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Does a Falling Tree Make a Sound? Reality Is Relational

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Oct 19, 2026
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Reality is neither purely out there nor purely inside your head, according to psychologist Lisa Feldman Barrett, a University Distinguished Professor of Psychology at Northeastern University in Boston. In a short Big Think video, she lays out what she calls relational realism: every moment you live through is assembled in real time from the sensory signals reaching your body and the remembered past your brain uses to interpret them. That remembered past, which she also calls your perception box, is the lens through which each moment arrives. Because every observer carries a different box, reality exists in relation to the person experiencing it, and in relation to everyone sharing the moment with them. The ideas reach from the old philosophical riddle about a falling tree to the ordinary arguments people have at dinner, and Barrett ends on a prescription that has less to do with winning than with staying curious.

The scene she starts with is one most people will recognize. Two people sit in a therapist's office. One says, with feeling, that they are really, really mad. The therapist looks back and says, no, actually, you're really sad. Who is right?

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Is reality objective, subjective, or something else?

Barrett acknowledges the traditional answer. Since humans began talking to one another, she notes, people have assumed an objective reality exists out there, separate from us, and that we perceive it with more or less accuracy. In that framework, the therapist's office has a single correct answer, and one of the two speakers, or both, has missed it.

Barrett rejects both camps. "Reality is not purely objective and it's not purely subjective," she says in the video. "It is relational. There is one reality that is perspective dependent. I experience anger. My therapist is experiencing me as sad. And together, that's the reality of the situation." (Roughly 0:52 into the video.) The anger is real. The sadness the therapist perceives is also real. Neither is a distortion of a hidden fact; both are parts of one situation that exists only with both perspectives in it.

She is also skeptical that the philosophical argument has been framed well. Philosophers, she says, have debated whether reality is out there or in your head for millennia, and she thinks they are "probably asking the wrong question." Her alternative starts from what the brain actually does.

What is the perception box, and how does it shape what you experience?

Barrett's core claim is that everything you do and everything you experience is a combination of two things: the remembered past and the sensory present. The sensory present is the raw input: the signals hitting the retina in each eye, the cochlea in each ear, the receptors in the skin. The remembered past is the stored experience your brain uses to anticipate what those signals mean.

She treats reality as "made up of stable patterns of signals," and she points to the best available evidence that the brain uses past experience to anticipate incoming sensory signals from the world. Under that model, reality is not simply delivered to you. It is predicted, checked against input, and built. That is why the outside world and your interior are not two separate territories. The line between them runs through your own sensory surfaces and your own history.

The perception box is her name for the remembered past in this role. Her phrasing is precise: the box is "the ingredients, the signals that you bring to creating the relational present." Two people walk into the same room with different boxes, and so they build slightly different presents out of identical furniture, voices and light.

Does a tree falling in the forest make a sound?

The old parable asks whether a tree that falls in an empty forest makes a sound. Barrett's answer is a conditional no. A falling tree does set vibrations moving through the air, and a relational realist would say that a set of receptors is needed to detect those vibrations. Yet detection alone is not enough. "In order for it to be a sound of a tree falling, an organism has to know that that's what those sounds mean." (Around 3:18.)

Put plainly: the vibrations are physical, but the sound of a falling tree is a relation. It requires a sensing body, and it requires a brain carrying the meaning that makes a particular pattern of vibration into "tree falling." Remove the organism and the physical event still happens, but the sound, as an experienced reality, does not. The same logic changes the answer for other creatures. Their sensory surfaces are different, so the reality they inhabit is different too.

What do whales reveal about perspective?

Barrett's example is the ocean. There is a great deal of vibration-based noise in the water that humans do not detect and that is not especially relevant to us. Whales do detect those signals. For them, those signals, produced by their own sensory surfaces and brains, are part of reality from their perspective.

The point is not just a curiosity about marine biology. It is a warning about human ignorance. "We interfere with their ability to communicate with each other by our ignorance of their perspective," she says. In other words, an environment is not neutral. When people act as if their own sensory range defines what is real, they can disrupt other creatures' realities without ever noticing. The same blindness, she suggests, applies between people.

Why can't you win an argument by appealing to objective reality?

This is where the theory becomes personal. In an argument, people often reach for the authority of objective reality: I am right because that is simply how things are. If reality is relational, that move is no longer available. Barrett's conclusion is direct. To resolve the conflict, you must accept that someone else's experience has equivalent authority to your own.

She is careful to add that this does not erase your experience. "The idea that somebody else's experience is part of reality as much as yours doesn't invalidate your experience," she says. "It means that your experience is a part of reality, but it's not the only part." There are parts of reality that the two people share, and other parts that each of them alone can access. The therapist's office holds both the anger and the sadness, and neither speaker has the whole picture by themselves.

This reframing shifts the goal of an argument. It is no longer about prevailing over a fact that stands outside both parties. It is about assembling a larger account of the shared situation, which requires each person to admit that their own box is only one of the boxes in play.

How do you expand the reality you have access to?

Barrett's most practical point concerns the company we keep. If you spend time with people who are just like you, who share your reactions and your experiences, you reinforce the remembered past that is easiest for you to conjure. Your box becomes smaller and more predictable, and reality shrinks to match it.

The alternative is curiosity. "If you are curious, if you're foraging for new sets of signals, new meanings, you are very likely to expand the aspects of reality that you have access to," she says. The word "foraging" matters. It frames curiosity as an active search for inputs and interpretations you do not already own, not a passive openness you wait around to feel.

She pairs curiosity with humility, and she ties both to an ethical stance. "The goal there is to be curious and be humble. As a person, I think it's incumbent upon us ... we really ought to experience as many aspects of reality as we can. Otherwise, we're ignorant, and ignorance is not helpful." (Near the close of the video.) Her final line draws the distinction sharply: ignorance, she says, "has nothing to do with objectivity. It has everything to do with being able to experience as much of reality as possible."

That final sentence is the piece's real takeaway. Barrett is not telling viewers that nothing is true. She is telling them that truth, as far as people can reach it, is something built jointly from many boxes, and that the widest reality is available to those willing to look through someone else's.

Where to go from here

Start with the therapist's office. The next time you are certain someone else has misread a situation, ask what signals they are working from and what remembered past shapes their reading. Then ask what your own box might be leaving out. That is the practical move Barrett describes: treat the disagreement as a clue to a larger reality rather than a verdict to be won.

For the full context, Big Think's Perception Box series hub and the complete interview with Barrett, both on bigthink.com, extend the argument beyond this short clip. Read Barrett's own words in the source video before drawing conclusions, and let her framework be a tool for curiosity rather than a new authority to hide behind.

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[0:00] Since humans have been able to talk to each other, they've been debating the

[0:05] nature of reality. So traditionally, people

[0:09] believe that there is an objective reality out there, separate from us,

[0:16] and that we perceive reality with more or

[0:19] less accuracy. So if I'm in the therapist's office, and I'm telling the

[0:25] therapist, well, I am really, really mad.

[0:29] And the therapist looks at me and says, no, actually, you're really sad. Who's

[0:36] right? Well, there are some people

[0:39] who would say one of us is right or we're both wrong because there's some objective

[0:42] reality. But reality is

[0:45] not purely objective and it's not purely subjective. It is relational. There is

[0:52] one reality that is perspective dependent. I

[0:57] experience anger. My therapist is experiencing me as sad. And together,

[1:03] that's the reality of the situation. My name is

[1:06] Lisa Feldman Barrett. I am a university distinguished professor of psychology at

[1:10] Northeastern University in Boston, and I'm here to

[1:13] talk to you today about the nature of reality. You know, a small topic, the

[1:19] nature of reality.

[1:27] Is reality objective, out there, separate from you? Or is reality all in your

[1:34] head? Philosophers have been debating this

[1:38] question for millennia. And I think they're probably asking the wrong

[1:44] question. In reality, everything you do, and every experience

[1:51] that you ever have, is a combination of the remembered past and the sensory

[1:58] present. That is the signals that

[2:01] are hitting your retina in each eye, the cochlea in each ear, the receptors in your

[2:08] skin. The idea is

[2:10] that reality is made up of stable patterns of signals. Our best available

[2:16] evidence for how the brain is using

[2:20] past experience to anticipate sensory signals from the world, it suggests that

[2:27] reality may not be out there in the

[2:30] world, separate from you, and it's definitely not only in your head. It's

[2:36] actually a combination of the two. Which

[2:38] means that reality exists, but it exists in relation to you. Perception box

[2:46] is another way of talking about the

[2:47] remembered past. It's a concept that captures the idea that there is

[2:54] a relationship between what is inside your

[2:58] head and what is outside in the world. What relational realism

[3:05] implies for perception box is that your box is

[3:09] the ingredients, the signals that you bring to creating the relational present.

[3:18] So there's an old parable that people often appeal to when they're talking about

[3:23] the nature of reality. And it

[3:26] it goes something like this:

[3:28] If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it, does it make a sound?

[3:36] A falling tree will cause vibrations in the air. So a relational realist would say

[3:43] there needs to be a

[3:45] set of receptors that detect those vibrations. And in order for it to be a

[3:51] sound of a tree falling, an

[3:53] organism has to know that that's what those sounds mean. So

[4:00] a relational realist would say, if there's no organism

[4:04] there to detect the signals, then no, the tree does not make a sound. There are

[4:09] other signals that are

[4:10] required to translate those vibrations into a sound.

[4:20] Animals have sensory surfaces that we don't have. Reality as it pertains to

[4:27] them, in relation to them, is different

[4:29] than it is for us. So an example would be, there's a lot of vibration-based noise

[4:36] in the ocean that

[4:38] we don't detect and is not really relevant to us. But it turns out that those

[4:45] signals are detected by

[4:48] whales. And those signals are because of the whale's sensory

[4:55] surfaces and the whale's brain are part of reality from

[5:01] their perspective. And we interfere with their ability to communicate with each

[5:07] other by our ignorance of their perspective. And

[5:10] it's not that hard to go from that kind of an idea to our interactions with each

[5:16] other. Often in

[5:18] an argument, you want to appeal to the authority of objective reality to say that

[5:24] you're right. And if reality

[5:26] is relational, you can't do that.

[5:31] In order to resolve the conflict, it means you have to admit the idea that somebody

[5:36] else's experience has equivalent

[5:40] authority to your own.

[5:44] The idea that somebody else's experience is part of reality as much as yours

[5:50] doesn't invalidate your experience. It means

[5:54] that your experience is a part of reality, but it's not the only part.

[6:02] There are parts of reality that we share, and there are parts of reality that each

[6:06] of us has access

[6:07] to that the other doesn't.

[6:11] If you spend time around people who are just like you, who

[6:18] have the same reactions as you, or the

[6:20] same experiences as you, you'll be reinforcing the remembered past that's

[6:26] easy for you to conjure. But if you are

[6:30] curious, if you're foraging for new sets of signals, new meanings,

[6:37] you are very likely to expand the aspects of

[6:43] reality that you have access to. The goal there is to be curious

[6:51] and be humble. As a person, I

[6:53] think it's incumbent upon us -- we really ought to experience as many

[7:00] aspects of reality as we can. Otherwise, we're

[7:04] ignorant, and ignorance is not helpful. It has nothing to do with objectivity. It has

[7:10] everything to do with being

[7:13] able to experience as much of reality as possible.

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Relational realism is Barrett's term for the view that reality is neither purely objective nor purely subjective but is built in real time from sensory signals and the remembered past your brain uses to interpret them. Because each observer brings different signals and memories, reality exists in relation to the person experiencing it and to others sharing the moment. In her therapist's-office example, the anger she feels and the sadness her therapist perceives are both part of one reality.
Barrett uses the perception box as another way of talking about the remembered past, the stored experience your brain brings to each moment. She describes it as the ingredients, or signals, you bring to creating the relational present. Each person's box is different, which is why two people can experience the same moment differently.
Barrett's answer is no, if no organism is there to experience it. A falling tree creates vibrations in the air, but a sensing body is needed to detect them, and the brain must know that those vibrations mean a falling tree. Without an organism to detect and interpret the signals, the physical event occurs without a sound as an experienced reality.
If reality is relational, then appealing to a single objective truth no longer settles the dispute. Barrett argues that resolving a conflict requires admitting that someone else's experience has equivalent authority to your own. Her point is that your experience is part of reality but not the only part.
Barrett suggests spending time with people who differ from you, since being around people just like you reinforces the remembered past that is easiest to conjure. She recommends curiosity, actively foraging for new signals and meanings, paired with humility. She says these habits are likely to expand the aspects of reality you can access.
No. In the video, Barrett says that being ignorant of reality has nothing to do with objectivity and everything to do with being able to experience as much of reality as possible. Her position is that reality is relational, not that nothing is true, and that fuller understanding comes from integrating many perspectives.
Barrett points to whales, which detect vibration-based signals in the ocean that humans do not notice and that are not especially relevant to us. Because of their sensory surfaces and brains, those signals are part of reality from the whale's perspective. She argues that human ignorance of such perspectives can interfere with animals' communication.

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