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[0:00] My father forced me to think, you
know, when there was problems to be
[0:05] solved, he would say, fix it or else.
[0:09] And that meant beg, borrow, steal, go to a
library, use a phone book, do whatever you
[0:15] gotta do, but you better fucking figure it
out 'cause it's gonna hurt if you don't.
[0:18] So I learned to think on
my feet and move quick.
[0:22] I was also, I started boxing at 12
because I hated my father so much.
[0:26] I knew I was gonna have to
defend myself and might even
[0:29] have to save somebody's life.
[0:32] So I got into martial arts and
boxing at 12 and that later
[0:36] became very important in my life.
[0:38] 'cause that's what ultimately led to me
becoming a holistic health practitioner.
[0:42] And that's what how my career got started.
[0:44] That was Paul Check and you are
listening to the Regenerative Journey.
[0:51] Good day.
[0:51] I'm your host, Charlie
Arnett, an eighth generational
[0:54] Australian regenerative farmer.
[0:56] And in this podcast series, I'll be
diving deep and exploring my guests
[0:59] unique perspectives on the world so
you can apply their experience and
[1:03] knowledge to cultivate your own transition
to a more regenerative way of life.
[1:14] Welcome to the Regenerative Journey
with your host, Charlie Arnet.
[1:31] G Day.
[1:31] Welcome back to the Regenerative Journey.
[1:32] Welcome to this episode with Paul
Check, uh, big shout out to, uh,
[1:38] Perry Smith for lining up this
interview, um, with his network.
[1:42] Um, I'd heard about Paul
Check some years ago.
[1:47] I have to say, it was one of the most
interesting interviews I have ever done,
[1:52] um, in listening to Paul's work, getting
a sense of the enigma that he is, the,
[1:57] the amount of information that man stores
in his head, the experience he has in
[2:02] applying that, the way he can bring
together so many different modalities.
[2:06] Um, anything from Steiner's work to,
um, uh, remote viewing, to you name it.
[2:14] Paul seems to have, um, uh, experience
with, or a really profound understanding
[2:20] of anything that we might put under
the, you know, the, the, the reasonably
[2:23] vague umbrella of, of spirituality.
[2:27] Um, but not just spirituality.
[2:29] Also, um, mentality, you
know, just, just intellect.
[2:33] And also as importantly the physical.
[2:35] He's a, he's so much experience in the
brain, body, gut, mind, connection.
[2:43] Um, it's fascinating.
[2:44] So I interviewed Paul, uh, the
morning after we'd actually
[2:47] arrived in LA in July last year.
[2:50] Drive three hours south through
this beautiful little farm down
[2:52] there, um, up in the hills and
with his fam beautiful family.
[2:57] Um, they've got fruit, trees, orchard,
uh, pigs, goats, the whole thing.
[3:02] It's such a wonderful sanctuary.
[3:04] And again, you know, I turned up there
and Paul had not met me before and
[3:08] didn't know anything about me really.
[3:09] But he was very, very, um, very willing
and I'm very grateful that Paul was
[3:14] able to spend as much time as he did.
[3:16] So we actually did it over two sessions.
[3:17] We did it the morning.
[3:19] Uh, first morning there in, in the States.
[3:21] And then, uh, the last day we
had at the other end of the
[3:25] month in July, I drove back down
there to actually interview Paul.
[3:29] Um, but we ended, ended up deciding
we'd finished the interview.
[3:32] I, I I, I started the month before.
[3:35] Um, and I'll catch up with Paul,
um, another time, um, for mine.
[3:38] And, and so again, very
grateful for his time.
[3:42] Um, Angie, who showed me around
the vegetable garden of the
[3:45] whole, the whole farm really.
[3:47] It's just mind blowing.
[3:48] Um, and then I did some work
with her, uh, some soul retrieval
[3:51] work, which is fascinating.
[3:53] Just check out, um, Angie
check, um, online for her soul
[3:57] retrieval work is, it's amazing.
[3:59] We did a virtual one.
[4:00] I was back in Australia
probably in August, the
[4:02] following year, September maybe.
[4:04] And she took me through a
process of soul retrieval.
[4:06] It was, it was beautiful.
[4:07] Um, and also Penny.
[4:09] Penny who's the bit of a, you
know, the powerhouse behind, um,
[4:13] Paul's, um, I guess the tech.
[4:15] He uses his podcast and, um, does
all the stuff behind the scenes.
[4:21] Um, she's fantastic.
[4:22] We've been in touch with Penny
since about helping us with our.
[4:25] Podcast was earlier this year.
[4:27] Um, absolute font of information,
so helpful in helping me, who's
[4:30] fucking bit a bit of a noie with,
um, tech sometimes we got there.
[4:35] Couldn't get it under the wifi, couldn't
connect to this, couldn't connect to that.
[4:38] She just had pulled cords outta
nowhere and plugged it all in.
[4:41] Uh, didn't stop me from
running outta batteries though.
[4:44] But yeah, we got through, it was
in two sessions, um, in Paul's
[4:47] studio or next door to his studio
and his library essentially.
[4:51] Um, I'm still, you know, mind
blowing from the, um, from the
[4:58] information that, that Paul, he
had, he had an answer for everything
[5:01] and not in a smart ass way at all.
[5:02] He just, again, the way he can
bring all this beautiful information
[5:06] together into a very, very
approachable, very understandable way.
[5:11] It's a real, it's a real art and real
credit to Paul the way he can do that.
[5:14] Um, there was something else.
[5:17] Oh, spirit Jim.
[5:18] Actually, I think it was the day before.
[5:20] The interview.
[5:20] He just launched Spirit Gym.
[5:22] So that's, that was, it's not so much
now 'cause it's good 12 months or more.
[5:26] Um, old, his new platform for getting it,
for I guess education and, and development
[5:32] and Paul engaging with his, his wonderful
community, which gets bigger and bigger.
[5:36] We also did this really cool
thing when I was leaving on that
[5:38] second day I was down there.
[5:39] Um, I did a video of Paul
with his water purifying,
[5:44] energizing organizing structure.
[5:47] He is built, which is
basically a, a a a stone dome.
[5:50] He's put together all sorts of
different types of, um, rock volcanic,
[5:55] um, uh, crystal, all sorts of things.
[5:57] And essentially what that does is
it, it organizes, um, uh, the water
[6:03] and purifies it, it's incredible.
[6:04] Drank some, took bottles at home.
[6:06] Bottles of at home.
[6:07] And fascinating to hear Paul's
journey into that realm.
[6:12] I mean, there's just so many
different tangents we went down.
[6:15] Um, but Paul, thank you very
much, Angie, penny and family.
[6:19] Um, just an honor and privilege to
be sitting with you guys for so long.
[6:23] Um, thank you for being patient with
me with my tech issues and just timing
[6:27] of it all, and I really hope you all,
all you wonderful listeners out there.
[6:31] Enjoy this interview.
[6:32] Fascinating interview, uh, with Paul.
[6:35] Check for the regenerative journey.
[6:42] Paul, check, welcome to the Regenerative
Journey and welcome to your.
[6:48] Office, your podcast room.
[6:49] This is, no, your office is next door.
[6:50] This is actually your, well,
[6:51] this is all, it's
[6:52] your library.
[6:53] This is what I would
[6:53] call
[6:54] part of my office.
[6:55] That's just a little bit of it.
[6:57] Um, it's your art studio.
[6:59] Yeah.
[7:00] It's your podcasting
[7:01] podcast table right here.
[7:03] You're, you're sitting where
many amazing people have sat.
[7:06] I know.
[7:06] Hopefully, well, who knows?
[7:08] Who knows how this, this, this,
um, uh, lovely to be here.
[7:13] Thank you.
[7:13] I got here that we flew in,
uh, last this afternoon.
[7:16] Drove here this morning, sat in a
little diner just down the road there.
[7:20] Yeah.
[7:21] Had my bot, my first bottomless cup of
coffee in America, just to get me through.
[7:26] Given a very rough night last night.
[7:27] Yeah.
[7:28] Um, Paul, and thank you
so much for your time.
[7:30] Appreciate Oh, my pleasure.
[7:31] Appreciate.
[7:31] Thank
[7:32] you.
[7:32] Glad to share.
[7:33] As you said, you've been
doing this for 40 years.
[7:35] You've done countless number of podcasts.
[7:36] Yes.
[7:37] So I appreciate the fact that,
um, you, you, you're willing to
[7:40] put, um, put some time into me.
[7:42] Well, I, I, I personally, you
know, when Penny told me you
[7:45] were a farmer, I'm like, cool.
[7:47] 'cause I, I think farmers are the most
underappreciated, most important people
[7:52] on the planet next to school teachers.
[7:54] And we need to rehabilitate a
lot of both, you know, but our
[7:59] future depends on the farmers.
[8:00] And I think they need to be made
national heroes in every country.
[8:03] If, if they're doing organic and
biodynamic and regenerative farming,
[8:07] otherwise they're killing the planet.
[8:09] But, and I think we gotta wrap our arms
around the Waldorf School teachers.
[8:13] The Montessori school teachers.
[8:16] And re re rehabilitate the education
system because farming and education
[8:20] is the basis of our children's future.
[8:23] And without healthy kids,
you're, you're screwed.
[8:26] You, you got no tomorrow.
[8:28] Well, they are our future as they say.
[8:30] It's a cliche, but for a reason
though, cliches a you know,
[8:34] sometimes well, well used expressions.
[8:36] True is true.
[8:37] Whether, no matter how it
comes from poetry to prose.
[8:42] And why here, Paul, you gave me a
bit of a heads up there before when
[8:46] I arrived in terms of, you know, some
financial imperatives to be here.
[8:50] Um, it feels, it feels amazing.
[8:53] You, you, you, you said you took a
couple of years to kind of settle on.
[8:56] It
[8:56] took us five years to find
what we were looking for.
[8:59] Every place that had what we needed
space wise, building wise, resource
[9:06] wise, um, was so far out of town.
[9:09] There was no internet.
[9:10] We run our whole business
worldwide on the internet.
[9:14] So this was the first place
that we could barely afford.
[9:19] It was like pushing us to the
limit, but we, we realized this
[9:22] is exactly what we were after.
[9:25] And it's where we want our kids to be.
[9:27] You know, we wanted to have our own
farm and we wanted to have a pond
[9:33] stocked with fish, which we have.
[9:35] We wanted our own water
source, which we put in.
[9:40] We wanted enough space to, you
know, live and breathe and not have
[9:45] neighbors looking through our windows.
[9:47] And, and we wanted to, uh,
have a big gym and a classroom
[9:54] and a guest suite for people.
[9:56] 'cause people come to see me from all
over the world for various healing and
[10:02] life coaching and things like that.
[10:04] And we wanted a swimming pool
'cause it's hot out here and,
[10:08] uh, a sauna and a cold plunge.
[10:10] So we, whatever we didn't have, we put in.
[10:14] So we're right on and
we're on top of a mountain.
[10:16] We wanted beautiful views and
we got gorgeous views here.
[10:20] So knowing what we wanted it,
it narrowed it down a lot.
[10:24] You know, to find a place, 10 to 14
acres that has all that in one place.
[10:29] We've got 15,000 square foot of buildings
here between the guest house, the gym,
[10:35] the classroom, and the main house.
[10:38] So to, to find all that in one spot
in a configuration that actually
[10:41] works, it's quite hard to do.
[10:43] So five years later, like I was
sharing with you, when we first
[10:47] saw this place in our first year
of looking, it was $4 million.
[10:50] And we just, that was, you know, I'm
60, I'll be 63 in August, so I didn't
[10:56] wanna have to keep working my ass
off just to pay bills all the time.
[11:00] So I said to the girls, we gotta find
something that allows me, you know,
[11:05] to not feel like I got a fricking
elephant on my back every day.
[11:09] Mm-hmm.
[11:11] So by the time we sold our house,
Angie sold her house and we kind
[11:17] of pulled our money together
and I think we put 500,000 down.
[11:22] We ended up getting this place so
that our mortgage payment on this
[11:26] property is actually no more than
our three quarter acre, 2300 square
[11:30] foot house that we had in Vista.
[11:33] Now the maintenance to run this place
is, you know, more than most people
[11:37] pay for a mortgage on a big house.
[11:39] But we, it's still about the same as
what we were paying, except we own it
[11:44] and we can do what we want with it.
[11:46] And it's, you know, beautiful out here.
[11:49] And the water.
[11:50] Tell me about that.
[11:50] Do, because I, not just
the fact that it's amazing.
[11:54] Um, you, you sunk a well
when you got here, it's, it's
[11:58] straight out of the mountain.
[11:59] Yeah.
[12:00] But you do some pretty
cool stuff with it too.
[12:02] Well, what I do is I build
water chargers, which I've been
[12:06] doing for, since about 2006.
[12:09] My soul guided me, interestingly, out
of the blue, I bought a pile of rocks
[12:15] from a guy that had done a bunch of
land clearing and blasted the side of
[12:19] a mountain out to extend his orchard.
[12:22] And build a huge workshop.
[12:24] So he gave me a great deal on one
of these huge semi-truck load of
[12:28] boulders and you know, chunks of rock.
[12:31] And then I bought more
from a landscape supplier.
[12:34] 'cause I love creating things outta
stone, be they patterns on the ground or
[12:39] rock stacks or just, you know, whatever.
[12:42] And so my soul just one day said to
me, I'm gonna teach you how to build
[12:47] a water charger so you can structure
your water and make it a lot healthier
[12:50] for your body and for your family.
[12:53] And so I just went step by step and
I'll never forget the first time
[12:57] I tried it, I put a five gallon
glass bottle of water in there.
[13:01] 'cause I was drinking the
same Palomar mountain water.
[13:04] So I was very used to it as it came
from the distributor from the mountain.
[13:09] And when I pulled it out and tried
it, it was close to a full moon.
[13:14] And the energy in the water was
so high it shocked me because
[13:18] it was literally bubbling on my
tongue, like carbonated water.
[13:21] I'm like, how in the
world could that happen?
[13:25] And so I understand stones, but it
was just such a shock to me that it
[13:30] worked so well and it changed the
water so much from already good water
[13:35] to just mind blowingly good water.
[13:38] And then I began tracking it.
[13:40] And what I did is I even took tap
water, just standard tap water,
[13:44] and I took some plastic bottles of
water, like various brands of water.
[13:50] And I would do a comparison where I'd
put one in the charger and one out
[13:53] like a bottle of uncharged tap water on
the side and then one in the charger.
[14:00] And I would see what it would
do to these different waters.
[14:03] And it was just wild.
[14:04] But one of the crazy experiences that
I had in the beginning, which was
[14:08] quite shocking to me, I began noticing
that each time I would take the water
[14:14] out and taste it and it's in glass
bottle, like, you know, you five
[14:18] gallon glass bottles with thick glass.
[14:21] And sometimes I would taste what
tasted like nickel in it, and other
[14:25] times I would taste copper and other
times it would taste like dirt.
[14:29] Like I was just drinking dirt water.
[14:32] And I'm like, how in the world is
these metal flavors and these earth
[14:37] flavors coming through a glass bottle?
[14:40] And so it was quite perplexing.
[14:42] So I said, and, and I was asking this
question one night, 'cause I was out at
[14:47] night taking it out when it was dark.
[14:50] And uh, I just happened to take
some out of the bottle and taste it.
[14:57] And I said to my soul, what
in the world is going on?
[15:00] How is this happening?
[15:01] 'cause there's no way that this can
be penetrating the glass bottle.
[15:05] And my soul turned my head and
the moon was shining right on me.
[15:10] And I said, oh my God, it's the moon.
[15:12] And my soul said, yes, it's
the effects of the moon.
[15:15] Because the moon's resonating with
the different minerals of the soil
[15:18] at different stages of the moon.
[15:20] So it's imprinting the energetic signature
of the materials in the soil, whether it
[15:25] be the metals or the, or the earth itself.
[15:29] And I started tracking it.
[15:30] I bought a moon calendar and so I
began specifically tasting it and
[15:35] recording the results and correlating
it to what phase of the moon I was in.
[15:41] And I was just blown away at how
powerful the effect of the moon was
[15:45] working through these stones into the
water and how the different stages of
[15:50] the moon creates a different resonance,
which resonates with different
[15:54] minerals and metals in the earth.
[15:57] And the bottles are course
sitting right on the earth.
[16:00] And there's a bit of a
science to the construction.
[16:03] But basically in, in a simple way
to put it, I would couple what
[16:09] I would call a very yin stone.
[16:10] So what I did is I bought a
bunch of black Hawaiian lava.
[16:13] 'cause it's very, very black and very yin.
[16:17] Is that, is it high in iron?
[16:18] What is,
[16:19] no, it's not that.
[16:20] It's really the fact
that it's a black stone.
[16:24] So because it's black and because of
the construction of the minerals in
[16:27] it, yin, anything that's yin draws
energy into its center and swells.
[16:34] So when a woman gets pregnant, the
sperm meets the egg, and then inside of
[16:39] her body you go through cell mitosis.
[16:43] And each cell doubles.
[16:44] So one becomes two, two becomes
four, four becomes 8, 8, 16, 16, 32.
[16:50] That happens 56 times.
[16:51] And you got a whole human body.
[16:53] So you're seeing that the woman's uterus
is swelling from a central point outward.
[17:00] If you put a sponge in water, it
draws water into itself and swells.
[17:05] That's yin energy.
[17:07] Okay, so a yin stone acts like
a sponge, and it sucks light.
[17:12] It sucks energy, it sucks
environmental energies into it, but
[17:18] it saturates and just like a sponge
will drip when it's oversaturated.
[17:22] So I couple that with a very yang
stone, and I went and bought a bunch
[17:26] of Mexican crystals, which if you
polish them up, would look like a
[17:30] crystal you'd wear on your neck.
[17:32] But because they came right out of
the ground, they were a lot cheaper.
[17:35] And I got some of them that
are, you know, 300 pounds.
[17:37] So a lot of these stones in my
charger, 350, 300 plus pounds.
[17:42] And so I built a foundation where
I go one black lava or other
[17:48] type of stone that's very yin.
[17:50] It pulls energy in coupled
with a yang, a crystal.
[17:54] And I have several different types
of crystals, like ora verity,
[17:57] which is a green crystal, which
harmonizes with the heart chakra.
[18:01] And so I would set these things up
and I got the idea from my studies
[18:06] of anatomy, the nodes of Ranvir.
[18:09] Function very much like that,
where you get a positive negative
[18:12] polarity shift and that causes
energy to travel along a nerve.
[18:16] So I just was asking my soul,
would you want me to do this?
[18:20] Would this work?
[18:20] And I had the idea based on how the
nervous system works, and I know
[18:25] 'cause I've studied stones and, and
stone formations for many, many years.
[18:30] I got piles of books on it.
[18:31] And I studied Philip Callahan's
work and Victor Berger's work, and
[18:36] Arden Anderson's work and many of
the native tribal, uh, information
[18:41] on how they used water and stones.
[18:43] So I'd already had enough knowledge
to know kind of what I was working
[18:46] with, but because crystals are pizo
electric, what happens when you start
[18:52] stacking stones on top of each other,
the weight is pressing on the crystal.
[18:55] So it produces an electric
charge, a pizo electric charge.
[19:00] And so by the time you get a, you know,
a couple of tons of these things stacked
[19:03] on top of each other, when the sunlight
hits it, then it gets sucked into the yin
[19:09] stones and pushed into the yang stones.
[19:12] So you get a pull, push, pull, push.
[19:14] So it actually acts like a generator.
[19:16] And because it's built into a circle that
progressively goes to a cone at the top,
[19:22] then you'll see on the charger, I built
an antenna on the top out of pure crystal.
[19:26] So the top of it's highly,
positively charged.
[19:29] The earth is strongly negatively charged.
[19:32] So that sets up the polarity differential.
[19:34] Then you have a positive negative
polarity alternating through the stones.
[19:38] And because they're in a circle, you
have a circuit on top of a circuit on
[19:42] top of a circuit that goes from a large
base with big stones to progressively
[19:47] smaller stones that are very negative on
the ground to very positive at the top.
[19:53] So you got a differential between the
ground and the top of the charger,
[19:56] and you got a differential between
the stones and the levels because
[19:59] each level comes in slightly.
[20:01] So you've got a different
type of resonance.
[20:04] So if you think of every stone
like a music, like a musician in
[20:08] an orchestra, each stone affects
the water in a unique way.
[20:13] If I change any stone, it
changes the effects on the water.
[20:16] So what I do used to do, for example,
if I was working with someone who had
[20:19] something like leukemia, I would put a
bunch of bloodstone into the charger and
[20:24] would imprint the water with the energy
of a bloodstone, which is excellent
[20:28] for any kind of blood basic disease.
[20:31] If I had somebody, for example, that
had cognitive difficulties, I could
[20:34] put, uh, amethyst or anything that
helps resonate with the brain better
[20:39] and that would affect the water.
[20:42] So I custom built the whole water
charger, just letting my soul guide me,
[20:47] and I bought $10,000 worth of stones
additional to probably, oh god, you know,
[20:56] about 500 stones are in the charger.
[20:59] So the first.
[21:00] 250 were stones that I had collected
from around the property that I'd already
[21:04] collected from my other properties.
[21:05] And I had 'em shipped over here.
[21:07] It took me three months to build it
because it's such hard manual labor.
[21:12] 'cause I have to hold these big
stones by hand while my gardener and
[21:16] handyman spreads the mud, the cement.
[21:20] Because if you just drop the
stone, it'll just slide off.
[21:22] 'cause the mud acts like a lubricant.
[21:24] So I had to handhold each of these things.
[21:26] And sometimes I'd have to sit there
for two or three minutes till the
[21:29] cement would set up enough that when I
let go of the stone, it wouldn't just
[21:32] fall down and I have to build it on
a slight angle so that it cones up.
[21:38] Yeah.
[21:38] So I could only do about 90 minutes
before I was physically just exhausted
[21:44] and I didn't go to the gym for three
months every day I just went out and
[21:47] me and Freddy just worked and worked.
[21:49] And we built a beautiful stone floor
inside that's anchored right to the
[21:52] ground and we put drainage underneath
it so that water wouldn't pool up there.
[21:57] 'cause we get heavy rains
here in the wintertime.
[22:00] And so by the time I got to
the top, it's, it's big enough.
[22:03] I can put about 70, probably
75 gallon water bottles.
[22:07] I can get 20 people in there.
[22:09] And I use it as a toning chamber as well.
[22:12] So as the sun and the moon changes, it
affects the energy of the water charger.
[22:18] And because you've got probably, I would
guess, 12 to 15 tons of stone in there.
[22:26] So the crystals in the bottom are
getting a lot of pressure on 'em.
[22:30] And as the environment fluctuates
and the earth goes through its
[22:33] fluctuations, it's causing that.
[22:36] I mean, I can hook you.
[22:37] I'll let you touch it.
[22:38] You'll see it.
[22:38] It feels like a giant heartbeat
going through challenge.
[22:41] And so it's spinning the water
molecules at the molecular level,
[22:46] programming the information, the sun,
the moon, the stars, and the local
[22:50] environment right into the water.
[22:52] So it structures it, but what it does puts
you into a real time resonance with the
[22:57] earth, the sun, the moon, and the stars.
[23:00] I mean, every piece of every photon that's
reaching this water charger from anywhere
[23:05] in the cosmos is going into that water.
[23:08] So you're actually drinking something.
[23:10] That would be the equivalent of being out
in nature and drinking out of a stream.
[23:15] Except now I can take super clean water,
bottle it so I can put it in the house
[23:21] and glass bottles to keep it pure.
[23:23] And I can keep the same charge going into
it that it would be getting out in nature,
[23:28] coming from an artesian well, for example.
[23:31] But I can keep that water
very vital and very alive.
[23:35] And as we were discussing before
the podcast, I can also take water
[23:40] at select phases of the moon.
[23:42] For example, if someone has a lot of
toxicity, I can give them new moon water
[23:47] and new moon water is very, very empty,
so it acts like distilled water, even
[23:51] though it's got lots of minerals in it.
[23:54] When you drink it, it feels like
it's going right through your tongue.
[23:56] It literally feels like it's
penetrating right through your tissues.
[24:00] And full moon water, for example, somebody
who's depressed or has chronic fatigue has
[24:08] so much energy in it from the full moon.
[24:10] It's literally like the opposite polarity.
[24:13] Now, if you gave that water to someone
that was manic or, or um, hyper, it would
[24:21] probably be quite stimulating to them.
[24:25] But interestingly, I have bio geometry
set up throughout the house to basically
[24:32] take all the electromagnetic frequencies
and turn 'em into the frequency called
[24:35] BG three, which is bio geometry green.
[24:38] It's a negative green, which Dr. Kareem
traveled the world to all the major
[24:43] healing sites and famous water sources.
[24:47] And he found that they were all
emitting the same BG three frequency.
[24:51] So he developed technology that can
take any signal of any type from wifi
[24:57] to 5G to electromagnetic pollution
coming through the walls, and it
[25:04] neutralizes it at this BG three frequency.
[25:07] So the interesting thing that happened is
when I started bringing my water inside
[25:12] the house, I noticed that it was much
harder to feel the moon cycles in it.
[25:17] And I talked to him about that.
[25:18] I said, you know, it's
flattening the water out.
[25:20] He said, no, it's not actually flattening
it, it's nesting it inside, he said,
[25:24] so the same frequencies are there, but
they're being nested in a BG three wave.
[25:29] Wow.
[25:29] So now you're not only getting the
benefits of the moon cycle, but
[25:32] you're also getting the healing
benefits of the BG three energy.
[25:36] And the BG three will take any frequency
that's too high and bring it down and any
[25:42] frequency that's too low and bring it up.
[25:44] So it produces this very, very
smooth neutral frequency that's
[25:49] very healing to the body.
[25:51] And people drink city tap water,
[25:55] which is dead water.
[25:56] Mm. You know, it's, it's what it's
classically called bulk water.
[25:59] It's unstructured, it's been sitting for
God knows how long in straight pipes.
[26:03] Um, and, and, and God
knows what's in those
[26:05] pipes.
[26:05] A lot of water, you know, goes
through sewage treatment centers
[26:08] so their people are drinking water.
[26:10] That was somebody else's piss
and shit a couple of days ago.
[26:14] Does it lie?
[26:14] Do that
[26:15] la All the major cities do.
[26:17] Really?
[26:17] Oh hell yeah.
[26:18] Not that I drink tap water.
[26:20] Yeah, no.
[26:20] Yeah.
[26:20] All, almost every major city's got
sewage treatment centers and they take
[26:24] the water, filter it and put it right
back into the city water systems.
[26:28] So you're drinking residues of
everybody's medical drugs and every
[26:31] damn thing going through them.
[26:34] Paul, I have so many
questions just about water.
[26:37] Alright, go for it.
[26:38] No.
[26:38] Well, what, what I want to do is, um.
[26:41] As is the name of my podcast,
the Regenerative Journey?
[26:44] Yeah.
[26:44] It's about your regenerative journey.
[26:46] Sure.
[26:46] Well, well,
[26:47] you can come back.
[26:50] Can we, can we talk about, um, your
camera disappeared, just so you know.
[26:54] Yeah, no, thank you.
[26:55] It does that.
[26:57] Um, just because just time's out.
[27:01] I'll have to sort that out.
[27:02] Um, it's still running though, Paul.
[27:05] Let's get to your life because Yeah.
[27:07] What what what I find fascinating about,
well, my guess is their life and the,
[27:11] the, their, their journey, their, um, the
highs, their lows, the challenges, and
[27:17] which are always, that's a long story.
[27:19] I know.
[27:20] Well, that's it.
[27:20] And we've only got limited time.
[27:21] I understand.
[27:22] So we might have to pick it up at
some other time and some other place.
[27:24] But can we, can we, can we just go back
to, um, let's cover as much as we can.
[27:31] Yeah.
[27:32] You just, the time we have.
[27:32] Tell me, and then if, if we go on, on a,
if we depart your journey and head into
[27:36] a direction, that's absolutely fine.
[27:38] 'cause given your background and your,
your vast knowledge and just looking
[27:42] at your library back here, it's just,
um, uh, there's so much that I'd love
[27:47] to ask you, but let's start day one.
[27:51] Where did Paul check turn up in the world?
[27:53] I was born in Los Angeles, August
the 24th, 1961 at 6:05 AM and, uh,
[28:01] born in the same hospital my father
was, and I think my grandfather too.
[28:06] And, um, my mother had me
when she just turned 16.
[28:12] Um, my father was a competitive dancer
and a a, a professional drag racer,
[28:19] and he ended up running away with
dance partners and leaving my mom.
[28:25] And so by the time my mother
was 18, she had three kids and
[28:29] he took off and left her and my
father drowned when I was eight.
[28:34] And my mother remarried to a man that
used to be a, a special and work in
[28:39] the special effects department for the
Hollywood, uh, for Universal Studios.
[28:45] And he had a degree in agriculture.
[28:47] So my parents decided they wanted
to leave LA and we moved to Idaho.
[28:52] We had a pig farm for three years.
[28:55] Then they decided they wanted to
immigrate to Canada and specialize
[28:59] in the production of black wool.
[29:02] So my father began selectively buying
Rams and UES that were known to produce
[29:08] Black offspring because as a huge woolen
trade amongst the HA Indians for the
[29:15] tourist industry on Vancouver Island.
[29:18] So my parents went through what was
called the homesteading program.
[29:21] They applied to be landed immigrants.
[29:23] They got accepted.
[29:25] We moved from Fruitland, Idaho.
[29:28] To Cottage Grove, Oregon, where we
had a sheep farm for a little, I
[29:32] don't know, maybe six months or so.
[29:33] And my father continued selectively
buying Rams and ues that had a high
[29:39] incidence of producing black offspring.
[29:42] And we immigrated to Canada with
a whole cattle truck full of
[29:45] these carefully selected animals.
[29:47] And my parents bought 142 acre farm on
Vancouver Island in the middle of the
[29:53] island in Courtney, British Columbia.
[29:56] And we raised sheep.
[30:00] My father bought a woolen mill
and we filled an entire large
[30:04] barn with a woolen factory.
[30:07] Uh, so we had round a hundred to 120 sheep
at different times at any given time.
[30:13] We had horses, pigs, chickens, cows.
[30:16] We milked our own cows, goats.
[30:18] We raised and sold produce.
[30:20] We sold firewood.
[30:22] So we had a fully
functional, we had horses.
[30:25] I rode in the rodeo as a kid.
[30:27] I raced motocross when I was
young and was sponsored by Honda.
[30:31] I raced stock cars, I drag raced.
[30:35] Um, I, I was, became a
father when I just turned 18.
[30:39] I left school when I was, I I did
about a month of the 10th grade and
[30:43] couldn't take it anymore 'cause they
would never answer my questions.
[30:45] So I like, what the fuck,
why get, why bother?
[30:48] And then I, and I became a father.
[30:50] So I had to go out into the work world.
[30:53] Uh, so.
[30:54] I took my knowledge of being on the
farm and, and you know, my father
[30:58] was just a slave driver of a man.
[31:01] He had no concept of a child.
[31:02] So from the time I could reach the
pedals on the tractor when I was eight
[31:05] years old, we all were task with adult
responsibilities and, and, you know,
[31:10] so it was like a lot of hard work.
[31:12] Was that a happy talk?
[31:14] No, no.
[31:15] My father was unfortunately a very,
very violent man and a lot of trauma.
[31:20] My brother committed suicide and, um,
yeah, not a pretty picture at all.
[31:26] Um, put me into a, quite a cri, all of us
were in a survival crisis a lot, a lot of
[31:32] PTSD would, would be the way to put it.
[31:34] But I learned a lot and he made me tough.
[31:38] Um,
[31:40] what, what did, what were some of
the lessons that, or, or I guess
[31:43] it was a survival lessons, was it
[31:45] it was just, yeah, like there
was just no concept of a child.
[31:49] I mean, my dad's rule was the
animals eat before you eat.
[31:53] And if you ever got caught forgetting
or not feeding or watering animals
[31:57] or doing your chores, you would
get the shit beat outta you.
[32:01] And there was hospital visits involved
and broken bones and, um, things
[32:09] that I won't even say 'cause it
would hurt people even to hear them.
[32:12] It was like being in
a prison camp, really.
[32:15] But, um,
[32:18] you know, I learned how to work hard.
[32:20] My father.
[32:22] Forced me to think, you know, when there
was problems to be solved, he would
[32:26] say, fix it or else, and that meant beg,
borrow, steal, go to a library, use a
[32:34] phone book, do whatever you gotta do,
but you better fucking figure it out
[32:37] 'cause it's gonna hurt if you don't.
[32:38] So I learned to think on
my feet and move quick.
[32:42] And I was also, I started boxing at
12 because I hated my father so much.
[32:48] I knew I was gonna have to
defend myself and might even
[32:51] have to save somebody's life.
[32:53] So I got into martial arts and
boxing at 12 and that later
[32:58] became very important and my life.
[33:00] 'cause that's what ultimately led to me
becoming a holistic health practitioner.
[33:03] And that's what, how
my career got started.
[33:07] So when I left home at 16, I
went to work full-time, did
[33:12] all sorts of different jobs.
[33:14] Um, you know, Paul Jr. Came
when I had just turned 18.
[33:20] Um, but then there was a crisis
of a lack of work on Vancouver
[33:25] Island due to an economic downturn.
[33:27] The unemployment rates were like
approaching, like, I think they were
[33:31] 18% and the logging camps had all shut
down, which was the main industry.
[33:36] And I worked in the logging industry
and the, uh, water well and exploration
[33:40] drilling industry at the time.
[33:43] But, uh.
[33:46] What happened was the Japanese
had been buying up massive amounts
[33:49] of wood from, from the logging
companies on Vancouver Island.
[33:54] And what we didn't know is that they were
saving it and they had such more efficient
[33:59] milling systems that they could mill that
wood and sail it back at way less cost.
[34:06] So all of a sudden, the entire
lumber market was flooded with
[34:09] all this Japanese lumber that was
excellent quality, but way cheaper.
[34:14] So nobody was buying lumber anymore.
[34:16] So the whole logging industry
went into a complete collapse,
[34:19] which then took everything with it
because that was the main industry.
[34:23] So being an American citizen, I said,
well, I gotta, I gotta do something.
[34:27] I can't starve, I gotta feed my family.
[34:31] Um, and I had a friend who had
left to Florida and got work on a
[34:36] fishing boat, and I just, out of
the blue said, I gotta call him and
[34:40] see if there's any work done there.
[34:41] He said, Paul, you could get to
work down here and no problem.
[34:43] So I sold my race car, sold my spare
engine, sold $30,000 worth of tools and
[34:51] stuff I'd collected in my racing and
mechanic career, and took everything
[34:56] and got a job in two hours working
on a, a, a fishing boat in Florida.
[35:03] And then moved my family to uh,
uh, the marathon to Marathon in
[35:10] Florida and the Florida Keys.
[35:13] The fishing industry
turned out to be a rip off.
[35:15] The, the way they run it there
is they just screw the hand.
[35:18] So I found after the first six
months, I was basically working
[35:21] for $2 and 50 cents an hour.
[35:24] I'm like, this is bullshit.
[35:25] And it's hard fucking work.
[35:27] So, and I went to work as
a marine mechanic because I
[35:30] was trained as a mechanic.
[35:31] I went to trade school when I was young
in Canada 'cause they had a program
[35:35] that you could get government support.
[35:36] So when I was 18, I went through trade
school to be, uh, to get my certificate
[35:41] in automotive and industrial repair.
[35:43] So I had all these skills as a mechanic.
[35:45] Plus I was racing cars and
motorcycles when I was young.
[35:48] So I knew a lot about mechanical work.
[35:52] And so I went to work.
[35:53] Fortunately the, there was a great big,
huge marina right next to, I bought a
[35:57] trailer there in a trailer park, like
a 35 foot trailer when I moved there.
[36:02] And so I literally walked across the
street, I mean, right across the fence.
[36:05] And I worked for the sky who owned this
huge marina called Bonefish Harbor Marina.
[36:11] But I got so sick of working in the bilges
of boats, just the smell of rotten fish
[36:15] and hot and sweaty in the Florida keys
and engines running in tight spaces.
[36:20] I like, I can't fucking do
this, I gotta get outta here.
[36:23] And the guy that owned the marina
was a fighter pilot in Vietnam.
[36:27] And one day I got a card in the
mail that said, uncle Sam wants you,
[36:30] and it was an invitation to go take
the testing to enter the military.
[36:34] So I went to him and said,
what do you think of this?
[36:37] And he said, Paul, the secret is, see
how you do on your entrance exams.
[36:41] Then ask them what is the school
that would be the longest that costs
[36:45] the government the most to pay for?
[36:48] Because that will determine how
much you're worth when you get out.
[36:52] So that's exactly what I did.
[36:53] I, I could only qualify to go
in the Army 'cause I didn't
[36:56] have a high school diploma.
[36:57] They were the only one that would take me.
[36:59] And I scored so high
on the entrance exams.
[37:02] They said If you go to school for
two years and get an associate's
[37:05] degree, we will train you as a pilot.
[37:07] And I said, I'm not fucking
gonna go to school for two years.
[37:10] I hate school.
[37:11] What's the best job you can give me that
costs you the most money to train me?
[37:16] And it turned out to be what's called
a 68 J one P, which is a year of
[37:20] electronic school to learn how to repair
weapon systems on Cobra helicopters.
[37:24] Then you're trained as the
co-pilot, as the gunner.
[37:26] So if the co-pilot gets killed, you
have to go run the weapon systems 'cause
[37:30] you're the expert on weapon systems.
[37:32] So I joined the military, went
through all the basic training, went
[37:37] to school for a year in electronics.
[37:40] Then I went to my training to be a
paratrooper and my battle plan was
[37:44] if I don't like electronics, 'cause
I'd already done a fair bit of
[37:49] electronics work and I knew it wasn't
my favorite thing 'cause I worked
[37:52] on car electronics and various other
systems, homes and everything like that.
[37:56] But I knew.
[37:57] When I went in, I said to the recruiter,
what do people get paid when they
[38:01] leave the Army with this training?
[38:04] And that was 83 when I went in.
[38:06] He said, right now Bell Helicopter is
hiring from the United States military
[38:09] and paying them 89,000 years starting pay.
[38:13] Well that's about
180,000 a year right now.
[38:16] Um, so I said, I'm gonna do it then.
[38:18] 'cause I wanted to have a good future.
[38:20] My parents always had money problems.
[38:22] So I just, like, I did not want my
life to be limited by money problems.
[38:25] So I made a promise to myself.
[38:26] I would do whatever I had to do to make
enough money that it wasn't the problem.
[38:30] So I could live the way I wanted to live
and have the toys I wanted to have and
[38:34] let my kids have a, you know, a life that
wasn't like, you know, like I grew up, we
[38:40] could only wash our clothes once a week.
[38:42] We, we, you know, my friends used to
laugh at me 'cause I always came to
[38:46] school with cow shit on my pants and,
you know, we, we had water problems
[38:50] because the neighbor drilled the well
and we, we couldn't get water 'cause
[38:53] they sucked our, well, it was just so we
could only wash clothes once in a while.
[38:58] Parents didn't have a lot of money,
they just barely were making it by,
[39:01] with the farm and everything else.
[39:04] And so I said, I'm going for it.
[39:07] But I knew inside of myself
I may not like electronics.
[39:12] So I said, I gotta come up with plan B.
And as a kid I used to watch Wide World of
[39:16] Sports and I used to see the Army boxing
team fighting on wide world of sports.
[39:22] And I said, aha.
[39:25] They're centered in Fort
Bragg, North Carolina.
[39:27] So I said to the recruiter, what
do I have to do to get to Fort
[39:31] Bragg, North Carolina in case I
want to join the army boxing team?
[39:35] Thank you.
[39:36] And he said, you gotta
become a paratrooper.
[39:38] I said, no problem.
[39:39] And my stepfather was a smoke
jumper in the fire department.
[39:42] So I already kind of had a sense
of what parachuting was all about.
[39:46] And so I did.
[39:47] I ended up at 82nd Airborne Division,
and sure enough, I hated the electronics
[39:52] work because once I graduated from school
at the top of my frigging class with a
[39:55] 97 point something grade average, after
40 some odd tests, once you get to your
[40:02] unit, they only let you do things by rank.
[40:05] And so all I got to do was
take access panels off.
[40:08] So I spent a year learning how to work
on every part of this helicopter, and
[40:11] now I'm the low man on the totem pole.
[40:13] So I'm a Philip Screwdriver technician,
and I'm a guy that can build fucking
[40:17] race cars from the ground up.
[40:19] I'm like, I can't handle this.
[40:20] And they hardly ever exercised.
[40:23] And I'm like, I gotta get outta here.
[40:24] So long story made short, the only
way you can get on the army boxing
[40:28] team, which at that time was the third
ranked boxing amateur team in the
[40:31] world, is to beat somebody on the team.
[40:34] So I scheduled a tryout.
[40:37] I went down, I took out one of their
welterweights in the second round, and
[40:41] I became a fighter on the boxing team.
[40:45] And I also represented
the Army in triathlon.
[40:47] So I was fighting on the boxing team while
also representing the Army in triathlon.
[40:51] And I won the Army Triathlon was
the Army's representative in 1986
[40:55] at Hilton Head, South Carolina for
the USTS national Championships.
[41:00] And then my company commander said, Paul,
I'm betting a lot of money on you, so
[41:05] if you wanna stop boxing and just keep
winning all these military competitions,
[41:10] you don't have to box anymore.
[41:12] And so I went and told the
boxing team I was leaving to
[41:14] train for triathlon full time.
[41:15] And they said, don't do that.
[41:18] We'll give you the job as the trainer
because you're the only guy that
[41:20] can fight hard from bell to bell.
[41:23] And we need our guys to, because
they keep running out of energy.
[41:26] Well, they're doing a lot of stupid
shit I won't go into, but, so I took
[41:31] the job as the trainer and worked with
an osteopathic physician who was a team
[41:36] doctor, implemented the first sports
massage therapy program in the whole army.
[41:41] Took over their nutrition program,
which I'd learned from my grandfather
[41:45] and my mother and studying, and
our boxing team became the most
[41:52] successful it had ever been.
[41:55] And I then was the trainer of the
United States International team,
[41:59] which is the best fighters from
the Army, Navy, air Force, and
[42:01] Marines, and out of my boxing team.
[42:05] In the 1988 Olympics, all of them had to
fight their way onto the Olympic team.
[42:09] 11 of my boxers made it
to the Olympics in 88.
[42:12] 11 of 12, wasn't it?
[42:13] 11
[42:14] of 12, yeah.
[42:15] Yep.
[42:16] And so when it came time to get outta
the Army, I surveyed the whole world
[42:22] for the best place to go study sports,
massage therapy, because I wanted to
[42:27] mix athletic training, weightlifting,
postural correction, and sports massage
[42:34] therapy to help athletes perform better.
[42:38] And it turned out the best school that
I could find anywhere in the world was
[42:41] right here in Encinitas, California.
[42:43] So I immigrated, I moved out of North
Carolina to here, went to sports
[42:49] massage therapy training, continued
my training, became a holistic
[42:52] health practitioner in the state of
California, which is a license you
[42:55] can get, which it takes more training.
[42:58] And I built my practice
and I never looked back.
[43:02] How much of that, um, those years
of your experience there would
[43:10] you say was intuition or kind of
your innate knowing or as opposed
[43:16] to training school, you know?
[43:19] Well,
[43:20] working it out,
[43:21] my mother joined the self-realization
fellowship when I was 12, which was the
[43:25] greatest thing that ever happened to me.
[43:27] 'cause prior to that, she
was in Christian science.
[43:29] And I, I had a tremendous disdain for
Christianity as a child because one, it.
[43:34] It was very scary.
[43:37] And two, they would never
answer my questions.
[43:40] And three, I could not reconcile a God
that's supposed to love you, but it'll
[43:43] burn you in hell for almost anything.
[43:46] And so I, I, I got really nervous
that adults were so gullible
[43:49] that they believed in this shit
and I knew something was wrong.
[43:54] When they wouldn't answer my questions,
they would just tell me to stop talking.
[43:57] Or you got two ears in one mouth.
[43:59] You're supposed to listen twice
as much as you talk, or children
[44:03] shouldn't be silent and shit like that,
which just pissed me off as a kid.
[44:06] I just like, well, this is crazy.
[44:08] Why can't I, why will no
one answer my questions?
[44:11] But when my mother joined the
Self-Realization Fellowship, which
[44:14] is the teachings of Paramahansa,
the monks were unbelievably wise
[44:20] and loving, and they answered all my
questions and I learned to meditate
[44:24] and I learned a whole bunch of stuff.
[44:27] And I found that the eastern approach
to religion was just radically way more
[44:32] healthy and free and loving and godlike
than any of the Abrahamic religions.
[44:39] And it was a shock to me.
[44:40] I'm like, why would anybody go
to a Christian Church or a Jewish
[44:43] temple or study the Islamic
faith when you've got Hinduism?
[44:48] It's just mind blowingly better.
[44:51] And so then I went to
summer camp with the monks.
[44:55] And your age.
[44:56] What about that?
[44:56] I was, uh, I was 12 at that time,
so I began a regular meditation
[45:00] practice and I started having a
lot of wild spiritual experiences.
[45:04] And due to the stress in my
life, at 12, I started having
[45:07] some, what first was quite scary.
[45:10] I started having outof body experiences
where I would be laying in bed and all of
[45:14] a sudden I'd be floating outta my body.
[45:17] And it, and I learned to control it.
[45:22] And I started going around the farm in my
astral body, which I call my light body.
[45:30] And I would purposely go
see if I could find things.
[45:32] And then I would get up in the morning
and go check to see if they were there.
[45:35] And I realized I wasn't going crazy
and I was afraid to tell my parents.
[45:38] 'cause you know, God
knows what would happen.
[45:41] And so every single time, whatever
I found, even sometimes, you
[45:47] know, a quarter of a mile out in
the woods, I'd find a chainsaw.
[45:50] My dad left out there while
he was cutting trees down.
[45:52] And, and so I realized somehow I'm
able to actually leave my body and
[45:57] be conscious and objectively identify
things, which made me realize
[46:04] that I was much more than my body.
[46:07] And then I spent a lot
of time with the monks.
[46:10] And when I was 15, I went to
summer camp and then I went deeper
[46:12] into my training with the monks.
[46:15] And that stabilized me a lot, helped
me get over a lot of my childhood
[46:19] pain and things that I hadn't resolved
in me that were quite bad traumas.
[46:25] And then jumping forward to the year 2000.
[46:34] Um, I was already quite
successful in my, my profession.
[46:39] Um, and there was a conference
being held in London called The
[46:45] Field Put on by Lynn McTaggart.
[46:48] And Edgar Mitchell was the keynote
speaker, but they offered a one
[46:52] day course in remote viewing by the
director of remote viewing for the CIA.
[46:58] And so I said I gotta go there because
I gotta see if I am good at remote
[47:03] viewing because I intu intuitively
felt what I was doing was actually
[47:07] remote viewing since I was a kid.
[47:11] So there was 750 people
in the training program.
[47:14] It was in a huge auditorium.
[47:16] And two, my instructors were with me that
I, that were working for me at the time.
[47:20] And the way they would do it is they would
put a picture in an envelope that you
[47:24] couldn't see up on a bulletin board, and
you had to use the techniques that they
[47:29] were teaching you and then draw a picture
of what was in the envelope and then
[47:33] they would unveil the picture on a big
screen so you could compare your drawing.
[47:36] Well, the first thing I realized, I didn't
like their technique 'cause I intuitively
[47:40] sensed that wasn't nearly as good as what
I had learned from just my experience.
[47:45] And my instructors kept
going, what the hell?
[47:48] How are you?
[47:48] 'cause I was drawing exactly
what was in the envelopes.
[47:51] So at the end they had a contest
[47:54] and basically the instructor said,
tell me what happened to me on July.
[48:00] Such and such date at this time.
[48:04] And so I just asked my soul, take
me to that time and place in his
[48:09] life, and I found myself hovering
in my light body, my spirit body
[48:14] outside of a large glass building,
like a giant corporate type building.
[48:20] And then I was drawn to the window
and I looked through and I saw him
[48:23] on an, uh, a gurney with all sorts of
equipment hooked to him and doctors
[48:28] and nurses moving very quickly.
[48:31] And I realized he was having some
kind of a medical emergency and I
[48:35] could see that they were monitoring
his heart and they were moving fast.
[48:40] Like you could tell it was
like an emergency situation.
[48:44] So I'm like, I knew intuitively
I was gonna win the contest.
[48:47] And uh, so I waited and waited until
everybody told him he was in caves with
[48:51] dragons and all sorts of silly shit.
[48:54] And so he said, okay,
who thinks they know?
[48:56] And I jumped up.
[48:57] He said, you the soldier
looking guy in the back.
[49:00] And I said, at that time, on that day,
I saw you in a large glass building,
[49:06] which I later realized was a hospital.
[49:09] And you were hooked up to
a lot of emergency sensors.
[49:12] I saw them monitoring your heart,
I saw them injecting you, and I saw
[49:15] them moving very quickly, like they
were preparing you for surgery.
[49:19] And he turned white.
[49:20] He literally was shocked.
[49:21] He didn't think anyone was gonna get it.
[49:23] And so he didn't say that I had won.
[49:26] So I had to listen to people say
all this crazy shit for two hours.
[49:30] And finally he says, you the soldier
guy at the back, you're the winner.
[49:34] And then he said, I had an uh, I
had a, a heart attack and I was
[49:38] going into emergency heart surgery.
[49:40] And so since then I've actually found,
uh, three, three on three different times
[49:46] I've found people that were lost and
nobody could find, including the National
[49:50] Guard for people that got ahold of me.
[49:52] And so the reason I'm telling you
that is because throughout my life
[49:59] I've always had this inner sense of
connection to my soul, which is God
[50:06] within you, consciousness within you.
[50:09] And so I've just followed that inner guide
and that's how I invented so many things.
[50:15] That's how I figured out
how to build water chargers.
[50:17] That's how I knew to bring the
Swiss ball to the exercise industry.
[50:22] That's how I built the
primal pattern system.
[50:25] I've always specialized
in challenge cases.
[50:28] So the way I built my business in
San Diego is I just went to doctors
[50:31] and therapists all over the place and
said, send me the toughest patients
[50:34] you got and there's nothing to lose
if I don't make progress with 'em.
[50:38] 'cause you're not making
progress with 'em anyhow.
[50:41] And I offered to do evaluations for any
doctor or any of their medical staff for
[50:46] free and their first program for free.
[50:49] So in no time, I had a huge
practice full of doctors and their
[50:52] wives and their children and.
[50:56] Basically I got complicated cases,
so I just used my training for
[51:02] meditation and calming myself and
I would connect to the soul of the
[51:07] individual and ask it to guide me.
[51:10] And I would find out all sorts
of stuff about people that
[51:13] nobody had ever looked into.
[51:16] And I became extremely successful
at dealing with medical failures.
[51:20] And I had athletes coming to
see me from all over the world.
[51:23] You know, no one can figure out.
[51:25] I brought three of the world's greatest
athletes outta medical retirement,
[51:28] including one of your own Ricky Stewart.
[51:30] He was forced into medical retirement
and the Canva Raiders begged me to
[51:34] see if I could do anything with, I
brought him out and he played like, I
[51:36] dunno, five more seasons after that.
[51:39] I brought Gary Roberts, had a
medical retirement when he was
[51:42] forced into retirement by the
Calgary Flames, uh, surgeons.
[51:47] And I brought one of the best horse
racers in the world outta retirement,
[51:51] Richard Dunwoody, who had had 40
bad falls racing horses, and he lost
[51:57] all the muscles in his left arm.
[51:59] He had a severe nerve injury and neck
pathology that nobody could figure out.
[52:05] And after I rehabbed him and reconditioned
him, he went back and won the Triple Crown
[52:09] and wrote about me in his autobiography.
[52:11] And there's a picture he
sent me in the gym there.
[52:14] If you see, you can see it in there.
[52:16] And so I basically started the Czech
Institute in 1995 because so many
[52:23] of the elite doctors and therapists
were saying, you know, people really
[52:25] need to learn what it is you do.
[52:27] 'cause nobody thinks this way.
[52:29] And so I was integrating diet, lifestyle,
mental, emotional posture, corrective
[52:38] exercise, clinical massage therapy.
[52:42] I'd also gotten trained
in neuromuscular therapy.
[52:44] So I spent, I went through
all their training to become a
[52:47] clinical massage therapist as
well, which is very detailed work.
[52:52] And so I mixed all these together
and that was really what the
[52:55] Check Institute was based on.
[52:57] And I just traveled all over the
world looking for the best doctors
[52:59] and therapists at key things that
I thought I needed to know based on
[53:03] what kept coming at me with patients.
[53:05] So if I had a lot of neurological
problems, I would go study the
[53:09] experts on these problems if there
was a lot of spinal pathology.
[53:12] I studied that.
[53:13] I did five cadaver dissections,
uh, at various universities.
[53:18] And I just made a, a, a life
of, you know, I've collected all
[53:23] these books in 41 years, and how
[53:26] many there?
[53:26] 5,000.
[53:27] There's o there's over 5,000 and
I've probably studied 2000 of 'em
[53:32] cover to cover and hundreds and
hundreds more as select research,
[53:37] research reference material.
[53:40] And, um,
[53:43] so the answer to your question,
and a long way of saying it is I've
[53:47] always had this inner sense since I
learned from the monks how to meditate
[53:52] and how to trust my inner self.
[53:55] Later I learned that was my soul
and made contact with my own soul.
[54:00] And then, then I realized what the
soul was and how to work with it.
[54:05] And I've been perfecting
that for many years.
[54:07] And now I teach training programs on that,
which is a lot of what I do in my New
[54:12] Spirit gym program is teach people how to
guide, get guided from their inner self.
[54:16] And that's helped me with,
you know, I, I'm an inventor.
[54:20] I've got multiple patents,
I've invented lots of things.
[54:23] I invented calibrated instruments
for orthopedic assessment.
[54:26] I invented a hydrotherapy device for
correcting muscle imbalances in legs.
[54:30] I invented a device for another device for
measuring structural changes in the body.
[54:35] 'cause there's measurements that
nobody was taking that I needed to,
[54:38] to, to do proper rehabilitation.
[54:42] Um,
[54:45] yeah, so my program's multidisciplinary,
so I got doctors of every kind, therapists
[54:49] of every kind, trainers, strength
coaches, massage therapists, and we've
[54:53] had over 63,000 people come through
the institute since I started at 95.
[54:58] Just going back to your assessments
before, you were saying that you would
[55:05] correct me if I'm wrong, essentially
get in touch with your patient's soul.
[55:08] Yeah.
[55:09] And then was.
[55:10] You know, the, the, the
body keeps the score.
[55:13] The, and the, yeah, the, the, the
soul that you connect with their soul.
[55:18] Yeah.
[55:18] Was it telling you what the,
because it already knew.
[55:20] It just mm-hmm.
[55:21] The, the, the, the, the men, the
mental, the mental state, the physical.
[55:26] They didn't know how to do it though.
[55:27] The body did, and you were just
like the conduit to say, Hey,
[55:30] yeah, you spoke the language.
[55:32] You know,
[55:33] I was talking to their body,
which is the subconscious mind.
[55:35] But I was really connecting to
the soul because I have a very
[55:38] comprehensive system of assessment.
[55:40] Uh, I mean, you know, I've got
some of the top doctors in the
[55:44] world that have studied with me.
[55:45] My, the director of my education
system, Matthew Walden is an
[55:49] osteopathic physician, a naturopathic
position, and a super smart guy,
[55:53] famous for his journal articles.
[55:55] He is an editor for the Journal
of Body Work and Movement there.
[55:57] He studied with me for 27 years.
[56:00] So the people that were coming to me,
you know, a lot of 'em, very elite
[56:04] athletes, had such complicated cases.
[56:07] Some of them had 30 or 40 significant
things wrong with them at once.
[56:13] So with people not having millions of
dollars to go see 40 doctors at once, and
[56:20] knowing that their cases were too complex
to simply be physical issues alone, I
[56:28] learned that the best way to take the
data that I'd gathered and figure out
[56:33] what was the real etiology behind this.
[56:37] Was to connect to that person's soul.
[56:39] And oftentimes I would have visions
of them being traumatized as children
[56:43] or them hurting other people and,
and holding that pain inside of them.
[56:50] But the, the number one most common
problem, believe it or not, that I found
[56:58] consistently was beliefs about God.
[57:02] That were actually pitting them up against
their own instincts and their own sense
[57:07] of freedom and causing them to do things
like stay in marriages that they've been
[57:13] unhappy in for 20 years because they
believed that till death do you part.
[57:18] So I found the majority of what was
actually causing people's illnesses and
[57:22] diseases and chronic structural pain was
these root beliefs that led to behaviors
[57:30] and choices that were ultimately causing
them to have a lot of addictions to
[57:34] medicate the stress of not being able to
heal their belief system or their trauma.
[57:41] And so I studied world
religion extensively.
[57:45] I studied philosophy,
I studied psychology.
[57:47] I studied, I've been studying Jung's
work for 30 plus years, 35 years.
[57:51] Same with Steiner.
[57:52] I studied Steiner extensively.
[57:55] I studied Wilbur extensively.
[57:56] I studied Hara, Enoch Khan, a Sufi master.
[58:00] I studied many of the greatest mystics,
healers, teachers, therapists, and
[58:05] doctors, and I developed a very
deep understanding of mysticism
[58:12] and religion and world religion.
[58:14] I studied all of Houston Smith's work,
who is considered to be the greatest
[58:17] expert of world religion that ever lived.
[58:21] And through my own work, my own
spiritual practices, my own work with
[58:27] plant medicines, I was trained to
use plant medicines therapeutically.
[58:31] And I've conducted probably a thousand
healing ceremonies with plant medicines
[58:34] in my career and done many, many very
deep shamonic journeys where I was able
[58:39] to have deep spiritual experiences and
get answers to, to really deep questions.
[58:45] And so what that gave me the ability
to do was I had a structure and a
[58:51] system of how the psyche grows and
develops, and what happens when one's
[58:54] traumatized, or what happens when one
has a belief system that's limiting them.
[58:58] And I have a deep understanding
of the spirit and soul.
[59:01] So I'm able to sense and speak to
the soul, find out what they're here
[59:04] to do, but why they're not doing it.
[59:07] And whenever the soul is not doing
what it came to the world to do, it
[59:10] creates tremendous stress inside of
them that often produces a neurosis
[59:15] because the patient feels a deep
sense of they're going in the wrong,
[59:20] wrong direction and that life is not
meaningful for them, which leads to
[59:23] a lot of addictions and a lot of.
[59:25] Um, emotional pain that gets projected
out in relationships and leads to a
[59:30] lot of trauma and relationships and a
lot of broken marriages and divorces
[59:35] and kids being left alone and isolated
because parents can't get along.
[59:41] And so I was actually able consistently to
identify what was the real issue that was
[59:48] leading to the eating disorder or to the
irritable bowel syndrome, or the chronic
[59:52] low back pain, or the visual disorder or
the, um, heart condition or the burned out
[1:00:00] adrenal glands, or the combination of 20
of these things at once and guide people
[1:00:07] and help them by becoming a translator
for them and showing them, for example,
[1:00:15] that you cannot read the Bible literally
and understand that it's impossible to do.
[1:00:19] You have to have a depth of
knowledge of the language, of
[1:00:23] the culture, the meaning of those
words at that time, the symbology.
[1:00:28] And so.
[1:00:29] I would actually show them what
these beliefs of theirs really
[1:00:33] meant, which would be very shocking.
[1:00:35] And then I would pull out books by
mystics from their own religions and
[1:00:39] say, okay, let me show you what Meister
Eckhart has to say about, let's show
[1:00:44] you what Giro Donno Bruno has to say.
[1:00:46] Let me show you what St. Hildegard of
Benjen had to say about these issues.
[1:00:50] And when you see what the most
enlightened people from that
[1:00:53] reli, it is night and day.
[1:00:55] And people would realize they'd been
living a, a, a confused interpretation
[1:01:00] of religious ideas programmed into
them by very unenlightened people that
[1:01:06] gave them a very scary view of God.
[1:01:08] And to the degree your ideas about God
put you out of touch with love, your life
[1:01:15] will be very painful to live because you
are going to have all these beliefs that
[1:01:19] you think God wants and is and demands
of you, when really it's not true at all.
[1:01:26] So over the course of my career, my
orientation went from physical training
[1:01:34] and high performance training and acute
injury rehab to a deep study of psychology
[1:01:43] and philosophy and religion and world
religion and mysticism and shamanism.
[1:01:50] And I used my abilities to
communicate with the soul to
[1:01:55] say, what's really going on?
[1:01:57] And oftentimes I would see very
traumatic wounds in childhood.
[1:02:03] And unfortunately, I probably have
had over 50 clients that were sexually
[1:02:08] abused by Christian pastors, preachers
and, and, and, uh, um, priests.
[1:02:15] Uh, so I would see this in their energy
field and their soul would say, this
[1:02:19] person's suffering from this sexual
trauma that's never been healed.
[1:02:23] And they'd often been afraid
to say anything about it.
[1:02:25] And when they did, they often got
ridiculed and punished even by
[1:02:28] their parents for talking about it.
[1:02:31] Um, now I could tell you a thousand things
that, that I've identified in people.
[1:02:37] But in essence, what a Czech professional
is trained to do is to really get
[1:02:42] to the core of what's going on and
then have enough knowledge of these
[1:02:47] things to help you have a much broader
perspective of the belief that you're
[1:02:53] acting out, usually unconsciously.
[1:02:55] 'cause most of these things are
programmed into children before they even
[1:02:58] have any ego to have any discernment,
but they act in the unconscious.
[1:03:05] So this is why Yung says, your
unconscious will continue to meet you
[1:03:08] on the outside, in the events of your
life until you meet your unconscious on
[1:03:13] the inside, and you will call it fate.
[1:03:15] And that's exactly what
I was dealing with.
[1:03:17] A lot of people that were faded
by the pain and confusion in their
[1:03:22] unconscious mind, guiding and directing
their life from behind the scenes.
[1:03:26] But not realizing it.
[1:03:27] They were just basically externalizing
beliefs that were programmed into them by
[1:03:32] other people that were very unenlightened.
[1:03:35] So they had a stor, they basically
created a story based on their experience.
[1:03:38] Yes.
[1:03:38] Whether it's in church, I mean, I
guess a lot of, for those who weren't
[1:03:43] exposed to a religion, they still
were exposed to, it's all the same.
[1:03:47] The home environment, the school
environment, the whatever, the, well,
[1:03:51] not only that, look, there's two
things I'll say to you there.
[1:03:56] We live in a Christian culture, so I don't
care if you're an atheist or an agnostic,
[1:04:00] you're being programmed into Christianity.
[1:04:02] Everywhere you go, all you gotta do
is look at the names of the streets,
[1:04:04] the names of the holidays you're in.
[1:04:06] You're swimming in a Christian culture.
[1:04:08] So someone, someone who tries to
tell me that they're not affected
[1:04:11] by Christianity is like a fish
trying to tell me that it's not wet.
[1:04:15] And I go, oh yeah, just
gimme five minutes with you.
[1:04:17] I'll ask you a few key questions.
[1:04:19] And then the other issue is, and J
pointed this out better than anybody,
[1:04:24] when he addressed the issue of
atheism, he said something profound.
[1:04:31] He said, for something to be
rejected, it must first be real.
[1:04:35] Mm. So what I did is I studied
atheism and I found a number of
[1:04:41] studies by psychologists and what they
showed, the most common denominator
[1:04:46] amongst atheists is a traumatic
relationship with their father.
[1:04:50] So now all you gotta do is
go look at the Christian God.
[1:04:53] And it is a very traumatic father figure.
[1:04:56] So their unconscious rejection
of God is the rejection of an
[1:05:00] of a abusive father figure.
[1:05:04] But no one on this planet does not come
with the urge to figure out who they are
[1:05:10] and what they are and how they got here.
[1:05:12] The problem is, is they end up
turning to materialism 'cause that's
[1:05:16] the only thing they have left.
[1:05:18] But you can never make sense of
life from a materialistic viewpoint.
[1:05:21] 'cause quite simply, matter
cannot organize itself.
[1:05:25] I say, how long do you have to
stand next to a pile of rocks
[1:05:27] before a Rolex watch a toaster or
a or A-A-B-B-M-W jumps out of it.
[1:05:33] Well, you know longer than God has.
[1:05:36] So in alchemy, they show you that the fire
and the air elements are volatile and the
[1:05:43] earth and the water elements are passive.
[1:05:47] If you go into Steiner's teaching
the fire element and the air element
[1:05:51] is the domain of Lucifer and the
water and earth elements of the
[1:05:54] domain of Araman and Christ is
the mediating force between them.
[1:05:58] So we've all got these three forces inside
of us, and really the spiritual path is
[1:06:04] learning to identify the monic influence
of the materialistic influence with the
[1:06:09] Lucifer influence, the desire to create
illusions and get out of the world with
[1:06:15] the Christ impulse, which says you need.
[1:06:19] To use the Lucifer influence and the
Monic influence in a balanced way, because
[1:06:25] they're basically forces in the psyche.
[1:06:28] But if you don't know how to manage
them, they will take you over and
[1:06:31] your life will be exactly what
you see in the world right now.
[1:06:34] And if you can get that
balance, you stand in your I am
[1:06:37] you stand in your I am.
[1:06:38] And you know, you're a conscious
co-creator with God and you're a
[1:06:44] citizen of the universe, and that
you have ultimate sovereignty.
[1:06:49] And there's nothing to be afraid about
with death because we all die and
[1:06:53] we've died many, many, many times.
[1:06:54] Yogananda says it takes about 6 billion
reincarnations through the kingdom of
[1:07:00] nature to get your first human body.
[1:07:02] He says there's about 60 billion,
billion souls at any given
[1:07:05] time waiting for a human body.
[1:07:07] And if you knew how fortunate you were to
have one, you'd be dancing in the streets.
[1:07:12] So we all have an unconscious
knowledge of the truth, but it takes
[1:07:20] real spiritual development to kind of
awaken to the truth of yourself and
[1:07:24] to heal the broken parts of yourself
that are limiting your perception.
[1:07:28] 'cause the wounds distort
the lens of perception.
[1:07:32] And so
[1:07:36] that's the human journey, you know?
[1:07:38] And, and, and the point I'm making is.
[1:07:42] You can't resolve the paradox of
reality as an atheist because you
[1:07:47] get to matter and you're stuck.
[1:07:49] And you can't even do it with Big Bang
cosmology because you have to say,
[1:07:54] well, where did the Big Bang come from?
[1:07:56] So you end up at a impasse.
[1:07:58] And so having studied cosmology for
years, as I show in my New Spirit Jim
[1:08:03] book series, when I did my research,
there were 37 theories of everything.
[1:08:09] And not one of them is more objectively
valid than the other one, because none
[1:08:13] of them can say, where did the energy and
the information come from to create the
[1:08:18] cosmos that they have in their theory?
[1:08:20] So ultimately what you see is mythology,
religion and science are all qual footing.
[1:08:27] The difference is the scientists convince
you that they're right and it's objective.
[1:08:32] The religious people say, well,
science is wrong, but they can't
[1:08:35] prove their origins either.
[1:08:38] So we're all in this beautiful,
mystical, mysterious place called myth.
[1:08:43] And so what is a myth?
[1:08:45] It's a story that tells
itself and here we all are.
[1:08:49] And the problem is, is you're
gonna live your story out.
[1:08:51] And if you don't learn how to
edit it and get clear on what you
[1:08:53] want, you're gonna be somebody's
patient or you're gonna be dead.
[1:08:58] Tell me, um, and doing Spirit, Jim, which
we, I, I want to get to is a way I'm sure
[1:09:04] for one to, um, connect with one's soul.
[1:09:08] Yeah.
[1:09:09] Is there a, without giving it all away,
is there a way you could never give
[1:09:12] it all away?
[1:09:12] It's if you knew how much,
it's a 15 volume set of books.
[1:09:17] It's 3000 pages and there's
about 60 hours of training that's
[1:09:22] already, I've already filmed it
for the members when they sign up.
[1:09:25] That would take you probably a year
to do the training and the lessons
[1:09:29] that I've built, plus I do weekly,
um, I do a weekly presentation, so I
[1:09:35] guide people one at a time through the
lesson so they can ask me questions.
[1:09:38] And I take anybody in the membership
that wants help with anything in
[1:09:43] their life, from building their
career to healing their diseases,
[1:09:46] to giving over relationship problem.
[1:09:47] I mean, that's what I've
been doing for 41 years.
[1:09:51] So I'm just there to support them in
actually getting to the root causes and
[1:09:54] learning how to use their mind and their
creative abilities and, and have, you
[1:09:59] know, a healthy intuition and a real
relationship with their soul so that
[1:10:03] they actually become a whole individuated
human being and not just a programmed.
[1:10:09] Robot that's acting on everybody
else's belief systems and medicating
[1:10:13] their fears and their pains for,
for lack of any other option?
[1:10:17] Well, I guess the good news
is it's actually possible, you
[1:10:19] know?
[1:10:19] Oh, totally possible.
[1:10:20] Yeah.
[1:10:21] I mean, I've had to heal
a lot of stuff in my life.
[1:10:24] You know, my brother committed
suicide, my dad drowned my, had lots
[1:10:29] of trauma from my father, seeing
my, my family abused and hurt badly.
[1:10:35] My sister's son drowned when he was three.
[1:10:39] You know, I've lost my grandparents
that I loved, multiple of them.
[1:10:45] Um, you know, I've had a
lot of bad traumas myself.
[1:10:50] I was in a coma for two days
in a motocross racing accident.
[1:10:55] I've had many, many broken bones,
um, racing motocross, and I got, you
[1:11:02] know, I got broken bones all through
my body from all my stunt events on
[1:11:09] motorcycles and every other thing.
[1:11:11] Um, so I've had a lot of physical trauma.
[1:11:13] I've had a lot of emotional
and mental trauma.
[1:11:16] I've been through a divorce, you know,
my first son's 43 years old now, and I
[1:11:21] got a grandson that's three with him,
and I got an 8-year-old and a 5-year-old.
[1:11:26] And, you know, I, monogamy
didn't work for me.
[1:11:29] So after my first marriage ended after 17
years, I promised myself no more of that.
[1:11:34] So.
[1:11:35] I asked Great Spirit prayed every
day for a year and a half to bring
[1:11:38] me a partner that would let me be me
and support me in my life mission.
[1:11:41] And that was Penny.
[1:11:42] And we've been married for 28 years now.
[1:11:44] I met Penny in Canberra, Australia,
and four days later we were
[1:11:47] engaged to get married, and
we've been married for 28 years.
[1:11:51] Then I, um, met Angie and
she became, she joined me and
[1:11:58] Penny as a family 13 years ago.
[1:12:00] And so we, Angie directs the nutrition
and lifestyle coaching department.
[1:12:06] Angie's got a degree in, um, nutrition.
[1:12:08] She's got a degree in energy medicine.
[1:12:10] She's got a degree in biology.
[1:12:12] She did three years of advanced training
with Michael Harner, one of the top
[1:12:15] shaman in the world who runs the in.
[1:12:17] He died now, but Angie was in
his last class before he died,
[1:12:22] but he founded the Institute for
Shamanic Studies in San Francisco.
[1:12:26] Penny's got three master's degree.
[1:12:28] She's got a master's in biological
anthropology from Cambridge, a
[1:12:31] master's in exercise and sports
science from Colorado State, a master's
[1:12:35] in business from Colorado State.
[1:12:36] And she's a pilot.
[1:12:38] And so
[1:12:39] she's a master at keeping you aligned too.
[1:12:41] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:12:42] Well, you know, she, she supports
me very well and she supports Angie.
[1:12:46] So all of us really have a very
in integral mission, and we're
[1:12:49] all the, the kind of the driving
force behind the Check Institute.
[1:12:55] And so our lives have been devoted to
doing our best to bring good education
[1:13:01] to people and to help people heal.
[1:13:04] And, and grow together and work
through our own challenges together,
[1:13:08] like everybody has to, but we,
we've always done very, very well.
[1:13:13] And I point is, is I created the
life that I wanted to live because
[1:13:20] I don't believe in limitations and
posed upon you by other people.
[1:13:24] Unless you buy into that with
your heart and say, that's the
[1:13:28] way I wanna live, that's fine.
[1:13:30] But what I find is very few
people are actually living
[1:13:33] true to their authentic self.
[1:13:35] And that is a great way to have a life
of a lot of chronic health problems.
[1:13:39] And so I learned early be true to your own
self or you can't be true to anybody else.
[1:13:46] And so I devoted my life to being honest
with myself and following my own path.
[1:13:51] And I developed my own system of
education, my own system of healing.
[1:13:56] And, um, I created freedom
for myself at any cost.
[1:14:03] And I pioneered a lot of things and I've
been attacked repeatedly in my career.
[1:14:07] But because I had a very good system
of analysis and, and objective
[1:14:13] assessment, and I measured everything.
[1:14:16] I don't care.
[1:14:17] I've, I've been in debates
all over the world.
[1:14:19] I've never lost a single debate because
I can prove what I teach, and I've
[1:14:24] done it over and over and over again.
[1:14:26] What,
[1:14:26] what do the, um, conventional
doctors think of Paul J
[1:14:30] It depends if they're, if they're
awake, they think it's obvious, and they
[1:14:35] go, shit, why didn't I think of that?
[1:14:38] And if they're not awake, well
then they just come at me with
[1:14:41] all their studies and bullshit.
[1:14:43] But I just dissect that easily.
[1:14:45] I mean, I, I know a lot about science.
[1:14:47] I've helped design scientific studies.
[1:14:50] Inventions of mine have been
used in scientific studies.
[1:14:53] I've written journals in major,
um, research, uh, written
[1:14:59] articles in journals and major
research journals I've published.
[1:15:04] I, I wrote a chapter called
Posture and c Craniofacial Pain
[1:15:07] and a medical Book on head pain.
[1:15:10] Um, you know, I could back
what I say very, very well.
[1:15:15] Here's, there's 5,000 books there
that probably yeah, probably help you.
[1:15:18] Um, what is the, just
conscious of the time, Paul?
[1:15:22] Um, yeah, we've got
[1:15:23] about 15 minutes.
[1:15:24] What's the, what's the craziest
experience you've had with a patient,
[1:15:32] you know, or, or maybe it's not with
a patient, just yourself in terms of.
[1:15:36] Unexpected.
[1:15:37] Scary off the charts cosmic.
[1:15:41] Well, I know I did, I did listen
to one about, um, some, um, some
[1:15:47] puppets, a bunny, like it was a
rabbit and a, um, you had to help
[1:15:53] get rid of out of a, a possession.
[1:15:55] There was,
[1:15:55] well that was
[1:15:55] a puppets and
[1:15:56] that was a patient from
Australia actually.
[1:15:59] Um, but that wasn't even close
to the scariest or the craziest.
[1:16:02] I've seen some crazy shit with patients.
[1:16:05] I've had, I had a class in
Canberra, Australia one time
[1:16:10] with like 55 people in it.
[1:16:12] And back in those days, me and Dr.
[1:16:15] Oliver who taught my courses with
me, he was a very skilled doctor
[1:16:19] and musician and sound healer.
[1:16:21] Him and I used to demonstrate, um,
sound healing and, and doing healing
[1:16:27] ceremonies to teach people how to go
beyond just your evaluation and how to
[1:16:33] use these principles of healing and,
and working with spiritual forces.
[1:16:37] So I would call in spirit guides
and angels to come help people.
[1:16:42] And then I would also have my
soul connect me to their soul.
[1:16:46] And I would basically write down
what my soul, through connection to
[1:16:51] their soul would say we needed to
use for which musical instruments,
[1:16:54] which frequencies, et cetera.
[1:16:56] But what would happen is because the,
once I opened the ceremony, a lot of,
[1:17:00] a lot of things like angels and higher
spiritual beings would come into the room.
[1:17:05] People with entity possessions
would go off because the entities
[1:17:08] don't like that energy around them.
[1:17:10] And so one time we had three very badly
possessed people in the room in Canberra,
[1:17:17] Australia, and we had one big rugby
player, probably 220 pound muscular dude,
[1:17:24] thought he was a wolf, and he was on his
hands and knees running around the room
[1:17:27] trying to bite people and attack people.
[1:17:30] And at the same time, two others went
off, all strong males acting very, you
[1:17:37] know, like you're talking some shit.
[1:17:40] Scared the shit out of people.
[1:17:41] I mean, people were crying their eyes
and even men were crying their eyes out,
[1:17:45] calling the cops running out the door.
[1:17:48] I mean, this was, you know,
like exorcist type stuff.
[1:17:51] And even my assistant
instructors were scared to death.
[1:17:54] So I was having to calm and center and
work with these people and ground them.
[1:17:59] Um, and then how'd you deal with that?
[1:18:02] Well, I was able to stabilize 'em.
[1:18:04] I just work with the entities.
[1:18:05] I've run into these things many times.
[1:18:07] So I just talked to them and, you
know, asked them, why are you here?
[1:18:10] Why is, why have you
possessed this person?
[1:18:12] And so I would, I ultimately connected
each of them with healers in, in
[1:18:17] Australia that I had to do research
to find, or that I connected to people
[1:18:21] and found and to help stabilize them.
[1:18:24] And I, and I was able
to get the room stable.
[1:18:26] But that's one example of a, of
an experience that scared the
[1:18:30] shit out of a lot of people.
[1:18:33] Um, but because I had seen this, you know,
I've been conducting healing ceremony
[1:18:36] with plant medicines for a long time.
[1:18:38] So I've seen everything you can
think of come out of people.
[1:18:41] And I also know how to do entity work.
[1:18:43] So does Angie as a shaman.
[1:18:44] She does it all the time.
[1:18:46] Um, but the most scary experiences I've
ever had is, you know, I've done a lot of
[1:18:50] research on myself and because I've had
so many people come to me from all over
[1:18:56] the world that had been injured quite
badly by doing too much plant medicines
[1:19:00] or too frequently or too deep a doses,
a lot of people became schizophrenic.
[1:19:05] A lot of people got entity possessions.
[1:19:08] Um, really just a, a lot of psychological
trauma because if you, if you open
[1:19:15] up the ego to the point where it can
no longer control the unconscious,
[1:19:20] then you can't limit what comes
into your conscious perception.
[1:19:24] So you can end up being in multiple
dimensions of reality at one
[1:19:28] time, and you can't tell which
one's more real than the other.
[1:19:32] And you can also have things
like what y would call
[1:19:35] complexes, which are networks of
[1:19:40] neural associations, for
example, from trauma that have
[1:19:44] so much psychic energy in them.
[1:19:45] They develop a personality of
their own, and that's the source
[1:19:48] of multiple personality disorder.
[1:19:51] So
[1:19:54] I've seen a lot of these things and, and.
[1:19:56] To do, because I had so many of these
people coming to me from all these plant
[1:20:01] medicine ceremonies all over the world.
[1:20:04] I realized I needed to map
out the inner dimensions.
[1:20:08] So, and because I did a year of
training with a, a doctor that uses
[1:20:12] plant medicines and I became a, a
member of the Native American Council
[1:20:16] so I could use them legally through
the Native American Indian Rights, I
[1:20:23] started researching in 2006 on myself.
[1:20:27] And I would take a particular
medicine, be it mushrooms,
[1:20:30] L-S-D-D-M-T, I used, uh, San Pedro.
[1:20:34] I used many different medicines, and I
would progressively up the dose ceremony
[1:20:39] after ceremony until I hit psychosis.
[1:20:41] And I would map out what was the
inner terrain like, what were the
[1:20:46] kind of entities that showed up.
[1:20:48] Like I've run into extraterrestrial beings
many times and had lots of conversations.
[1:20:52] I met many dark entities as well.
[1:20:55] Well, so the point I'm driving at is
I've been through some really scary shit.
[1:21:01] I've been broke, I've went bankrupt.
[1:21:05] I've had death in the family.
[1:21:08] I've had traumas that I didn't
know I'd ever recover from.
[1:21:12] Like I told you, I was, I was completely
unconscious for two days in a coma.
[1:21:18] Um, from a head injury.
[1:21:21] I've had six major
concussions racing motocross.
[1:21:25] But the experiences that really
were intense is when I got into real
[1:21:31] deep plant medicine ceremonies with
DMT and, and DMT and mixed with,
[1:21:38] uh, in combination with ayahuasca.
[1:21:42] And I, and I have gone so deep
into God, I didn't know if I was
[1:21:46] alive anymore or how to get back.
[1:21:50] And I've completely dissolved
into beyond the universe.
[1:21:54] I've had many samati experiences.
[1:21:56] You know, I worked with a Tai
Chi master for a long time.
[1:21:58] I did daily Tai Chi for 18
years, sometimes twice a day.
[1:22:03] I've trained in medical Qigong.
[1:22:05] I did lots of that.
[1:22:07] I'd meditated for years
and years and still do.
[1:22:10] Um, I've gone to non-dual states with
no medicines whatsoever many times.
[1:22:16] But I went so deep in many of these plant
medicine ceremonies that I, I literally, I
[1:22:25] didn't, I didn't even know if I was alive.
[1:22:27] I, I was so merged with the emptiness
and the, the, just the, there's
[1:22:33] nothing you can say to describe
it, but I, I have been so deep.
[1:22:41] I woke up, came into consciousness,
found myself curled into the fetal
[1:22:45] position, crying for my mother, and
I'm an ex. Fighting paratrooper and
[1:22:52] the intensity of the vastness and
the emptiness of God is so utterly
[1:23:00] shocking to the psyche that there is
nothing that can prepare you for it.
[1:23:08] Nothing.
[1:23:09] And
[1:23:11] those experiences, whenever they've
happened, have been something
[1:23:16] that some of them took me months
and months to reintegrate from.
[1:23:22] And one time I had a very deep
DMT journey and interestingly,
[1:23:31] DMT doesn't last long in the body.
[1:23:33] 'cause the body loves it.
[1:23:34] It cata it eats it up instantly, you
know, so A DMT journey only lasts
[1:23:38] about 12 minutes, but I had a complete
union with God and every single day
[1:23:45] for I think 14 days at exactly 2:38 AM
Strangely enough, I went into a complete
[1:23:53] reliving of it, and it was profound.
[1:23:57] And I was like alive
in multiple dimensions.
[1:24:02] I've had experiences that were so
absolutely contrary to everything
[1:24:08] we're taught about reality.
[1:24:12] And being a remote viewer,
it wa it was easier for me to
[1:24:15] reconcile some of these things.
[1:24:18] But I've actually found that
my soul is living in multiple
[1:24:23] bodies, in different dimensions.
[1:24:25] And even in one dimension, I, I'm
on a different planet altogether,
[1:24:29] but it's similar to earth.
[1:24:31] But I'm with a wife and I've
got three kids and I'm living
[1:24:36] more of a hunter gatherer type.
[1:24:38] And, but it was, it was in a place
that really felt like Hawaii.
[1:24:41] It was very warm.
[1:24:43] And there was these beautiful waiting
pools, natural waiting pools, many
[1:24:47] of them almost like craters that the
natives would swim in and fish in.
[1:24:52] And I would be out with my wife and kids.
[1:24:57] And I mean, these are just the kinds of
experiences I've come back from and went,
[1:25:02] how in the fucking world is this possible?
[1:25:06] And so I'd have to go into meditation
and ask my soul to take me back to these
[1:25:11] dimensions when I was not on the medicine
so I could actually consciously and take
[1:25:16] notes and really like comprehend it.
[1:25:19] And I've just had, I've come to
the conclusion that God is infinite
[1:25:27] intelligence, infinite power,
[1:25:32] infinite creativity, infinite information
and infinite processing speed, and that
[1:25:40] God is actually testing every single
possibility that exists at the same time.
[1:25:45] Everywhere simultaneously.
[1:25:48] And that time is an illusion that
is created, and each of us is what
[1:25:52] I call rom Doss Rom God doss worker.
[1:25:56] We are each expressing one potential
of God living it out, and that there
[1:26:01] is no judgment from being a Hitler
or a mass murderer to a saint.
[1:26:06] It's all God testing, all
of its possibilities for
[1:26:10] its own self-realization.
[1:26:13] And paradoxically, God itself
is growing in its own evolution.
[1:26:17] And what we call the universe is actually
one of an infinite number of universes.
[1:26:22] But that in every one of them, if you
think of the universe as a living being,
[1:26:26] it's going through the same stages
of growth and development that we go
[1:26:30] through from birth to, to the success of
stages of life to old age and maturity.
[1:26:36] And that's what the OM
of Hinduism really means.
[1:26:40] Awe, I awaken.
[1:26:42] Ooh, I'm dreaming.
[1:26:45] Ooh, I'm falling asleep.
[1:26:46] Underscore, end of cycle
[1:26:48] loss.
[1:26:50] End of end of that cycle.
[1:26:51] Yeah.
[1:26:51] And so this is Om is scale and variant.
[1:26:54] It's active from a sub quantum subatomic
particle all the way to the universe.
[1:26:59] It's in every I. I talk all about
this in my spirit, Jim series.
[1:27:02] I show how om is the master cycle
that's nested in everything.
[1:27:06] And so there's.
[1:27:08] I also have met extraterrestrial
civilizations in my astral travels and
[1:27:13] my, um, remote viewing and astral travels
that are so far advanced beyond us.
[1:27:19] And I've even met extraterrestrial
beings that say they've re-engineered
[1:27:23] us and they have changed our DNA
so that we have more abilities.
[1:27:29] And they're the ones that took us from
being primates and turned us into humans.
[1:27:34] And I've had wild, wild conversations
with these beings and they've taught
[1:27:40] me things that I know they're not, that
I'm not imagining things 'cause I can
[1:27:45] go research things the and find them.
[1:27:48] And so
[1:27:52] I've come to the realization that God is
everything and every one, and that God
[1:27:58] itself is in its own process of evolution.
[1:28:03] And that what we call the
universe is ultimately God's body.
[1:28:07] And that we are each like cells,
just like your body's made of
[1:28:10] approximately a hundred trillion cells.
[1:28:12] Every living organism is a source
of experience and information
[1:28:16] within the body of God.
[1:28:19] So just like we have a heart and a
liver and kidneys, you could say the
[1:28:23] earth is like an organ in the solar
system, which is an organ in the galaxy,
[1:28:27] which is an organ in the universe.
[1:28:29] And that every one of them is serving
some kind of a very profound and
[1:28:33] unique function of experiencing.
[1:28:37] And gathering information so
that God wakes up to what it is.
[1:28:42] And I found exactly what the Hindu sages
said about the cycles of how the cycle
[1:28:49] of Brahma coming into being, sometimes
referred to as Vishnu, and then a
[1:28:54] universe comes into being and it grows
and matures, and then it terminates.
[1:28:59] But I found that it's not that the
universe is doing that as a whole
[1:29:04] because there's star systems in the
universe that are being born all the
[1:29:08] time, and there's others that are aging.
[1:29:10] So our solar system will go through its
own evolutionary process, and Steiner
[1:29:14] describes that process very beautifully.
[1:29:18] And that this, the consciousness
that's now on earth will then move
[1:29:23] to another planet as it evolves.
[1:29:26] And ultimately what we call human
beings will become what's Tyner refers
[1:29:30] to as the lowest ranking angels.
[1:29:32] And then there's 10 that we're on
the will become the 10th hierarchy.
[1:29:36] And that this is exactly
what's going on everywhere.
[1:29:39] And that ultimately the entire
creation is what we could call
[1:29:47] a nursery for consciousness.
[1:29:50] It is God growing its
own self-realization.
[1:29:55] And this is why I love the
first principle of Sufism.
[1:30:00] It's like, you know, the Sufis figured
it out because their first principle is.
[1:30:04] There is no God, but God I
worship everything and everyone.
[1:30:09] And when you have the kind of
realizations I have, one of the
[1:30:11] funniest jokes God plays is people
looking for God, I've got news for you.
[1:30:16] You're wearing it.
[1:30:17] Yeah, you are.
[1:30:17] You're
[1:30:18] eating it.
[1:30:18] You're breathing it.
[1:30:19] Yeah.
[1:30:19] Yeah.
[1:30:19] You're looking at it.
[1:30:21] You're walking on it, you're
shitting it, you're putting it in
[1:30:24] your garden, you're growing it.
[1:30:26] It's, there's nothing here.
[1:30:27] You're
[1:30:28] smoking
[1:30:28] it.
[1:30:28] You're smoking it.
[1:30:29] Cheers.
[1:30:29] Thanks for the reminder.
[1:30:31] There's nothing here but God.
[1:30:33] Right, and And the function of evil
is to uphold the good because, well,
[1:30:39] the contrast.
[1:30:40] Yeah.
[1:30:40] Well, you see, you can't
have consciousness unless
[1:30:42] you have a relative opposite.
[1:30:44] You can't know good without
bad north, without south in
[1:30:47] without, out good, without evil.
[1:30:49] So God is so brave.
[1:30:52] God will explore its own negative
potentials with just as much
[1:30:56] commitment as its positive potentials.
[1:30:58] And within any group of souls, there's
always the negative polarity holders.
[1:31:02] And their job is to create the stress
to make sure that we don't get too
[1:31:07] happy and too calm to stop growing.
[1:31:09] Well, that's the challenge.
[1:31:10] And that's it.
[1:31:12] Yeah.
[1:31:12] I mean, I guess there's
no growth substitute.
[1:31:13] There's no growth stimulant like
pain, and God knows that too.
[1:31:16] Yeah.
[1:31:16] Yeah.
[1:31:17] That's why I call the pain teacher.
[1:31:18] When you're not paying attention,
the pain teacher comes to inspire
[1:31:22] you to wake
[1:31:22] up
[1:31:23] and it'll tap you on the shoulder.
[1:31:24] And if you don't listen, it'll knock
you on the head, and then it'll push
[1:31:27] you off the clear fold and that'll
[1:31:28] remove your head.
[1:31:29] It'll take it off,
[1:31:30] and then you figure it out and you
go, oh my God, I missed the boat.
[1:31:33] I gotta go try it again.
[1:31:34] And that's what's really going on.
[1:31:37] And you know, God's got the
wickedest sense of humor.
[1:31:41] The things I've seen
just are unbelievable.
[1:31:44] I mean, I've laughed and cried so hard.
[1:31:46] It took me days to get over the muscle
pain from hours of just crying my eyes
[1:31:51] out because of all the pain that God's
willing to go through as human beings
[1:31:54] and animals and everything else, but
also the humor and the joy behind it.
[1:32:00] You know, you realize that God
is a paradox top to bottom.
[1:32:04] And if you can't handle a paradox,
then you have to fall into a
[1:32:07] belief system, which gives you
permission to stop asking questions.
[1:32:10] And that's the problem with
people is they're inherently lazy.
[1:32:14] So every ism.
[1:32:17] Cult, which religions are largely cults,
is an excuse to just let somebody else
[1:32:23] tell you what's true so you can stop doing
the work of asking is it really true?
[1:32:28] And then, and then, 'cause
that's the difference between the
[1:32:32] belief and the knowing, isn't it?
[1:32:33] Well, the knowing is,
comes only from experience.
[1:32:36] And, and so I don't care if people say
that I'm crazy, I don't give a shit.
[1:32:40] I know what I've experienced, and unlike
a lot of people, I've been brave enough
[1:32:46] to find the edges of myself repeatedly
and keep penetrating and, and really have
[1:32:56] a visceral inner sense of what is real.
[1:32:59] And ultimately, there's nothing
more real than what you perceive.
[1:33:02] Perception is reality, right?
[1:33:05] If you tell me that you're hot
in this room and I say, quit
[1:33:08] bullshitting, you can't be hot.
[1:33:10] It's not that hot in here, then I'm an
idiot because I'm denying your experience
[1:33:14] opposite.
[1:33:14] Yeah.
[1:33:14] You
[1:33:15] know?
[1:33:15] So if you, if you, whatever you tell me
is my patient, I know is real for you.
[1:33:21] But if it doesn't interface with the
reality you're in, it's gonna cause pain.
[1:33:25] And so my job as a therapist
is to help you see where your
[1:33:28] own projected limitations are.
[1:33:30] Where your traumas are, where
your perception is distorted.
[1:33:34] And my definition of reality is reality is
what supports you from moment to moment.
[1:33:38] You can't get by without food.
[1:33:40] You can't get by without water.
[1:33:41] You can't get by without air.
[1:33:42] You can't get by without love
and relationships and reality is
[1:33:47] also what's happening right now.
[1:33:50] So most of my patients are
suffering from belief systems
[1:33:53] that are contradictory to reality.
[1:33:56] And if you look at what's going on in the
world right now, we're destroying nature.
[1:34:00] We're destroying the very
reality that we depend upon.
[1:34:03] So we have a patient that's traumatized
very badly and has to wake up to the
[1:34:08] fact that it's committing suicide.
[1:34:11] And so if the people of the world
were considered to be cells in a
[1:34:17] body, then the patient needs help.
[1:34:20] And, and I started Spirit Jim to guide
people through the healing work that
[1:34:24] I've studied, practiced and learned and
used to help thousands of people heal
[1:34:30] and be reconnected to reality so that
they can focus on creating more love
[1:34:35] and freedom in their life, regardless
of what everybody else is doing.
[1:34:39] Because if you don't have the bravery
to be free, then you will never be free.
[1:34:45] I'm conscious of time.
[1:34:46] I wanna hear about Spirit Gym.
[1:34:47] You've gotta go, but I want you to give
it a, give it a good wrap because, um,
[1:34:51] well Spirit, it's, it's an exciting
[1:34:52] Yeah.
[1:34:52] Spirit gym's really the
magnum opus of my work.
[1:34:55] Um, it's a membership based program.
[1:34:59] It's based on the 15 volumes
of the Spirit Jim book series.
[1:35:04] It's based on 10 key principles, one being
the principle of being two, the principle
[1:35:09] of duality, which is the basis of mind.
[1:35:12] Three, the principle of the holy trinity
and how source as pure potential manifests
[1:35:19] itself through spirit and matter.
[1:35:23] So we all have that built into us.
[1:35:25] The four is the principle of embodiment
and the four elements and the system
[1:35:29] of alchemy that I developed for healing
yourself and understanding reality.
[1:35:35] Uh, the principle of the four
doctors, which I teach Dr.
[1:35:39] Happiness, Dr Diet, Dr. Quiet doctor,
movement, the four phases of love.
[1:35:44] Unconditional love becomes
embodied as sex and violence.
[1:35:47] Love, which becomes conditional
love, which becomes empathetic
[1:35:49] and compassionate love.
[1:35:50] And then you can choose nirvana
if you get evolved enough and
[1:35:54] then you're back to source again.
[1:35:56] Um, the principle of the five, which
is dealing with the challenge of
[1:36:01] any process on the hero's journey.
[1:36:04] So how do you make it through the
challenge phase, which is usually
[1:36:07] when you need a mentor or a guide
to teach you how to learn what you
[1:36:11] need to learn to finish your hero's
journey and really become who you are.
[1:36:17] Um, and I teach the five most important
things you have to know about how to
[1:36:21] design a healing program or a exercise
program so that it actually works.
[1:36:26] So there's five key principles.
[1:36:28] The six principle of the six is
the six foundation principles I
[1:36:32] teach nutrition, hydration, sleep.
[1:36:33] Those are the feminine breathing
thinking and movement or the masculine.
[1:36:37] If you don't understand those,
you'll never be healthy.
[1:36:39] The principle of the seven is the seven
chakras, the soul and the spirit, and
[1:36:43] how, what is spirit, what is soul?
[1:36:46] How do these chakras work?
[1:36:47] And how is it that we have a spirit and a
soul that manifests in the physical body?
[1:36:51] And how do, how do you work with your
soul to get guidance and have your
[1:36:56] own personal relationship with God?
[1:36:58] Principle of the eight is self-reflection.
[1:37:00] How do you use your capacity to
self-reflect, to look at the choices
[1:37:04] you're making, the beliefs you've had, the
challenges and relationships, and identify
[1:37:09] where you can do better and choose to do
it, to create freedom for yourself and
[1:37:12] everybody you share relationships with.
[1:37:15] The principle of the nine
is a new state of being.
[1:37:18] Now that you've achieved this new
level of consciousness, how do you
[1:37:21] keep from falling off the wagon?
[1:37:23] The principle of the 10
is a new level of being.
[1:37:26] So now that you've completed one cycle
of the hero's journey, how do you
[1:37:29] rest introspect, dream and intuit to
call forth your next hero's journey
[1:37:36] for the next stage of your evolution?
[1:37:39] So it's a system of education that
takes you through a healing process
[1:37:42] and an understanding of these 10
principles, and me giving you a lesson
[1:37:47] each week and then answering questions.
[1:37:50] And helping people in the audience
use the benefits of my life experience
[1:37:54] as a therapist and a life coach.
[1:37:56] And I have several mentors that
will also be helping and I will have
[1:38:00] guest mentors that are experts in
key areas that come give lectures
[1:38:04] on some sort of a regular basis.
[1:38:06] And the goal is that we all take
responsibility for healing and
[1:38:11] creating freedom within ourselves
and going out into the world and
[1:38:14] exemplifying to people that we can
live in harmony with each other.
[1:38:18] That we can live in harmony with nature,
that we can use natural principles.
[1:38:22] And you can, you can use the best of
ancient wisdom and modern science to
[1:38:26] produce viable outcome that gives our
children a, a chance for a future.
[1:38:32] And what forum is that in?
[1:38:34] It's, it's, it's online.
[1:38:35] It's online?
[1:38:36] Yeah.
[1:38:36] Is it live?
[1:38:37] It's all live.
[1:38:37] It's live, yeah.
[1:38:38] Online.
[1:38:39] But all the lessons are recorded.
[1:38:41] Yeah.
[1:38:41] So there's about 60 hours and
I'll be, keep adding them.
[1:38:44] There's about 60 hours of recorded
lessons that you get with your membership
[1:38:49] that take you through all the healing
exercises and give you all the knowledge
[1:38:52] and explorations that correlate to the
chapters of the 15 volume book set.
[1:38:58] Um, and then you can use the books to go
deeper than I can take people through.
[1:39:02] 'cause the books are quite
deep and well referenced.
[1:39:05] So, uh, the books are for the people
that want to deep dive, but the lessons
[1:39:09] are for, um, anybody that wants to
heal and learn these key principles
[1:39:13] and how to apply them in their life so
they can develop their own relationship
[1:39:17] with God and their own spirituality.
[1:39:20] And also have a tribe of people that
share similar values and who are
[1:39:24] ready to really take responsibility
for their own growing up, waking up,
[1:39:29] growing up, cleaning up and showing up.
[1:39:31] Really,
[1:39:32] it's uh, one of my favorite words.
[1:39:33] Tribe.
[1:39:34] Yeah.
[1:39:34] 'cause COVID certainly helped
people find their tribe.
[1:39:36] Yeah.
[1:39:37] Yeah.
[1:39:37] That's a whole other conversation.
[1:39:38] Yeah.
[1:39:38] And tell me one last question,
um, Paul, what, how in, in terms
[1:39:42] of the investment people make in
that, what, how does that work?
[1:39:45] Is it, is it sort of,
[1:39:46] uh, it's, it's 2,400 for the year,
uh, which includes access to all the
[1:39:53] lessons and you get the weekly lessons
from me live, and then you get to spend
[1:39:58] 60 to 90 minutes with me each week
to ask any question in the audience.
[1:40:04] And then I give you guidance
or tell you which lessons
[1:40:06] we'll address that challenge.
[1:40:08] So you get four meetings a week that
are ultimately about two to two and
[1:40:12] a half hours long, and you get over
60 hours of training and you get the
[1:40:19] guest mentors, you get a PDF copy
of how to eat, move and be Healthy.
[1:40:24] If you're a member, you get each edition
of Spirit Gym on Kindle as part of
[1:40:28] your membership when it comes out.
[1:40:29] So you have the deeper stuff.
[1:40:32] And so really what I did is I
put everything that I do with
[1:40:36] my private clients that pay me.
[1:40:38] You know, I'm an expensive guy to see.
[1:40:40] It's seven 50 an hour for my consulting.
[1:40:43] And if you watch the testimonials,
there's a lot of people that have worked
[1:40:46] with me on the, on the testimonials so
you can get a sense of what happens.
[1:40:50] And um, so really for like peanuts
on the dollar compared to working
[1:40:57] with me privately, you can take
advantage of everything that people
[1:41:00] have paid me a lot of money to
learn and, and go through to heal.
[1:41:04] And you've got your first
session this afternoon.
[1:41:06] It's today.
[1:41:07] You gotta get organized for that.
[1:41:08] Um, Paul, so many more questions.
[1:41:10] A whole list I didn't really
even get to, but that's fine.
[1:41:13] Well, I'll come back.
[1:41:14] Well, I'll, I'll, I'm gonna come back,
um, and I wanna do a little q and a
[1:41:18] and some things we might, if you're
okay with it, might have to do a little
[1:41:20] quick one on a Zoom or a whatever.
[1:41:23] Yeah, we can do it.
[1:41:23] I had to go at, at some
[1:41:24] point.
[1:41:24] You have to go now.
[1:41:25] No, no, not now.
[1:41:25] But in the future we
might try and line up.
[1:41:28] No problem.
[1:41:28] I'm just oozing with more questions.
[1:41:30] Yeah.
[1:41:31] Um, Paul, that's been fascinating.
[1:41:33] You've blown my head off.
[1:41:34] Oh good.
[1:41:34] Well I've been thinking so much about it.
[1:41:36] I love the whole idea of, um,
spirit Gym and it's a, it's a
[1:41:39] culmination of 40 years of your work.
[1:41:41] Work.
[1:41:42] Yeah.
[1:41:42] And you got an overview of it right there.
[1:41:44] Right here.
[1:41:44] That's it.
[1:41:45] So we, so people go to, um,
website, my spirit gym.com.
[1:41:50] Awesome.
[1:41:51] We'll put all the details
in the show notes and then
[1:41:53] you got my podcast too.
[1:41:54] So that's, uh, spirit Gym with Paul.
[1:41:57] Check.
[1:41:57] Yeah.
[1:41:57] Used to be living four D, but
Spirit Gym with Paul Check.
[1:42:01] And the lowest level of Spirit
Gym is the podcast membership
[1:42:04] where you get the extended play.
[1:42:06] Mm-hmm.
[1:42:06] On my podcast, which I'll be
start putting in spirit gym
[1:42:10] concepts more consistently now.
[1:42:12] So for anybody that wants a sample
that can't afford the really, what is a
[1:42:17] mentorship, they can start with the Spirit
Gym podcast, which is only 7 99 a month.
[1:42:22] Awesome.
[1:42:23] So I'm gonna do, um, a
subscription as well.
[1:42:26] We've already, we are doing
one, um, but a new one.
[1:42:29] And that's one of the reasons
why I wanted to try and track it
[1:42:31] down and do a little 20 minute
session on a topic of your choice.
[1:42:35] Okay.
[1:42:35] And we would just do a bit of a
deep dive for our subscribers.
[1:42:38] Okay.
[1:42:38] Paul, that was fascinating.
[1:42:39] Um, and so, uh, appreciate and
grateful for your time, you
[1:42:43] and your, your conversation.
[1:42:45] Thank you.
[1:42:45] And your patience as well.
[1:42:47] Um, and we'll catch up again.
[1:42:49] Awesome.
[1:42:49] Very soon.
[1:42:50] Thanks, buddy.
[1:42:50] That was so good.
[1:42:52] Thank you.
[1:42:52] Don't stop doing what you're doing.
[1:42:53] Okay.
[1:42:53] I don't, I don't, I don't have
any you desire to do any else?
[1:42:56] You've got another, you've
got another 41 years in you.
[1:42:57] I'll, I'll just go tell my soul says,
it's time to leave your work's done.
[1:43:01] Is that a question you probably
don't wanna ask your soul?
[1:43:05] I do.
[1:43:05] And my soul has told me that I will
probably be here till I'm 78 at, uh,
[1:43:13] to, to give my kids the knowledge
they both came here to do world work.
[1:43:16] So my soul says, uh, at
least to when, about 78.
[1:43:21] Um.
[1:43:23] And then it'll be time for me to leave.
[1:43:26] But my soul said that my work will
be used by many generations after me.
[1:43:29] You'll leave our, we didn't
even get to reincarnation.
[1:43:31] That's next time.
[1:43:32] Yeah, no, lots of stuff.
[1:43:33] And you can also mention
the Czech Institute 'cause
[1:43:35] there's lots of stuff there.
[1:43:36] Absolutely.
[1:43:37] That'll be in the, in
the shout notes as well.
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[1:44:32] Mm-hmm.
[1:44:32] Today.
[1:44:33] Um, we're set up here.
[1:44:35] Again, Penny's been amazing just
getting everything sector 'cause set up.
[1:44:38] 'cause I'm so, she's a,
I'm not a tech head, a
[1:44:40] tech wizard.
[1:44:41] Mm. She's done well.
[1:44:42] Um, and this session, if you are
listening to this, it's because you are
[1:44:46] a very, um, supportive subscriber to
the regenerative journey Plus thing.
[1:44:54] I'm always out of, out of focus, which
is probably a good thing my guests.
[1:44:58] Tend to be the ones that people wanna
make sure Is you and Fergus there?
[1:45:01] Is that, is that as good as image of Paul?
[1:45:04] Check as we will ever get?
[1:45:05] That's probably about as good as it gets.
[1:45:07] Okay.
[1:45:08] I'm, I'm a little bit blurred
that, that's probably a good thing.
[1:45:10] Um, so this is just a bit of a this,
because, because the, the interview
[1:45:14] we did that goes to everyone was
fantastic and I didn't want to chop
[1:45:18] into it 'cause there was so much to it.
[1:45:20] Thank you.
[1:45:21] Um, so this session is really about
whatever you wanna talk about.
[1:45:26] I, on my drive down here through the,
that phenomenal LA traffic I, I battled.
[1:45:33] Um, uh, I was thinking what I think
what would be great value for me and
[1:45:39] our listeners and watches is if you
were to, and this could go anywhere of
[1:45:42] course, let us know kind of what are
some of the, um, the tips and tricks,
[1:45:52] if I can use that expression for,
[1:45:55] uh, have good smoke.
[1:45:55] Have a good smoke
[1:45:57] that's just not in,
that's not any old smoke.
[1:45:59] No, it's,
[1:46:00] that's special.
[1:46:01] It's not even smoke, it's water vapor,
but it's, uh, it's a hopped up dehydrator
[1:46:07] that pushes hot air through herbs and
I put flour essences and essential oils
[1:46:13] and organic herbs and clean tobacco.
[1:46:18] So it, it's really just,
it's just water vapor.
[1:46:21] Yeah.
[1:46:21] It looks like smoke, but there's
really no smoke in there at all.
[1:46:24] Yep.
[1:46:25] I'm not one who's big
on torturing his body.
[1:46:29] No.
[1:46:30] And when you say clean
tobacco, that's No chemicals.
[1:46:33] No chemicals.
[1:46:34] So organically grown.
[1:46:35] I,
[1:46:35] I, I don't know for sure, it's
organically grown, but I did a lot
[1:46:39] of research to find a company that
grows tobacco without chemicals.
[1:46:43] Um, and I found the stock Abe
Corporation was the place to go.
[1:46:48] I did, there are organic tobacco
suppliers, but they don't make nearly
[1:46:53] as nice a tasting tobacco as that.
[1:46:56] I did a lot of research and found that
this particular one, which is called
[1:46:59] Northern Shag, has the lowest shag.
[1:47:01] Yeah.
[1:47:02] It comes from, um, Denmark and it, and it
has the least amount of nicotine in it.
[1:47:07] Yeah, right.
[1:47:07] Because I get very easily
addicted to nicotine.
[1:47:10] Mm. And even though you're vaporizing,
it still pulls nicotine out of it.
[1:47:13] The vaporizer only goes to 450 degrees
a cigarette burns different articles,
[1:47:18] say between 800 and 1200 degrees.
[1:47:20] So you'll get a full liberation of
nicotine if you light tobacco on fire.
[1:47:24] Mm.
[1:47:25] But because this thing doesn't get that
hot, and I don't run it at full heat, I
[1:47:28] run it at probably around 400 degrees.
[1:47:32] And with this low nicotine tobacco,
I can vaporize it as much as I want.
[1:47:36] And if I stop doing it, you know,
'cause I have to travel or something,
[1:47:40] I don't, I don't have any withdrawal.
[1:47:42] Mm-hmm.
[1:47:42] But if I do any, like, uh, a lot
of my friends, like the, uh, snuffs
[1:47:48] that you snort tobacco powders and
they're super strong and within 15
[1:47:54] minutes I feel like I'm crashing.
[1:47:55] Yeah.
[1:47:56] And the same thing, if I smoke any
tobacco at all, I go up and I feel
[1:48:02] a really nice, clear-headed buzz.
[1:48:05] But then 15 minutes or so later
I feel like I'm going into like
[1:48:08] a withdrawal and I just do not
want to get addicted to anything.
[1:48:13] Have you, did you smoke
when you were a young man?
[1:48:16] Like, there, there
[1:48:17] was a period when I, when I was working
in, um, the logging industry that I
[1:48:23] smoked for about, uh, maybe six months.
[1:48:28] But I was very competitive
with all my buddies.
[1:48:32] And when I found out that all of a
sudden they were able to, to get more,
[1:48:36] we used to, at that point we were
doing logging for shakes, which is
[1:48:42] Cedar shakes, you know, for roofing.
[1:48:44] So we were going in and, and we had,
uh, I was with a friend of mine who
[1:48:49] had the rights to a certain chunk
of land that he'd got government
[1:48:53] rights to in the mountains.
[1:48:56] And we would go, fall the trees and
then cut them into about 16 inch blocks.
[1:49:02] And, you know, then
we'd have to split 'em.
[1:49:04] 'cause some of these trees are
like eight feet across at the
[1:49:06] butt and, you know, 160 feet tall.
[1:49:10] And then we'd use wedges to split them
and we would be carrying chunks of wood
[1:49:16] out that were probably, you know, as, as
big as you could carry, they'd probably
[1:49:20] weigh about 90 to 130 pounds each.
[1:49:23] So we used to compete so you could carry
the most and we'd have to stack 'em in
[1:49:27] a big truck to deliver 'em to the mill.
[1:49:31] And after smoking for a while, I
couldn't keep up with these guys.
[1:49:34] And it pissed me off so bad.
[1:49:35] I just dropped it and,
and I never went back.
[1:49:38] That's funny.
[1:49:39] Um,
[1:49:41] let me think there.
[1:49:43] I saw on, on a video online the
other day of, uh, a machine that,
[1:49:47] that was probably doing that very
thing they putting in a block.
[1:49:50] Mm-hmm.
[1:49:50] And it was a guillotine It was
going, yeah, it was automated.
[1:49:53] Yeah.
[1:49:53] And it were these perfect, I
guess we might call 'em shingles.
[1:49:57] Shingles.
[1:49:57] Shingles.
[1:49:58] Shingles are, are thinner.
[1:50:01] Mm.
[1:50:01] And smaller shakes are about
a centimeter or so thick.
[1:50:06] Oh yeah.
[1:50:06] And they're probably about double
the size and length of, of a shingle.
[1:50:12] Shingle.
[1:50:12] So where do they go in a house?
[1:50:13] Uh, they, they're the same.
[1:50:15] They just, you, you different,
they're just, it's different style.
[1:50:18] It looks a little bit more old
fashioned, a little more rustic.
[1:50:21] And they probably last longer
'cause there's more wood to them.
[1:50:24] Yeah.
[1:50:25] Right.
[1:50:25] So you, you have companies that
make shakes and make shingles.
[1:50:29] Oh, you, this is on Vancouver Island
when I was, you know, 17 years old maybe.
[1:50:34] Mm-hmm.
[1:50:35] So that wasn't that long ago.
[1:50:37] That was quite a while ago.
[1:50:39] How old would those trees have
been that, that eight foot diamond?
[1:50:42] That's a pretty,
[1:50:43] they would've been, that's
a pretty 500 plus years old.
[1:50:45] I wish I would've known at the time
if I would've had the consciousness
[1:50:49] to realize what I was doing.
[1:50:50] I wouldn't have been cutting
trees down like that.
[1:50:52] Wow.
[1:50:53] But
[1:50:54] it's a job
[1:50:54] I didn't know any better and
it was just working to make
[1:50:58] a living and feed my family.
[1:50:59] And yeah, looking back on it,
it makes me cringe of all the
[1:51:02] beautiful trees I cut down.
[1:51:04] But you, you know, you
grow up and you learn
[1:51:08] hemps quite a, um, uh, I did
some research recently on hemp.
[1:51:13] Mm-hmm.
[1:51:13] In Australia.
[1:51:14] It's not taking off, but there's
certainly a lot of research in terms
[1:51:17] of a, um, an alternative to, to timber
for it is construction and, and even
[1:51:22] the molding they can do and the.
[1:51:24] This, it's really, well,
[1:51:26] there was a huge hemp industry in the
United States, but Rockefeller shut it
[1:51:30] down because he didn't want anything
to compete with his oil-based products.
[1:51:33] Exactly.
[1:51:34] Yeah.
[1:51:34] So the reality of it is growing hemp,
we could leave the forest untouched.
[1:51:40] And hemp, as you're probably aware, not
only makes a wide variety of medicinal
[1:51:45] molecules, but can be used for textile.
[1:51:48] I got, these shoes I'm
wearing are made of hemp.
[1:51:51] And that I believe is the, um,
because is the, it's the stalk spark.
[1:51:56] It's the stalk.
[1:51:57] The
[1:51:57] stalk, okay.
[1:51:58] Yeah, because there's, there's other
stuff you can make with the, the outside
[1:52:01] of the, like the bark, I guess it is.
[1:52:03] Is that right?
[1:52:04] I'm not sure.
[1:52:05] All the thing hemp is so versatile.
[1:52:07] It's mind blowing and you literally could
completely eliminate the lumber industry
[1:52:12] 'cause they can actually compress it and
make the equivalent of, of two by fours
[1:52:16] and all the things we use to build houses,
I mean it would literally take, you can
[1:52:20] make everything you do at a lumber with
it and you can make probably multiple
[1:52:27] hundreds of different molecules that come
out of the hemp plant of medicinal types.
[1:52:34] And you've also got the oil,
which has got a lot of therapeutic
[1:52:37] and nutritional benefits.
[1:52:39] So it's one of these miraculous products.
[1:52:42] But due to the nefarious forces
that got ahold of all of us and
[1:52:47] still do have us by the throat, um.
[1:52:51] Hemp farming kind of was
forced into disappearance.
[1:52:57] And uh, I, I would love to see it
make a, a comeback for things other
[1:53:00] than just marijuana, you know?
[1:53:02] 'cause 'cause it's
'cause it's so versatile.
[1:53:05] It, it, it would, it would really change
our relationship with the environment.
[1:53:10] 'cause if, you know, I'm sure you
know that the logging industry is just
[1:53:13] totally destructive to the environment.
[1:53:16] Well, in Victoria, in, in Australia,
I know, I was talking to a
[1:53:19] fellow the other day about it.
[1:53:20] He's trying to convince, and he, and
he probably never will be able to
[1:53:24] the Victorian government who are big
supporters of the logging industry
[1:53:27] in Victoria, which was, um, you know,
it's a state with a lot of natural
[1:53:32] resource, you, you might call it that.
[1:53:33] Yeah.
[1:53:34] And he was wanting them to redeploy
the idle logging equipment.
[1:53:39] Mm-hmm.
[1:53:40] Basically, it wouldn't be a one for one
type of thing, but say, um, which is a
[1:53:44] sitting idle in a lot of cases to then
be utilized for in the hemp industry.
[1:53:50] Um, different product and
different, similar machinery.
[1:53:54] But it could be redeployed in
some way and they're just going
[1:53:56] No, because they're somewhat
beholden to the forestry industry.
[1:54:02] Yeah.
[1:54:02] So they wouldn't want to, they
wouldn't wanna encourage the
[1:54:04] No, the, you know, the, um, no,
[1:54:06] the lumber industry is
a, is a, a big industry.
[1:54:09] It's, it's like, you know, it's, it's its
own mafia, you know, so that's why they're
[1:54:16] not gonna let hemp be grown because
unless they become the hemp growers Yeah.
[1:54:20] They're gonna lose billions
and billions of dollars.
[1:54:24] But that's, isn't that just
a disease that has the world?
[1:54:26] Right.
[1:54:27] It's one of many examples, isn't it?
[1:54:28] It's money instead of, uh,
you know, sustainability.
[1:54:32] And Henry Ford built
a whole car out of it,
[1:54:35] didn't he?
[1:54:36] I don't know about that,
but I wouldn't doubt it.
[1:54:38] I mean, you, like I said, you know,
I've looked into it and you, you
[1:54:41] can make so many things outta hemp.
[1:54:43] It's crazy.
[1:54:45] It's really versatile.
[1:54:48] Let, let's bring it back to you.
[1:54:51] Um, yeah, so tips and, you know, like
things that you might recommend, um,
[1:54:57] people do, and I'm thinking almost
chronologically through a day.
[1:55:01] Mm-hmm.
[1:55:01] You know, because there are, you know,
one thing that's obvious, and not just
[1:55:06] because I've been in the States for
the last month, but, you know, my, my
[1:55:10] curiosity with, uh, and I follow a lot
of different people, whether it's about
[1:55:14] diet, you know, nutrition or whether it's
lifestyle, whether it's, you know, call
[1:55:18] it self-development, call it spiritual,
sort of, you know, transformation.
[1:55:22] There are so many, it's
confusing and overwhelming.
[1:55:26] The for, for people to sort
of go, go, okay, well I don't
[1:55:30] know what's best for me.
[1:55:31] And obviously, you know, I listen to
one of your podcasts on the way up here.
[1:55:34] With that lady whose name is Coach
who, who wrote the book about,
[1:55:37] um, you know, vegan, vegetarian.
[1:55:39] Oh, Jane Buxton.
[1:55:40] Yeah.
[1:55:41] Oh, fantastic.
[1:55:42] That's great.
[1:55:42] So good.
[1:55:43] And she's an amazing woman.
[1:55:44] Yeah.
[1:55:45] Well she's, you know, she's done the
research, um, and instead of endless
[1:55:49] amount, but that's my point is that for
someone to go kinda make some decisions
[1:55:54] and they, they may have at least got
to the point of acknowledging that
[1:55:56] they need that it would be in their
interest to change lifestyle things.
[1:56:01] Habits, yeah.
[1:56:02] Um, which is most
[1:56:03] everybody's,
[1:56:04] which is Yeah, that's right.
[1:56:05] Everyone you'd like to
think would at some point.
[1:56:07] Yeah.
[1:56:07] Uh, what is the next step, you know,
like how do they assess what they need
[1:56:12] and then, and then action or execute
on their sleep, their, their, their
[1:56:17] nutrition, nutrition requirements,
their, the direction they want to
[1:56:22] take their life, you know, how to
develop a relationship with their soul.
[1:56:26] I mean, yeah, this whole
podcast series in itself.
[1:56:29] But what are some of the things
that you could say, you would
[1:56:32] say, look, here's the top picker
number five things, or 10 things.
[1:56:37] Well,
[1:56:37] I, I don't remember if we talked
about this in our podcast together
[1:56:41] when you were last here, but I,
because here's how this came about.
[1:56:50] By the time.
[1:56:52] Check professionals are in their fourth
year of training the academy's five years,
[1:56:56] but it used to be a four year program.
[1:56:58] We had to stretch it out just
'cause it was overwhelming students.
[1:57:02] But by the time they're at the
fourth year, they can do assessments
[1:57:09] on somebody eight hours straight
because they have learned so much.
[1:57:14] You know, we, we assess
the entire structure.
[1:57:16] We assess the glands and the organs.
[1:57:19] We assess their developmental history
from the, from in utero and the
[1:57:26] environment that the parents were in
to, uh, traumas throughout life to
[1:57:31] challenges through transitions such
as deaths in the family, divorces,
[1:57:37] loss of businesses, and, you know,
anything that has a significant impact
[1:57:41] on the development of the individual.
[1:57:43] And
[1:57:46] so there's, it's a very, very
comprehensive evaluation.
[1:57:49] It's probably more comprehensive
than anywhere in the world.
[1:57:52] And the problem that occurred around
in the early two thousands is some of
[1:57:57] my top instructors and students that
were very, you know, skilled people.
[1:58:02] One of the Nat Matthew Wags, a
naturopathic and osteopathic physician,
[1:58:06] and he was, when he started training
with me 27 years ago, he's my
[1:58:10] director of education now, but they
came to me and said, Paul, you know,
[1:58:14] we're a bit overwhelmed because.
[1:58:18] We find so much stuff wrong with
people and oftentimes there's like
[1:58:23] 10 or 15 or more 20 things all that
could be considered to be serious.
[1:58:27] You know?
[1:58:28] 'cause people are in bad shape out there.
[1:58:30] And so, um, they said, what we don't
understand is how do you take all this
[1:58:36] information and synthesize it down
in, in, into a program knowing that
[1:58:41] you're doing what's the most important
thing to do for a client first?
[1:58:46] Because how do you, how do you deal with
someone who's hurt, tired, struggling,
[1:58:54] yet you've got enough information to
write a very, very comprehensive program.
[1:58:59] You can have these people doing stretches,
exercise, diet, and lifestyle changes
[1:59:02] all day long for months, you know?
[1:59:04] And so I took what was an internal
process for me, which I kind of felt
[1:59:10] embarrassed because these guys had
been training with me all these years
[1:59:13] and I assumed it was fairly obvious.
[1:59:16] And I, you know, uh, by this time
they had, uh, so it must have been
[1:59:21] around 2004 because my book, how
Eat, move and Be Healthy was Out.
[1:59:26] But in a long story made short,
what I did is I sat down and I
[1:59:32] wrote down my own inner process and
that became the four doctor model.
[1:59:37] So what I did is I developed
a four step process.
[1:59:41] It can be used by a lay person or
it can be used by the most advanced
[1:59:45] medical professionals There is,
and it still works the same.
[1:59:50] It's just the depth that you go into.
[1:59:51] It changes depending on the skill level
and the amount of data you gather.
[1:59:57] And this will answer your question.
[1:59:59] So the first thing that I have to do
whenever I'm working with a patient or
[2:00:04] a client that needs help, and this is
the first thing everybody needs to do,
[2:00:12] we start with number one in my system.
[2:00:14] That's one love.
[2:00:16] What do you love enough to change for, to
grow for and to get your heart in what?
[2:00:22] Get your heart involved in it.
[2:00:24] So in a general theme we call
that, what is your dream?
[2:00:28] So if you came to me, say, with chronic
back pain, I'd say, Charles, well what
[2:00:32] is your dream for coming to see me?
[2:00:34] And if that's not clear, what would
be your specific goal or objective?
[2:00:39] And then I would qualify that.
[2:00:42] I say that if it's not at least a seven
out of 10 for I'm inspired and motivated
[2:00:48] to do this, it means we don't have a
good enough dream goal or objective.
[2:00:52] Because without a a, a clearly defined
dream goal or objective, there's
[2:00:57] nothing to create a sense of levity
that overcomes the inertia of the habits
[2:01:02] and the behaviors that led to the.
[2:01:05] Uh, issues that people get stuck with.
[2:01:09] Um, remember, 85% of all orthopedic
injuries are idiopathic, which means
[2:01:17] when the patient goes to the doctor
and says, how did you hurt yourself?
[2:01:22] They don't know.
[2:01:22] Mm. They don't have, they
didn't fall off a ladder.
[2:01:25] They didn't lift up a
suitcase in the airport.
[2:01:28] They just don't know.
[2:01:30] So what that tells you is that these
things are progressively, um, coming
[2:01:35] on and they're chronic things that are,
you know, it's, it's just like, you
[2:01:42] know, a mosquito sucking your blood.
[2:01:44] One or two won't get you, but 500 will.
[2:01:47] So if you say, what are all the mistakes
people are making on a daily basis and
[2:01:52] you add 'em all up, well, it's enough
to cause so much stress that the body
[2:01:55] cannot effectively respond to it.
[2:01:58] So no matter who it is, there's
always lots of these things going on.
[2:02:04] So I have to say, what is it that you
love enough to change for, to, to manage
[2:02:07] yourself well, for, to make the diet and
the lifestyle changes that will bring you
[2:02:12] into a state where you have enough healing
energy, anabolic energy to recover.
[2:02:17] But, and, and to grow into what it is
that you choose to be or do with yourself.
[2:02:23] Like for, if you said to me,
I've gotta run my farm, and
[2:02:27] that's very important to me.
[2:02:29] And, uh, yes, my heart is into it.
[2:02:31] I would say, well, that's a really
good dream goal or objective.
[2:02:34] So if we don't establish that, then what
I found out is that no matter how good
[2:02:40] the program is, no matter how good the
supplements you give them are, it, it
[2:02:45] never works because people have got so
many unconscious habit patterns, and
[2:02:52] a lot of them are reactions to stress.
[2:02:54] So you get things like a
lot of coffee drinking.
[2:02:57] You get, uh, drinking alcohol,
you get recreational drugs, you
[2:03:01] get distractions with video games,
with television, social media.
[2:03:06] And that's because of a person,
consciously or unconsciously creates
[2:03:10] a life that's not fulfilling.
[2:03:12] They actually get caught in, in a
flatland experience where like it's
[2:03:16] all they're doing is just working
to pay bills all the time, or
[2:03:19] trying to survive instead of thrive.
[2:03:22] So if a person is in that existence, then
they have to create a second reality and
[2:03:30] have a way to get out of this reality.
[2:03:32] So you see that, you know, we've got
this massive wave now of psychedelic use.
[2:03:38] We've got huge addiction problems
to, uh, video games and social media.
[2:03:43] We've had, we've got, we have
had for a long time, tremendous
[2:03:47] problems with alcohol addiction.
[2:03:49] Um, and then now we have,
you know, almost, I would say
[2:03:54] excessive use of marijuana.
[2:03:57] And now they're legalizing
mushrooms in lots of places.
[2:03:59] So what I've seen is that.
[2:04:01] As more and more of these, shall we say,
state shifting molecules become available.
[2:04:10] People go deeper and deeper into
them because they don't have a
[2:04:14] sense of direction in their life.
[2:04:15] They don't have something that inspires
them to take care of themselves.
[2:04:23] For example, if I say, Hey, here's
a pill that'll get you really high,
[2:04:25] but it'll cause a lot of back pain.
[2:04:28] Well, you as a farmer might think, well,
if it gets me high for a few hours, but
[2:04:34] then I got back pain and I can't go take
care of my farm, I'm screwing myself.
[2:04:39] So right away, you, you're, you're,
you're saying, what is important
[2:04:42] enough for me to make decisions with?
[2:04:45] Right.
[2:04:46] Without that sense of clear, a
clear sense of direction or dream
[2:04:50] or goal or objective, you don't
have any way to establish values
[2:04:55] for making effective decisions.
[2:04:57] So step one in my program is,
what do you love enough to grow
[2:05:00] for, to change, for or to become?
[2:05:04] Hmm.
[2:05:04] Step two is based on the fact
that there's only two forces that
[2:05:08] create everything in the universe.
[2:05:10] The feminine, which in Taoism or
Chinese medicine, is called yin, and
[2:05:15] that relates to the parasympathetic
nervous system, growth, accumulation,
[2:05:21] regeneration, restoration.
[2:05:22] It also links to the right
brain and to learning.
[2:05:27] So.
[2:05:29] That relates to hydration.
[2:05:30] It relates to sleep, and
it relates to nutrition.
[2:05:34] So we have the complimentary
opposite force yang.
[2:05:38] So yin multiplies power
and accumulates resources.
[2:05:42] Yang.
[2:05:43] The masculine divides power and
utilizes energy and resources.
[2:05:49] So the more things a person's doing
that are what, what's classically called
[2:05:53] catabolic, which means tissue destructive.
[2:05:56] Such work, physical labor, going to a gym,
uh, drinking coffee, um, drinking alcohol,
[2:06:05] anything that speeds the system up or
activates the sympathetic nervous system.
[2:06:09] The fight, flight, uh, nervous
system, which is what shifts the
[2:06:14] blood flow out of the organs and
glands into the musculoskeletal
[2:06:18] system to ready you for action.
[2:06:20] Like if you're nervous or you're
anxious or you're scared, that'll
[2:06:23] trigger a sympathetic reaction and
you'll, your muscles will get tighter,
[2:06:27] you'll get adrenaline flow, you'll
have a higher level of cortisol.
[2:06:31] Your sense of alertness will go up.
[2:06:33] And that's really, for example,
why people drink so much coffee.
[2:06:36] 'cause if they're not getting enough
sleep, they feel tired all the time.
[2:06:39] So they need something to
activate them and pick them up.
[2:06:43] But eventually that'll burn the
adrenal glands out because cortisol
[2:06:46] is made by the adrenal glands.
[2:06:48] And, um, so you basically have to look at.
[2:06:54] Your life in general and say, okay,
what am I doing to restore myself?
[2:07:02] So how do we restore ourself?
[2:07:03] We drink quality water.
[2:07:05] We eat clean, organically
grown or biodynamically
[2:07:09] grown food or regeneratively.
[2:07:11] We farm food or animal caught fish
because farm fish is very, very toxic.
[2:07:17] Okay?
[2:07:19] We, um, have to have
adequate amounts of sleep.
[2:07:23] And as I show in my book how to eat,
move and be healthy, you, you need
[2:07:27] to sleep in cycle with the natural
rhythms because the light is what
[2:07:31] regulates your hormonal system.
[2:07:35] And as the sun's coming up, you get
a progressive increase in cortisol,
[2:07:40] and as it goes down and cortisol
drops down, melatonin goes up.
[2:07:44] And melatonin is the trigger that
releases your anabolic hormones, which
[2:07:48] are your growth and repair hormones.
[2:07:50] So when people keep staying up late at
night and being stimulated by lights
[2:07:53] and screens, they keep their cortisol
levels up, and so they don't get to
[2:07:59] have a progressive release of melatonin.
[2:08:02] So they're staying in a sympathetic
hype hyperactivated awake state.
[2:08:08] And so the late, the longer that
goes on, the more it fatigues the
[2:08:11] adrenal glands, but the harder it is
for their body to digest, metabolize,
[2:08:15] assimilate, repair, and regenerate.
[2:08:19] So you see that there's this very, very
chronic imbalance between incoming.
[2:08:24] Nutrition and resources and rest and
outgoing resources and energy and
[2:08:31] expressing oneself in a variety of
ways, but keeping the system turned on.
[2:08:36] And so it's kind of like people
that run outta money and try
[2:08:39] to live off of credit cards.
[2:08:41] If you don't balance the autonomic
nervous system and you don't have enough
[2:08:45] incoming yin feminine resources and
energy relative to what you're utilizing
[2:08:53] from nutritional resources, um, you
know, your body's internal reserves.
[2:08:59] A good example of that is Aaron Fried
Pfeiffer, who you may be familiar from
[2:09:03] Steiner's work showed all the way back
in about 1955 based on his analysis,
[2:09:11] that by the time people were about 32
years of age, they were enzyme depleted.
[2:09:16] And so hat track that right
back to processed foods.
[2:09:20] And this is, you know, in the fifties.
[2:09:22] And so because people aren't eating
enough raw food and enough living
[2:09:26] foods, they become enzyme depleted.
[2:09:29] So when they're eating all this food
that has no enzymes in it because it's
[2:09:33] cooked or it's processed, they deplete
the enzyme stores of their bodies.
[2:09:38] And so their biochemical capacity
breaks down because enzymes are
[2:09:43] involved in pretty much every
biochemical reaction in your body.
[2:09:46] So what you see is people can.
[2:09:49] Burn their bodies out.
[2:09:50] And then when they don't have enough
enzymes to break their food down,
[2:09:53] they start having digestive trouble.
[2:09:55] And if you are hydrochloric acid
deficient, which the same people
[2:10:00] that are enzyme deficient become
hydrochloric acid deficient, then you
[2:10:04] don't have the chief means for killing
parasites, bacteria, fungal spores.
[2:10:10] And so what you see is a very high
incidence of fungal infection,
[2:10:14] bacterial dysbiosis, parasite infection,
and all of those poison the body.
[2:10:19] And all of those organisms
release chemicals.
[2:10:22] They're waste into your body.
[2:10:24] Um, many of the parasites, for example,
the as scarce worm can manipulate the
[2:10:31] cytokines and immune regulating chemicals
and actually disguise themselves.
[2:10:37] So the immune system gets shut
down by mycotoxins, it gets shut
[2:10:41] down by, uh, parasites, it gets
confused, and then they're eating
[2:10:47] the nutrition that's in the gut.
[2:10:50] And so what you get is people that
get further nutritionally, deficient
[2:10:55] further because that causes inflammation.
[2:10:58] 'cause these organisms are eating
into your tissues all the time, and
[2:11:00] that's how they lay their eggs in you.
[2:11:03] So you get global inflammation and you get
a lot of toxicity and people get tired.
[2:11:08] So they drink more and more
coffee, eat more and more sugar.
[2:11:11] They do all the things that take
'em further and further into this
[2:11:14] yang excess of spending spending.
[2:11:17] And the more inflammation you have
in the body, the more your body tries
[2:11:20] to release more and more cortisol.
[2:11:21] 'cause that's the chief
anti-inflammatory hormone.
[2:11:24] The hotter you get and the hotter you
get, the more your thermal regulatory
[2:11:28] system gets stressed because it has to
cool you down to, to keep you alive.
[2:11:34] And the body's very temperature sensitive.
[2:11:37] And so the thermo regulatory system is
probably, if not the, one of the most
[2:11:42] energy consumptive systems in the body.
[2:11:44] It, it, it requires contributions
from every part of your body.
[2:11:49] So step two then is looking at
the general balance of how am I
[2:11:56] doing with hydrating, nourishing,
and resting and relaxing my mind?
[2:12:05] Mm-hmm.
[2:12:05] Because most people today
are so outcome oriented.
[2:12:09] We've been programmed
to be outcome oriented.
[2:12:11] Everything's always about an outcome.
[2:12:14] So for example, I stack rocks to create an
environment of what I call unbound play.
[2:12:22] That way it doesn't matter if the rocks
fall over, it's just a pile of rocks.
[2:12:26] And so I can go out there and I can get
some exercise and I can be creative.
[2:12:31] But I can relax my mind and
not have to think, you know,
[2:12:34] am I performing good enough?
[2:12:35] Is, you know, like a student,
am I gonna get a good grade?
[2:12:38] Is my boss gonna complain about this?
[2:12:41] You can just completely
let go of all that.
[2:12:43] So, you know, part of what I'll share in
a minute relates to, we have to really
[2:12:49] be conscious that if we're constantly
pursuing outcomes, and we have so many
[2:12:54] internal systems of measuring ourself
all the time, then what I've found with
[2:12:59] working with thousands of patients in over
40 years is we get what is classically
[2:13:04] now referred to as control fatigue.
[2:13:07] We're trying to juggle so much and
trying to always achieve these outcomes
[2:13:10] all the time, that we get to the point
where we're so tired that we, we start
[2:13:15] giving up on the management of things.
[2:13:19] And we, there's things
that are hard to give up.
[2:13:21] Like if you, if you've got a job and
you have to perform at work to get paid,
[2:13:25] you're a lawyer or you're a, you know,
a construction worker or anybody, you
[2:13:30] know, you, you gotta do your job well.
[2:13:31] So you can't just let that
go or you'll lose your job.
[2:13:35] Although the quality of that work's
going down rapidly, as most people know.
[2:13:40] So what we start giving up on is
we start giving up on the things
[2:13:45] that we're most ignorant about
as a as, as a race, as humans.
[2:13:50] So we're pretty ignorant about food.
[2:13:52] We're pretty ignorant about water,
we're pretty ignorant about exercise.
[2:13:56] We're pretty ignorant about the
importance of sleep and sleep cycles.
[2:14:00] Um, we're, we're pretty ignorant
about the importance of rest and
[2:14:06] valuing rest versus always having
to do something all the time.
[2:14:11] We're very ignorant about
doing things that are happy
[2:14:15] making versus seeking happiness
vicariously by watching television.
[2:14:21] You know, I say life is not a spectator
sport, it's a participation sport.
[2:14:25] So the more tired people get, the
more they start being spectators.
[2:14:30] And the more time you spend in front of
screens, the more hypnotized you get.
[2:14:37] Because as soon as you start watching a
screen, you go into a state of hypnosis,
[2:14:40] which is why it's so easy to program
people when they're watching screens.
[2:14:45] And so you start becoming less and less
conscious about the choices you're making.
[2:14:49] Well, after a while, you
know, what do you got?
[2:14:52] You got an inflamed, tired body
that is malnourished, that's
[2:14:57] inflamed, like I said, inflamed.
[2:14:59] Um, that's not sleeping well, which
causes people to have cognitive problems.
[2:15:05] They can't think, well, with
all that inflammation in the
[2:15:09] gut, you get leaky gut syndrome.
[2:15:10] The next thing you know, you have,
you know, I've seen people with
[2:15:13] as many as 52 food intolerances.
[2:15:16] So they're having food reactions, immune
reactions to everything they're eating.
[2:15:20] Um, the gut's leaking, which
is another big problem.
[2:15:23] And, and so their anabolic
capacity dwindles dramatically.
[2:15:29] And so you, you find a lot of those
people will say things, well, I used
[2:15:32] to exercise, but it made me so sore,
I couldn't keep doing it because they
[2:15:36] don't have any regenerative abilities.
[2:15:37] Right?
[2:15:38] So
[2:15:41] what I'm saying in a nutshell is if
a person doesn't have, if a person
[2:15:45] wakes up in the morning and even
after eight hours of sleep, still
[2:15:48] feels tired, still feels like they
need to drink, that's a bad sign.
[2:15:52] If they need to drink coffee or tea,
if they can't get by without processed
[2:15:57] sugar, that's a very bad sign.
[2:16:01] If they have a lack of mental clarity,
that's an indication that problems are,
[2:16:06] are there, if their body is too hot.
[2:16:10] One of the ways, you know, you
can do it without a temperature
[2:16:13] gauge is, I say, how often do you
want to put ice in your drinks?
[2:16:18] If you look around, even, even here
on a winter day, you can go to any
[2:16:23] gas station and see people coming
in constantly getting huge giant
[2:16:28] cups of soda pop fold with ice.
[2:16:31] And I'm like, who would wanna
drink ice on a cold ice water on
[2:16:35] a cold day like that unless they
were already overheated inside?
[2:16:39] And you see this going
on all over the world.
[2:16:41] And so if you're overheated,
then that's not a good sign.
[2:16:47] And one of the ways you can tell is when
you have these inflammatory syndromes,
[2:16:52] people have a, and especially as
the adrenal glands begin to fatigue,
[2:16:55] people have a tendency to wake up.
[2:16:57] In the middle of the night,
usually between one and three
[2:16:59] in the morning, hot and sweaty.
[2:17:02] And they're, they end up being wide awake
and they have a hard time getting back to
[2:17:06] sleep and they usually fall asleep just
about the time they're supposed to get up.
[2:17:11] And so what you're seeing is that there's
so much heat in the body and because
[2:17:15] there's so much, um, garbage getting
into the body 'cause the immune system
[2:17:19] can't keep up and the gut's leaking.
[2:17:22] Then in the middle of the night,
they're getting a very strong cortisol
[2:17:27] release to try to counterbalance
all the inflammation in their body.
[2:17:30] And parasites have the opposite day
night cycle that, that most organisms do.
[2:17:35] So they're active.
[2:17:36] Full moon for a parasite
is like high noon for us.
[2:17:41] So at night when we're supposed to be
asleep, regenerating ourselves, if you've
[2:17:46] got a lot of fungal, fungal, uh, fungus
in you and you've got parasites in you,
[2:17:51] then what happens is they're actually
doing their busy work, boring into your
[2:17:56] body to lay their eggs and eating up your
food and making a lot of inflammation
[2:18:01] when you're supposed to be asleep.
[2:18:03] And the body picks up that
inflammation and triggers a
[2:18:05] cortisol release which wakes you up.
[2:18:08] And this progressively burns the adrenals
because the body doesn't get to go
[2:18:11] into a state of restoration at night.
[2:18:13] It's constantly working.
[2:18:15] And another thing that people do that
as a side note that's a really bad idea,
[2:18:19] is they eat big meals right before bed.
[2:18:21] And you should not do that.
[2:18:23] Because your glands and
organs cannot rest all night.
[2:18:25] And so you wake up feeling very
kind of lethargic and tired.
[2:18:30] But the other thing is, is that people
don't pay attention to the fact that your
[2:18:35] body's constantly broadcasting to you.
[2:18:38] Um, some things that most people
are not aware of, but they should be
[2:18:42] aware of is the quality of your hair.
[2:18:46] You know?
[2:18:47] Now, now for me, that's not a problem, but
[2:18:51] grass doesn't grow on a busy street.
[2:18:54] Um,
[2:18:55] what are you saying about me
[2:18:57] that you, that you just good jeans
that, that you, uh, you, you have,
[2:19:03] um, such powerful anabolic abilities.
[2:19:06] Um, so, you know, you,
you see hair getting dry.
[2:19:11] Mm-hmm.
[2:19:11] You see split ends.
[2:19:12] You, you see hair that's just
not healthy, it's brittle.
[2:19:16] Uh, a lot of people notice
their hair starts falling out.
[2:19:19] Um, you look at fingernails and toenails
and you'll see ridges, uh, you'll
[2:19:25] see check marks, you'll see little
white spots, which is almost always
[2:19:29] an indication of a zinc deficiency.
[2:19:31] Yeah.
[2:19:32] You'll see nails that get too weak.
[2:19:34] You'll see nails that get brittle.
[2:19:36] Um, so there's a number of things,
but that's telling you a lot about
[2:19:40] your nutritional status and your
mineral and your trace mineral status.
[2:19:44] Uh, you, you look at.
[2:19:46] If your cortisol levels are too high,
the first thing that happens is you
[2:19:51] start accumulating fluid around the
belly button, which looks like fat.
[2:19:56] And as the cortisol stays high, because
when we're under stress, the body
[2:20:00] perceives we're in a fight or flight
situation, it begins to hold onto water
[2:20:04] because it thinks maybe we're going into
a battlefield or a, a dangerous situation.
[2:20:09] So people start gaining a lot
of weight and they look swollen.
[2:20:12] And so if you start seeing that your
body is swollen, and then the other
[2:20:16] thing is when your cortisol goes
up, it liberates, uh, blood sugar
[2:20:20] to prepare you to fight or flight.
[2:20:21] But, but you know, we're,
we're not running from a lion.
[2:20:24] We're running from the fear that
we can't pay our bills or, or that
[2:20:28] somebody's not giving us enough likes
on Facebook or, so we keep creating
[2:20:33] all these lions and all these perceived
threats, which the body perceives as
[2:20:38] just as real, as a legitimate threat
because to the body, the mind is God.
[2:20:43] So what you have is you have this repeated
elevation of blood sugar, which then
[2:20:47] is followed by a blood sugar crash.
[2:20:50] And so you have people whose
pancreas is being worked to death
[2:20:53] and their blood sugar is going
up, up and down all the time.
[2:20:56] Well, that would be like if you had a
little monkey under the hood of your car.
[2:21:02] Changing the air gas ratio in your
engine, making it very lean, which we
[2:21:07] can burn a hole right through a piston,
and then making it so rich that you're
[2:21:10] just wasting tons of fuel and your
exhaust is dark and stinky and you can
[2:21:15] smell gas coming out of the tailpipe.
[2:21:17] So, or it would be like if someone, um,
starts a raging fire in a fireplace,
[2:21:25] which would be high blood sugar, but
then going low blood sugar is like
[2:21:28] someone's dousing the thing with water
and your whole house is full of wet smoke.
[2:21:34] Yeah.
[2:21:34] So it's very stressful on the body.
[2:21:36] And, and this is a, it's common
as white bread out there.
[2:21:38] I mean, I see this all the time.
[2:21:41] You can look at the quality of your skin.
[2:21:43] Are you having pimples?
[2:21:44] Are you having various
types of skin reactions?
[2:21:47] How do your joints feel if you're
athletic or you're doing physical labor?
[2:21:52] Are you recovering?
[2:21:53] Are your, is your muscles recovering
and you're able to actually have
[2:21:57] good work tolerance each day?
[2:21:59] Um, you can pay attention to your breath.
[2:22:03] You, you can, uh, do
something very simple.
[2:22:07] You can stick your finger in your
back of your mouth and swipe the
[2:22:12] root of your tongue and smell it.
[2:22:14] And if it smells bad, it usually means
you have bacterial imbalance in your
[2:22:19] body or that your body's outta balance.
[2:22:21] Um, you can look at the whites of the eyes
and see if the eyes are clear and the more
[2:22:25] tired people get, and the more deep toxic
they get, the more cloudy their eyes get.
[2:22:30] Uh, like these are just some of the things
that, that should be taught to people,
[2:22:35] but they end up feeling really lousy.
[2:22:38] And the first thing they do is they go
to a doctor who gives 'em a drug who
[2:22:41] increases the toxicity in their body.
[2:22:43] That covers up the symptoms that are
there to tell you, Hey, you need to make
[2:22:47] changes what you're doing's not working.
[2:22:50] So, you know, if, if you take
what I've just said, the body's
[2:22:54] constantly telling you what the
report card is on your diet and your
[2:22:59] lifestyle, but people keep drugging
it instead of working with it, right?
[2:23:04] So we have one love.
[2:23:07] What do you love enough to change
for, to grow for and become two, where
[2:23:11] are you outta balance with regard to
the feminine nutrition, hydration,
[2:23:16] and the masculine, um, which is
doctor movement and doctor happiness.
[2:23:23] So, we'll get to the four,
which is the four doctors.
[2:23:27] The three is, there's only three choices
you can make in relationship to any
[2:23:31] person, place, or thing, the optimal,
which is the best for you and everybody
[2:23:34] involved in what I call your dream team,
which is the people that are helping you.
[2:23:37] For example, if your dream is to
run a farm successfully, then I
[2:23:42] would say, well, everybody that
works for you is on your dream team.
[2:23:45] So if you make decisions that are
disruptive to the dream team, like
[2:23:49] maybe you start getting, you know,
a little carried away with alcohol
[2:23:52] and start showing up late to work and
all your workers are going, well, I
[2:23:55] don't know what the hell to do today.
[2:23:57] Or you forget to, you know.
[2:23:59] Do specific things you gotta do to keep
animals healthy or crop work or whatever.
[2:24:05] You can destroy your whole dream, right?
[2:24:08] So the four doctors can also be broken
down into the six foundation principles,
[2:24:13] doctor, diet and doctor, quiet correlate
to nutrition, hydration, and sleep.
[2:24:18] Doctor happiness and DR. Movement
correlate to breathing, thinking and
[2:24:21] movement because most of the things
that we do for happy making and movement
[2:24:26] are yang because they're utilizing more
energy and resources per unit of time
[2:24:30] than they're cultivating a yin activity
regenerates more energy and gives
[2:24:36] you more resources per unit of time.
[2:24:39] For example, when you sit and have a
nice meal and drink good water, you're
[2:24:44] actually bringing in a lot more energy
and resources than it costs for you
[2:24:47] to sit there and have the meal, right?
[2:24:50] But if it takes you 30 minutes to eat the
meal, and we say the cost of running your
[2:24:55] body for 30 minutes relative to what the
meal gave you, leaves you with a surplus.
[2:24:59] Mm-hmm.
[2:24:59] But then if I take you into the gym
and work you out for 30 minutes,
[2:25:02] you'll leave with a deficit, which
is why it's called working out.
[2:25:05] Okay.
[2:25:07] Because you're spending not gaining.
[2:25:09] And, and that's another problem 'cause
a lot of people that have all these
[2:25:12] problems that gain a lot of weight, start
going to gyms and getting on exercise
[2:25:16] programs and they can't figure out why
they're not getting lean or getting fit
[2:25:20] or getting strong because they don't have
enough anabolic reserve to respond to the
[2:25:24] stress in their body, plus the exercise.
[2:25:27] So you see people that actually go to
the gym and get fatter and more tired and
[2:25:31] start having a lot of injuries because
they're pushing themselves so hard now.
[2:25:35] It's like they're redlining the
whole system, but they think
[2:25:38] they're doing what they're supposed
to be doing because we have an
[2:25:41] uneducated health and exercise system
[2:25:43] and they prob and they haven't sat
down to good meals where they're
[2:25:46] actually replenishing and renewing
and and and they're not getting
[2:25:50] enough rest, nutrition, and the rest.
[2:25:52] Yeah.
[2:25:52] Yeah.
[2:25:53] So the optimal choice is the one
that's best for you and everybody
[2:25:58] involved in the dream team.
[2:25:59] The suboptimal is the one that
usually gives instant gratification,
[2:26:03] but causes trouble in the management
of your dream and your dream team.
[2:26:08] Then we have the third option, which
is to do nothing if you've gotta make
[2:26:13] an an important decision, like should
I get vaccinated or should I invest?
[2:26:18] In this stock, or should I marry
this person or take on this business
[2:26:23] partner or sell my business?
[2:26:25] Um, if you don't have enough
information to make an intelligent
[2:26:31] decision, then you should do nothing
until you've gathered the information
[2:26:37] and you feel very clear that you're
making the best possible decision.
[2:26:41] So step one for do nothing is don't make a
decision till you have enough information
[2:26:45] to make an an well-informed decision.
[2:26:49] Application two, for doing nothing means
if you're having an argument or a dispute
[2:26:55] with somebody that's you know, that you
have a relationship with and you cannot
[2:27:00] stay connected at the heart and you're
at risk of damaging the relationship,
[2:27:03] you should call time out and do nothing
with regard to continuing this battle.
[2:27:09] Mm-hmm.
[2:27:09] Because you could damage the relationship
indefinitely, and that can lead
[2:27:14] to a lot of stress in your life.
[2:27:16] And it's not healthy and it's
not a, a great way to live, uh,
[2:27:20] because you ultimately, you know,
burn bridges everywhere you go.
[2:27:24] So in that state, you call a time out
and you say, look, I can't, I'm having a
[2:27:28] hard time staying connected at the heart.
[2:27:30] I'd really like to come back to this when
I can stay connected with you and I don't
[2:27:34] feel at risk of damaging the relationship,
and you just gotta walk away.
[2:27:38] The worst application of the do
nothing option is apathy, which
[2:27:43] by definition means not to care.
[2:27:46] Once a person gets to the point where
they just don't care about important
[2:27:49] things in their life or about important
people in their life, uh, they're,
[2:27:53] they're usually a, in a state of
depression and b on the edge of suicide.
[2:28:01] Um, and they're, you'd be surprised
how many people are apathetic.
[2:28:05] So getting to that point
is very, very dangerous.
[2:28:08] So it's the worst possible choice
you can make because if you don't
[2:28:14] care, it means you're really not
participating in life anymore.
[2:28:17] You're not participating in
relationships, you're not participating
[2:28:20] in, in taking care of yourself.
[2:28:21] You're not interested in growing,
you're not interested in learning.
[2:28:24] You have a closed mindset, and you
usually become codependent to others
[2:28:28] and or the government, and you're
not really, um, supporting the world
[2:28:33] that's carrying the weight of you.
[2:28:36] So it's a really a, a sort of
a, it's a dead end road and
[2:28:39] it's not a good place to get to.
[2:28:41] So we have the one love, we have
the two forces we have to balance,
[2:28:46] and we have three choices to make.
[2:28:48] And those three choices should
be made in, in conscious
[2:28:52] awareness of the four doctors.
[2:28:54] So if you take a living philosophy, if,
if you take what your life really consists
[2:28:59] of and you say, if I reduce life down to.
[2:29:06] The minimum that I must be conscious
of, which I investigated this for years.
[2:29:12] It turns out you have four categories.
[2:29:15] One, what am I willing to do to
create happiness for myself so I'm
[2:29:19] not codependent on other people or
substances or external sources, such as
[2:29:26] media to create the sense of happiness
so that I'm actually enjoying my life.
[2:29:32] So Doctor Happiness is the chief
physician because Doctor Happiness has
[2:29:36] to decide what is happy making for you.
[2:29:39] And Doctor Happiness has to establish
core values, and those core values
[2:29:45] have to be established for doctor
movement, doctor diet, and doctor
[2:29:50] quiet, as well as happiness.
[2:29:53] So Doctor Happiness is really all
about what gives me a sense of
[2:29:59] connection and fulfillment in my life.
[2:30:02] What gives me a sense of joy in
relationship to myself and others?
[2:30:07] What are the things that I can do from
making music to art, to dancing, to
[2:30:12] singing, to playing with children, to
creative pursuits that don't have an
[2:30:18] outcome attached to them that give me
a chance just to really enjoy being.
[2:30:25] You see, we're so caught in doing,
we forgot this thing called being.
[2:30:29] And if we don't have that
sense of freedom, then again
[2:30:33] we, we get too overloaded.
[2:30:34] We suffer control fatigue.
[2:30:37] So doctor happiness must take
responsibility for saying,
[2:30:41] what is happy making for me?
[2:30:43] And what am I going to do to
make that happen in my life?
[2:30:48] And, and for me, for example, it's
very important for me to have my
[2:30:53] morning routine from my spiritual
practices, my prayers, my inner work.
[2:30:59] And to have at least an hour a
day to study things that feel
[2:31:04] nourishing to my mind and my soul.
[2:31:07] Or I don't really want
to engage the world.
[2:31:10] I feel like I'm running on empty.
[2:31:13] I don't, I feel like I don't
have anything to share 'cause I
[2:31:15] haven't filled my own cup yet.
[2:31:18] Mm. And so, um, doctor happiness
turns out at the end of the
[2:31:24] day to be very important.
[2:31:26] 'cause if you look at what most people
do to medicate the fact that they're
[2:31:30] not happy in their work and their
relationships, well, it turns out to be
[2:31:35] that not being happy in your relationship
with yourself, your relationship with
[2:31:39] others in your relationship with life
itself is probably the root cause of most
[2:31:44] drug use, most illnesses, most diseases.
[2:31:48] So our culture has become so used
to buying happiness in pills or.
[2:31:56] You know, in external forms,
it's lost its way with regard
[2:31:59] to how to create happiness.
[2:32:01] And I, and I have to work with
people to teach them how to do that.
[2:32:06] Then we have to say, how much
movement do I need to meet the
[2:32:09] requirements for baseline health?
[2:32:11] Well, you know, most experts say you
need at least an hour of exercise a day.
[2:32:16] I say that depends on the
intensity and the type of exercise.
[2:32:20] So my general guideline is you need 30
to 60 minutes of movement a day, and
[2:32:25] that movement has to be of the right
type and variety to give you the physical
[2:32:30] and physiological health and stability
that it takes just to be a healthy human
[2:32:35] being, living in a field of gravity.
[2:32:37] Okay?
[2:32:38] Then with doctor movement, we have
to say, well, what is your dream?
[2:32:41] Well, if you come to me and say, my
dream is to run my farm effectively and,
[2:32:46] and, and really do that without pain
getting in the way and problems, then I
[2:32:51] have to say, well, okay, Charles, we're
gonna have to get you in better shape
[2:32:55] this than just the average individual.
[2:32:56] 'cause the average individual's not
moving hay bales and managing animals
[2:33:00] and equipment and tools and things that
require some physical strength and, and
[2:33:05] some, you know, integrity of the body.
[2:33:09] Mm.
[2:33:09] So you're gonna have to have an exercise
program that builds you up in the
[2:33:13] right movement patterns and gives you
the right amount of strength, power,
[2:33:18] agility, speed, coordination, balance.
[2:33:21] Endurance to fit that environment.
[2:33:24] Okay?
[2:33:25] Or you're gonna get injured.
[2:33:26] It's just a matter of time.
[2:33:28] If, if people use their physical
labor as their exercise program, then
[2:33:35] day by day their body decondition
until that's their maximum level.
[2:33:40] So what happens is you take a guy who's
really fit like I am, put me in a job, say
[2:33:46] as a policeman, but then I don't, I tell
myself, I don't have time to exercise.
[2:33:51] Well, the next thing you know, a couple
of months later, I've lost all my
[2:33:54] strength 'cause I'm not training anymore.
[2:33:57] And now I'm at the maximum level.
[2:34:00] And the next thing you know, I'm in
an altercation with someone where
[2:34:03] I gotta chase some guy down and I
tear a hamstring or blow my back up.
[2:34:07] So if we don't, my, my estimate is
you should have at least 30% higher
[2:34:14] of a level of conditioning than your
work or dream environment demands.
[2:34:18] Or you don't have enough reserves to
deal with the challenges that inevitably
[2:34:23] come when you don't get enough sleep or
when you're traveling or when you have
[2:34:27] a crisis in your life or your family.
[2:34:30] If you have a 30% reserve, then you have
enough to make it through these things.
[2:34:34] Um, and so these are real factors.
[2:34:36] So in a nutshell with movement, you
gotta have enough to keep yourself
[2:34:39] healthy, to meet the requirements
of being a healthy human being.
[2:34:44] In general.
[2:34:44] And then you gotta have enough
conditioning to deal with the
[2:34:47] environment that is conducive to
your life, your dream, your work.
[2:34:52] Then you have to look at food.
[2:34:54] You say, okay, doctor diet.
[2:34:56] Mm-hmm.
[2:34:56] You, you have to have
some ground rules there.
[2:34:59] For example, all my patients are taught
you will not do well if you don't eat
[2:35:04] clean organic food or better than organic
biodynamic, uh, or various other systems.
[2:35:11] Korean farming.
[2:35:11] Some of these things now produce better
food than classic organic farming.
[2:35:15] 'cause as you know, organic's now
kind of been washed out, but the qual,
[2:35:19] the quality of the food is important.
[2:35:22] And as you know, the food cannot be
any better than the soil it came from.
[2:35:26] So you have to seek out sources for
well farmed, nutritious food, or you're
[2:35:32] going to chronically have problems and
you will never be able to rehabilitate.
[2:35:36] You repair your body on a daily basis.
[2:35:38] You'll just go further and
further into a deficit.
[2:35:41] And one of the things I show in my
book How to Eat, move, and Be Healthy
[2:35:44] to really drive this home, is I cite
research by John Ardi, a PhD nutritionist.
[2:35:51] And he showed that it takes 55%
of the calories we eat just to
[2:35:56] run the machinery of the body to
get the food from mouth to anus.
[2:36:00] So if you eat.
[2:36:01] A thousand calories, 550 of those
calories are just to keep the lights
[2:36:07] on in the factory running before you
can spend them on your exercise, your
[2:36:11] work, your joy, your play, your kids.
[2:36:14] Does that
[2:36:14] include your brain function?
[2:36:15] Yeah.
[2:36:15] Thinking, well, it's not looking
at brain functioning, it's looking
[2:36:19] at what does it take to digest?
[2:36:20] Metabolize.
[2:36:21] Assimilate.
[2:36:22] Yeah.
[2:36:22] Detoxify and eliminate.
[2:36:24] So it just, running the factory
of transforming food into body.
[2:36:29] Mm-hmm.
[2:36:30] And eliminating waste.
[2:36:32] That's a lot of calories.
[2:36:33] Basic ba the basic process
[2:36:34] survival.
[2:36:35] Yeah.
[2:36:35] Right.
[2:36:35] Yeah.
[2:36:35] Just the basic survival mechanism.
[2:36:38] So, you know, for example, people
don't think about this when they
[2:36:41] go on these low calorie diets and
don't realize that they're actually
[2:36:44] putting themselves in harm's way.
[2:36:46] Mm-hmm.
[2:36:47] Uh, and what got 'em in trouble in
the first place was that they were
[2:36:50] eating food that had such low nutrient
levels in it, that by the time the
[2:36:55] body runs the machinery to get it
from mouth to anus, it's actually
[2:36:59] going into a nutritional deficit.
[2:37:01] Yeah.
[2:37:02] Right?
[2:37:02] Because you're not bringing
enough nutrition to meet your, the
[2:37:05] factory needs as a metaphor, right.
[2:37:07] So you're just, every meal
you're going into a hole.
[2:37:10] Um, you know, it is kind of like smoking
cigarettes or drinking alcohol too much.
[2:37:16] Your body can only repair your
lungs at a certain rate and detoxify
[2:37:20] that poison at a certain rate.
[2:37:22] And your liver can only repair itself
from the damage caused by alcohol
[2:37:25] and the toxicity caused by alcohol
and your brain at a certain rate.
[2:37:29] If the intake of a toxin is greater
than the body's ability to detoxify
[2:37:35] and clean itself, then you end up
with a disease is what you get.
[2:37:39] So food, with food, we
have to consider hydration.
[2:37:44] The average person needs about half their
body weight and ounces of water a day.
[2:37:48] As a general rule of thumb, if you're
in a metric, uh, system, you take your
[2:37:53] kilograms of body weight and multiply it
by 0.033 to get liters of water a day.
[2:37:59] So, so if you're a, if you
weigh a hundred kilograms, you'd
[2:38:03] need 3.3 liters of water a day.
[2:38:05] Sure.
[2:38:05] Okay.
[2:38:06] So that's an average.
[2:38:08] I know a lot of people have come back to
me and said, oh, well that's not accurate,
[2:38:11] because, you know, food's mostly water.
[2:38:13] I eat a lot of vegetables,
meat, even meats, 70% water.
[2:38:17] That's until you cook it.
[2:38:19] And I say, well, I got news for you.
[2:38:20] Water is the chief solvent in nature.
[2:38:22] It's the chief solvent in your body.
[2:38:25] And water cannot do its work as
water if there's anything in it.
[2:38:31] Mm.
[2:38:31] So everything that you just said
to me has water and it has to go
[2:38:37] through the digestive process.
[2:38:38] And that water is tied up in the
food and it's loaded with chemicals,
[2:38:43] minerals, solutes of all sorts.
[2:38:46] So my rule is if you cannot see
through it, it does not count as water.
[2:38:51] Tea has to go through the digestive
process, Gatorade, coca, all these
[2:38:56] things, tea, soda, pop, all of that
has to go through a digestive process.
[2:39:00] So it's not actually adding the ability
for your body to have clean water,
[2:39:05] to neutralize toxins, dilute toxins,
and remove toxins and clean water.
[2:39:11] If it's healthy water brings a
lot of energy into your body and
[2:39:14] information that your body needs.
[2:39:16] But once you put that water in
food or you put it into various
[2:39:20] things, it's not water anymore.
[2:39:22] It's now actually food.
[2:39:23] It's not water.
[2:39:23] Or it may not even be food.
[2:39:25] It's chemical.
[2:39:26] It's just chemicals.
[2:39:27] And so, so my point is, is you have
to have a high quality of food.
[2:39:33] You have to have a high quality
of water in the right amount of
[2:39:35] water, or you'll be in big trouble.
[2:39:37] 'cause even 1% dehydration of the
central nervous system can cause
[2:39:41] significant psychological disorders.
[2:39:43] And that's well documented by Dr.
Batman Gillich, who wrote the book,
[2:39:46] your Body's Many Cries for water.
[2:39:49] Then we have to say, well, what
is it that my body specifically
[2:39:52] runs best on as I show in my book
How to eat, move, and be healthy?
[2:39:56] This is all based on genetics.
[2:39:59] For example, if, if your mother is, comes
from an aboriginal, uh, let's say, let's
[2:40:04] say, just make it obvious, Eskimo culture,
which is they eat 90% fat and protein,
[2:40:10] and your father is, comes from say,
[2:40:17] a desert region, where in India or
a place where they have a higher
[2:40:22] rate of vegetarianism because they
don't have access to big game.
[2:40:26] You could be anything in between your
mother and your father, but you're most
[2:40:31] likely to be what I call a variable
type that has some degree of need
[2:40:35] for animal flesh, higher levels of
saturated fat and cholesterol, and
[2:40:41] can also do fairly well with plants.
[2:40:44] But depending, depending on the
environmental stress, the internal
[2:40:46] stress, and the internal factors of the
body, there's gonna be, like in winter,
[2:40:50] you're gonna need more fat and protein
in animal foods for energy and thermo,
[2:40:55] uh, thermogenesis to keep your body warm.
[2:40:58] But in the summer, you're gonna need,
everyone's gonna need more plant foods and
[2:41:02] more water and cooling foods, for example.
[2:41:04] You know, we all like watermelon
in the summertime 'cause
[2:41:06] it's cooling to the body.
[2:41:09] Now if you see, I am a, a, a, what I call.
[2:41:14] A polar type because if you come from, if
your parents or your lineage, particularly
[2:41:20] your parents and grandparents, if
they come from anywhere in the world
[2:41:22] where the ground freezes in the
winter, plants do not grow in ice.
[2:41:26] So you cannot survive through the
winter without eating animal flesh.
[2:41:30] And so your genetics are designed
and built around that reality because
[2:41:35] we are one with our environment.
[2:41:37] In fact, wherever your mother was at
when you were in the womb, your body
[2:41:42] was made out of the molecules that came
from the environment she was living in.
[2:41:47] Mm-hmm.
[2:41:47] And that's scientific fact.
[2:41:49] So your whole physiology, including
your genetics, is actually heavily
[2:41:54] influenced by the epigenetic influences.
[2:41:57] Okay.
[2:41:58] So you take someone like me, see my,
my roots are predominantly Als theran
[2:42:05] between France and Germany, which is a
place that has a very significant winner.
[2:42:09] So you put a guy like me on a
vegetarian diet and it won't be long.
[2:42:13] And there's gonna be real, serious
health problems because I will not,
[2:42:16] people that have bodies that are more,
uh, genetically driven for consuming
[2:42:23] flesh foods do not have a long enough
intestinal tract and enough enzymes in
[2:42:28] their body to extract protein outta fiber.
[2:42:32] But people who come from the regions
like inland aboriginals, certain
[2:42:36] regions of India and places where
there's not a lot of big game.
[2:42:41] Research by Byron Robinson showed
something quite fascinating.
[2:42:44] He dissected hundreds of bodies from
different regions of the world and he
[2:42:49] showed something that was quite shocking
that most people are not aware of.
[2:42:53] Even medical professionals, 'cause I've
lectured on this all over the world.
[2:42:56] He measured the length of what's called
the tron, which is mouth to anus.
[2:43:01] So the digestive tube from mouth to anus.
[2:43:04] And he found that amongst heavy meat
eating populations such as the Eskimos
[2:43:10] or native cultures that ate a lot of
big game like, like you would see in,
[2:43:13] say Canada for example, and like in
Vancouver Island or where it's cold in the
[2:43:17] winter, Alaska, they often had digestive
systems that were as short as 22 feet.
[2:43:24] Mm.
[2:43:24] But in regions where they ate a lot of
plant foods, they had as long as 42 feet.
[2:43:31] Yeah.
[2:43:32] Wow.
[2:43:32] So he showed that there can
be twice the length, most of
[2:43:35] which is the small intestine.
[2:43:37] Well, what does that tell you?
[2:43:39] The body needs more time to
extract protein out of fiber,
[2:43:42] so it lengthens the factory.
[2:43:45] Wow.
[2:43:45] That's fascinating.
[2:43:45] So it can pull it out.
[2:43:46] And you will see the enzyme requirements
for extracting protein out of fiber from
[2:43:53] plants are a lot different than the enzyme
requirements for breaking meat down.
[2:43:57] So people's bodies learn how to make
and acquire enzymes to do the right.
[2:44:05] Processes for the foods that
they're environmentally, uh,
[2:44:08] genetically require requiring.
[2:44:11] So then you start reading a bunch of diet
books and eating in all sorts of ways that
[2:44:14] other people tell you to eat, but it's
completely against what your body needs.
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