift, so it will balance. Gift will be
[12:31] balanced.
[12:32] So, my father's intention about going
[12:34] heaven will be successful.
[12:37] So, he went there and father was
[12:40] annoyed. Hey, why are you disturbing?
[12:42] Go. Now, go and play.
[12:44] You're a young boy, you don't need not
[12:45] have to
[12:47] put your head here.
[12:48] Dutiyam, again the child came after five
[12:51] sometime guru and then came back. Dad,
[12:54] whom you are you giving me? To whom you
[12:57] are donate giving gift as
[12:59] my life as
[13:01] Dutiyam, Tritiyam, third time when he
[13:03] came and dad got little angry.
[13:06] And then he say
[13:09] mit dutiyam tritiyam mrit tvat dadamiti.
[13:12] I give you to death, mrityu.
[13:15] That means you go to the Yama's house.
[13:19] The house of the death dead house of the
[13:22] dead.
[13:23] That one is god of death.
[13:26] And Hindus have god of death also. God
[13:28] of life, god of death, god of eyes, god
[13:31] of hand, god of arm, god of leg, god of
[13:35] every every part
[13:37] every organ has a corresponding god
[13:40] controlled by that god. Anyhow, the
[13:42] death is we all know death. So, I will I
[13:45] give you to the death.
[13:47] And as soon as father says giving to the
[13:50] death
[13:51] his son
[13:55] See that I
[13:56] self-confidence.
[13:57] I am not a bad boy. I'm very
[14:00] intelligent, very talented.
[14:03] But I may not be the first grade among
[14:06] many.
[14:08] But I
[14:11] may be second grade
[14:13] to so many.
[14:14] But king
[14:16] I'm
[14:19] not a third grade boy. I'm not a
[14:21] callous. I'm not a fool. I'm not an
[14:23] idiot. So, why my father will give me
[14:26] away to the
[14:27] death? Death means done.
[14:31] Then he said
[14:33] Then he said, "No.
[14:35] My father is really loves me.
[14:37] So, he's sending me to the god of death.
[14:42] And I can ask to ask the god of death my
[14:46] spiritual question.
[14:48] I can unveil
[14:50] the spiritual insight.
[14:53] What life after death? Where do we go?
[14:56] That's a big question.
[14:58] My dad is making an opportunity for me
[15:02] to go to the lord god of the death.
[15:05] Who can
[15:07] teach me
[15:08] how to transcend life and live in
[15:11] eternity conquering death.
[15:13] That is the life's purpose, no?
[15:15] Conquering death. We are every moment
[15:17] frightened frightened frightened. Why?
[15:20] What will happen? What will happen? What
[15:21] will happen? I'll die.
[15:23] I will be sick. I will be I'll lose
[15:26] this.
[15:27] Nothing to lose. You can't get death.
[15:30] So, that is the thing. The boy
[15:33] thought so much
[15:34] with the small incident. His father only
[15:37] say I give it to to to the God of death.
[15:41] And he thought, my father is so
[15:43] considerate.
[15:45] He's sending me to the God of death
[15:49] to understand what is beyond death. Who
[15:51] can teach me except in the God of death?
[15:54] So, he took it in a positive sense.
[15:57] Had been in our life, I will curse our
[15:59] father. There is somebody say, my father
[16:01] is the I got it that my father is bad
[16:04] and he did this. That's why I am in so
[16:06] my disease is like that because my
[16:08] father gave it to me. I hate everything
[16:11] father's fault.
[16:14] But this [clears throat] boy
[16:16] same father, he looked at a different
[16:18] angle.
[16:19] That's when the the mind becomes pure,
[16:21] it gives you a right direction to
[16:23] understand truth.
[16:25] And that fundamental quality is
[16:26] shraddha.
[16:28] Swami Vivekananda's
[16:30] emphasis on shraddha is very remarkable.
[16:34] But if you have no you have faith and
[16:36] trust in
[16:38] 100,000 gods and goddesses and you have
[16:40] no faith in yourself and trust in
[16:42] yourself,
[16:43] then you are the atheist.
[16:46] Well, people used to think that it is
[16:48] who believe in God, huh?
[16:51] They are called theist, no?
[16:54] But those who believe in not himself, he
[16:56] is the
[16:57] atheist.
[17:00] So, that way
[17:01] then he
[17:03] then he went to his father and said,
[17:04] "Dad, now I'm going to the
[17:07] Jama's house, the death God of death."
[17:12] And he said,
[17:14] I understood the mind of the father. He
[17:16] is shocked now. And if I did I utter
[17:18] such word, my son is now going to the
[17:21] god of death. That means Jama dead.
[17:25] I'll not see him anymore. What will
[17:27] happen?
[17:28] And this son said, "Did I see my father?
[17:36] See, look back your forefathers.
[17:39] They stand on truth.
[17:41] And you
[17:43] should hold on to truth.
[17:46] I shall also follow the truth.
[17:48] Anupasya yatha purve, as is the
[17:51] tradition of the family, holding on to
[17:53] truth and values of life.
[17:56] Because you said go to Jama's death now,
[17:58] cannot change your words. No, no, sorry,
[18:01] sorry. I said something wrong.
[18:03] Out of anger I said don't take it
[18:04] seriously. No such thing. You said it is
[18:08] true and I'll follow that.
[18:10] So, you remember also your father. He's
[18:13] giving advice to his father. Small boy.
[18:15] You now understand that our
[18:18] our family tradition is so great. So,
[18:21] what has been given in the earlier time
[18:23] and we should follow that tradition.
[18:26] Otherwise, what is the life?
[18:32] This is beautiful statement of the our
[18:36] uh
[18:37] Kathopanishad. Shasyamiva martyo jayate
[18:40] punah pachyate punah. Life is what?
[18:43] What is shasya? Shasya means
[18:47] a grains. Rice, paddy, uh or what do you
[18:52] call?
[18:54] Job.
[18:55] Flower, no, no, key. Um
[18:59] What are what we grow? Rice uh parallel
[19:02] to rice, other other items.
[19:03] >> Wheat.
[19:04] >> Wheat
[19:06] and and what else?
[19:08] Barley, like that. So, it is like you
[19:11] plant
[19:13] a barley plant or a
[19:18] wheat
[19:20] and it grows.
[19:21] Seed comes to sapling, sapling grows and
[19:25] it for some day with water and struggle
[19:28] and then some grains grow there and then
[19:32] dries out and fall down.
[19:34] Our life is like that.
[19:40] Is
[19:42] our human life
[19:43] so meaningless that we are born
[19:46] like like the paddy, it grows in the
[19:49] field
[19:50] and grows grows grows grows and mature
[19:53] sometimes and after ripening they fall
[19:55] down and people cut and throw away. The
[19:57] life is like that. There is no meaning,
[19:59] there is no purpose. Why you are born,
[20:01] where shall I go? What is the goal of
[20:03] life? Why am I born here?
[20:06] So
[20:07] is this life like that? That is the
[20:09] question.
[20:10] He is talking to his father. Life is not
[20:13] like that.
[20:15] Therefore I am going.
[20:18] And the boy
[20:20] saluted dad and walked into the Jama's
[20:24] house.
[20:26] Yeah, Jama's house means see that I do
[20:28] not I do not heavenly path he went like
[20:30] that.
[20:31] But physically he went to a guru's
[20:33] house.
[20:36] Actually mitu mitu means death.
[20:40] Who knows the secret what is beyond
[20:42] death.
[20:43] So the Brahmins, they used to know. So
[20:46] the
[20:47] practically literally mean he left his
[20:49] home and went to his guru's house.
[20:54] And he's a very small boy.
[20:56] But determined.
[20:58] He went to his guru's house.
[21:01] It is not like that, hey guru, I come,
[21:03] give me something.
[21:05] Huh? That is a you have to wait.
[21:08] And it happened that guru
[21:11] went for
[21:12] some business.
[21:15] Meaning
[21:16] he went for maybe some other place and
[21:19] guru was not at the house.
[21:22] And he's a Brahmin boy has come.
[21:25] He's a
[21:27] a guest.
[21:28] In Indian system, guest is like God.
[21:32] Atithi devo bhava.
[21:35] Atithi, you treat your guest like God,
[21:39] no less than that.
[21:42] So, the household ladies who are in the
[21:44] home
[21:46] they said, "My child, you are what do
[21:48] you want?"
[21:49] No, I want to meet first Jamas, the God
[21:52] of death.
[21:54] He was oh, he he will come. Why not you
[21:57] are just come and have something to
[21:59] breakfast or lunch or something? No.
[22:03] My dad has sent me not for eating, not
[22:05] for not for breakfast or lunch.
[22:08] I I come to see him. So, I'll see him.
[22:12] And the boy was so determined that he
[22:15] didn't ate, drank a little drop of
[22:17] water.
[22:18] And
[22:19] fasting
[22:21] till the
[22:24] guru came, teacher came back.
[22:27] After 3 days
[22:29] guru came back.
[22:31] And they naturally the
[22:34] family members all told,
[22:37] "You, Jama,
[22:39] he's here in your house, a guest
[22:42] and a Brahmin guest,
[22:44] a very honorable guest,
[22:46] pure in character, is waiting at your
[22:48] door without without eating anything.
[22:51] You will
[22:52] incur big great sin.
[22:55] Just please him. Go and please him so
[22:57] that you give some boon so that this
[23:00] this impact will go away. We are
[23:02] householder, it will be cast upon our
[23:04] life then.
[23:05] >> It's interesting because his father was
[23:08] a king. Traditionally kings are
[23:10] Kshatriya family.
[23:12] So he should be a Kshatriya son, not the
[23:14] Brahmins son.
[23:15] >> I think
[23:16] >> I think his father was
[23:17] >> Maybe but sometimes he
[23:19] here sometimes it says Brahmin. Maybe
[23:21] matters little. This is story. Who knows
[23:23] what is happened.
[23:25] We We should not go to this detail but
[23:28] the more is this story, beautiful
[23:29] interesting story to understand one
[23:32] should be
[23:34] waiting for the truth.
[23:36] Uh how should not compromise with
[23:38] anything unless I see the
[23:40] I realize God, no? This is the
[23:42] interpretation here.
[23:45] And we'll find that how this boy is so
[23:47] intelligent to put the question,
[23:49] first question, second question, third
[23:52] question. That is very systematic way of
[23:56] asking the question and getting the
[23:58] reply from guru.
[24:00] Mhm. First of all,
[24:02] so he said
[24:05] Okay my boy, you are here in my house.
[24:08] You are guest for three nights and days
[24:10] and nights I hear.
[24:12] So please I am very
[24:14] really sorry I am late but you have not
[24:17] eaten anything. I said ask for three
[24:19] boons for three days.
[24:22] You You remain here fasted fasting for
[24:24] last three days and waiting for me to
[24:27] wait and I ask the questions. So first I
[24:30] give you three boons extra. Ask me what
[24:32] you want. Whatever you want I'll give
[24:34] you.
[24:35] What the boy wanted first?
[24:40] She said
[24:41] first she
[24:43] asked for the boon for his father.
[24:46] He said Shanto Sankalpa.
[24:49] I know I am is the most
[24:52] charming young son
[24:55] and I have come out of the house
[24:58] in guru's house.
[25:01] And my father will be very anxious, full
[25:03] of anxiety.
[25:05] Because of not
[25:07] losing me because of losing me.
[25:10] Therefore,
[25:11] let my father sleep well.
[25:15] And let my father
[25:17] in one boon, two two two two things he
[25:19] asked. Let my father
[25:22] be peacefully can sleep. And also when I
[25:26] go back,
[25:27] he recognizes me.
[25:30] Otherwise, you say the ghost has come,
[25:31] no?
[25:34] Therefore, in one boon,
[25:36] first is father's well-being. See, watch
[25:39] that. Who father has asked him to go to
[25:43] the house of the death.
[25:45] But son is first asking the welfare of
[25:48] the father. Let him sleep well, and let
[25:50] him recognize me when I go back.
[25:53] >> Is the third boon given in there also,
[25:55] right?
[25:55] >> Uh, let us see.
[25:57] >> He gets to go back and
[25:59] >> Prathama varam vrune. So,
[26:03] and then and guru says, "Okay."
[26:06] Mhm.
[26:07] Your father will be perfectly in peace
[26:10] and and when you go back, he will be
[26:13] able to
[26:14] recognize you.
[26:16] First part is done. Second part
[26:20] is that
[26:22] there is heaven.
[26:23] All the whole dualistic
[26:26] is talking of heaven.
[26:28] Angel
[26:30] and Hindu gods, goddesses, dancers, uh,
[26:35] singers, the musicians, different plane
[26:38] of world is there.
[26:40] So, there heavenly place, uh? That's why
[26:42] I say
[26:52] Uve titva asanaya pipase.
[26:59] >> I've heard that there is in the saga,
[27:02] there is a heaven.
[27:03] Not a heaven, there are heavens.
[27:06] And no no
[27:08] there is nothing to be frightened about.
[27:11] Because death has no control over that.
[27:14] Because they are done their
[27:17] And they can live longer.
[27:19] And also not
[27:22] You would be God of death does not rule
[27:24] there with a rod hand in hand and punish
[27:28] bad karma go to hell, good karma go to
[27:30] heaven. There there is no there there is
[27:32] no ruling over that.
[27:35] So there is heaven.
[27:37] And you don't control there.
[27:40] And not
[27:42] no one becomes frightened about old age.
[27:46] You do not know when you reach after 80
[27:48] then you understand what is old age.
[27:52] >> [laughter]
[27:53] >> So
[27:55] So he's saying that you are not there in
[27:57] in there is no jar jar means old age.
[28:02] And
[28:04] people have no hunger, no thirst.
[28:07] They they conquering all this they move
[28:11] the day saga look at they enjoy
[28:13] the heaven.
[28:16] Now is there any way
[28:19] one can go to that? See one step the
[28:21] world
[28:23] to be in peace.
[28:25] That peace is not permanent peace.
[28:27] Dissatisfied with that he's asking the
[28:29] second great question.
[28:31] After death where do you go?
[28:34] There I have heard there are heaven.
[28:37] And people go to heaven.
[28:39] Why they go to heaven?
[28:41] Because there is a place of freedom.
[28:43] No old age.
[28:45] No sickness.
[28:47] No thirst.
[28:49] No You remain
[28:51] perfectly satisfied there, joyful. So,
[28:55] I want to know how to go there.
[28:57] And then he said, "Okay.
[29:06] Then I know, please tell me how one can
[29:09] reach the heaven."
[29:12] How to arrange for the home of fire,
[29:16] how to organize the
[29:18] fire woods,
[29:20] what what triangle is to be done, what
[29:22] mantras are to be chanted. So, let me
[29:25] know all these things.
[29:32] I'm
[29:34] telling you now, Nachiketa, now you
[29:36] learn.
[29:38] This is the
[29:42] And that the Agni, the the fire,
[29:45] performing the fire sacrifice, you that
[29:48] which lead you to the heaven. I'm
[29:51] telling you that.
[29:53] So,
[29:54] you will learn that. And then the guru
[29:58] taught him how to lay the bricks, how to
[30:02] lay the organize the
[30:04] wood, as I said, with how to put the
[30:07] home of fire,
[30:08] put in the fire ghee, what mantra to
[30:11] chant, all these things, he said.
[30:13] And
[30:14] they have As soon as the teacher said
[30:17] that,
[30:18] the student is so bright, the boy
[30:20] Nachiketa, he immediately
[30:23] Listen, listen, listen. Sir, what did
[30:25] you say?
[30:26] Am I correct? And he memorized instantly
[30:29] all the same thing.
[30:31] How to organize everything, how to do
[30:34] the mantra, how to end it with
[30:36] prayer, etc., etc. As you do our
[30:39] As you do our home of fire. And the You
[30:41] have Most of you have perhaps seen our
[30:44] puja time. We at the end we do the whole
[30:46] fire.
[30:47] And there is more ritualistic, more
[30:49] elaborate things.
[30:51] And but he remembered everything.
[30:53] And he he he recapitulated everything.
[30:56] And the guru was very pleased.
[30:58] And hurry
[31:00] you are so bright boy that you remain
[31:02] remain remember immediately we and in
[31:04] without verbatim you remember. Okay, I
[31:06] give you extra boon.
[31:08] That's it.
[31:10] Eh?
[31:11] Because of his
[31:12] sincerity, because of his honesty and
[31:15] good learning mind.
[31:17] So guru gave him another boon.
[31:20] What is the boon?
[31:21] Well, now onward
[31:23] anyone wants to go to heaven will have
[31:26] to perform this
[31:27] sacrificial fire.
[31:29] And they will it will be named after
[31:31] you.
[31:33] It's name is Nachiketa Agni.
[31:36] The fire named Nachiketa. That means you
[31:39] will be immortal.
[31:41] Because people will remember you that I
[31:43] will have to perform Nachiketa Yagna.
[31:47] And after performing that only you will
[31:49] go to heaven.
[31:50] So that's the extra boon.
[31:53] But he was not much interested but it
[31:55] got okay.
[31:57] That's okay.
[31:58] It is the second boon.
[32:00] Third boon
[32:04] >> [clears throat]
[32:14] >> Now
[32:15] now the third boon is verse number 20.
[32:19] Chapter 1.
[32:21] He says "Ye yam prete vichikitsa
[32:23] manushye asti te ayam asti ticha eke
[32:29] etad vidyam anushishtas
[32:32] varanam eshu varas tritiyo. My third
[32:35] boon is like this.
[32:37] A young, pretty busy in this world.
[32:41] There is a question. There is a
[32:43] doubt.
[32:44] All the time people ask about that.
[32:47] Is there any life afterwards? Is there
[32:49] any place eternally after death?
[32:52] Is there anything like permanent?
[32:54] Or you after death you go to heaven and
[32:57] then vanish into zero.
[32:59] Some say there is an eternal reality.
[33:04] And some say there is nothing.
[33:07] So please you and the god of death.
[33:10] You please tell me.
[33:12] What is there?
[33:15] Anything eternal?
[33:17] Or all are mundane? All are changing?
[33:20] That was the third question.
[33:24] I will be learning from you this third
[33:27] boon.
[33:29] This is the greatest and highest
[33:32] expectation from you. So this is my
[33:34] third prayer.
[33:36] And then Nachiketa, this is the test.
[33:39] Everyone should have to go.
[33:42] You ask for money.
[33:45] You ask for name, fame.
[33:47] And God can give you quickly.
[33:50] But you say
[33:51] please reveal your divine nature.
[33:55] Or I want to be
[33:57] knowing who am I.
[34:00] Then your temptation will start coming.
[34:04] Temptations.
[34:06] So what does he
[34:08] say?
[34:09] He was so happy giving extra boon. Now
[34:12] he said, "Hey hey hey, what are you
[34:13] asking for?" They were erupted busy
[34:17] in the pura. In the olden time
[34:19] even the gods
[34:21] were puzzled about asking this question.
[34:24] Gods, goddesses, they are in the heaven.
[34:26] They enjoy everything. They are shaking
[34:29] to put any question about that eternal
[34:32] life, absolute blissfulness, and this
[34:35] mundane changing. You don't put that
[34:37] question. You're too small a boy.
[34:40] Now, he should be given a number of
[34:43] another boon, another another boon.
[34:46] Please, bring this to ask me whatever
[34:49] you like. Mama put it to don't ask this
[34:52] boon.
[34:54] I I can give you gold. I can give you
[34:56] jewelry. I can give you
[34:59] great territory of land.
[35:03] And you cannot imagine when gods cannot
[35:05] have those things. I can give you
[35:07] everything, but don't put this question
[35:09] that what is eternal life after death or
[35:12] is there any life or not.
[35:16] I will give you Satayu. So, you want to
[35:18] live? I will give 100 years
[35:20] lifetime.
[35:22] Or I I can give
[35:24] with you will live with your
[35:26] son, daughter, grandson, granddaughter,
[35:29] and all this wealth and prosperity.
[35:34] Many
[35:36] cows and horses and chariots and
[35:39] whatever you like I will give you. He
[35:41] hosti hiran nam ashwan. Hosti means
[35:45] elephant.
[35:46] Uh he hiran nam is gold.
[35:50] And land is a huge property and landed
[35:54] property. I can give you to all.
[35:57] And if you don't get satisfied, say
[35:59] whatever you want I will give you.
[36:02] And that was the temptation.
[36:09] Those things which cannot be
[36:11] available in the earthly plane.
[36:15] Sarvan kaman. I will I can sanction you
[36:18] free access to all these things what is
[36:21] there available in the mundane world.
[36:23] Imarama.
[36:25] These wonderful ladies, the Saratha with
[36:29] the chariot, with the with all these
[36:31] powerful drivers.
[36:34] In which is impossible to get
[36:36] I will give you as your service.
[36:38] Whatever you want, I'll give you. But
[36:40] mama
[36:42] mama
[36:44] uh
[36:45] What did he say? What
[36:47] did he say? Nachiketa maranam
[36:48] anupasyati. But don't ask me
[36:52] that what is eternal, what is beyond
[36:54] death, and is there any truth like that.
[36:58] And this student was very tough.
[37:02] He said, "Sobhavo martyasya. Sir
[37:08] you are giving me something which is
[37:10] sobhavo, only tomorrow.
[37:13] It has an end.
[37:15] 100 years lifespan, it will end in one
[37:18] day. You give 200 years life day, that
[37:21] will end one day.
[37:23] Sobhavo martah. In this material world,
[37:26] what you are talking about, these are
[37:27] all martah, subject to death. Martah.
[37:31] Sobhavo martyasya jarad anteka
[37:33] sarvendriyanam
[37:35] And you give me 100 year, 200 year, my
[37:37] eyesight will be
[37:39] light, will not look the same way as the
[37:42] youthful. All the sense organs will be
[37:45] jara, will will be uh
[37:47] dysfunctional. No?
[37:50] And api sarvam jivitama, if you say I
[37:53] enjoy the whole world
[37:56] that is alpam. That's nothing, it's
[37:58] alpam. This is limited. Because that is
[38:00] an end.
[38:02] So
[38:04] you don't please don't en- entice me
[38:07] with your singing and dancing and gold
[38:10] and all these things. Please don't tempt
[38:13] me with that. Tabo evaha tabo nistya.
[38:16] You please keep all those singing,
[38:18] dancing, gold uh with you. Please,
[38:20] please. I please give me what I am
[38:23] asking for. See the stubbornness of this
[38:25] student and the sincerity of the is not
[38:28] tempted. That's why the
[38:30] temptations come in spiritual life and
[38:33] very few people can struggle with that
[38:36] and get succumbed into it. And when God
[38:39] comes in the form and give you extra
[38:41] boon whatever you like, who is so
[38:44] powerful to withstand the temptations?
[38:47] That means such a beautiful character.
[38:50] Anyhow,
[38:52] then
[38:53] guru was very happy
[38:55] that
[38:56] uh the he was praising. I never find
[38:59] such a uh student like you, no? Uh they
[39:04] uh
[39:05] getting all these things, one can
[39:07] renounce all these thing and still ask
[39:09] for spiritual wealth and spiritual
[39:12] uh realization.
[39:15] And then then then starts the
[39:18] teaching of the Upanishad.
[39:20] Uh
[39:21] this is and these are the very beautiful
[39:23] verses this Katha Upanishad carries, no?
[39:28] It says that
[39:29] one or two I I can't read I cannot read
[39:32] in
[39:33] uh
[39:34] so in a short time. This is a
[39:37] it will take so long.
[39:39] But what he says,
[39:41] you know, in life bo- see guru teaches
[39:44] here.
[39:46] There are two things
[39:47] it appears in everyone's life.
[39:50] One is called shreya.
[39:52] One is called preya.
[39:54] Shreya means which is ultimate good.
[39:57] Preya means which is immediate good.
[40:00] Immediately a tongue will say good ice
[40:04] cream.
[40:05] Immediately something beautiful I will
[40:07] wow wow wow.
[40:10] Whatever immediately have brings
[40:13] happiness,
[40:15] but at the end it disappears.
[40:19] That is called the prey all.
[40:21] And sure is that what in the beginning
[40:24] it looks
[40:25] not so good.
[40:27] Beginning meditation,
[40:29] beginning getting up in the early
[40:30] morning when the eyes are drowsy.
[40:33] No, I will have to get up and take a
[40:35] shower. No, shower I will take little
[40:38] late after come. No, now.
[40:41] Huh? So, this is not very good.
[40:44] It is sure.
[40:46] Towards the beginning it appears little
[40:49] unpleasant. But putting on me at the
[40:52] end, which is brings absolute peaceful,
[40:56] joyful life. That is the sure. So, these
[41:00] two things come into the life of every
[41:02] human personality.
[41:05] And intelligent people are those who can
[41:09] give up the immediate pleasurable
[41:12] objects
[41:14] and accept that which is harder to reach
[41:17] at the beginning, but which will bring
[41:20] you absolute joy and absolute peace.
[41:23] So, that is the
[41:28] one verse.
[41:33] Avidya mantor vartamane
[41:38] swayam dhira panditam manna manna. The
[41:40] pandit, pandit means scholars. He's
[41:43] describing scholars. Spirituality is not
[41:46] scholarship, but it is
[41:49] those scholars
[41:51] in whose heart the ignorance is the
[41:53] fundamental thing, keeping ignorance in
[41:57] the mind and talking big spiritual
[41:59] talks. Huh?
[42:01] They are
[42:03] fools.
[42:05] And they
[42:08] go into the darkness and their followers
[42:11] they follow them. They also fall into
[42:13] the
[42:14] darkness.
[42:17] But this truth
[42:18] Shravanaya api bahubhi yo na labhyah, we
[42:22] hear this Upanishad how many times?
[42:24] He says you give money guru says
[42:27] you repeatedly hear about this truth
[42:30] that absolute truth, Satchidananda
[42:33] truth. All these are apparent. These are
[42:35] not eternal. It is all all name and form
[42:39] is limitation limitation limitation. 100
[42:43] times we hear Shravanaya api bahubhi.
[42:47] Again and again listening to this yo na
[42:49] labhyah, who cannot be achieved.
[42:51] Shrinvanto api, hearing that
[42:54] you cannot recognize and realize that.
[42:57] You need a ashcharyo vakta.
[43:01] It should come out from the mouth of a
[43:04] spiritual teacher who is unique.
[43:07] Unique means who has realized God, who
[43:09] himself has realization.
[43:11] And when it's given to the kushala
[43:14] anushishta ideal teacher may be there,
[43:16] student should be ideal.
[43:19] A PhD student teacher comes to a grade
[43:22] one child to teach what is called
[43:26] Einstein's theory of
[43:28] relativity.
[43:29] Huh? What will be the combination?
[43:33] Similarly they say no, ideal teacher
[43:36] ideal student will bring the best
[43:38] result. Ashcharyo gyata
[43:42] kushala anushishta. If it is given the
[43:44] right type of lesson
[43:46] and then the knower will know the truth.
[43:50] And Ramakrishna is
[43:52] best example. Ramakrishna and
[43:54] Vivekananda, teacher and student. They
[43:57] met together and clicked immediately.
[44:00] Boom in one second. They have the vision
[44:02] and realization.
[44:04] Ashcharyo vakta.
[44:06] And don't think that you have to study
[44:10] so many books. Ramakrishna said,
[44:13] uh God realization does not need and how
[44:15] many books you have read.
[44:17] But it is
[44:18] Reading is good,
[44:20] but more to be sadhana. So he says,
[44:22] "Naisha tarkena matir apaneya.
[44:27] You, Nachiketa,
[44:29] your buddhi
[44:31] is derived not out of logical conclusion
[44:37] or intellectual debating.
[44:40] Your brain is pure.
[44:45] That's why you are holding on to truth,
[44:48] rejecting all which are mundane.
[44:51] Our spiritual growth does not happen,
[44:53] why?
[44:54] Because our mind does not go to the
[44:56] truth.
[44:58] Mind is attracted to the world.
[45:01] And world is what? Not God to us.
[45:04] World is a point of attraction or
[45:06] rejection.
[45:09] I won't won't say world is all love, all
[45:11] joy,
[45:12] but there is bitterness is also there.
[45:14] Otherwise
[45:16] people will be only in the world.
[45:18] Because there's some bitterness, then
[45:20] they turn back and say, "Ooh, where is
[45:22] some sweetness?"
[45:24] So this is the turning point. So he
[45:27] says, "It But it cannot be achieved by
[45:30] only
[45:31] intellectual debating.
[45:33] But if logicians
[45:35] maybe good logicians, only logic will
[45:38] not give it. But it is only pure heart.
[45:41] So, Nachiketa, you are so great. You
[45:43] have given up everything, and you are
[45:45] asking for the highest truth.
[45:48] Uh
[45:49] But the truth is there in your heart.
[45:53] Tam durdarsham gudham anushtam
[45:56] anupravishtam
[45:58] guhahitam gavarishtam puranam adhyatma
[46:02] yogadhigamena devam matva
[46:10] >> One can conquer
[46:12] joy
[46:14] bereavement
[46:17] by identifying the truth which is within
[46:20] which is very difficult to see. The eyes
[46:22] cannot see. It's a fine mind, pure mind
[46:25] is necessary. Good home.
[46:27] It is embedded into that
[46:30] very depth of it and it is on a previous
[46:32] term.
[46:34] But to all horses duty.
[46:39] And
[46:40] I will suggest in one word. What is
[46:42] that?
[46:43] That all the Vedas which are mentioning
[46:46] the ultimate truth. What is the ultimate
[46:48] truth?
[46:49] Survey Vedas that
[46:52] all men
[46:53] and women
[46:55] that all the Vedas not the ultimate
[46:57] truth.
[46:58] Rigveda, Samaveda,
[47:00] Atharvaveda.
[47:03] Squeeze the Vedas. What is the
[47:04] essential?
[47:07] It is essential. It's called
[47:10] Om.
[47:11] Is the essential truth.
[47:15] People do austerities.
[47:17] People do
[47:19] celibacy practice of celibacy.
[47:23] For what purpose they all this done?
[47:26] Only to realize the truth which is
[47:28] called
[47:32] Superintendents in home.
[47:35] All this realization is home
[47:37] realization.
[47:40] That's the Upanishad deals only with the
[47:42] Om word. A U M and dot. That's all.
[47:47] And Mandukya Karika the commentary
[47:51] is one of the toughest
[47:53] non-dual
[47:56] philosophy.
[47:58] Only Om. Om all the time.
[48:00] Any mantras we start Om.
[48:03] But, Om is not so easy.
[48:05] Here, the guru says that Om is the
[48:08] ultimate truth, which is the all the
[48:11] Vedas, all the scriptures
[48:14] they
[48:15] target at that.
[48:16] All the spiritual seekers are leading a
[48:20] life of celibacy, purity. All the
[48:24] students are
[48:27] doing austerities, all types of that.
[48:30] They all need to reach this Om, truth of
[48:33] the Om.
[48:36] Like that, he says continued. Let me go
[48:39] to some other place.
[48:52] Angushta matro purusha madhya atmani.
[48:55] And that is beautiful. I I I I I I
[48:59] Next chapter when you go the guru is
[49:01] teaching him what is the atman, what is
[49:04] the Om actually, what is that reality.
[49:07] Uh so, he's saying that
[49:09] that this this is that reality.
[49:12] What is inside, what is outside.
[49:15] Jatas chodayati surya.
[49:18] From which the sun comes out.
[49:21] Astam jati yatra gachati. Where the sun
[49:24] sets into that consciousness.
[49:27] Tam deva that lifulgent reality
[49:30] is is pervaded everywhere and that is
[49:33] that.
[49:34] What is here, that is there.
[49:37] And
[49:39] we have to see everywhere the same
[49:41] reality.
[49:47] And see
[49:49] as we are reading in the Svetasvatara
[49:51] Upanishad, here also it says
[49:53] that
[49:54] Hamsa Suchishad this Atman is like a
[49:58] sun.
[49:59] It is going in this in this earth in the
[50:03] whole in the
[50:05] space
[50:06] in in the
[50:07] objects of the world in the earth
[50:10] and the grains and um in the in the
[50:14] rivers in the
[50:16] mountains everywhere that same reality.
[50:20] But
[50:21] hey,
[50:21] that is the question you are asking
[50:23] about Brahman.
[50:29] Mhm.
[50:30] Agnir yatha eka bhuvanam pravishya
[50:35] rupam rupam pratirupo babhuva ekas tatha
[50:38] sarva bhutantaratma
[50:40] rupam rupam pratirupo bahishcha he says
[50:44] as the one Agni the fire
[50:46] Agni being one
[50:48] bhuvanam pravishya entering into the
[50:50] world into the earth
[50:52] its color changes. Mhm, you put some oil
[50:56] in the fire
[50:57] its color is one.
[50:59] You put some
[51:01] food grain, it will be one color. You
[51:03] put some salt in the fire, it will be
[51:06] one color. So
[51:08] that as the color becomes different with
[51:10] fire remaining the same
[51:12] then that's why the rupa or the form you
[51:14] see, these are forms are different but
[51:17] the content is the same.
[51:19] And then the that is the
[51:22] as you say
[51:24] the
[51:25] animal cookies, no?
[51:28] We are all animal cookies.
[51:31] We look different one with the other.
[51:34] But the dough is the same dough.
[51:36] Satchidananda that is made of
[51:38] Satchidananda.
[51:39] That is the Agnir yatha eka ekas tatha
[51:43] that one reality the the truth O
[51:46] Nachiketa you asked me that what is the
[51:48] ultimate truth? Eka ha that is only one.
[51:51] Sarvabhutantaratma,
[51:53] it is in everyone's heart.
[51:55] That's why I said
[51:57] Swami Vivekananda said, "Each soul is
[51:59] potentially divine."
[52:01] Not less, not more. Behind this
[52:04] chandelier,
[52:05] there's same electricity. Behind this,
[52:08] the same electricity. Behind them,
[52:13] air conditioning, the same electricity.
[52:16] Manifestation is different.
[52:18] But inside is the same consciousness.
[52:21] So, that is the
[52:23] theme of the
[52:25] Upanishad. So, Katha Upanishad says that
[52:30] talks and same man as the as the air
[52:33] entering into different space,
[52:36] eh,
[52:36] takes different form.
[52:38] The same Atman
[52:40] taking in different bodies appears
[52:42] different. Nityo nityanam
[52:46] He's the eternal
[52:48] among the non-eternal. This is
[52:50] non-eternal.
[52:52] But there is the eternal behind.
[52:55] Nityo nityanam, chetana
[52:58] eh, chetananam
[53:00] He's the conscious entity behind all
[53:03] consciousness, all our awareness. I am
[53:06] seeing you aware. I am hearing. I am
[53:09] moving. I am touching. I am tasting. But
[53:12] all these sense experiences are
[53:13] happening.
[53:15] But it is behind the consciousness that
[53:17] is the one consciousness.
[53:19] Tam Atmastham, if you can in your real
[53:22] realization, you can think that that
[53:24] that consciousness is in you. Atmastham
[53:28] yonupashyanti, you are an intelligent
[53:30] person. You are dhiraha.
[53:33] And your peace, tesham shanti shashvati,
[53:37] you will get an eternal peace, absolute
[53:40] joy. That is the Atman,
[53:42] that consciousness behind all awareness,
[53:45] that light behind all light, that
[53:48] form behind the
[53:50] behind that one formless whatever the
[53:53] form
[53:54] of name and form that is the one
[53:57] reality. So, that oneness is the
[53:59] teaching of Vedanta what you are asking
[54:03] and knowing that one will conquer death.
[54:09] Any very roughly we have
[54:11] run over the
[54:13] Upanishads main theme. So, you got the
[54:15] three points. First of all, a person
[54:18] should be spirituality is for stable
[54:21] people,
[54:22] not unstable people.
[54:25] He should be well established in life,
[54:27] enjoy the life, understand its futility.
[54:31] Then question will come, "Okay, I'm done
[54:33] with this world, what do I enjoy it can
[54:35] give? Money, wealth, prosperity, food,
[54:38] and dress,
[54:40] house, car. I've
[54:43] I've tried.
[54:45] And now I'm not I'm not satisfied. Then
[54:47] after death, what? The heaven?
[54:50] Yes, you go, do meritorious work, enjoy
[54:53] heaven. And then your mind will be
[54:55] matured there. I have done so many times
[54:58] going back and forth. That does not give
[55:00] me joy. Where? Where? Where? Then you go
[55:02] to your guru. And then guru gives the
[55:04] direction of looking inside and then he
[55:07] says, "Here,
[55:08] my good guru know. Where are you
[55:11] searching me, my dear child? I'm here
[55:13] inside inside and outside. I'm in the
[55:15] earth, I'm in the
[55:16] space, I'm in the water, I'm in the
[55:18] mountain, I'm in the birds, I'm in the
[55:21] animals. I am everywhere, I permeate
[55:23] everywhere. And in you and in outside."
[55:26] That's the last stage. So,
[55:29] nothing
[55:30] we should not criticize anyone because
[55:32] everyone is going to the ultimate goal
[55:34] is that. But But needs the experience of
[55:37] life to go. Uh so no one should look
[55:40] upon others
[55:41] uh
[55:42] lower high but to see that we are all
[55:45] making a
[55:46] common journey to the infinity. Everyone
[55:48] wants joy.
[55:50] Everyone, a thief, a murderer,
[55:53] a serial killer, a lover, a hater,
[55:58] whatever, who is who is trying to make
[56:01] the others life uh
[56:03] many
[56:05] a
[56:07] others life
[56:09] uh
[56:10] totally
[56:12] uh destructive life, no?
[56:15] Or a
[56:16] villain
[56:17] or a killer,
[56:19] same, they're all searching for joy,
[56:21] joy, joy, joy. I'll be happy. I'll be
[56:23] happy. My joy will be better. And this
[56:25] is the obstacle, kill him or destroy
[56:27] him, then I'll be happy.
[56:29] That is such search for happiness,
[56:32] eternal happiness, unchanging happiness.
[56:35] Everyone is searching for that.
[56:37] It should be here or in heaven,
[56:40] but nowhere. Then go back. Beyond Beyond
[56:43] means come back in your heart.
[56:45] And when you go into their heart, then
[56:47] comes out everywhere.
[56:49] One question, temptations arise when one
[56:52] seeks
[56:53] the self. Is this some test of God or
[56:56] blessing?
[56:57] Yes, if the temptation for God comes
[57:00] naturally, it is a blessing.
[57:02] But temptation from the world comes,
[57:04] then we'll have to wait.
[57:06] Temptation of world is also God.
[57:10] But then I do not know who might love in
[57:12] the beautiful blossom flower.
[57:15] I love the flower.
[57:17] Then the flower why not love the flower
[57:18] after 10 days?
[57:21] Someone is hiding behind the beautiful
[57:23] flower.
[57:25] I don't see him. I saw the only name and
[57:28] form.
[57:29] The flower is color and its fragrance or
[57:32] its
[57:33] uh texture. that attracted me.
[57:37] But who is
[57:39] bringing out that beauty, that love,
[57:41] that attraction?
[57:43] Wherever it is, Swami ji said
[57:45] that whenever a friend shaking hand with
[57:49] I see the Lord standing there. A mother
[57:51] kissing the baby
[57:53] with love, there stands God standing
[57:56] there. So, God stands everywhere.
[58:00] >> I have a question. Why do you
[58:02] >> Yes.
[58:02] >> Why do you say each soul is potentially
[58:05] divine instead of
[58:07] inherently divine?
[58:09] >> Well, inherently, potentially means it
[58:11] is there, but it is manifestation.
[58:15] Only we are not manifesting, that's why
[58:17] we are feeling this
[58:19] sadness,
[58:20] incompleteness,
[58:22] imperfection. But who does that we call
[58:25] saint?
[58:26] They are saintly people. They have
[58:28] manifested that divinity, divine
[58:30] qualities are manifested in their
[58:32] action, in their thought, in their
[58:34] movement, in their all
[58:37] all types of
[58:38] gesture and posture even.
[58:42] It is potential because it is covered by
[58:44] my mind.
[58:46] This truth is all the time here, but it
[58:49] is covered by my
[58:50] dark mind,
[58:52] dark misunderstandings,
[58:54] intellect,
[58:56] I, [snorts] ego.
[58:58] So, these are the coverings. If it is
[58:59] not unfolded,
[59:01] that's why
[59:03] Vedanta talks about pancha kosha of five
[59:06] koshas. Anna, the body,
[59:08] prana, the energy body,
[59:10] mano, the mind, intellect,
[59:13] buddhi, and ego.
[59:16] These are the five five layers. The
[59:18] inner truth is covered with the five
[59:20] layers.
[59:21] Peel off, peel off, peel off.
[59:23] That is unfoldment, unfoldment. By how?
[59:27] By meditation, by prayer, by what we are
[59:29] doing, we are trying to
[59:32] think about this again and again.
[59:34] Reading the Upanishad. Or whatever
[59:36] practice makes our mind
[59:38] purer.
[59:42] Om Shanti Shanti Shantihi Harihi Om Tat
[59:47] Sat Sri Ramakrishna
[59:50] Arpanamastu.
[59:52] >> And so tomorrow's class is cancelled.
[59:55] >> Tomorrow is what?
[59:56] >> Um after we done on this class
[59:58] >> After what?
[59:59] >> go there and so we cancelled the class.
[1:00:02] >> Oh, tomorrow class is cancelled. Okay.
[1:00:04] So tomorrow class is cancelled.
[1:00:07] Saturday. Thank you.
[1:00:12] Some question is coming.