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[0:00] Oh,
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[0:25] that's the detail.
[0:28] Amazing.
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[1:18] heat. Hey.
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[2:26] heat, heat.
[2:44] You don't have to
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[4:22] >> You can sing God
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[5:29] Oh part
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[5:57] Super
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[7:25] Yes, I
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[7:56] Namaskar
[7:58] esteemed dignitaries, pilgrims, speakers
[8:02] and friends. I stand before you today
[8:06] with a heart that like so many of yours
[8:09] is heavy with grief and questions. Some
[8:13] really difficult questions. Words seem
[8:16] too inadequate for the grief that we
[8:18] carry today.
[8:20] You know, when a tragedy strikes, it
[8:23] does not leave behind statistics or
[8:26] headlines. It leaves families and
[8:30] wounds, hearts with unbearable questions
[8:33] and communities struggling to find the
[8:36] strength to face another monsoon.
[8:40] As you know, a devastating flash flood
[8:43] struck the Nepal Tibet border on 26th
[8:47] August, causing extensive damage and
[8:50] loss of lives. We share the pain and
[8:54] anguish of everyone everyone affected by
[8:58] this tragedy and of the families
[9:01] awaiting news of their loved ones.
[9:05] Sadguru has been in the region these
[9:08] past few days and the volunteers
[9:12] continue to give themselves fully to
[9:15] support the situation. Sadguru is here
[9:17] with us today to stand with Nepal during
[9:20] this tragic time and express his
[9:23] solidarity with the people of Nepal who
[9:26] are grappling with one of the most
[9:29] difficult challenges I say of our
[9:31] nation, our communities, our lives.
[9:36] We may come from different cases. We may
[9:39] speak different languages. We may belong
[9:43] to different faiths to different
[9:45] communities. to different walks of life.
[9:48] But greed does not recognize a border.
[9:52] Pain does not ask the color of our skin.
[9:57] In these challenging moments, we are
[9:59] reminded of the extraordinary resilience
[10:02] and unwavering strength of the people of
[10:04] our country.
[10:06] Time and again, as we know, we have
[10:08] naviged adversity with grace together.
[10:12] We have offered support to one another
[10:14] and extended a helping hand to all in
[10:17] need regardless of nationality, race,
[10:21] religion, and the other identities. To
[10:24] recognize and honor this resilience of
[10:26] the people of Nepal, I'd like to address
[10:28] and recognize our dignitaries and thank
[10:31] them for being here with us today. uh
[10:34] many of our honorables and dignitaries
[10:36] have not yet joined us
[10:40] but I would like to
[10:42] acknowledge our members of parliament
[10:45] our acting mayor of Kathmandu
[10:48] metropolitan city Miss Suna Dangol has
[10:50] also just joined us our former ministers
[10:54] senior former public officials other
[10:57] distinguished dignitaries uh government
[10:59] officials the representative of
[11:01] diplomatic missions international
[11:03] organizations ations, media, community
[11:06] leaders and our invited guests.
[11:10] Sguru, at a time when so many hearts are
[11:13] heavy,
[11:15] we come together in solidarity and
[11:17] prayer. We know that these are difficult
[11:20] moments and we are extremely grateful to
[11:23] have you join us as we hold space for
[11:26] everyone affected. Ladies and gentlemen,
[11:30] today we are in the presence of Sadguru
[11:32] and he will be addressing us shortly.
[11:35] But before we begin with our formal
[11:37] proceedings, I request every one of us
[11:40] to raise for a m for two minutes moment
[11:43] of silence to remember those who have
[11:45] left us and to stand in solidarity with
[11:48] all those who carry this loss in their
[11:50] hearts. Many and may those who have
[11:54] departed, they're remembered. they're
[11:57] remembered with love. May these who
[11:59] mourn find strength and support and may
[12:03] the people of our country, our Nepal
[12:06] know that we are in this together. We
[12:09] are in this together. I request everyone
[12:11] to please close your eyes, raise and
[12:15] observe silence for two minutes.
[14:25] Thank you. Please take your seats as we
[14:29] hold the people of Nepal and all those
[14:31] affected in our hearts.
[14:34] As we begin today's uh gathering, we
[14:36] come together with a shared sense of
[14:38] solidarity and compassion. To open the
[14:41] proceedings, it's my pleasure to invite
[14:43] our esteemed guest, Miss Manisha Kurala,
[14:46] a proud voice of Nepal who's inspired
[14:49] many through her work in resilience to
[14:52] be on the stage with us.
[15:27] Thank you for joining us. It's Manish
[15:29] Shakurala. In these difficult times, as
[15:32] we come together in solidarity and
[15:33] prayer, there are many emotions that are
[15:37] difficult to put into words. Like I also
[15:39] mentioned earlier, today we come
[15:41] together with heavy hearts to remember
[15:44] all those affected to stand besides
[15:47] those who are suffering and to hold
[15:49] close in our thoughts and prayers. Those
[15:52] who continue to await news of their
[15:55] loved ones. Today we're fortunate to be
[15:57] in Sguru's presence and to have this
[16:01] moment to pause, reflect and come
[16:03] together as one. Sguru, may we please
[16:06] invite you to be on stage with us.
[16:42] Thank you very much. Now um it would be
[16:46] great to hear a few words from Miss
[16:48] Manisha Kurala if you could share a few
[16:50] words with us. Thank you very much.
[16:59] Namaskarum.
[17:04] Today
[17:06] when Guruji called me
[17:10] without thinking
[17:12] I just came.
[17:18] It is
[17:20] a humongously
[17:23] unexplainably
[17:25] kind of pain
[17:27] that we
[17:29] are feeling.
[17:32] I'm as
[17:35] nishabini
[17:37] speechless
[17:40] as I ever could be.
[17:43] I'm as confused
[17:46] as ever.
[17:50] So when I met Guru G for the right now,
[17:53] I said Guru G
[18:04] Sing
[18:15] also
[18:21] body.
[18:57] Majan soup. Henchpali
[19:28] resol. brilliant people.
[19:30] Yes, we are.
[19:34] But can can the pain be lessened?
[19:38] Can we not? Please Lord, please God,
[19:44] can we have lesser pain?
[19:55] I'm honestly
[19:57] last year
[20:07] I don't know how to comprehend my
[20:09] feelings, what to say to you, how to be,
[20:13] what to do. How many more pain
[20:17] will this life show?
[20:24] All I know is when we face with a
[20:28] problem,
[20:30] we have nothing else to do but to
[20:33] overcome it. We have nothing else but to
[20:36] really
[20:38] collect all all our strength
[20:43] and take baby steps forward.
[20:46] And that's what our nation will do, our
[20:51] people will do.
[20:54] Not knowing what's the solution,
[20:57] not having all the answers,
[21:01] but hoping things will become better.
[21:05] And that hoping
[21:08] that if anything like this happens
[21:10] again, we'll be better prepared.
[21:14] Will we be
[21:16] better prepared?
[21:23] It's a hope.
[21:31] Human mind is um
[21:36] we we as human being are very
[21:40] creative,
[21:42] resilient.
[21:43] There was someone
[22:24] global warming.
[22:28] This is not some
[22:30] anything
[22:32] distant.
[22:34] We are facing the brunt of the global
[22:36] warming.
[22:42] What should be our
[22:46] step forward?
[23:06] I request
[23:10] we as human beings
[23:14] our great neighbors China, India, Nepal
[23:22] somehow join hands in this
[23:25] and do something collectively
[23:29] we are so
[23:32] linked with each other
[23:36] and to try and avoid something or the
[23:39] something like this
[23:43] I hope and pray
[23:46] without
[23:49] making sense of this disastrous moment
[23:53] that we become better people
[24:02] that we help others just like we'll help
[24:07] our own.
[24:12] Other than this,
[24:18] I want to request all the international
[24:21] communities.
[24:24] You guys have been so kind and loving
[24:28] towards Nepal
[24:31] time and time and time again.
[24:36] I pray that your love and support
[24:40] continues.
[24:43] We as a nation
[24:47] need
[24:50] people to come to our country.
[24:53] We don't want to be known as oh shun
[24:56] this country it's full of disaster or
[24:58] it's always we need you all to travel
[25:04] rest of the nation.
[25:06] Yes, there's a calamity in Tibet
[25:11] and Nepal border
[25:16] but the tourism
[25:19] is a breath.
[25:23] Let's keep that in mind. Rest of the
[25:26] nation
[25:29] do need tourism.
[25:34] We don't want to be known as a country
[25:36] which is constantly having trouble.
[25:40] We want to be known for what we were
[25:43] meant to be known.
[25:46] Beautiful weather, strong Himalayas,
[25:49] great nature,
[25:52] great people,
[25:54] great culture, tradition.
[25:58] [sighs]
[26:01] I would rate the Nepali people as number
[26:04] one.
[26:09] I hope and encourage the international
[26:13] community
[26:14] to travel to Nepal again.
[26:20] And Guru G, thank you so much
[26:23] for your blessing to Nepal, for your
[26:26] blessing to us in these trying times.
[26:32] Thank you, Kuri.
[26:36] >> Thank you.
[26:44] >> Thank you so much. It's Manisha Kurala.
[26:47] I think at a time when so many of us are
[26:50] struggling to find the right words to
[26:52] express what we feel right now, your
[26:54] words
[26:56] um touched us.
[26:58] It was very brave.
[27:00] I think what has happened in the flash
[27:03] floods has left our nation with immense
[27:06] grief. And today we come together not
[27:10] only to mourn these
[27:12] the lives that we've lost, but also to
[27:14] stand in solidarity with the families
[27:17] and communities affected. I'd like to
[27:20] address the audience. We can feel the
[27:23] emotion in the room right now. There
[27:25] tears in the audience.
[27:28] Because what our country has witnessed
[27:30] is not just a tragedy. We've heard about
[27:33] it. It's a pain that so many families
[27:36] are living through right now.
[27:40] Today we're in the presence of Sudguru
[27:44] and it's my honor as I request Sudguru
[27:47] to address us.
[27:58] >> [clears throat]
[28:10] >> Coloni
[28:19] Follow
[28:29] may
[28:36] you
[28:39] call
[28:43] your
[28:59] Namaskarum to
[29:03] the brave, beautiful and beloved people
[29:07] of Nepal.
[29:10] In the last 20 years, Nepal has become
[29:13] and has taken a significant
[29:18] geography of my heart.
[29:22] Every year I have been here, year after
[29:24] year.
[29:26] Well, at a moment like this,
[29:32] we try to find reasons.
[29:35] We try to weave philosophies.
[29:38] We try to find some mystical
[29:40] possibilities as to why this happened.
[29:45] Well, we must understand this
[29:48] that for all these things that happen in
[29:51] physical nature, the physical phenomena
[29:55] is ruled by physical laws. It's brutal
[29:58] to say this because everybody would like
[30:00] to find a divine reason for this.
[30:04] No, we should not waste our time on such
[30:06] things. Divinity is another aspect.
[30:10] Physical phenomena is physical phenomena
[30:13] ruled by physical laws.
[30:16] So what happened in this few days
[30:20] as Nanisha was saying unfortunately in
[30:24] the last 10 years there have been series
[30:28] of hits blows to people of Nepal.
[30:33] They have endured it. They have bounced
[30:36] back in many ways, but
[30:41] people who really suffered maybe off the
[30:43] news channels, but their suffering is
[30:46] not gone. Homes destroyed,
[30:50] people who are dear to you or lost.
[30:52] Maybe they are off the newspapers,
[30:55] but they are not of people's hearts who
[30:58] love them. That pain is not gone.
[31:02] So let's not belittle
[31:04] human suffering by giving philosophies
[31:07] or ideologies or mystical explanations.
[31:11] Maybe this is all God's will. No, this
[31:14] is a physical phenomena.
[31:17] Well, if you think it's appropriate, I
[31:19] would try to dwell upon it. Maybe most
[31:22] of you have already already know this.
[31:26] According to Indian Space Research
[31:28] Organization, what they noticed was due
[31:31] to melting of the ash,
[31:35] uh, a glacia about 2,000 ft in width
[31:40] dislodged itself from the peak of the
[31:42] mountain along with a large part of the
[31:45] mountain peak. It came down 4,000 ft of
[31:49] freef fall and then crashed,
[31:52] creating an impact which measured about
[31:55] 5.2 2 on the RTOR scale it's like an
[31:57] earthquake that is the kind of impact it
[32:00] created. So it's a kind of disaster that
[32:05] I don't think in any part of the world
[32:06] we have seen that that the way it
[32:10] happened.
[32:13] So why this happening? Well, there are
[32:16] causes
[32:19] causes maybe beyond our present control
[32:22] which is true.
[32:24] Wow. You and me sitting here may have
[32:27] nothing to do. Our environmentalists and
[32:30] activists may be calculating what is the
[32:32] impact of you using your car
[32:36] on the global warming and telling you
[32:38] not to use your car or go electric. Your
[32:42] diesel or petrol car is a problem.
[32:45] I'm also thinking every time I start the
[32:49] motorcycle, I'm thinking at least never
[32:52] keep the engine on one minute more than
[32:54] it is necessary. Thinking we are
[32:56] contributing in tiny little drops. We
[32:59] are. I'm not saying no. But
[33:03] there are missiles being fired in the
[33:05] world.
[33:06] One missile may be equal to a million
[33:08] motorcycles or cars. Wars are being
[33:11] fought by major nations.
[33:14] Well, you cannot calculate the impact of
[33:16] those things. The amount of heat, the
[33:19] amount of temperature rise. As you know,
[33:22] everywhere it is being said that this
[33:25] has been among the warmest years ever.
[33:29] In Europe, the temperatures have been
[33:31] 42° centigrade.
[33:34] And now they're predicting 2027 will be
[33:37] the warmest year in the last 100 years.
[33:41] So
[33:43] icemelting in these conditions is a
[33:45] natural phenomena.
[33:47] It's just that it's coming our way. That
[33:50] is a disaster for us.
[33:53] But the real disaster is we are living
[33:56] so unconsciously on this planet. Well,
[34:00] we are not going to talk about
[34:02] environment
[34:04] and our consciousness, how to fix it
[34:07] because at a time like this, I must tell
[34:09] you
[34:12] uh because our groups which go to Kalash
[34:15] [snorts]
[34:16] when I came here the first time in 2006,
[34:21] I came here with 168 people
[34:25] from many nations.
[34:28] So here the local Sherpa group which was
[34:32] uh conducting our uh you know affairs in
[34:36] Tibet for us
[34:38] [clears throat] where the conditions
[34:39] were very harsh at that time. We were
[34:42] living in small tents all along the way.
[34:44] There was not a single bathroom
[34:45] anywhere. Uh there were no roads. We
[34:49] were driving finding our way through the
[34:51] desert. Harsh conditions.
[34:55] So it was a big joke among them that
[34:59] normally groups are never more than 40
[35:02] 45 people. Even for such groups a
[35:05] minimum of one to two body bags would
[35:08] come back. They were all joking among
[35:10] themselves and body bag body bag. They
[35:13] were talking how many body bags will
[35:15] this group come back with?
[35:18] So I took a w matter what we are not
[35:21] going to bring back anybody in a bag.
[35:25] And we brought in a a very extraordinary
[35:30] sense of discipline into our teams and
[35:32] focus and training so that our medical
[35:35] teams, our cooking teams, our volunteers
[35:38] teams functioned with military
[35:40] precision.
[35:41] And in these many years, we were proud
[35:45] that we have never left even one person
[35:47] back there and come. But now I have to
[35:51] say we left 80 people and came back
[35:54] here.
[36:05] [snorts]
[36:13] when we got the message or phone call
[36:17] from our leader of the group Pravin
[36:20] who's been with us for more than two
[36:22] decades
[36:23] that everybody has reported at uh the
[36:27] immigration center
[36:30] at 9:05.
[36:34] is our silly discipline
[36:37] that we have to be the first group
[36:39] because at the immigration center
[36:42] between Tibet and Nepal border there is
[36:44] such chaos and confusion if you come
[36:46] little later it'll take hours to pass
[36:49] through. So we want to be the first
[36:51] group. So when he reported 9:05 I said
[36:56] good.
[36:58] I only wish we didn't have so much
[37:00] discipline.
[37:01] I wish we had gone there half an hour
[37:03] later, but we went there on time and
[37:08] 9:14 they struck. The first images that
[37:11] came,
[37:13] I looked at the flood
[37:16] and it was about 354 ft in height.
[37:20] I said, "This is okay. Our people are
[37:24] all in the immigration center,
[37:26] so
[37:28] maybe it'll flood the center. Maybe
[37:30] they'll do lose their baggage. Maybe
[37:33] they'll lose their passports. Maybe
[37:35] they'll lose their clothes. I don't
[37:36] care. But they will stay alive.
[37:40] The next image that came showed it was
[37:44] 165 ft tall.
[37:46] Then I knew this is not something to
[37:49] survive.
[37:51] On the Nepal side there are
[37:54] possibilities of survival because it was
[37:57] water. On the Tibet side, it was debris,
[38:01] millions of tons of debris which came
[38:04] and landed where a well constructed
[38:07] concrete building just vanished.
[38:11] Obviously the Chinese government and the
[38:14] Chinese army and their engineers could
[38:16] not foresee this because this is a newly
[38:19] constructed building after last year's
[38:22] flood which washed away the uh bridge.
[38:26] When army engineers construct something
[38:29] they think strategically they look at
[38:32] all the possibilities and put it. So all
[38:34] those things were looked at. So what
[38:37] happened now is beyond all those
[38:38] strategies.
[38:40] Nobody expected something like this will
[38:42] happen. That 3/4s of a glacial ice cube
[38:47] will just fall down 4,000 ft down the
[38:50] peak. Not something that anybody
[38:53] calculated for. But now that it's
[38:56] happened, we must look at this
[39:00] because this is not something a small
[39:03] nation like Nepal can solve by
[39:05] themselves.
[39:06] they will get the beating. But the
[39:09] problem and the cause for this is
[39:10] elsewhere and all over the world.
[39:13] Since the industrial period happened,
[39:16] the level of warming that's happening.
[39:19] What this means? Let me put this into
[39:21] simple equation.
[39:23] See, water is stored in three different
[39:26] places on the planet. One is the ocean,
[39:30] which is a large water body that
[39:32] everybody can see. Another very large
[39:34] storage of water is in the soil.
[39:38] Across the world, soil holds at least
[39:42] 800 times more water than all the rivers
[39:44] in the planet put together. The next
[39:47] thing is the ice in the mountains or the
[39:49] snow.
[39:51] Now, as it warms, as the planet warms up
[39:55] day by day or year on year by year, what
[39:59] is in the mountain is trying to get to
[40:01] the ocean. One thing is on the way
[40:04] whoever is there it hits them which is
[40:07] Nepal
[40:08] and another thing is the oceans will
[40:10] rise and island nations will sink
[40:14] coastal regions will sink. It is
[40:16] estimated over 600 major cities on the
[40:19] planet could be underwater in the next
[40:21] 25 years time
[40:24] because as the ice melts and goes the
[40:27] equation of the water is changing. What
[40:30] is in the mountain is going into the
[40:32] ocean. And as the temperatures increase,
[40:35] what is in the soil also is rising as
[40:38] steam and going into the ocean. The the
[40:42] three different pockets of water,
[40:44] mountains, soil, and ocean is all
[40:48] getting loaded into the ocean as
[40:50] temperatures increase.
[40:52] So this phenomena is going to continue.
[40:56] So every matchick we strike we can count
[41:00] but somebody is busy developing nuclear
[41:03] bombs all the time all over the world.
[41:06] This is not a time to point fingers at
[41:09] anybody. This is not a time but it's
[41:12] important we understand all this is
[41:16] cause of human activity.
[41:19] As humanity we need to address this
[41:22] right now in Nepal.
[41:26] There is do what we want, say what we
[41:29] want, what philosophies we believe in,
[41:32] whatever rubbish we think of. The
[41:35] resounding silence of death is there.
[41:39] You can't change that. You can't reclaim
[41:42] lives that are gone. That is not in our
[41:46] hands.
[41:48] Death is a resounding silence.
[41:51] So it's important that we understand the
[41:55] only thing that left right now is
[41:58] rescue, relief, reconstruction.
[42:02] I think the time frame for rescue is
[42:06] almost over in my opinion.
[42:09] Relief and reconstruction.
[42:11] So shall we immediately build back? I
[42:15] think we need to think a little more.
[42:17] It's important that relief yes must
[42:21] happen immediately
[42:23] and it's important that a calamity of
[42:26] this nature and volume should not be
[42:30] left just to the Nepali government. It's
[42:32] important the world bodies participate
[42:35] in this because it's beyond any single
[42:38] government to handle these kind of
[42:39] situations.
[42:41] physically if you see what's happened
[42:43] there it's just incomprehensible
[42:47] that's the kind of thing it is
[42:49] so uh in the year
[42:53] 2015 and 16 I worked with uh
[43:00] Sri Anil Dhawe who was the union
[43:05] minister of state for environment in
[43:07] India
[43:09] to form a body for western got which is
[43:14] the mountain systems in southern India
[43:16] which runs through five different states
[43:19] with different governments everybody
[43:21] making their own stuff so I said we need
[43:24] to make a common body the mountains
[43:26] don't know your political affiliation
[43:30] the mountains don't know what nonsense
[43:33] or language that you speak
[43:36] so this ecosystem
[43:38] India has remained remain what it is
[43:41] only because of western gods. If you
[43:44] shave the western gods dry, India will
[43:47] turn into a desert in a matter of 20
[43:49] years time.
[43:51] So based on this, we said we must form a
[43:54] body or a board where a common
[43:56] management for the western god system
[43:58] mountain systems happens. At the same
[44:01] time we also proposed that we must form
[44:05] a Himalayan board where these five
[44:08] nations India, China, Pakistan, Nepal
[44:12] and uh Bhutan
[44:15] should form a body. Even if you cannot
[44:18] administer it as one body, at least
[44:21] consultation must happen as one body. At
[44:24] least there must be some congregance of
[44:26] action in what we do because
[44:29] Himalayas is the most fantastic
[44:34] and majestic feature on the planet.
[44:38] At the same time, it is super fragile,
[44:42] very fragile.
[44:45] A body which comprises all these nations
[44:48] where the Himalayan ranges run has to
[44:50] happen. Now what more do we need? We
[44:53] want the whole of Mount Everest to
[44:55] collapse on our heads before we act. It
[44:57] is time a body comes up and even if you
[45:02] have political administrations are
[45:04] separate in some way the mountain ranges
[45:07] have to be looked at a feature that
[45:09] needs to be protected for the future
[45:11] generations on the planet. It's
[45:13] extremely important to do this now.
[45:17] If you don't do this and go on thinking
[45:19] okay Nepal's problem let them do their
[45:21] problem there will be never there shall
[45:24] never be a solution. It's extremely
[45:27] important. I beseech all of you who have
[45:29] the necessary influence in the
[45:30] government uh and in the society to push
[45:34] for this which we will do from India
[45:36] that there has to be a body. Our
[45:40] politics, our ideas of borders, our
[45:43] ideas of nationality, this is all human
[45:47] problems.
[45:49] The mountain goat in Himalayas
[45:52] does not respect your borders. He's
[45:55] hopping all over the place. The birds in
[45:58] the breeze doesn't care about your
[46:02] nationality
[46:03] or the sacred boundaries of your nation.
[46:07] As we stand in the immigration lines, I
[46:10] see the birds are hopping from this
[46:12] nation to that nation and that nation to
[46:14] this nation, mocking us of the stupidity
[46:17] that we are as human beings.
[46:21] This is important that we understand
[46:25] whatever boundaries we create are okay
[46:27] for administration purposes or okay for
[46:31] certain realities that we handle but
[46:34] they are not absolute.
[46:36] The lines that we create on the planet.
[46:39] This is my part of this is my piece of
[46:41] Himalaya. That is your piece of
[46:43] Himalaya. This stupidity has to go if we
[46:47] have to come to a comprehensive
[46:48] solution.
[46:50] But this does not mean we're going to
[46:52] solve everything. At least we can make
[46:54] it little better.
[46:56] The whole solution is not in our hands.
[46:59] Even if these five nations come to sense
[47:01] and form a body and administer Himalayas
[47:04] as a separate entity beyond our
[47:07] nationalities,
[47:09] still the solution is not absolute. It
[47:12] can just get little better. And this is
[47:15] what we can do as human beings because
[47:17] however we think of ourselves whatever
[47:20] we may think of ourselves as great
[47:22] beings just see a ton of mud can finish
[47:27] it in a moment. Hello.
[47:30] So we need to understand the perspective
[47:33] that as a life we are a tiny little life
[47:35] on this planet but if we come together
[47:39] we can do something little better than
[47:42] the way it is right now. So this
[47:45] possibility of
[47:48] administering Himalayas as one unit not
[47:51] as separation separate nations is a very
[47:54] important thing and even when it comes
[47:57] to reconstruction which must happen
[47:59] because people have suffered but it must
[48:02] happen with international consultation.
[48:05] There may be local compulsions that
[48:06] immediately they want to build something
[48:08] back. I understand the compulsions. I
[48:11] respect the compulsions but it's very
[48:14] important it is done with proper
[48:16] international consultation because
[48:20] the population pressures and the
[48:23] pressure of earning a living is making
[48:26] people go to the edge all the time more
[48:30] and more. If one guy builds a house
[48:32] here, the next guy builds it here, next
[48:34] guy builds it just on the edge and it
[48:36] gets washed away. So whatever the
[48:40] population and economic pressures we
[48:42] have, it's important that with proper
[48:45] consultation it is done. There is no
[48:48] perfect way to do it but we can do it a
[48:50] little better. Definitely we can do it
[48:52] little better. I beseech everybody in
[48:55] Nepal to take that that we must
[48:58] immediately form a body of experts who
[49:01] will advise as to how this should be
[49:04] done so that in future
[49:07] we cannot absolutely mitigate the
[49:09] suffering we can minimize the suffering
[49:12] that definitely can be done. So uh on
[49:15] this day being here with all of you in
[49:20] solidarity with this wonderful nation
[49:23] it's important we understand I think
[49:25] Manisha already mentioned it that we
[49:29] don't paint a picture that this is a
[49:32] land of disaster. This is very
[49:34] important.
[49:36] Right now I'm hearing the international
[49:39] channels going about how many disasters
[49:41] Nepal Nepal has had. The next thing is
[49:44] some nation will give an advisory. It's
[49:45] not a safe place to go to. This should
[49:48] not happen. It's very important as she
[49:52] was mentioning
[49:54] because
[49:57] because of a situation or a disaster,
[50:00] our feet are crushed. We should not
[50:02] shoot ourselves in the head. Very
[50:05] important. It's very important. Nepales
[50:08] show it's a good place to go to that.
[50:12] It's not a disastrous place. It's not a
[50:14] dangerous place. Your life is not at
[50:16] risk just because you come to Nepal. I
[50:19] must tell you this. I have not even told
[50:21] anybody in the group. This time after I
[50:24] went up Kalash and I was coming down, I
[50:26] made up my mind enough. 21 times I've
[50:29] come to Kalash. Enough. Next year I will
[50:32] do something else.
[50:34] I thought it's enough. Now because of
[50:36] these 80 people I have to come back in
[50:39] 27 and I will
[50:44] >> [applause]
[50:49] >> and Kailashhatra is a very important
[50:51] part in Nepal's tourism economy. We must
[50:55] keep it up. We should not make it like
[50:58] it's it's a death wish. It is not.
[51:02] Unfortunately, it's happened. For those
[51:04] who have lost their families, I know you
[51:07] cannot explain anything to them. Their
[51:09] emotions are overwhelming.
[51:11] But every one of us must understand
[51:15] going to Kailash is not a death wish.
[51:18] It's important. It continues. It's been
[51:20] on for over 12,000 years. And we must
[51:23] continue that. It's important for our
[51:25] culture. It's important for our
[51:27] civilization and it's very important for
[51:29] Nepal's economy also. As a part of this
[51:32] on 3rd of September, we will be
[51:35] performing a kala karma for these 80
[51:38] people. But if you know other people who
[51:40] have lost their lives, we want their
[51:42] names, photographs if possible a
[51:45] personal item from their life so that we
[51:47] can include those people also to perform
[51:50] this scalabra karma. This will happen in
[51:52] Isha Yoga Center in India. I will
[51:55] personally participate in that and also
[51:59] because Isha Foundation India has some
[52:02] legal limitations. We are not able to do
[52:05] anything from there. But Isha Nepal will
[52:08] commit 1 cr rupees on this day to the
[52:12] prime minister's fund and we will see
[52:14] what else we can do later. Thank you
[52:16] very much.
[52:23] Thank you Sguru for being with us today
[52:25] and for sharing your thoughts and
[52:27] reflections at a time when many of us
[52:29] are struggling to find the right words.
[52:32] Your presence here today has given us
[52:35] moment to pause to listen and to come
[52:37] together in the midst of such profound
[52:39] grief and uncertainty. We will now open
[52:42] the floor for a few questions. I believe
[52:44] Manisha G has the first question. Please
[52:46] open the floor for uh the questions. We
[52:49] will then take questions from the
[52:51] audience.
[53:03] Guru G I have many questions but I will
[53:06] just ask one question.
[53:10] Um
[53:15] what can we
[53:18] as human
[53:20] as a Nepali
[53:22] take from this kind of disastrous
[53:27] calmity this kind of experience.
[53:36] See as a human being
[53:40] we should not wait for disasters to
[53:42] happen.
[53:44] The first and the foremost thing to
[53:46] understand about being human is that we
[53:50] should know every moment of our life
[53:52] that we are mortal.
[53:57] Because only if you're conscious
[54:01] that you are on a very limited lease of
[54:03] time that you can make that time into
[54:06] your beautiful possibility.
[54:09] If you think you are for here forever,
[54:12] well there shall be a funeral.
[54:15] All right? For all of us there shall be
[54:18] a funeral
[54:20] because there is nobody here who is
[54:22] immortal.
[54:25] We are mortal. Being mortal means we are
[54:29] here on a limited lease of time.
[54:32] If we are continuously conscious about
[54:34] this,
[54:36] we will plan and execute our life in the
[54:39] most sensible way possible
[54:42] based on our own intelligence, our own
[54:44] capabilities and the situations in which
[54:47] we exist and the times in which we
[54:49] exist. We will make the best possible
[54:52] things for ourselves and everybody
[54:54] around us. The moment we forget we have
[54:57] we are mortal. We have a lot of time to
[55:00] do all kinds of stupid things.
[55:05] Just I want you to understand suppose
[55:08] you know life will end tomorrow. Will
[55:10] you have time to quarrel with somebody?
[55:13] Will you have time to get angry with
[55:15] someone? Will you have time to do
[55:17] anything that doesn't truly matter to
[55:19] you?
[55:20] So if you conscious that you're mortal,
[55:23] you will do what truly matters to you.
[55:26] If every one of us are doing what
[55:28] genuinely matters to us, we will create
[55:30] a great world. Otherwise, we will do
[55:33] silly things all the time.
[55:36] >> Thank you Guruji.
[55:43] >> Thank you Sguru. Thank you Manisha G.
[55:45] The floor is now open for questions. If
[55:47] you have any queries, please raise your
[55:49] hands. Our volunteers will bring the
[55:51] microphone to you.
[56:02] Namaskar.
[56:06] Um
[56:10] uh I have many questions as well
[56:14] but
[56:16] I can't okay how can I become a good
[56:21] human being and do good to the world as
[56:25] an artist and also as a being
[56:33] and can I hug Yeah.
[56:42] [laughter]
[56:45] See uh
[56:49] in the world
[56:51] people who think they are good, they are
[56:54] the people who have done the most
[56:55] horrible things on the planet.
[56:59] Hello.
[57:02] A good Hindu is fighting a good Muslim.
[57:06] A good Indian is fighting a good
[57:07] Pakistani.
[57:09] A good American fighting just about
[57:12] anybody.
[57:18] The more good you think you are, the
[57:20] more you are a problem on the planet. We
[57:22] don't need good people. We've had enough
[57:25] of them.
[57:31] We need joyful and sensible people on
[57:34] this planet. We know don't need those
[57:37] good people because how do I become
[57:40] good?
[57:42] Because I think you this one, this one,
[57:44] this one, this one are no good. That's
[57:47] how I am good.
[57:50] If you were the only person on this
[57:52] planet, would you know whether you are
[57:54] good or not? Would you know?
[57:58] So goodness is made up in comparison
[58:00] with somebody.
[58:02] But even if you are alone on this
[58:03] planet, you would know whether you're
[58:05] joyful or not, whether you're sensible
[58:07] or not. Yes or no?
[58:09] So we need more joyful and sensible
[58:13] human beings.
[58:16] When I say sense,
[58:19] at least you must know you're mortal.
[58:21] People come and tell me sguru my enemy.
[58:24] I can't bear him. I say hey just wait.
[58:27] He will die.
[58:29] Just wait. Either he will die or you
[58:32] will die.
[58:34] If you die first, you won the race. If
[58:36] he dies first, you won the race. But
[58:38] both ways you're relieved.
[58:41] I'm saying in a brief life, how many
[58:44] problems we are creating? I am saying
[58:47] brief not because I want you to do die
[58:49] young. If you live to be 100, but what
[58:53] potential the human being carries, 100
[58:56] years is too brief.
[58:58] If you're living senselessly, it looks
[59:01] like it's too long.
[59:03] If you're exploring the possibility of
[59:05] what's being human, 100 years is
[59:07] nothing. Before you know what's
[59:09] happening, it's a funeral day.
[59:12] Yes, it is.
[59:14] So, I want to be a good human being.
[59:17] Leave that. First become a joyful human
[59:20] being. What does being joyful mean?
[59:23] See as a child when you were a little
[59:26] girl
[59:28] you were hopping with joy for no reason.
[59:31] Hello.
[59:33] For no reason.
[59:36] Somebody had to work hard to make you
[59:38] unhappy.
[59:40] Today somebody has to work you work very
[59:43] hard to make you happy.
[59:46] If you just reverse this equation, you
[59:48] will see life will come to sense
[59:52] because right now in pursuit of
[59:54] happiness, we destroying everything. Why
[59:58] a 2,000 ft wide glacier falls down east?
[1:00:01] Human beings are in pursuit of
[1:00:03] happiness. They are not joyful by their
[1:00:06] own nature. Doesn't matter what they do.
[1:00:09] The bloody human beings are not happy.
[1:00:12] Compared to your great-grandfather 3,
[1:00:14] four generations ago, you have 25 to 50
[1:00:18] times more clothes. Your house is 10
[1:00:21] times bigger. Everything is better. Yes
[1:00:23] or no?
[1:00:25] But still, you're not happy. You want to
[1:00:27] burn the goddamn planet down. Till then
[1:00:29] you will not be happy.
[1:00:32] So good people are the ones who are
[1:00:34] doing all this.
[1:00:36] Very good people.
[1:00:38] We have had enough of them. We need
[1:00:41] exuberant joyful people who naturally
[1:00:44] comes to understand the sense of life,
[1:00:46] the importance of being alive. Not the
[1:00:49] importance of clothes, not the
[1:00:51] importance of jewelry, not the
[1:00:53] importance of wealth, but the importance
[1:00:55] of the life that we are.
[1:00:58] If that happens, that's good. And you
[1:01:01] would definitely help me in my work.
[1:01:06] >> Thank you very much. Thank you, Sguru.
[1:01:10] We'll take a few more questions. I see
[1:01:15] would like to take um the question
[1:01:18] there.
[1:01:20] Namaskarum sguru.
[1:01:22] I'm so nervous. It feels like a dream to
[1:01:25] meet you.
[1:01:25] >> Where are you? Where are you? Okay.
[1:01:28] >> It feels like a dream to meet you in
[1:01:30] person today. Um my question is that
[1:01:37] the situations uh the cases going on
[1:01:41] around in today's uh generation and
[1:01:43] today's times and recent flash flood we
[1:01:47] witnessed
[1:01:48] these uh cases this uh tragedies has
[1:01:52] deeply reminded me or keeps reminding me
[1:01:56] of uh the fear the fear of death, dying
[1:02:02] before uh knowing the truth. How what is
[1:02:06] this fear? Why is this fear and how do I
[1:02:10] overcome?
[1:02:13] >> Okay.
[1:02:17] I know you did not mention any alphabet,
[1:02:20] but uh you're saying my generation. I'm
[1:02:23] sure you're leaving me out of that.
[1:02:27] [clears throat]
[1:02:30] In my understanding of life, everybody
[1:02:32] who alive today is one generation.
[1:02:36] Hello.
[1:02:38] But you have taken certain alphabets.
[1:02:41] You who is just 20 years of age. If
[1:02:44] you're Z, what am I Z++? Is it?
[1:02:49] I'm just trying to understand.
[1:02:52] Please. Already human beings are divided
[1:02:56] in a million different ways. Race,
[1:02:59] religion, cast, creed, gender, nonsense,
[1:03:02] all kinds of things. Now don't go on
[1:03:05] dividing humanity on the basis of
[1:03:08] chronological age. Hello,
[1:03:13] stop this process because this is a
[1:03:16] frivolous process for which we will pay
[1:03:18] a price. I know this is an unpopular
[1:03:20] thing to say because people are
[1:03:23] projecting like because they are a
[1:03:25] certain age group they are a separate
[1:03:27] species by themselves.
[1:03:31] You are not
[1:03:34] as all of us are alive on this planet.
[1:03:36] We are one generation of people.
[1:03:40] Will we be a sensible generation?
[1:03:43] Will we be a sensible generation? A
[1:03:46] generation which will do constructive
[1:03:48] things or destructive things is left to
[1:03:51] us.
[1:03:52] Hello. Will we do smart things or stupid
[1:03:55] things is left to us.
[1:03:58] So once you go on dividing humanity in
[1:04:02] some way unknowingly you keep dividing
[1:04:04] yourself into smaller and smaller
[1:04:06] entities.
[1:04:08] No wonder you will live in fear. You
[1:04:11] must understand this in this cosmos.
[1:04:16] where nobody knows where it begins,
[1:04:19] where it ends.
[1:04:21] Neither the men of science know where
[1:04:23] this cosmos begins and where it ends.
[1:04:26] Nor do the so-called people who call
[1:04:29] themselves men of God, they know where
[1:04:31] it begins, where it ends. Does anybody
[1:04:33] know? Hello. No. In such a vast cosmos,
[1:04:41] you and me are a tiny speck.
[1:04:44] Microscopic.
[1:04:46] Yes,
[1:04:48] microscopic.
[1:04:50] So what is the basis of all these fears
[1:04:52] and anxieties and problems? Is this
[1:04:57] see [clears throat]
[1:05:01] in the nature of things
[1:05:05] this solar system where we are all
[1:05:08] living right now
[1:05:12] in the known universe that we have
[1:05:14] explored
[1:05:16] the solar system and above all planet
[1:05:19] earth is the best place we have seen for
[1:05:22] life. best possibility for life. Well,
[1:05:26] there are some people who believe there
[1:05:28] are other planets which are better than
[1:05:30] this, but they won't go.
[1:05:34] There are some people who believe there
[1:05:36] is a planet full of drugs, they want to
[1:05:38] go. You know this? You not heard of
[1:05:42] this?
[1:05:43] Okay. And there are some other people, a
[1:05:46] whole large number of people who believe
[1:05:49] there's another place that they call as
[1:05:50] heaven which is better than this. But
[1:05:52] why are they not gone?
[1:05:57] Just they're selling these ideas to
[1:05:59] people. This came to us about 5 days
[1:06:01] ago. A couple in Florida were caught and
[1:06:05] arrested because they were selling
[1:06:08] tickets to heaven.
[1:06:11] They were selling golden tickets.
[1:06:14] They were arrested because it was not
[1:06:16] real gold.
[1:06:20] Because if you arrest people for selling
[1:06:22] tickets to heaven, you know who all will
[1:06:24] go.
[1:06:26] Hello.
[1:06:29] A large number of people who are
[1:06:31] supposed to be leaders, religious
[1:06:32] people, everybody will go
[1:06:35] to the prison. They should have. But
[1:06:40] these guys were arrested because it was
[1:06:42] fake gold.
[1:06:44] If they were smart, they should have
[1:06:46] made real gold tickets and sold it for a
[1:06:49] higher price,
[1:06:51] it would have been okay.
[1:06:55] So these things are happening in the
[1:06:58] world because we don't value the life
[1:07:01] that is here and now.
[1:07:05] This is the place to live. Do you have
[1:07:08] any proof that you are not already in
[1:07:11] heaven and making a mess out of it?
[1:07:14] That is the reality.
[1:07:16] Just look at this universe from outside.
[1:07:19] Of all the places, planet earth is the
[1:07:21] heaven.
[1:07:24] But we are making a mess out of it. And
[1:07:27] some idiots create some perverted idea
[1:07:29] of heaven somewhere else.
[1:07:33] They want you to go. They're not going.
[1:07:36] You must understand that. So fear comes
[1:07:40] because we don't understand the
[1:07:42] fundamental nature of our existence. We
[1:07:45] have a psychological picture which has
[1:07:47] no connection with the reality.
[1:07:51] You have created a psychological reality
[1:07:54] which is not rooted in the existentially
[1:07:56] true things. This is what you need to
[1:07:59] do. This is what the word yoga means.
[1:08:03] that you understand and you create a
[1:08:06] deep connection, a profound connection
[1:08:09] with the life process, not with your
[1:08:11] psychological nonsense. You can make up
[1:08:14] whatever you want in your mind. You can
[1:08:16] make up a god or a devil in your head
[1:08:18] right now. Yes or no? Right now. Yes or
[1:08:22] no?
[1:08:24] You can make up whatever you want. It
[1:08:26] has nothing to do with reality. It's
[1:08:29] extremely important. Your psychological
[1:08:32] reality in some way reflects the
[1:08:35] existentially true things. If you get
[1:08:38] disconnected for some time, you'll have
[1:08:41] a good trip in your mind. Then it'll go
[1:08:43] into a bad trip which you call as fear.
[1:08:46] And this is happening sooner than
[1:08:49] before. A lot of people used to face
[1:08:50] this on their deathbed. Now you are
[1:08:53] facing it in the university itself. I
[1:08:55] think it's a good sign
[1:08:58] because hope you will wake up. Hope you
[1:09:01] will not commit suicide but you will sit
[1:09:03] up and start looking at life more
[1:09:06] profoundly rather than the rubbish that
[1:09:09] happens in your head.
[1:09:13] >> Thank you. For the next question you may
[1:09:15] raise your hand or volunteers will get
[1:09:17] the microphone to you.
[1:09:24] Please wait for the microphone.
[1:09:26] Namaste Guru. Um I'm Aner Giri from Yoho
[1:09:30] Television.
[1:09:33] And I would like to ask you a question
[1:09:34] with regards to this word called
[1:09:37] compassion. Um amidst all of this chaos
[1:09:40] that we have in the world right now
[1:09:42] because of war, because of climate
[1:09:44] change, um a lot of us are compelled to
[1:09:48] share and express our sorrows. And
[1:09:51] during this time, young people have
[1:09:53] begun to ask the question about
[1:09:55] compassion.
[1:09:56] What is compassion? And more
[1:09:59] importantly, can we call ourselves
[1:10:01] compassionate
[1:10:03] for simply feeling and praying when it
[1:10:07] does not have actual impact on those who
[1:10:10] are actually suffering at the moment?
[1:10:13] That is my question.
[1:10:17] >> Looks like a popular question.
[1:10:23] Do you know what is passion?
[1:10:27] Hello.
[1:10:29] Um, I believe passion is a sort of
[1:10:32] dedication that you would have towards
[1:10:35] anything such as a hobby or a belief or
[1:10:41] a goal in life.
[1:10:42] >> You don't have any people.
[1:10:46] You don't have any people in life that
[1:10:48] you're passionate about? [laughter]
[1:10:51] >> Um, of course I would say um, everyone
[1:10:55] has people that they truly care about.
[1:10:59] >> No, it's not about that. Passion means
[1:11:02] unbridled level of involvement with
[1:11:05] something or someone.
[1:11:09] >> Um, I want to know is
[1:11:12] >> I will come to compassion please.
[1:11:15] Essentially
[1:11:19] passion means
[1:11:22] a sense of deep involvement with
[1:11:24] something or somebody
[1:11:27] where all the guard rails that you have,
[1:11:31] you cross.
[1:11:33] When you're passionate, you keep your
[1:11:35] boundaries aside. What you thought was
[1:11:38] very valuable to you, you're willing to
[1:11:40] put it away because you're passionate
[1:11:43] about something. It may be a person, it
[1:11:46] may be a thing to do or whatever it is.
[1:11:48] It may be nation, it may be community,
[1:11:50] anything. Passion.
[1:11:53] Why people
[1:11:55] give to passion is because most people
[1:11:58] do not know how to be alive without
[1:12:01] being passionate.
[1:12:03] There is a way to be alive without
[1:12:05] passion.
[1:12:07] But for 99% of the population, they do
[1:12:11] not know how to experience an intense
[1:12:14] sense of life without being passionate
[1:12:16] about something.
[1:12:19] So they become passionate because that's
[1:12:21] the way they become alive. Essentially
[1:12:24] they seek aliveness. You must understand
[1:12:27] this. Whether you fall in love or you
[1:12:30] get drunk or you go for the drug or you
[1:12:33] do something else, you jump off the
[1:12:34] mountain, do whatever, essentially you
[1:12:37] want to feel more alive than the way you
[1:12:40] are right now.
[1:12:42] So in this effort, you become
[1:12:44] passionate. If you become passionate
[1:12:47] about something or someone, what happens
[1:12:50] is the rest of the world disappears.
[1:12:54] I'm passionate about you.
[1:12:57] Only you and me exist.
[1:12:59] Others don't exist at that time. This is
[1:13:02] the
[1:13:04] beauty of people who are in passionate
[1:13:06] relationships that the world disappeared
[1:13:08] for them. Just them.
[1:13:11] But if you live like this for some time,
[1:13:14] the world will take revenge upon you. It
[1:13:18] will. Hello.
[1:13:20] Many love affairs which were wonderful
[1:13:23] at one time slowly became ugly because
[1:13:26] the world won't let you be that way
[1:13:27] because you can't exclude them and live.
[1:13:31] So compassion means an allincclusive
[1:13:34] passion that you are equally passionate
[1:13:37] about everything.
[1:13:39] Well today unfortunately the word
[1:13:42] compassion has been translated to as
[1:13:46] kindness.
[1:13:48] Kindness
[1:13:50] is not for a lively human being.
[1:13:53] If you fallen,
[1:13:55] you need kindness.
[1:13:58] If you're standing on your feet, you
[1:14:00] don't want kindness. Suppose you got a
[1:14:02] job and then you realized they gave you
[1:14:06] this job on a compassionate basis.
[1:14:09] [snorts]
[1:14:10] You like it?
[1:14:12] Hello? Do you like it? You want the job
[1:14:16] on your competence or compassion?
[1:14:18] Hello.
[1:14:22] You got married. Let me get a little
[1:14:24] more personal with you. And then you
[1:14:26] realized your wife married you on a
[1:14:29] compassionate basis.
[1:14:31] Not on a passionate basis. On a
[1:14:33] compassionate basis. You want that?
[1:14:37] Hello? No.
[1:14:39] because you want to be valued for your
[1:14:42] competence, for who you are, what you
[1:14:44] can do,
[1:14:46] not because of somebody's compassion.
[1:14:50] So, I know that word is in currency all
[1:14:52] over the place. Everybody's pushing it.
[1:14:55] Well,
[1:14:57] this is
[1:14:59] this is a world today run by trendy
[1:15:02] narratives. They will push anything.
[1:15:06] 10 people who have enough money can
[1:15:08] tomorrow make hate a popular word
[1:15:12] they can on the social media I hate you
[1:15:14] I hate you I hate you can be made
[1:15:16] popular if a few film stars and others
[1:15:19] say hate is a good thing you will see
[1:15:21] everybody will start saying hate is a
[1:15:23] great thing so don't go by the social
[1:15:26] narratives because they come and go
[1:15:30] just sit down and see what makes this
[1:15:32] life better hello forget about the
[1:15:35] social realities. Forget about what
[1:15:37] makes you better in the world. Just if
[1:15:40] you sit here, what makes this life
[1:15:42] better? Look at that. If you look at
[1:15:45] that profoundly enough, you found
[1:15:47] answers for everything.
[1:15:56] Please wait for the microphone.
[1:16:06] Namaskarum Sguru.
[1:16:08] Uh in the last safe moment that happened
[1:16:13] here, uh you told us you
[1:16:17] uh talked with the government body about
[1:16:20] how to proceed with the safe soil
[1:16:24] moment. And it seems that our government
[1:16:27] bodies uh let it go by their ears and
[1:16:32] now you are talking about these uh the
[1:16:35] another body to for the protection of
[1:16:38] the mountains. So I think by mentioning
[1:16:42] this here in your presence maybe they
[1:16:45] will listen and uh work seriously
[1:16:49] towards it. It's just for them. So in
[1:16:53] your presence I would say uh they will
[1:16:56] remember at least. Thank you.
[1:17:02] >> As a citizen of this nation, you must
[1:17:06] make sure that they remember
[1:17:08] because you must understand you're in a
[1:17:10] democratic nation. The people who got
[1:17:13] elected to run the government did not
[1:17:17] descend from heaven who know everything.
[1:17:19] They're just like you. They choose just
[1:17:22] took up the responsibility of doing
[1:17:24] something. This doesn't mean they know
[1:17:26] everything.
[1:17:28] The people have to stand up without
[1:17:30] pointing fingers at each other. If you
[1:17:33] say definitely this needs to happen. We
[1:17:36] will push from the Indian side, we will
[1:17:38] see from the other nations which are a
[1:17:41] little more difficult to do. But if
[1:17:43] India, Nepal, Bhutan which are easier to
[1:17:46] put together, if we say Himalayan region
[1:17:50] needs if not a common administration at
[1:17:53] least a common consultative process,
[1:17:57] it will find some solutions.
[1:18:10] Sguru
[1:18:15] Sister Mina Gupta 77 people
[1:18:20] say
[1:18:21] Sachi Shanga
[1:18:29] husband
[1:18:38] [snorts]
[1:18:53] family India.
[1:19:21] There are no words
[1:19:24] which can bring back lives. There are no
[1:19:27] words
[1:19:29] which can erase the pain
[1:19:32] of the children who lost their mother
[1:19:35] and the rest of the family.
[1:19:38] I will not try to do that because I know
[1:19:41] what it means.
[1:19:44] I know what it means personally.
[1:19:47] So
[1:19:50] it's very important
[1:19:52] that we realize
[1:19:56] we as a life here as physical bodies. We
[1:19:59] are a physical phenomena
[1:20:02] ruled by physical laws.
[1:20:04] Don't try to find mystical solutions to
[1:20:07] this.
[1:20:08] Don't try to find philosophical
[1:20:11] explanation to this. This is the reality
[1:20:14] of our existence right now that we are
[1:20:17] here this moment. Next moment we may not
[1:20:20] be here. It's not just for your sister.
[1:20:23] It's for every one of us. Unfortunately,
[1:20:26] it happened to her. But I must tell you
[1:20:30] this is on 26th August. 27th August at
[1:20:34] 9:00 a.m. me and my group were supposed
[1:20:37] to be there,
[1:20:39] just a 24-hour difference.
[1:20:44] Just if it came the next day, the ice
[1:20:48] took 24 hours more to melt, it would be
[1:20:51] us. It's the same thing I'm saying.
[1:20:55] So, because of who I am, you think the
[1:20:57] flood won't hit me? It will.
[1:21:01] This is the nature of life.
[1:21:04] So this is the basis of sanatan. From
[1:21:07] day one,
[1:21:09] children are made to attend funerals.
[1:21:12] Families are always being told that life
[1:21:16] is very brief.
[1:21:20] We are not talking about going to
[1:21:22] heaven. We are not talking about God
[1:21:24] holding your hand. We are telling you
[1:21:26] continuously this is your karma. do the
[1:21:29] best that you can because the nature of
[1:21:31] physical life is such you may be here
[1:21:34] today and tomorrow gone. I know this is
[1:21:36] painful to be talking to you like this
[1:21:39] because right now you're in that state
[1:21:42] where all these things don't matter. All
[1:21:44] you want is you want your sister back. I
[1:21:47] understand that 100%.
[1:21:50] But
[1:21:52] nobody has brought back the dead though
[1:21:54] people claim. Hello.
[1:21:58] Though people claim all kinds of things,
[1:22:01] nobody has brought back those who are
[1:22:03] gone. Stories and fairy tales are there.
[1:22:07] In reality, it never happened. So this
[1:22:10] is why I said your psychological
[1:22:12] structure should be aligned with the
[1:22:15] reality of our existence. It should not
[1:22:18] become hallucinatory because then the
[1:22:21] life that is here will be wasted. We
[1:22:24] will ask people your sister was dear to
[1:22:27] you. So was she to us. I know who she
[1:22:29] who you're talking about. And
[1:22:34] the only thing we can do is for the
[1:22:37] people that we have lost untimely. This
[1:22:41] is important.
[1:22:43] So is there anybody here who is
[1:22:45] immortal? Hello?
[1:22:47] Nobody. So all of us die. We are only
[1:22:51] trying to push the date. We are only
[1:22:53] negotiating more time. Nobody is
[1:22:56] negotiating life or death.
[1:22:58] All of us negotiating little more time
[1:23:00] that's all.
[1:23:02] So
[1:23:05] in this culture in this civilization we
[1:23:07] don't have anything called as good death
[1:23:09] and bad death. We have
[1:23:13] akalamu and sakalamu. That means
[1:23:17] untimely death and timely death. There
[1:23:20] is no good death and bad death.
[1:23:23] So the pain of your sister is it's
[1:23:26] untimely death. A young woman.
[1:23:30] Yes, there is pain. There are children
[1:23:33] there is even more pain.
[1:23:35] Young children.
[1:23:38] So I will not
[1:23:41] adventure into saying words which are
[1:23:44] supposed to bring down your pain. No, I
[1:23:47] want to understand the nature of life
[1:23:49] because that is the only way you will be
[1:23:52] relieved of these things. Otherwise,
[1:23:55] everything will hurt us on the way.
[1:23:58] Everything,
[1:24:00] not just death. Life and death hurts
[1:24:03] people, isn't it? Aren't people
[1:24:05] suffering life for a lot more than
[1:24:07] death? Hello, a whole lot of people. So
[1:24:10] please,
[1:24:12] I'm not here to say those kind words
[1:24:15] which are supposed to heal you. No, I'm
[1:24:18] just telling you all of us should come
[1:24:21] to tune with reality of existence. This
[1:24:25] is the nature of existence. We are here
[1:24:27] this moment. Next moment we could be
[1:24:30] gone. Not just for your this reality is
[1:24:33] not just for your sister. This is for
[1:24:35] every one of us. every piece of life
[1:24:38] that's on this planet. This is the
[1:24:40] reality. If we understand this, we will
[1:24:43] value every breath, every moment that we
[1:24:46] have here and make the best for
[1:24:48] ourselves and everybody around us.
[1:24:50] Please, our volunteers have already
[1:24:53] reached out to your family there in UK.
[1:24:56] They are with the family. They are
[1:24:57] saying what they can do. Everything that
[1:24:59] can be done will be done. But nobody
[1:25:02] will bring her back. Let's be straight
[1:25:05] about that.
[1:25:07] A life lost is lost.
[1:25:09] >> Thank you. Thank you, Sguru. We're
[1:25:12] taking one last question.
[1:25:20] My name is Karam Sadguru. Um I'm uh
[1:25:24] Previne's son. Uh he was the man who led
[1:25:28] the group of 77 in the immigration
[1:25:31] center that day.
[1:25:33] Uh Sgu, if we don't do anything,
[1:25:36] millions of people just like my father
[1:25:38] will die. Um global warming is only
[1:25:43] going to make it worse. And what was
[1:25:45] clear is that governments didn't
[1:25:48] communicate with each other. Coordinated
[1:25:50] rescue is needed.
[1:25:53] If people acted hours before,
[1:25:56] thousands of lives could be saved. And I
[1:25:59] agree that a body is needed which
[1:26:04] coordinates efforts between embassies,
[1:26:06] governments,
[1:26:08] search and rescue teams and families.
[1:26:11] And my nana, he was with you on the safe
[1:26:14] soul journey. He always used to tell me
[1:26:17] about how excited he was about your next
[1:26:20] campaign.
[1:26:22] So I request that you make this your
[1:26:25] next campaign.
[1:26:27] Crossborder
[1:26:29] disasters will continue to happen.
[1:26:31] Floods, tsunamis, earthquakes, and we
[1:26:33] need a body for coordinated rescue.
[1:26:36] Let's go.
[1:26:45] [clears throat]
[1:26:51] Raven has been a part of everything that
[1:26:53] we do in Asia for the last two decades.
[1:26:59] It's heartbreaking to see you here.
[1:27:11] Well, uh,
[1:27:13] bringing nations together,
[1:27:17] even bringing two
[1:27:21] quarreling people together
[1:27:23] is unfortunately so difficult.
[1:27:27] Bringing nations together
[1:27:31] is a very difficult task. That doesn't
[1:27:35] mean we will give up. It's not within
[1:27:38] the capacity of who I am to do that. But
[1:27:42] we will definitely push the Indian
[1:27:44] administration towards that. The many
[1:27:47] leaders of this nation here and
[1:27:50] influencers like Manisha and many more.
[1:27:53] Please all of you should push
[1:27:55] Nepal to seek this cooperation because
[1:27:58] you've been hit by this you have more
[1:28:02] you're more qualified to ask for that
[1:28:05] if India asks for that right now they
[1:28:07] will think it's some geopolitical
[1:28:09] rubbish
[1:28:10] but everything we have politics in the
[1:28:13] world but everything we look at it
[1:28:16] suspiciously we don't trust human beings
[1:28:18] on the planet anymore unfortunately
[1:28:22] if you stand up and say something we
[1:28:24] think you're up to something.
[1:28:26] Unfortunately, we have come to the level
[1:28:29] of distrust in the world, particularly
[1:28:32] between nations
[1:28:34] and between communities, between people.
[1:28:36] This has happened.
[1:28:41] We will do our best. But uh it's not
[1:28:44] within my capacity because governments
[1:28:46] have to make these decisions.
[1:28:49] I was working with the minister of state
[1:28:51] for environment. He was a wonderful man
[1:28:54] but unfortunately his life was cut short
[1:28:58] at the age of 54. He passed away but I
[1:29:01] had primed him up to work for this and
[1:29:05] he managed to do something about western
[1:29:07] gods. He was trying to work with the
[1:29:10] Himalayas but in the meantime he passed
[1:29:12] away. We need to find somebody who has
[1:29:15] that understanding and in a position of
[1:29:19] power to do that.
[1:29:21] I will definitely put this across to the
[1:29:23] prime minister of India
[1:29:26] and uh in my understanding and opinion
[1:29:30] he's quite a sensible human being. He
[1:29:32] will understand the need for this. You
[1:29:35] put this to your leadership.
[1:29:38] Well, there are some nations who have
[1:29:40] their own mind. They may not listen to
[1:29:42] anything that you say but we could try.
[1:29:47] We could try and we must try.
[1:29:51] Will it happen tomorrow? Will it happen
[1:29:53] after 10 years? Will we wait for more
[1:29:56] disasters to happen? I don't know.
[1:29:59] Unfortunately, I don't know.
[1:30:02] But from my side, where I have
[1:30:05] influence, I will do my best. Where you
[1:30:08] have influence, please all of you do
[1:30:09] your best. Let's see what we can do.
[1:30:13] Thank you very much.
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