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Retreats

Non-Duality Realization: A JourneyFrom Ignorance to Self-Knowledge

Suryalila Retreat Centre
Suryalila Retreat Centre
May 19, 2026
10 min de lecture

Spiritual life doesn't have to mean leaving. That's the radical opening premise Swami Sarvapriyananda offers in the opening session of an Advaita Vedanta retreat, one that reframes what seekers have been told to expect. We arrive expecting a map toward distant light. Instead, the teaching reveals something both more practical and more demanding: the light was never lost in the first place.

Lecture · 7 sections

What Kind of Journey Are We Actually On?

The Swami begins by dismantling a pervasive spiritual misunderstanding. Most religious traditions frame enlightenment as a journey—from here to there, now to then, self to other. Go to a holy place. Wait for the Messiah. After death, you'll see God. These are all spatial or temporal escapes, all promising fulfillment elsewhere. Buddhism posits Buddha lands. Christianity gestures toward heaven. Even secular culture offers versions: a perfect time coming, a better version of yourself waiting to be built.

But Vedanta, the philosophical foundation of Advaita, rejects this entire logic. Brahman—the ultimate reality—is not somewhere else. It's everywhere, which means here. It's not sometime else; it's always, which means now. And crucially, it's not some other; it's your own nature. This is the force of the teaching tat tvam asi—"thou art that." There's nowhere to go and nothing to become.

"Vedanta cannot be a journey in time, because what we are talking about is not only then, but it's now. Brahman always is. Our real nature always is. So, it's available to us not only here, but now."

If Vedanta is not a journey in space, time, or toward an external other, what is it? It's a journey from ignorance to knowledge. From not knowing to knowing. From not seeing to seeing. Enlightenment carries two meanings here: light as that which illumines what was hidden (the revelation of the Self), and light as the absence of burden (freedom from the suffering of conditioned existence, or samsara). Both come from the same knowledge.

The elegance of this path reveals itself in its consequences. If what you're seeking is already here, already now, already you, then the path must be direct, effortless, and instantaneous. You don't have to change. You don't have to become something other than what you are. The teaching cuts through the modern spiritual economy of self-improvement—the seminars, the programs, the systems designed to fix you. Vedanta asks: what effort does it take to be yourself?

Why Texts Matter When the Truth Is Already Here

This raises an immediate paradox: if the Self is self-evident and always available, why do we need teaching? Why texts? Why a retreat? The answer lies in the distinction between two kinds of spiritual texts—those that command action (do's and don'ts) and those that convey insight into reality itself.

The Vedas contain both. The ritualistic portions prescribe observances, fire rituals (yagna), and conduct—all aiming toward building a mind and life capable of receiving the insight. But alongside this is a second kind of teaching, one that doesn't tell you to do anything but simply tells you something about reality. It tells you who and what you are. This is Vedanta.

The teaching draws from the three central texts of Vedanta: the Upanishads (the philosophical foundation), the Bhagavad Gita (the most widely known), and the Brahma Sutras. From this ocean of texts, the Swami has chosen to work with Chapter 13 of the Bhagavad Gita—a chapter that may be less famous than Arjuna's crisis or Krishna's summary of yoga, but it is densely packed with instruction on the nature of the field and the knower of the field. Who sees? What is seen? What remains untouched by either?

The Field and the Knower: Unpacking the Central Inquiry

Chapter 13 opens with a fundamental distinction: the field (kshetra) and the knower of the field (kshetrajna). Krishna begins by inviting Arjuna to discern the truth about both. The field is everything that can be known as an object—the body, the mind, the senses, the world, time, change, multiplicity. The knower is that which witnesses all of this without being affected by it.

Here's where the teaching begins to work. Most of us, the Swami notes, are caught in a fundamental error: we've concluded that we are the field. We think we are the body. We think we are the mind. We think we are the person with a name, a history, a future, responsibilities, fears. This is not ignorance in the sense of lacking information. It's ignorance in the sense of misidentification. You've mistaken yourself for something you're aware of.

To illustrate: when you wear glasses, you can see them when you look down or catch your reflection. You know you're wearing glasses. You are not the glasses. You are the one wearing them. You can change them, remove them, exchange them for different ones. The same is true of the body. You can see it, feel it, know about it—you are not it. You are the knower of it.

Extend this logic further. You're aware of your thoughts. Thoughts arise and dissolve in your awareness, like clouds in the sky. You are not your thoughts. If you were your thoughts, then when you're in deep sleep, where your thoughts disappear, you would cease to exist. But you don't. Consciousness persists.

This is not philosophy as abstraction. It's inquiry anchored in your direct experience. The teaching asks: Can the seer see itself? If consciousness is the light by which everything is seen, who illumines consciousness? When you try to make consciousness into an object—by thinking about consciousness, by observing it—you've already stepped out of it. You're aware of the thought about consciousness, but you cannot make the seer itself the seen. The seer is always the subject.

One Seer, Many Scenes

Here's where the Gita's teaching becomes pointed: the seen is always many. The scenes of the world, the forms in the body, the multiplicity of experiences, the endless parade of objects arising and passing. But the seer is one. Not one among many. One without a second.

This is not a poetic metaphor. It's an empirical observation dressed in philosophy. There's a vastness to consciousness that cannot be bounded. When you try to say "I am limited," you're already presupposing something unlimited—the space in which that limitation appears. The mind is many, many, many, constantly changing, contradicting itself, fragmenting. But the awareness in which all of this occurs remains singular, continuous, untouched by the turbulence.

The Swami uses a clinical example: a person diagnosed with schizophrenia experiences multiple voices, multiple personalities, multiple streams of seemingly separate consciousness. Yet all of these appear in one field of awareness. The one awareness doesn't become fragmented; it remains the witnessing consciousness of all apparent fragmentation.

The implications reach into daily life. You've had thousands of experiences—childhood, relationships, achievements, losses, transformations of belief and identity. Yet something in you has remained constant throughout, witnessing all of it. You call it "I," but what is this "I" that was present in childhood and is still present now, despite the total transformation of the body, mind, and circumstances?

The Universe Is Not Distinct From You

As the teaching deepens, it moves toward a realization that destabilizes ordinary perception: the universe is not separate from consciousness. It appears in consciousness, but it does not exist outside consciousness. You cannot place consciousness and the universe at a distance from each other and examine them both.

Consider a dream. In a dream, you experience a world—a landscape, a building, other people. These all appear in your consciousness. When you wake, you don't discover that the dream world was hidden somewhere. It simply dissolves. It had no independent existence; it appeared in the consciousness of the dreamer. The waking world has the same character: it appears in consciousness. You cannot step outside consciousness to verify that an objective world exists independent of it.

This doesn't mean the world doesn't exist. It means the world's existence is not independent of the consciousness in which it appears. The form of a flower depends on the consciousness perceiving it. Remove consciousness, and what remains? The very concept of "independent matter" is itself a thought, an object in consciousness. There's no vantage point from which consciousness observes an objective, consciousness-free world.

The teaching isn't claiming the world is illusory in the sense of unreal. It's claiming the world is not separate from you. The boundary you've drawn between "me in here" and "the world out there" is a mental construct. The universe appears in your consciousness the way a reflection appears in a mirror. The reflection is real relative to the mirror, but it has no independent existence apart from the mirror and the object being reflected.

This recognition carries enormous implications. If the universe is not distinct from consciousness, and if you are the locus of that consciousness, then in a profound sense, the universe is you. The diversity of forms—people, objects, galaxies—are like waves in an ocean. The waves have individuality of shape and movement, but they're not separate from the ocean. Consciousness is that ocean.

Knowledge That Changes Everything (And Nothing)

What happens when this knowledge becomes clear? The Swami emphasizes repeatedly that nothing changes. You still have a body. You still have a mind. You still have relationships and responsibilities. But the center of gravity shifts. You're no longer identified with the limited, constantly threatened, always seeking mind-body organism. You recognize yourself as that in which the organism appears.

The burden of samsara—the exhaustion of trying to become complete through accumulation, achievement, security, and control—falls away. Not because you stop living, but because you stop living in contraction. You're no longer trying to defend a separate self from a world that's fundamentally other. You're no longer trying to be yourself; you are yourself.

This is why the Swami emphasizes that the path must be effortless. Effort implies becoming something you're not. But the teaching isn't about becoming. It's about recognizing what you already are. The obstacle is not the absence of the Self. The obstacle is the misidentification with the field. And that misidentification is simply ignorance—not knowing. Knowledge removes ignorance.

The fine print, as the Swami notes with humor, is that you can't shortcut anything. The morning session of the retreat focuses on the direct, effortless knowledge. The afternoon session addresses the effort and hard work required to live the truth—to clear the obstacles of conditioning, habit, and deep identity patterns. Both are necessary. The knowledge that the mountain you've been climbing doesn't need to be climbed still requires that you stop climbing.

Where to Go From Here

For those new to Advaita Vedanta, the immediate step is to engage with the teaching not as belief but as inquiry. The Swami's approach is diagnostic: it begins by questioning what you think you already know about yourself. Who is the "I" that says "I am worried" or "I am happy"? Can the seer be seen? The questions aren't abstract riddles; they're invitations to direct investigation of your own nature.

The central texts—the Upanishads, the Bhagavad Gita, particularly Chapter 13 in this case—are not literature to be studied from a distance. They're mirrors designed to reflect the truth back to you. The teaching works most effectively when you're actively inquiring into its claims against your own direct experience.

For those already familiar with non-dual teachings, the Vedantic approach offers a unique power: it's philosophically rigorous, textually grounded, and deeply respectful of logic and reason. It doesn't ask for faith in something irrational. It asks you to examine rationality itself and discover what stands before and beyond it. That examination is where the freedom lives.

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[0:31] Om lead us from the unreal to the real.

[0:34] Lead us from darkness to light. Lead us

[0:38] from death to immortality.

[0:41] Om peace, peace,

[0:44] peace.

[0:48] Namaste and good morning.

[0:51] Namaste.

[0:53] So, I propose we start each session

[0:56] by a

[0:57] chanting Om for just a minute or so.

[1:01] And let's do it in a

[1:03] rolling fashion. Let's

[1:05] don't follow me. You begin and end the

[1:07] Om at your own pace. So, there's a

[1:10] rolling Om going on in the hall.

[1:14] Just for a minute.

[2:39] >> Very good.

[2:43] Spiritual life can be thought of as a

[2:45] journey.

[2:49] But it's worth thinking about what kind

[2:51] of journey are we talking about? One can

[2:53] go from one place to another. We have

[2:55] all come here from different parts of

[2:57] the world.

[2:59] So, it's a journey, definitely.

[3:01] And if you do a journey from one place

[3:04] to another with a spiritual goal, you

[3:06] call it a pilgrimage.

[3:09] So, that's going from one place to

[3:11] another. Sometimes spiritual life is

[3:12] thought of as a journey from one place

[3:14] to another.

[3:15] Um

[3:16] Here is the world, imperfect,

[3:19] problematic.

[3:20] And there is a perfect place,

[3:23] a heaven.

[3:25] Every civilization has a heaven concept.

[3:28] It's interesting that the Buddhists, who

[3:29] don't even believe in God,

[3:31] but still they have the Buddha lands,

[3:33] various conceptions of perfect Buddha

[3:36] heavens.

[3:37] So, a heaven concept where a place is

[3:39] perfect. You go from here to there.

[3:42] But Vedanta is not a journey from one

[3:44] place to another place.

[3:48] When we speak about Brahman, the

[3:49] absolute reality, ultimate reality, it's

[3:51] everywhere.

[3:53] So, you don't have to go anywhere to get

[3:55] it.

[3:56] Yes, if you go to heaven, you'll still

[3:57] find Brahman, but it's right here.

[4:00] So, it's not a journey from one place to

[4:03] another place.

[4:05] Where would you find enlightenment, our

[4:07] real nature, Brahman? Do you have to go

[4:09] to Benares? It's a good place, you

[4:11] should visit.

[4:12] Or Jerusalem, or Mecca, or some holy

[4:15] place, or to Rome.

[4:17] Um

[4:18] you can, and they're worthwhile

[4:19] journeys, but that's not the journey

[4:22] we're talking about.

[4:24] It's not even a journey in time.

[4:26] Sometimes spirituality is shown as a

[4:28] journey in time. This is an imperfect

[4:30] time, and a perfect time will come,

[4:33] maybe when the Messiah comes, after

[4:35] that.

[4:37] So, there's a spirituality which is not

[4:39] here, but it's there. You have to go

[4:40] there.

[4:42] There's a spirituality which is not now,

[4:43] but it's then.

[4:45] You have to wait till then.

[4:48] After something.

[4:51] A big billboard I saw in America.

[4:53] Um it says

[4:55] "After death

[4:57] you will see God." A little ominous.

[4:59] "After death, you will see God."

[5:02] And of course, below that there's a

[5:03] number, 1-800. Call Call this number.

[5:06] Call this number with few dollars you

[5:07] have to give, and then you get some

[5:09] information about God.

[5:11] But that see, it's a

[5:12] postmortem God.

[5:14] After death.

[5:16] It's a journey in time, according to

[5:18] them. But Vedanta cannot be a journey in

[5:21] time, because what we are talking about

[5:23] is not only then, but it's now. It

[5:26] always is. Brahman always is. Our real

[5:27] nature always is. So, it's available to

[5:30] us not only here, but now.

[5:33] So, it's not a journey in time. You

[5:34] don't have to wait.

[5:38] And

[5:40] Vedanta also does not speak about a

[5:42] journey from yourself to something else.

[5:46] Usually in theistic religions, God

[5:48] portrayed as an other, a divine other.

[5:52] But it's not even that. In Vedanta, it's

[5:53] ourselves. You are that, tat tvam asi.

[5:57] So, it's it's within ourselves. It's our

[5:58] real nature.

[6:00] So, it's not a journey in time. It's not

[6:01] a journey from one place to another, not

[6:03] a journey in space. It's not a journey

[6:05] from ourselves to something else,

[6:06] either.

[6:08] Vedanta says Brahman, the ultimate

[6:10] reality, is everywhere, therefore here,

[6:13] all the time, therefore now.

[6:15] And it is you. It's available wherever

[6:17] you are, whatever you are, it's

[6:18] available to us.

[6:20] So, what kind of a journey is uh

[6:23] Vedanta?

[6:24] Spiritual journey. What kind of a

[6:26] spiritual journey? If it's not a journey

[6:28] in space, if it's not a journey in time,

[6:30] if it's not a journey from ourselves to

[6:32] the to an other,

[6:35] it's a journey from ignorance to

[6:37] knowledge.

[6:39] From not knowing to knowing, from not

[6:41] realizing to realizing, from not seeing

[6:43] to seeing.

[6:46] Enlighten has these two aspects.

[6:49] One,

[6:50] the word light,

[6:52] is this is light. Anything that

[6:54] illumines something which was hidden is

[6:56] light. So, Vedanta is a light in that

[6:59] sense. It illumines our real nature,

[7:00] which is as yet hidden. We don't know it

[7:02] yet. We don't realize it yet. And that's

[7:05] revealed by Vedanta. So, it's

[7:06] enlightening in that sense. But light

[7:09] has another meaning, also. Light, you

[7:10] know, not heavy.

[7:12] Light.

[7:13] So, this knowledge makes us light. It it

[7:16] relieves us of the burden of samsara, of

[7:19] the world. It will give us freedom.

[7:23] Enlightenment in both these senses.

[7:26] And it's a good fit for what we will do

[7:28] in the morning sessions and in the

[7:30] afternoon session. In the morning

[7:31] session, enlighten in the sense of

[7:34] seeing for the first first time who or

[7:36] what we are, in the sense of insight,

[7:38] knowledge, realization.

[7:40] And in the afternoon session,

[7:42] enlightenment in the sense of

[7:44] freeing us from the burden of samsara.

[7:47] Same knowledge will free us from the

[7:48] burden of samsara.

[7:51] If you don't have to go anywhere for it.

[7:54] If you don't have to wait for it.

[7:56] If it is you yourself, then this path is

[8:00] direct.

[8:01] It is effortless. How much effort does

[8:04] it take to be yourself? If you have to

[8:06] change, it takes effort.

[8:08] But just to be yourself?

[8:10] Doesn't take any effort. So it's

[8:12] effortless. And indeed, that which is

[8:14] effortless must be instantaneous also.

[8:16] Because if it's right here, right now,

[8:17] it must be instantaneous.

[8:20] Effortless, instantaneous, direct,

[8:23] readily available.

[8:25] We feel, "Ah, I want some of that.

[8:27] That's really great."

[8:29] The fine print is there.

[8:32] It really cannot shortcut anything, but

[8:34] we'll see. The one we'll do now in the

[8:36] in the morning is direct, effortless.

[8:38] The one we will do in the afternoon, all

[8:40] the effort and hard work is there.

[8:42] And both are necessary. All right.

[8:45] So, because it's a journey from

[8:48] ignorance to knowledge, because it's a

[8:50] path of knowledge, of realizing, um

[8:54] that's why the text is important.

[8:56] And the text conveys knowledge. There

[8:58] are two kinds of religious or spiritual

[9:00] texts. One kind conveys an insight. It

[9:04] doesn't ask us to do anything. The other

[9:05] kind is do's and don'ts.

[9:08] So in the Vedas, the sources of Advaita

[9:11] Vedanta, the Vedas, there are two kinds

[9:12] of texts. There is the ritualistic part

[9:15] of the Vedas, with all kinds of

[9:17] observances. There were the fire

[9:19] rituals, in Sanskrit yagna, which means

[9:21] a fire ritual.

[9:23] Uh performances, rituals to be done.

[9:27] Life, what is good and bad. Do this,

[9:29] don't do that. That's the action kind of

[9:31] teaching.

[9:32] But there's another kind of teaching

[9:34] which doesn't tell us to do anything. It

[9:36] tells us something about reality.

[9:38] Especially tells us something about our

[9:39] reality, who or what we are.

[9:42] And the Vedanta is that second kind of

[9:44] teaching.

[9:46] There are do's and don'ts, but they all

[9:48] build up to they're not commandments in

[9:51] the sense that live your life in this

[9:52] way and don't live in that way. But we

[9:54] might ask why? Because they will all

[9:56] build up to that insight to show us

[9:58] something which we are. So right now the

[10:00] teaching we're going to take a look at

[10:02] is that second kind of teaching which

[10:04] gives us an insight into who or what we

[10:07] are.

[10:08] As I said yesterday, you can look at the

[10:11] entire ocean of Vedantic texts and pick

[10:14] like the ocean you drink from anywhere

[10:15] it's salty. Vedantic texts from anywhere

[10:18] you drink it will it will you take it it

[10:20] will tell you the same thing, the same

[10:22] teaching.

[10:23] That who are we, what is all this, and

[10:26] how to live it, how to manifest it.

[10:28] But the text which I've chosen is one

[10:30] from the central texts of Vedanta. The

[10:33] central texts of Vedanta, the

[10:34] Upanishads, the Bhagavad Gita, and the

[10:36] Brahma Sutras.

[10:38] So Upanishads are the source of Veda of

[10:41] Vedanta. In fact, one definition of

[10:43] Vedanta, the textual definition of

[10:44] Vedanta is Upanishad. Upanishads are a

[10:47] set of texts which you find in the in

[10:50] the Vedas. So they are at the source of

[10:52] the philosophical source of Hinduism are

[10:55] the Upanishads.

[10:57] And based on that there is a text which

[10:59] is much more well known. In fact, one

[11:01] text which is associated with Vedanta

[11:03] with Hinduism is the Bhagavad Gita.

[11:06] Where um Sri Krishna, who's the teacher,

[11:10] we regard Sri Krishna as an incarnation

[11:11] of God,

[11:12] and Sri Krishna teaches the his student

[11:16] Arjuna,

[11:18] who's a warrior, and he's being taught

[11:21] Vedanta.

[11:22] So the Bhagavad Gita is easily the most

[11:24] popular text associated with Hinduism.

[11:27] From the Bhagavad Gita, which has 18

[11:28] chapters and 700 verses, is selected a

[11:31] few verses from the 13th chapter.

[11:34] So,

[11:36] just a few verses and you have a

[11:38] handout.

[11:43] Two pages.

[11:45] Yes, one on this side, one on the other

[11:47] side.

[11:49] Yeah.

[11:51] And you have

[11:52] 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 verses

[11:57] with the

[12:00] English transliteration and translation.

[12:05] Verses 2 and 3.

[12:08] So, there's a little mystery about these

[12:09] 2 and 3. You might wonder what was the

[12:10] first verse then.

[12:13] Yes, the first verse is six a set of six

[12:16] questions that Arjuna asks Krishna.

[12:19] And the rest of the chapter is an answer

[12:21] to those six questions. Now, the

[12:23] peculiar thing about this 13th chapter

[12:25] is there's a dispute regarding the

[12:26] number of verses.

[12:28] In some books, some Bhagavad Gita, you

[12:30] will find that the first verse is not

[12:32] there.

[12:33] The that that chapter 13 in that book

[12:36] will start with this verse. So, what is

[12:38] called what is number two here is

[12:40] actually number one in those editions of

[12:42] the Bhagavad Gita. Straightaway Sri

[12:44] Krishna starts teaching. But sometime

[12:46] someone at some point might have thought

[12:47] this is not logical. There must have

[12:49] been questions at the beginning and

[12:50] someone might have intro- might have, we

[12:52] don't know, might have introduced those

[12:54] questions.

[12:55] So, that sometimes constitutes the first

[12:57] verse.

[12:59] That uh Prakritim Purusham Chaiva

[13:02] Kshetram Kshetrajnam Eva Cha Etad

[13:04] Vediditum Ichchhami Jnyanam Gneyam Cha

[13:06] Keshava. Oh Krishna, Arjuna asks.

[13:10] By the way, I will use Sanskrit is

[13:11] Sanskrit here. Don't worry about it.

[13:13] Everything is translated. Everything is

[13:15] translated. You won't lose anything even

[13:17] if you don't know Sanskrit. But

[13:18] sometimes nice to hear the sound of the

[13:21] ancient language. That's why I use it.

[13:24] And also it's easier for me to teach if

[13:26] I have got it in mind original words.

[13:28] Um six questions Arjuna asks.

[13:32] Prakriti and Purusha, what is what is

[13:33] nature and what is consciousness? Nature

[13:35] and spirit, oh Krishna.

[13:38] Basically, nature means all of this,

[13:40] including our bodies. It's all nature.

[13:43] Prakriti, nature, mother nature, it's

[13:45] all this.

[13:46] And who are we? We are sentient beings,

[13:48] conscious beings. So, this is the

[13:50] question of Arjuna, what is the the

[13:53] nature of nature?

[13:55] What is all this?

[13:56] And what are we? Most fundamental

[13:58] questions.

[14:00] And the same thing he asks in another

[14:01] way, using more technical terms.

[14:04] What is the field

[14:06] and what is the field knower?

[14:08] Field means all this.

[14:10] The whole universe is the field. And

[14:12] field knower? You. I, the sentient being

[14:15] who's experiencing all this. You can see

[14:17] it's the same question. Prakriti and

[14:19] Purusha, nature and and spirit, field

[14:21] and field knower. Instead of

[14:23] spirit, he uses the word field knower.

[14:25] Instead of nature, universe, he uses the

[14:28] word field. Field and field knower.

[14:31] And then he goes on further to ask, what

[14:33] is knowledge and what is to be known?

[14:36] What exactly constitutes knowledge and

[14:38] what do we have to know? Jnanam jneyam.

[14:40] Six questions.

[14:42] So, six questions and the 13th chapter

[14:44] is an answer to that.

[14:48] And now Krishna starts with the answer.

[14:51] Every day when we start, we will chant

[14:53] the verses. The morning we'll chant

[14:56] verses two and three and afternoon we'll

[14:59] chant these verses from eight to 12.

[15:04] So, those who like, you can repeat after

[15:06] me if you like.

[15:08] And I'll also read out the English

[15:09] translation.

[15:12] Shri Bhagavan uvacha.

[15:14] Shri Bhagavan uvacha.

[15:18] Idam shariram Kaunteya.

[15:21] Idam shariram Kaunteya.

[15:25] Kshetram

[15:47] >> The supreme divine lord said Arjuna,

[15:51] this body is termed as kshetra, the

[15:53] field of activities. And the one who

[15:55] knows this body is called kshetrajna,

[15:57] the knower of the field, by the sages

[16:00] who discern the truth about both.

[16:33] O sign of Bharata, I am also the knower

[16:36] of all these individual fields of

[16:38] activity. The understanding of the body

[16:40] as the fields of activity field of

[16:42] activities and the soul and God are then

[16:45] as the knowers of the field, this I hold

[16:47] to be the true knowledge.

[16:50] All right.

[16:52] In these two verses, basically the

[16:54] central insights of Vedanta are packed

[16:56] into these two verses. Very nice, very

[16:58] important two verses.

[17:00] And what we will do in the morning

[17:02] session

[17:04] and in the the two sessions in the

[17:06] morning

[17:07] we will do is explore this. We will do

[17:09] it three times.

[17:11] Today, tomorrow, and day after. Each

[17:14] time we will take a new approach to it.

[17:16] Understanding it deeply and more

[17:18] powerfully.

[17:20] These are different techniques in

[17:21] Vedanta just to unpack this these

[17:23] verses.

[17:25] What has been said here in these two

[17:27] verses?

[17:31] Remember

[17:33] the

[17:34] thing I quoted yesterday from

[17:35] Nisargadatta. Knowledge shows me I am

[17:38] nothing. Love shows me I am everything.

[17:42] Vedanta is to establish this one

[17:45] non-dual reality. There is one existence

[17:47] consciousness bliss which is appearing

[17:49] as the many. We only see the many right

[17:51] now and that's our problem. We don't see

[17:53] the underlying oneness, the underlying

[17:55] non-duality. Vedanta wants to show us

[17:58] that.

[17:59] The way it does is first first step in

[18:03] Vedanta

[18:04] asking the question who am I or what am

[18:06] I. Often we use who am I, but it leads

[18:10] to a confusion in our modern period

[18:12] because who am I is a big question for

[18:14] us. I'm out to discover who am I. Why

[18:16] did you drop out of college? Young

[18:17] people go, "I'm out to discover who am

[18:19] I." And basically the answer is in maybe

[18:21] I'm a guitarist or I am a

[18:24] you know, what kind of person am I? None

[18:25] of this is meant here. None of this is

[18:27] meant.

[18:29] Not what my profession should be, not

[18:31] even what kind of person am I, not not

[18:33] what my talents are. No, no, no. Those

[18:36] are all good questions.

[18:38] But between you and your parents or your

[18:40] counselors or whoever it is. But Vedanta

[18:42] is more interested in what are we

[18:44] exactly?

[18:46] What exactly? What kind of entity are

[18:48] we? What's our reality

[18:50] at the most fundamental level? That's

[18:52] the question.

[18:54] And remember the promise is if we

[18:56] discover that

[18:58] it will solve our problems

[19:00] at a very deep level, at the

[19:01] philosophical existential level.

[19:03] The payoff is very great. Vedanta says

[19:06] what's the goal the aim of all this the

[19:08] project

[19:09] atyantika dukha nivritti paramananda

[19:12] prapti in Sanskrit. A complete cessation

[19:15] of sorrow

[19:16] and the attainment of lasting deep

[19:18] lasting fulfillment.

[19:20] Peace and fulfillment. That's the goal.

[19:23] Biggest goal. There can't be any higher

[19:25] goal than that.

[19:26] How do I overcome sorrow, suffering,

[19:28] limitation, unhappiness? And how do I

[19:31] attain lasting peace? And the answer is

[19:33] remarkable.

[19:35] You have to know who or what you are.

[19:37] That means the answer to these questions

[19:39] is already there with us. Because I am

[19:41] here.

[19:42] And my problem is not because I'm

[19:45] unhappy. Not because I'm not rich.

[19:49] Not because I'm not healthy.

[19:52] Not because I'm not young.

[19:54] Not because I'm not famous.

[19:57] Now, these are we think these are the

[19:58] causes of my unhappiness. And if somehow

[20:00] I can if I can become rich enough or

[20:02] healthy enough or, you know, have lots

[20:04] of Facebook friends, then I'll be happy.

[20:07] But obviously that won't work. Look

[20:08] around.

[20:10] You see the richest people, the most

[20:11] famous people, more unhappy.

[20:14] So, that doesn't work.

[20:16] What

[20:17] works is, according to Vedanta, it will

[20:20] if we know who or what we truly are. It

[20:22] will solve our problems. So, biggest

[20:24] payoff

[20:25] The biggest payoff comes from

[20:27] self-knowledge, knowledge of who or what

[20:29] we are.

[20:30] So, the first step in Vedanta is to

[20:33] correct our error. Because when I say

[20:35] who am I or what am I, we immediately

[20:38] say I know that.

[20:40] Big deal. That's what you want to tell

[20:41] me. I know that. It's on my biodata.

[20:43] It's on my passport. It's on my

[20:46] you know, about me Facebook, my my

[20:48] website. It's

[20:49] No, that's uh your story.

[20:52] That's who we think we are. The story of

[20:55] this personality.

[20:57] Now, this that Vedanta says you are not

[20:59] that.

[20:59] So, what are we not and what am I?

[21:01] That's the first part of the Vedantic

[21:03] inquiry.

[21:05] And the second part

[21:06] what am I actually? What am I not?

[21:09] Discovering what I am and that I am is

[21:11] everything.

[21:13] That is the second part. And it's the

[21:16] the unity, the oneness of the universe,

[21:18] which will be shown to us.

[21:20] That is the second part.

[21:21] Um so that's that's what's there in

[21:23] these two verses. If you look at these

[21:25] two verses, again, match it with the

[21:27] Sarga Datta.

[21:29] That um knowledge shows me I am nothing

[21:31] in the sense I'm not the body, not the

[21:33] mind, what I thought I was. And love

[21:35] shows me I am everything, I'm one with

[21:37] the universe.

[21:39] In these two verses, what has been said?

[21:43] Krishna says to Arjuna,

[21:45] he says,

[21:47] "These bodies

[21:49] are called the field.

[21:52] And the one who experiences this body,

[21:54] knows this body, experiences this body,

[21:56] feels this body from within,

[21:59] that one is called the knower of the

[22:01] field."

[22:02] Seems very simple.

[22:04] And you, this body? Yes, okay. This call

[22:07] this the field.

[22:08] And you, the one who are who's

[22:09] experiencing this body from yourself,

[22:11] within yourself, I am this

[22:14] here I am.

[22:15] That one is called the knower of the

[22:17] field.

[22:18] That seems to be very simple.

[22:21] But the consequences are immense.

[22:24] Vedanta begins here.

[22:27] What he means by that is

[22:29] if

[22:31] I am the knower of the field and the

[22:33] body is the field,

[22:35] the knower and the known, the subject

[22:37] and the object, the seer and the seen,

[22:39] they cannot be the same thing.

[22:42] See, always the subject is different

[22:44] from the object. The knower is different

[22:47] from the known. This is this bouquet of

[22:49] flowers, the vase, it is the known. I

[22:51] can see it, I can touch it, I can smell

[22:53] it.

[22:55] So this is known and it is different

[22:57] from me, the knower.

[23:00] The known is always different. In

[23:01] grammar also, subject and object are

[23:03] different. You can't have the same

[23:05] thing. In philosophy also,

[23:06] self-reflexivity is not allowed. Subject

[23:09] and object are different. Consciousness

[23:11] and its objects are different. They're

[23:12] different from each each other. They're

[23:14] distinct.

[23:16] So, okay, I get it.

[23:18] What's the point?

[23:20] The point is here is the most amazing

[23:22] thing.

[23:23] When we look at the bodies, generally we

[23:25] refer to the body as

[23:27] I, me, myself. This is I.

[23:30] If we ask you to point out

[23:33] who are you, you will say and tell your

[23:35] name and your background, your

[23:36] qualifications, nationality, gender,

[23:38] whatever it is. Where is the point

[23:39] yourself out? Show me yourself. We'll

[23:42] always say this.

[23:44] I am here. So, we take the body to be

[23:46] ourselves. The most obvious. Nobody

[23:48] questions it. And Krishna starts by

[23:50] questioning that.

[23:53] He points out, you cannot be the body.

[23:56] Why?

[23:58] Because you experience the body.

[24:00] What?

[24:01] Of course, I experience the body. Big

[24:03] deal. So?

[24:05] Because you experience the body, the

[24:07] body must be an object of your

[24:09] experience. It's a thing which we

[24:11] experience.

[24:13] It's a form which we see.

[24:16] Uh it's a sound in When you

[24:18] close your eyes and listen, maybe you

[24:20] can hear your tummy rumbling or even

[24:21] your heartbeat.

[24:22] Sound which we hear. It's a touch.

[24:25] It's a smell. This body is something

[24:29] known by the senses. Something

[24:31] understood and remembered by the mind.

[24:33] It's an object.

[24:36] So?

[24:38] But all these are objects and none of

[24:40] them I say I am that. I am this one.

[24:44] We even for the clothes which I'm

[24:46] wearing, I don't say I am this shirt. I

[24:48] am this cloth. We don't say that.

[24:51] It's ridiculous. And the reason why we

[24:53] say we do not say that is these are

[24:55] things. These are objects. I'm not a

[24:58] thing.

[24:59] I'm not an object. I am the subject. I

[25:02] am the knower. I am the experiencer. I

[25:05] am the seer. I am conscious of What am I

[25:08] conscious of? Objects.

[25:11] I am that which is conscious. I'm not

[25:13] that which I'm conscious of.

[25:16] Therefore, I am not an object.

[25:19] And Krishna says, "All these objects,

[25:22] this entire material universe, it's the

[25:25] field." But specifically says, "This

[25:28] body is the field." Why is the body the

[25:31] field? Because you start with the body

[25:34] about things in the world and other

[25:36] bodies also. I don't think I am those.

[25:41] I don't feel that. I feel they are

[25:43] different from me.

[25:45] Even the clothes are different from me.

[25:47] Even the glasses, if I wear, are

[25:49] different from me. But with the skin

[25:52] a confusion starts.

[25:55] I know it's an object. I know it is

[25:58] something. And yet also I say, "I am

[26:00] it."

[26:02] Do you see? We must appreciate the

[26:03] problem first. It's a very basic

[26:05] fundamental problem. We automatically

[26:09] feel we are the body.

[26:12] And yet we now understand, we know yes,

[26:14] it is also an object.

[26:16] And Krishna is very

[26:18] categorical here. If it's an object, it

[26:21] can't be you.

[26:23] If you are the experiencer of the

[26:24] object, then you cannot be the object.

[26:28] The object is the field. This is the

[26:30] field and you are the knower of the

[26:31] field. The knower of the field and the

[26:34] object cannot be the same thing.

[26:36] Whatever is known is an object. And the

[26:39] knower is the field knower. Whatever is

[26:42] known is the object, the field, and the

[26:44] knower is the field knower. In Sanskrit,

[26:47] kshetra means field. Kshetrajna means

[26:50] field knower.

[26:51] And Krishna says, "Make distinction very

[26:54] clear in your mind."

[26:57] And

[26:58] we will see as we investigate this is a

[27:01] crucial distinction and we will

[27:02] investigate it today, tomorrow, day

[27:04] after each with a more powerful

[27:05] technique.

[27:07] This is answering who am I or what am I?

[27:09] How is it answering it? Because we

[27:11] thought we knew who am I, body.

[27:14] Mind.

[27:15] This is who I am.

[27:16] And Krishna is showing us, "No, even

[27:18] bodies and minds are objects. They are

[27:21] part of the field.

[27:23] You are not the field."

[27:28] You are the knower of the field,

[27:29] experience of the field.

[27:32] You are that which experiences. What

[27:34] experiences? Consciousness itself.

[27:37] So, you are consciousness itself, light,

[27:39] awareness itself.

[27:42] And then the question will arise,

[27:45] "All right, so I am not the body. I'm

[27:47] not even the mind because these are

[27:48] experienced. I am awareness. I am

[27:51] consciousness."

[27:53] Now, the question arises,

[27:55] "In all these bodies,

[27:58] in this body I am a consciousness, I am

[28:00] awareness.

[28:01] But in all these bodies,

[28:03] then there is a separate consciousness,

[28:05] separate awareness. Bodies are many, I

[28:07] can see.

[28:08] Our minds are also many. We are all

[28:10] different people.

[28:12] But the consciousness which is

[28:14] experiencing this body mind, the

[28:16] consciousness which is experiencing that

[28:18] body mind, are they different

[28:19] consciousnesses

[28:22] or one consciousness?"

[28:25] And what about God? Religion,

[28:26] spirituality, you didn't mention God at

[28:28] all.

[28:29] So, two questions will arise.

[28:31] In this scheme of field and field

[28:33] knower, how many field fields are many,

[28:35] we can see.

[28:37] How many field knowers are there? How

[28:39] many consciousnesses? How many selves?

[28:41] How many I's?

[28:43] I I I

[28:45] For you me you you you, but for each of

[28:47] us there's only one I, and everybody

[28:48] else is a you.

[28:50] So, how many selves, how many of us are

[28:52] here?

[28:54] Bodies, many, we can count.

[28:56] Minds, personalities, many, we can we

[28:58] can experience.

[28:59] But, the self beyond the body mind,

[29:02] knower of the field, how many? And

[29:04] second,

[29:05] question about God.

[29:08] In religion, question about God, where

[29:09] is God in all of this?

[29:11] And in the second verse, or the third

[29:13] verse in this list, Krishna answers that

[29:16] both of these questions in half a verse,

[29:18] in a short in a half sentence, actually.

[29:21] He says in Sanskrit, "Kṣetrajñaṃ cāpi

[29:25] māṃ viddhi sarvakṣetreṣu bhārata."

[29:28] He says,

[29:30] "In all these fields, in all these body

[29:33] mind complexes, in all these millions

[29:35] and billions of people and other

[29:37] sentient beings, there is only one

[29:40] consciousness.

[29:42] There's only one light,

[29:44] one awareness.

[29:46] And I am that." He says, "Oh Arjuna, I I

[29:50] means Krishna.

[29:51] I am that one consciousness in all

[29:53] beings." Remember, in the Gita, Krishna

[29:56] is an incarnation of God.

[29:58] So, both questions have been answered

[30:00] here. How many are here? How many

[30:02] consciousnesses? One consciousness.

[30:05] I think it was Schrödinger who said,

[30:07] "Consciousness is that singular which

[30:08] has no plural."

[30:11] These early quantum theorists, they're

[30:13] very interested in Vedanta. Very

[30:15] interested.

[30:18] Schrödinger, Heisenberg.

[30:23] I was reading a very

[30:25] evocative,

[30:27] touching, and scary description from

[30:30] Schrödinger's life, the the quantum

[30:32] theorist Schrödinger.

[30:34] After the First World War,

[30:38] he goes back to

[30:42] um

[30:43] Am I thinking of Schrödinger or von

[30:45] Heisenberg?

[30:46] He was in the army.

[30:48] First World War, Austro-Hungarian

[30:50] Empire. He goes back to Austria,

[30:53] Vienna. And at that time the

[30:55] Austro-Hungarian Empire had just

[30:56] collapsed. There was a lot of struggles,

[30:59] hungers, and you know, and even in the

[31:01] capital city in Vienna.

[31:02] So,

[31:06] Schrödinger says

[31:07] that

[31:08] it could be von Heisenberg. I'm making

[31:11] making making a mistake. But they were

[31:12] almost close. Heisenberg was younger

[31:15] and Schrödinger was older. I think it's

[31:17] Schrödinger. So, Schrödinger says,

[31:19] "There was hunger. There were food

[31:21] riots." And once he said, at that time

[31:23] he's reading Vedanta.

[31:25] And I've never seen such a

[31:27] scary description of Vedanta.

[31:29] Evocative, powerful description. He

[31:31] says, "I saw a policeman come on a

[31:33] horseback and supervising the

[31:34] distribution of food and the hungry

[31:37] hungry people."

[31:39] "And a crowd of women descended on the

[31:41] policeman, pulled him down from the

[31:43] horse, and beat him up. And they killed

[31:45] the horse and chopped the horse into

[31:47] pieces to take away the flesh back home

[31:48] to feed their children."

[31:50] And he says he stood there stunned to

[31:53] see the great the the death of the great

[31:55] beast

[31:56] and the bleeding heart of the horse

[31:59] being pulled out. In that

[32:02] big heart and the women hands covered

[32:04] with blood and shouting and screaming,

[32:07] he felt one consciousness everywhere.

[32:11] In the dying beast,

[32:13] in the hungry in the desperate women,

[32:17] in the bloodied heart of that beast

[32:19] being pulled out. He's standing there

[32:20] stunned, shocked, scared.

[32:23] He says it is somehow it is one being.

[32:27] In the dead, in the living,

[32:29] in the consumer, in the consumed, eater

[32:32] and the eaten.

[32:34] These are actually verses from the

[32:35] Upanishads, but in such a graphic form

[32:37] I've never read it.

[32:39] But he felt normally when we feel

[32:42] spirituality, religion, all very nice

[32:44] when things are fine.

[32:46] When things are horrible,

[32:49] our usual question is, "Where is God

[32:51] here? Where is your spirituality? Where

[32:53] is Vedanta or Buddhism? Where is it?"

[32:55] No, no, no, right there.

[32:58] Right there. Look at it. Don't shut your

[32:59] eyes to it.

[33:01] If it is true, if it is everywhere, it

[33:02] must be there also. If it is all the

[33:04] time, it must be in the worst of times

[33:06] also.

[33:07] If you can find it in the worst of time,

[33:09] in the worst of places, you can find it

[33:11] everywhere.

[33:12] I think that's one of the reasons why

[33:14] the Gita was taught in the battlefield,

[33:15] the worst place.

[33:17] The worst activity, human activity, of

[33:20] killing.

[33:21] If one can still retain spirituality in

[33:23] the midst of that,

[33:26] then one can have it everywhere.

[33:28] You'll find when things are good, you'll

[33:29] find it easily there. I remember when

[33:31] COVID started in New York,

[33:34] it was one of the worst hit cities of

[33:35] the world. At that time,

[33:38] um

[33:39] somebody asked me, I was giving a talk.

[33:42] Somebody asked me, "At this time also we

[33:43] have to think about Vedanta?"

[33:47] And I said,

[33:50] "If Vedanta is not useful to us at this

[33:52] time, then it is not worth it.

[33:54] Vedanta is meant for this time, in the

[33:56] time of crisis.

[33:59] Otherwise, you think when everything is

[34:00] fine, I'll go once in a week and listen

[34:04] to a nice philosophical talk. No, it

[34:06] should be available to us." Vivekananda

[34:07] says,

[34:09] "That spirituality or religion or

[34:11] philosophy

[34:12] which promises

[34:14] heaven after death, but cannot wipe the

[34:16] tears of the widow, or lift a piece of

[34:19] bread to the hungry mouth man's mouth, I

[34:21] do not care for such a philosophy or

[34:22] spirituality."

[34:25] So Vedanta must be applicable, useful to

[34:27] us right now.

[34:29] One consciousness. Krishna says, "I am

[34:32] the one knower of the field in all

[34:34] fields. Fields are many.

[34:36] Bodies are many. Persons are many. Minds

[34:39] are many. Beyond body and mind is one

[34:42] consciousness.

[34:44] And then Krishna identifies the God of

[34:47] Vedanta. What is the definition of God?

[34:48] What exactly is God? It is this one

[34:51] consciousness in the universe.

[34:53] It exists beyond the universe also, but

[34:55] in and through the universe. That just

[34:58] as we right now in our state we think of

[35:00] ourselves as this body.

[35:03] There is a being

[35:05] a consciousness which thinks of the

[35:06] universe as its body.

[35:10] I am all this. And we are all one in

[35:13] that that one consciousness.

[35:15] So Krishna identifies God

[35:17] and the knower of the field, one knower

[35:20] of the field in all if you truly know

[35:21] it. Right now we feel many fields and

[35:24] many knowers of the field. Krishna says

[35:26] there's one.

[35:27] Which means

[35:29] and a corollary, some implication we can

[35:32] draw from this is that um

[35:35] if we are all one consciousness, in in

[35:38] that sense we all must be one being.

[35:41] And this is also the basis of ethics

[35:45] of right and wrong, good and bad.

[35:47] Why must I be unselfish?

[35:51] Why must I be kind?

[35:53] Why must I be you know, do I must not

[35:56] hurt others?

[35:58] Why not? Why must I be nonviolent? Why?

[36:01] Why not be greedy? Why not be violent?

[36:04] Why not be possessive?

[36:06] Everything for I, me, myself. Because

[36:08] the answer is

[36:10] I there's only one I in all beings. We

[36:13] don't see that.

[36:16] So when I say I everything is for I, me,

[36:19] myself, we have a wrong idea of the I, a

[36:21] very limited, very imperfect, um

[36:25] troubled, disturbed idea of who I am.

[36:27] It's only this being. And therefore I

[36:29] want to grab everything for myself. The

[36:31] more I begin to realize I am in the life

[36:33] of all beings.

[36:36] Then ethics will come directly.

[36:39] Love will come directly from that.

[36:41] Oneness

[36:43] just as I take care of this body, this

[36:46] person as I I have to I take care of

[36:49] myself. Then myself will become all.

[36:53] And from that ethics comes.

[36:56] You know the golden rule of ethics

[36:59] of good and bad. The golden rule of

[37:00] ethics in all religions is one common

[37:02] idea is that to to treat others as you

[37:06] would have them treat you.

[37:09] It's found in all religions. In

[37:10] different ways it's found.

[37:12] In the United Nations if you go in New

[37:13] York headquarters, in the third floor

[37:16] there's a big rock inscription.

[37:19] The golden rule of all religions is to

[37:21] treat others as you would have them

[37:22] treat. As you want to be treated by

[37:24] others, you should treat others also in

[37:26] the same way.

[37:28] Because we are the generally apply a

[37:29] different standard to myself and to

[37:31] others.

[37:32] So same standard.

[37:34] Now this golden rule

[37:36] Vedanta gives you the answer why.

[37:38] Because one can question the golden

[37:40] rule. Why should I treat others as I

[37:42] treat myself? Because myself I am me. I

[37:45] am I. I am myself. And others are

[37:48] others.

[37:49] So why should I treat them like myself?

[37:52] And the answer in Vedanta you now find.

[37:53] Do you see the the logic this this logic

[37:56] here? The logic here is the others are

[37:58] not others.

[38:00] And myself is not myself this one.

[38:04] Myself and others are oneself.

[38:07] Vedanta will show us that.

[38:08] And that's why logic makes sense. That's

[38:11] why ethics makes sense. That's why this

[38:13] is the logic beneath underlying the

[38:16] golden rule of all religions.

[38:21] That's just an implication. Just by the

[38:23] way.

[38:24] So, Krishna answers both questions in

[38:27] that

[38:29] one

[38:31] half a sentence. He says in all beings

[38:34] that consciousness which is there, which

[38:35] is the knower of the field, it's one

[38:38] knower of the field. It's not different.

[38:40] The difference is caused by bodies.

[38:42] Difference is caused by minds,

[38:43] personalities. But if we truly know who

[38:46] or what we are, we would find I am one

[38:48] in all beings.

[38:50] And the universe is also one with us.

[38:52] This a little bit of Vedanta you have to

[38:54] see. In Vedanta this universe, just like

[38:56] all religions which are theistic, they

[38:58] say God created the universe. In Vedanta

[39:01] um

[39:02] God projected the universe out of

[39:05] himself, herself, itself. In Vedanta it

[39:07] could be.

[39:09] And you take your pick. Gender is not

[39:11] important. So,

[39:13] that reality it projected the universe

[39:15] out of it. So, what is this universe? It

[39:17] is nothing other than divine.

[39:20] So,

[39:21] in that case, if we are that one

[39:23] consciousness, you are one with God

[39:25] there and the universe is also one with

[39:27] you. And non-duality is established.

[39:29] This is just sort of the outline. We

[39:31] will see this in three different ways,

[39:32] today, tomorrow, and the after.

[39:34] As we go deeper.

[39:37] Basic idea. I've given this. This is the

[39:39] basic idea.

[39:41] Now, let's go deeper today. The first

[39:43] approach which we'll take up today,

[39:45] second approach tomorrow, and third

[39:47] approach the after tomorrow to see what

[39:49] who am I or what am I. That I am this

[39:52] consciousness. I am the knower of the

[39:54] field.

[39:55] The first approach is called

[39:58] Drig Drishya Viveka in Sanskrit, the

[40:01] discernment of the seer and the seen.

[40:05] You can see a theme here. Field and

[40:07] field knower, subject and object,

[40:09] consciousness and matter, seer and the

[40:10] seen.

[40:18] This path we will take it up now.

[40:21] Before I jump into it,

[40:28] there are three stages to

[40:31] um

[40:33] to this practice.

[40:35] You remember I yesterday I said hearing,

[40:37] reflecting, meditating.

[40:39] Let me make it even simpler. Hearing,

[40:42] reflecting, meditating. Three questions

[40:44] we must answer.

[40:46] What did he say? What did the text say?

[40:48] That's hearing.

[40:49] If I can answer that, I have heard.

[40:51] If I cannot answer that, I have to go

[40:53] back to hearing again.

[40:56] I don't I shouldn't go back to

[40:57] meditating. I shouldn't go back to

[40:58] argument. I first have to go back to the

[41:00] teaching.

[41:02] Without listening, what will I

[41:04] argue about? Without without downloading

[41:07] that information, what will I meditate

[41:09] about about? So, if the first answer is

[41:12] what did he say or what did the text

[41:13] say?

[41:14] That's one. I should be able to answer

[41:16] that. Number two is do I get it?

[41:20] Cuz I may hear it.

[41:22] I may know what the text said, but maybe

[41:23] I don't understand it.

[41:25] So, do I get it?

[41:27] If I don't get it If I get it, if it's

[41:29] clear to me, done. Second stage is

[41:31] completed. If I don't get it, then

[41:33] hearing again won't work. I have to

[41:35] think about it. What is it that I don't

[41:37] get? I have to argue about it. I have to

[41:38] question the teacher. I have to talk to

[41:40] other students until I get it. Study

[41:43] myself until I get it. So, second stage

[41:45] is completed when I say I get it.

[41:47] Third stage

[41:50] I've heard it. I understand it. Is it a

[41:53] fact? Is it real?

[41:57] Because something sometimes something I

[41:58] may get it, but it's still theoretical

[42:00] for me. I I I say sometimes people

[42:02] complain, "Yeah, I get it

[42:03] intellectually."

[42:05] But is it a living fact for me? Because

[42:07] Vedanta claims it's a living fact

[42:09] already.

[42:10] You are that already. So, is it a living

[42:12] fact for me.

[42:13] Do I really understand what is it to be

[42:16] I am consciousness, I am awareness?

[42:19] Or do I still feel the living fact is

[42:21] that I am this body?

[42:23] I'm this person.

[42:24] That That answer, that will become clear

[42:27] through meditation.

[42:29] Which converts my understanding

[42:32] into a living reality.

[42:36] The third question is, is it real?

[42:39] And one technique of keeping it real

[42:42] Americans have a phrase, keep it real.

[42:44] One technique of keeping it real

[42:47] is to see, is to observe, is to stick to

[42:50] reality.

[42:51] I give this example a monk told us once,

[42:53] you know,

[42:55] simple idea but very useful in Vedanta.

[42:57] Vedanta is very simple

[42:59] but it's also very powerful and it's

[43:01] also subtle. So, in in Vedanta you have

[43:03] to move very slowly. Don't jump too

[43:06] fast. Move very slowly. Each step must

[43:08] be clear to us. Each step must be What

[43:11] What did he say or what did the text

[43:13] say? Do I get it? And third, is it a

[43:16] fact?

[43:18] So, the way to keep it real, this monk

[43:21] told us,

[43:23] let's suppose you ask a child,

[43:25] what's a nose?

[43:27] What's a nose?

[43:29] The child will never say it is the organ

[43:31] of respiratory and olfactory sense organ

[43:34] unless it's memorized its homework.

[43:36] The child or she or he will will never

[43:38] say that. What will the child point out?

[43:40] This. Nose, this.

[43:42] This is a nose.

[43:44] This is called keeping it real.

[43:47] So, when in Vedanta

[43:49] at every stage, because the question is

[43:51] about ourselves, we are real. I'm here.

[43:54] When the question is about ourselves,

[43:56] just just point to what is being taught.

[44:00] Just point to what is being taught. We

[44:01] talk about the body. The body is the

[44:03] field. Don't think the body Ah, the body

[44:05] is the field. No, no, no. Body.

[44:07] Just like nose,

[44:09] point to it, the body.

[44:11] This is the field.

[44:13] Okay.

[44:14] If you say breath, if Vedanta talks

[44:15] about breath,

[44:17] don't think about all the prana, the

[44:19] force which keeps all bodies living, the

[44:23] which No.

[44:26] This is the breath.

[44:27] Point it out to yourself.

[44:30] When it talks about the mind, because at

[44:32] that time I can't help you help you

[44:33] anymore.

[44:34] Uh body I can point out. Breath I can

[44:37] point out.

[44:39] Mind, we must look inside for. We are

[44:41] all We all have minds. We're thinking

[44:43] all the time. The chattering is going on

[44:45] inside all the time.

[44:46] Memories, desires, questions. When it

[44:49] comes up, ah, that is the mind.

[44:52] Intellect, the power of understanding,

[44:54] knowing. Ah, I see. That is the

[44:56] intellect. Point it out to yourself.

[45:00] So, in this way, if you keep it real,

[45:02] when it comes to the field knower, when

[45:04] it comes to pure consciousness, at that

[45:06] point, it will be much easier to grasp

[45:08] what is being said. Otherwise, what will

[45:10] happen is at one point it will become

[45:12] theoretical.

[45:13] And then we will complain at one point

[45:15] it will become theoretical. And then we

[45:17] will complain,

[45:19] um I understood you

[45:21] intellectually,

[45:23] but it isn't real to me yet. Uh because

[45:25] at some point you let it stop being

[45:27] real.

[45:28] At some point we all went back into our

[45:30] heads thinking about it.

[45:32] That's all right. If something is

[45:33] distant, something is very small, like

[45:36] atoms or superstrings, if something is

[45:38] very distant, like a black hole or a

[45:39] galaxy, that's all right. You have to be

[45:41] in your head. You have to think about

[45:42] it. But what is being pointed out is not

[45:44] distant. It's right here. It's you.

[45:47] So,

[45:48] keep it real. Nose.

[45:54] It's very helpful to come to as close as

[45:57] possible to enlightenment. Some people

[45:59] might become enlightened, who knows?

[46:01] Uh Uh, or some at least become very

[46:02] close to it. At least we understand

[46:04] what's going on then.

[46:06] All right. Let's with that, let's jump

[46:08] into the method. Method, which which

[46:10] method? Method of seer and seen. Seer

[46:13] and seen.

[46:15] I will use a verse from um

[46:19] The meditation we'll do in the second

[46:20] session.

[46:21] I'll use a verse from a text called

[46:24] the method of seer and seen. That's the

[46:26] name of the text, Drig Drishya Viveka,

[46:28] discernment of the seer and the seen.

[46:30] So, a small text written about 600, 700

[46:33] years ago.

[46:35] The first verse is the most important

[46:38] verse of the whole text.

[46:40] I'll recite the verse and

[46:42] give you a translation, then we will

[46:44] explore it.

[47:03] First translation, then we'll explore.

[47:06] Forms are seen, the eyes are the seer.

[47:10] Eyes are seen, the mind is the seer.

[47:12] Mind is seen, witness consciousness is

[47:15] the seer. The witness consciousness is

[47:17] never seen.

[47:18] Just makes four statements. Forms are

[47:21] seen, eyes are the seer. Eyes are seen,

[47:24] mind is the seer. Mind is seen, witness

[47:26] consciousness is the seer. Witness

[47:28] consciousness is never seen.

[47:30] Okay.

[47:35] We will use this principle

[47:37] that the seer and the seen are distinct,

[47:40] separate.

[47:41] Notice,

[47:43] eyes are seeing, the flowers are seen.

[47:45] Flowers and the eyes are distinct,

[47:47] they're separate.

[47:48] In fact, the eyes can see whatever is

[47:51] separate from the eyes.

[47:53] The eyes cannot see themselves. You can

[47:55] You in the mirror and see your eyes. You

[47:56] can take a selfie and see your eyes. But

[47:59] the eyes cannot directly, the way they

[48:00] see this, they cannot directly see

[48:02] themselves.

[48:03] Yeah. So, whatever the eye sees is

[48:05] distinct from the eyes. Using this

[48:07] principle, and this is of course

[48:09] acknowledged in philosophy, in grammar,

[48:11] in epistemology, subject and object must

[48:13] be different. Consciousness and its

[48:15] objects must be different in that sense.

[48:18] So, we start that way.

[48:20] Seer and seen are different.

[48:23] Eyes, the first part says, eyes are the

[48:25] seer and the

[48:29] the forms are seen. Form means like

[48:31] color.

[48:32] This is form.

[48:34] Uh literally, the word Sanskrit word

[48:36] rupa means color, but it's expanded to

[48:38] mean form. Whatever the eyes can see is

[48:40] a form. All of these are forms. The eye

[48:43] see forms.

[48:45] And the forms must be distinct, separate

[48:47] from the eyes. Otherwise, the eyes

[48:48] cannot see them.

[48:49] That's number one. One more thing we

[48:51] notice. Forms are many.

[48:54] Colors are many. Shapes are many. Forms

[48:56] are many. Same pair of eyes sees all of

[48:59] them. The seer is one.

[49:02] The seen are many.

[49:05] Are you with me?

[49:06] Very simple.

[49:08] And the

[49:09] third thing that we notice is the seen

[49:12] keeps changing. The forms and colors and

[49:14] shapes keeps changing. As we go through

[49:16] our day, our eyes see so many different

[49:19] things. They're not only different,

[49:20] they're continuously changing. The eyes

[49:22] are not changing, however.

[49:25] Uh the seer is not changing. The seen

[49:27] are changing. So, let me sum up. Three

[49:29] points I'm making.

[49:31] Keep uh keep this in mind. The eyes and

[49:33] the whatever the eyes are seeing. Keep

[49:35] it real. Actually, don't think about it

[49:36] theoretically. Actually, look at it in

[49:38] the world.

[49:39] The eyes and the colors are different.

[49:43] The seer and seen are different. That's

[49:44] point number one. Number two, the the

[49:46] eyes being the same, the seen are many

[49:49] many many. The seer is one. The seen are

[49:52] many.

[49:53] Number three, the seer remains constant

[49:55] more or less.

[49:57] You might say technically if you want to

[49:59] argue the eyes are moving and the eyes

[50:01] keep changing. Yes, over time, but right

[50:03] now in comparison to this world

[50:06] the seen are changing, the seer is

[50:08] unchanging.

[50:09] Seer and seen are different. The seer is

[50:12] one, the seen are many. The seer is

[50:14] unchanging and the seen are changing.

[50:16] You with me?

[50:18] And you extend it further.

[50:20] Instead of eyes, use ears. Ears are the

[50:23] seer or hearer.

[50:26] And the sounds, music, noise,

[50:30] birds.

[50:34] Keep it real, huh?

[50:36] Listen.

[50:37] They are

[50:39] They are different from the ears. The

[50:41] ears being the same, the sounds are

[50:43] many.

[50:45] And the ears remaining the unchanging,

[50:46] the sounds are continuously changing.

[50:49] Instead of just the eyes, you can have

[50:50] eyes and ears and nose and skin and

[50:54] tongue. And they all The principle is

[50:55] the same.

[50:57] The seer and the seen are different.

[51:00] Seer is one, seen is many. Seer is

[51:02] unchanging, seen are

[51:04] um changing.

[51:06] Let's go deeper. Always remember, what

[51:08] did he say? Do I get it? Is it real?

[51:12] At this point we we should be able to

[51:13] say, yeah, yes to all three. Yes, I

[51:16] heard what you said. Yes, it's um I get

[51:19] it. It's very simple.

[51:21] You might be like, move on.

[51:24] And number three,

[51:26] um

[51:27] it's real. It's a fact.

[51:29] Then

[51:30] let's move on. The second part of this

[51:32] verse. The eyes are the seen and the

[51:34] mind is the seer. Now we recede, we step

[51:38] back from the world.

[51:40] From sight, sound, smell, taste, touch,

[51:43] push back.

[51:44] Come back to the senses.

[51:47] Now you notice the senses are also

[51:49] experienced. I open my eyes. I can

[51:52] experience my eyes are open. I close my

[51:54] eyes. I just experience my closed eyes.

[51:59] So, the eyes now become the object.

[52:02] Who is the subject? Eyes are now the

[52:05] field. Who is the field knower?

[52:07] Eyes are now the

[52:10] um

[52:10] you know,

[52:11] the known. Who is the knower of that?

[52:14] The seen. Who is the seer? The mind is

[52:16] the seer.

[52:18] Mind is the seer.

[52:20] The mind is aware of the eyes. Mind

[52:23] knows eyes are open. Mind knows eyes are

[52:26] closed.

[52:27] The mind is the seer not only for the

[52:29] eyes, also for the ears, for the nose,

[52:31] for the skin, for the um tongue. All

[52:34] sense organs dump their information into

[52:37] the mind. Mind is the central

[52:39] processing.

[52:41] So, mind is the seer and the eyes and

[52:43] other senses are the seen. Remember

[52:45] again, seer and seen are different.

[52:49] The mind is distinct from the eyes. Yes,

[52:51] but

[52:53] and the um sense organs are many and the

[52:57] sense inputs are many. The mind is one.

[53:01] Mind is full of thoughts, many thoughts,

[53:02] but it's still mind. So, the mind, the

[53:05] processing unit is one. The sources of

[53:07] information are many.

[53:09] And mind being constant, the senses are

[53:12] continuously changing. And say Swami,

[53:14] mind is not constant. Yes, mind is

[53:16] transformed thought into thought into

[53:17] thought, perception to perception to

[53:19] perception. Still mind.

[53:22] So, now we have the mind becomes the

[53:24] seer and the senses are the seen.

[53:28] Are you with me?

[53:29] You might say, "What about the world?"

[53:31] The world is always the seen.

[53:33] Before that, the seer was the senses.

[53:36] Now, the senses themselves have become

[53:37] part of the seen and the mind is the

[53:39] seer.

[53:43] You know what is going on here? What is

[53:44] the central question? Who am I?

[53:47] I always identify with the seer.

[53:51] I am seeing. I am hearing. I am knowing.

[53:55] I am aware.

[53:56] I am never on the other side.

[53:58] So it's important to to find out who am

[54:00] I. We are using the seer to find out who

[54:03] am I. Earlier, senses are the seer. Now,

[54:06] mind is the seer.

[54:09] Again,

[54:10] seer is one,

[54:12] the seen are many. Seer is unchanging,

[54:14] the seen are changing. Seer and seen are

[54:17] distinct.

[54:19] Go deeper. Third part. And now this

[54:21] becomes interesting.

[54:25] Keep it real.

[54:28] These three questions,

[54:30] at least I've heard what you said. If

[54:32] that has not so not been there in you,

[54:33] you're in trouble.

[54:36] If you have heard what has been said,

[54:37] second,

[54:39] I have understood what you're saying.

[54:40] Good, even better.

[54:41] Third, it's real for me. Excellent.

[54:44] It's not real, you still have hope. You

[54:46] can try to get get it real. If you've

[54:48] not understood, you still have hope.

[54:51] You can understand after some time.

[54:53] If you've not heard,

[54:57] then there's problem. You have to go

[54:59] back to the beginning again.

[55:01] All right.

[55:03] Third part. The mind itself becomes the

[55:06] seen, and the witness consciousness is

[55:08] the seer.

[55:09] First of all, let us see if the mind is

[55:11] the seen.

[55:12] Think a thought, A B C D. Right now

[55:14] think A B C D or 1 2 3 4.

[55:17] Or abracadabra, whatever it is. Think a

[55:19] thought.

[55:21] Or om, even better.

[55:23] That's a thought right now in in in the

[55:25] mind.

[55:26] Am I aware of the thought? Are you aware

[55:29] of the thought? Are you experiencing the

[55:30] thought? Yes.

[55:32] In that case, you,

[55:35] the knower of the thought, the seer of

[55:37] the thought.

[55:39] You are the seer and the thought is the

[55:41] seen. ABCD is the seen and you are the

[55:45] seer. Right now see if it's theoretical

[55:46] is a fact. It will be an absolutely

[55:49] clear fact. Think ABCD is just like

[55:51] mental talk. ABCD

[55:54] and yes, I'm aware of it.

[55:57] The seer and the seen are different.

[56:00] You, the one which is aware of ABCD, you

[56:03] cannot be ABCD.

[56:07] You are that which is experiencing ABCD

[56:09] in the mind.

[56:11] And number two,

[56:13] the seen are many, the seer is one.

[56:16] Indeed, so many thoughts come into the

[56:18] mind. ABCD, 1 2 3 4, abracadabra, om. So

[56:22] many thoughts are coming in the mind and

[56:24] going.

[56:25] So many thoughts, but the one which

[56:27] experiences that thoughts, the one which

[56:29] experienced ABCD is the same one which

[56:31] experienced 1 2 3 4 is the same one who

[56:33] experienced abracadabra, the same one

[56:36] who experienced om.

[56:39] Seer is one, the seen are many.

[56:43] And the seen are continuously changing.

[56:46] The thoughts, feelings, emotions,

[56:47] memories, sensations, they're all

[56:50] changing, a stream.

[56:53] The seer is unchanging.

[57:01] Seer is unchanging.

[57:03] I admit I am the same one.

[57:07] So this seer of the thoughts must be

[57:10] distinct from the thoughts.

[57:14] Here itself you see the application of

[57:16] it.

[57:17] If you are separate from the thoughts,

[57:19] then you are not tied to the thoughts.

[57:22] You are not the thoughts.

[57:26] If you stay with it, you will get a

[57:28] great relief.

[57:30] Immediately you see not enlightened in

[57:32] both these senses. I have understood

[57:34] something. Enlightened, light has come.

[57:37] I have understood. Oh, I'm not the mind.

[57:41] Mind series of thoughts seen. And

[57:44] enlightened, I feel lighter.

[57:47] Till now I was carrying the burden of

[57:49] the mind.

[57:50] Now I'm lighter.

[57:54] Lighter how? Those thoughts are there,

[57:56] the mind is still there. Mind is doing

[57:58] exactly what it was doing, but I am the

[58:00] seer of the mind. I am not the mind. I

[58:03] haven't put the mind on my shoulder like

[58:04] a big burden and carrying it.

[58:07] I am free of the mind. I am free of the

[58:10] mind when? Not only when the mind is

[58:12] stopped in meditation,

[58:14] but also when the mind is functioning.

[58:16] Then also I'm free of the mind.

[58:18] Just as in a movie screen, a movie's

[58:21] playing,

[58:22] but even when the movie's playing, the

[58:24] screen is free of the movie. If there's

[58:26] a fire in the movie, does the screen

[58:27] burn? No. If there's a flood in the

[58:30] movie, does the screen get wet? No.

[58:32] Because even when the movie's playing,

[58:34] the screen is completely free of the

[58:36] movie.

[58:37] Similarly, I, the screen of

[58:39] consciousness, am completely free of the

[58:42] mind,

[58:43] even when the mind is operating.

[58:49] Not just when the mind has been shut

[58:50] down.

[58:51] Freedom from the burden of the mind does

[58:54] not mean being mindless.

[58:58] Freedom from the burden of the mind

[59:00] means you're enlightened, that you

[59:01] realize I'm not the mind, and therefore

[59:04] light. And you say, "Oh,

[59:07] good."

[59:09] Mind is there. Mind will keep doing what

[59:11] it does. Memory will function, intellect

[59:13] will function, even ego will function.

[59:16] I am the witness of it all. I am the

[59:17] seer. Why?

[59:19] Not trying to be the seer. This is the

[59:21] beauty of Vedanta. It's pointing out you

[59:23] are the seer. You have no choice.

[59:25] You are the seer. The moment you ex- you

[59:27] say I experience the mind,

[59:30] I experience my feelings, my thoughts,

[59:32] my memories, in that case you are not

[59:35] your feelings or thoughts or memories.

[59:38] Somebody went to a monk and said, "I

[59:40] have so many problems." And the monk

[59:42] shouted back, "I'm not interested in

[59:44] your problems." So, "How cruel?"

[59:46] "No, I'm not interested in your

[59:48] problems. I'm interested in you."

[59:51] Which means you and your problems are

[59:53] not the same thing.

[59:55] Immediate freedom comes.

[59:57] I see.

[1:00:01] I tell this story so many times, but I

[1:00:03] love it. It's applicable here. How you

[1:00:05] apply this insight that a man went to a

[1:00:08] monk in the Himalayas and like you go to

[1:00:10] therapist here. So, say

[1:00:12] And the same problem, whether it's monk

[1:00:14] in Himalaya or or a therapist in Seville

[1:00:16] or Madrid, same problem. The problem is

[1:00:20] "I have so much suffering. I am

[1:00:22] miserable."

[1:00:23] And the monk said, "Do you experience

[1:00:26] your misery?"

[1:00:27] "Yes, I experience my misery." "Then you

[1:00:31] are the experiencer, the seer of your

[1:00:33] misery. The seer and seen are different.

[1:00:35] You and your misery are different

[1:00:37] because you experience it.

[1:00:39] If you are different, then you are not

[1:00:41] miserable.

[1:00:43] You are the knower, the seer, the the

[1:00:46] witness of your misery.

[1:00:48] Then it's not your misery. It has come.

[1:00:52] It was not there earlier, it has come.

[1:00:53] One day it will go away. Not only one

[1:00:55] day, every day it is going away. Every

[1:00:57] moment it is going away.

[1:00:59] Sometimes I remember it and I'm

[1:01:00] miserable. Sometimes I don't remember it

[1:01:03] and then I'm not miserable.

[1:01:05] So, I am free of my misery. Because you

[1:01:09] experience the misery, you are not

[1:01:11] miserable. Look at the amazing insight

[1:01:12] of Vedanta. Why do we say I'm miserable?

[1:01:15] Because I experience misery. Why do I

[1:01:17] say I'm depressed? Because I'm

[1:01:18] experiencing depression.

[1:01:20] And Vedanta says if you experiencing

[1:01:22] depression, you cannot be depressed."

[1:01:25] Because you are the experiencer, you are

[1:01:27] the seer. The seer and the seen are

[1:01:28] different.

[1:01:31] You are experiencing a depression in the

[1:01:33] mind.

[1:01:35] You are the watcher of that, the

[1:01:36] experiencer of that, the illuminer of

[1:01:38] that, the light shining on that. The

[1:01:40] light is not depressed.

[1:01:43] Just because the eyes are seeing a

[1:01:45] yellow flower, do the eyes become

[1:01:46] yellow? No.

[1:01:48] No.

[1:01:50] Entirely free. Next moment eyes will see

[1:01:52] red flower. Then you see green leaf.

[1:01:55] Eyes do not become yellow, red, or

[1:01:57] green.

[1:01:58] Absolutely not. Similarly, as the mind

[1:02:01] keeps changing,

[1:02:03] you are the illuminer of the mind. You

[1:02:05] are free of the mind. So, this man who

[1:02:08] went and asked the monk, "I'm

[1:02:09] miserable." The monk said, "You are not

[1:02:10] miserable. You are the knower, the seer

[1:02:13] of your misery, and ever free of

[1:02:14] misery."

[1:02:16] When you're not miserable, so then this

[1:02:18] man went and thought that way. And if

[1:02:20] you think this way, you'll feel a

[1:02:21] freedom.

[1:02:23] Light.

[1:02:24] Free.

[1:02:25] And the man came back and said to the

[1:02:27] monk, "Oh monk, you are right.

[1:02:30] I'm not miserable. I'm so peaceful now."

[1:02:32] And the monk said, "No, you are not

[1:02:34] peaceful. You are the witness of the

[1:02:35] peace in the mind."

[1:02:37] Ah, that you have to be careful.

[1:02:40] The mind is very very subtle.

[1:02:43] The moment the mind calms down, mind

[1:02:46] realizes, "This fellow is escaping."

[1:02:49] So, I'm not the misery of the mind. Mind

[1:02:50] calms down, "Okay, I'm very peaceful

[1:02:52] now." And we are very innocent. We say,

[1:02:54] "Ah, so I am also very peaceful now."

[1:02:56] The monk pointed out, "No, that's the

[1:02:58] peace of the mind. That's the misery of

[1:03:01] the mind. You are free of both."

[1:03:03] The moment you say, "I'm peaceful." When

[1:03:05] the mind is peaceful and I say, "I'm

[1:03:06] peaceful." I'm trapped again. Cuz next

[1:03:08] moment the mind will again become

[1:03:09] misery. It'll mind will think, "I've got

[1:03:11] gotcha."

[1:03:13] Captured you.

[1:03:15] And next the mind will become miserable,

[1:03:16] and we also feel miserable. No.

[1:03:19] You are free of the misery of the mind,

[1:03:21] you're free of free of the peace of the

[1:03:22] mind also. When you're free of the peace

[1:03:24] of the mind and the misery of the mind,

[1:03:26] then what are you? Are you peaceful or

[1:03:28] miserable? You are peace itself. That

[1:03:31] peace

[1:03:32] Jesus says in the Bible, the peace that

[1:03:34] passeth understanding. Literally,

[1:03:37] Vedanta will interpret that literally.

[1:03:38] Understanding mind.

[1:03:40] Peace that passeth understanding, the

[1:03:42] self, the witness self.

[1:03:44] The witness self

[1:03:46] transcends the mind.

[1:03:48] And the witness self, which you are,

[1:03:50] which we are,

[1:03:51] is the peace that passeth the mind.

[1:03:54] Peace that passeth understanding. You

[1:03:56] are peace itself. The peace which cannot

[1:03:58] be disturbed. The peace of the mind can

[1:04:00] be disturbed.

[1:04:02] Next moment, it's always threatened.

[1:04:05] Strait of Hormuz, it is always

[1:04:08] sometimes open, sometimes closed.

[1:04:14] So, mind is like that.

[1:04:16] But you are the peace that can never be

[1:04:20] threatened.

[1:04:21] You are the witness of the peace of the

[1:04:22] mind. You're the witness of the absence

[1:04:24] of peace in the mind also.

[1:04:27] When the mind is disturbed, be happy. It

[1:04:29] is showing to you that you are not

[1:04:31] disturbed.

[1:04:39] Dhiravrittaya sakshi, Sanskrit is the

[1:04:43] movements of the mind and you are the

[1:04:44] witness of these movements.

[1:04:48] Another point here.

[1:04:49] Don't try to be the witness. And people

[1:04:52] immediately fall into this trap.

[1:04:55] Because there are techniques of

[1:04:57] witnessing the mind. And Buddhist

[1:04:59] mindfulness techniques are there, yogic

[1:05:01] mindfulness techniques are there.

[1:05:02] They're very good. They're very good.

[1:05:04] Very useful exercises, but they're

[1:05:06] exercises. Like any exercise, it's a

[1:05:09] beginning and an end.

[1:05:10] Depends on effort.

[1:05:13] But the witness we are talking about

[1:05:15] here does not depend depend on effort.

[1:05:17] It's already a fact.

[1:05:18] In Sanskrit there's a word siddha.

[1:05:21] Established.

[1:05:22] It's already established. It doesn't

[1:05:24] have to be established. Doesn't depend

[1:05:26] on us. Thank God, we are very

[1:05:28] unreliable.

[1:05:29] Doesn't depend on us.

[1:05:31] It's already done.

[1:05:35] You're the already established witness,

[1:05:37] regardless of who or what you are.

[1:05:39] Suppose a person has no interest in

[1:05:40] Vedanta or spirituality. Is he or she

[1:05:43] the witness? Of course.

[1:05:44] Just doesn't know it.

[1:05:46] Just doesn't see it.

[1:05:49] In fact, when Vedanta teacher was

[1:05:51] reading about it, 1950s,

[1:05:54] a schizophrenic person was brought to

[1:05:56] him.

[1:05:58] A very disturbed mind. A storm in the

[1:06:01] mind.

[1:06:02] Luckily at that point when he was

[1:06:04] brought to this teacher, this this man

[1:06:06] was lucid for a while.

[1:06:08] And the teacher said to him,

[1:06:11] "You are the watcher of the storm. You

[1:06:13] are not the storm."

[1:06:15] And that's all.

[1:06:17] And afterwards again those psych- those

[1:06:20] schizophrenic episodes would come

[1:06:22] to this man,

[1:06:24] but he was much better. He had a much

[1:06:26] Immediate relief was observed.

[1:06:31] He remains as the eye of calm in the

[1:06:34] middle of the the eye of the storm.

[1:06:36] There's a moment of calm in The mind in

[1:06:38] storm is that schizophrenic episode.

[1:06:41] There are brain reason There are reasons

[1:06:43] in the brain, physical reasons for it.

[1:06:45] And psychological reasons for it. But

[1:06:48] you are neither physical nor

[1:06:49] psychological. The realm of the

[1:06:51] physical, the realm of the psychological

[1:06:53] is the field. You're the field knower.

[1:06:57] You're the light which illumines the

[1:06:59] psychological and the physical. You're

[1:07:00] neither physical nor psychological.

[1:07:05] All right. So I am the witness

[1:07:07] consciousness. The witness

[1:07:08] consciousness, remember, seer and seen

[1:07:10] are different. You, the witness

[1:07:12] consciousness, you are different from

[1:07:14] the mind.

[1:07:15] Seen.

[1:07:16] The mind is many many many many

[1:07:18] thoughts, feelings, emotions. The

[1:07:20] witness consciousness is one.

[1:07:23] The mind is continuously changing.

[1:07:25] The witness consciousness is unchanging.

[1:07:27] That one

[1:07:30] transcendent witness consciousness,

[1:07:32] unchanging, I am.

[1:07:36] Don't try to be. You are already that.

[1:07:39] If you try to be, you're asking for

[1:07:40] trouble.

[1:07:42] Because then what will happen is you

[1:07:44] will grasp hold of you will grasp hold

[1:07:46] of a peaceful state of the mind and we

[1:07:48] call it ah, so this must be the witness.

[1:07:50] Then I must try to maintain that

[1:07:52] peaceful state of the mind. And then

[1:07:53] I'll complain to the Swami, sometimes it

[1:07:55] works, mostly it doesn't work.

[1:07:58] No.

[1:07:59] That peace which you are, the peace that

[1:08:01] passeth understanding, does not depend

[1:08:03] on the understanding. It's already

[1:08:04] there.

[1:08:06] The mind can only cover it up in

[1:08:08] ignorance or reveal it in knowledge. But

[1:08:11] what is covered up and what is revealed

[1:08:12] is always there.

[1:08:14] You are that.

[1:08:17] Supposing I don't understand all this.

[1:08:20] You're still that witness consciousness.

[1:08:23] You just don't see it.

[1:08:24] Suppose you I understand it. I get it

[1:08:27] now or I'm beginning to get it. That's

[1:08:28] great. Then you see it. But you are

[1:08:31] still that same witness consciousness.

[1:08:34] Doesn't depend on our effort. The

[1:08:35] understanding depends on our effort. But

[1:08:37] being the witness consciousness does not

[1:08:39] depend on effort. It's already a fact.

[1:08:41] You are that. You are the knower of the

[1:08:43] field, the witness consciousness. The

[1:08:45] word used here is sakshi, witness

[1:08:47] consciousness.

[1:08:48] Word used by Krishna is knower of the

[1:08:50] field, kshetrajna.

[1:08:53] And therefore, you are not the body.

[1:08:55] Why? The body is the witnessed is the

[1:08:58] field.

[1:08:59] You are the you You this is body is the

[1:09:01] seen. You are the seer.

[1:09:04] We are not even the mind. The mind is

[1:09:06] the scene. I am the seer.

[1:09:08] It's the witnessed. I am the witness.

[1:09:11] It's the illumined. I am the illuminer.

[1:09:14] It is the field. I am the knower of the

[1:09:16] field.

[1:09:17] What is the definition of the field

[1:09:19] which Krishna said?

[1:09:21] Idam shariram konteya this body is the

[1:09:23] field. That which is known. It could be

[1:09:26] a physical body. It could be a subtle

[1:09:27] body, the mind. The mind is also a body.

[1:09:30] Just as the physical body has parts and

[1:09:32] hands and legs and organs and tissues,

[1:09:34] mind is also has parts. There are

[1:09:36] complexes, there are thought patterns,

[1:09:38] there are memories, there are desire

[1:09:40] patterns and all of those are there.

[1:09:42] They're parts. It's also a body.

[1:09:44] Which we inhabit.

[1:09:46] Which we illumine. But you are free of

[1:09:47] them regardless.

[1:09:49] I'm free of these clothes even when I'm

[1:09:51] wearing them. I can change them also.

[1:09:53] But I am not stuck to these clothes. Nor

[1:09:56] are they stuck to me. Similarly, the

[1:09:59] mind is not stuck to you.

[1:10:01] In fact, at every moment it is showing

[1:10:03] us it is I'm not sticking to you. The

[1:10:04] mind is non-stick. It's flowing all the

[1:10:06] time.

[1:10:10] So,

[1:10:12] I am the witness consciousness. This is

[1:10:14] who I am.

[1:10:17] This is part one of the entire process.

[1:10:21] Part two.

[1:10:23] I have now separated myself from

[1:10:25] everything.

[1:10:26] You see, if I am not that which I am

[1:10:28] aware of, then everything I'm separate

[1:10:30] from.

[1:10:31] I'm aware of the world, so I'm not the

[1:10:33] world. I'm not the forms, sight, smell,

[1:10:35] taste, touch.

[1:10:37] I am not the thoughts. I am not the

[1:10:38] memories. I am not the desires. I am not

[1:10:40] even this personal identity. I am aware

[1:10:43] of all of them. They're separate from

[1:10:44] me. I am just bare light itself. One

[1:10:47] might ask the question, "Why did you say

[1:10:49] witness consciousness? Where did that

[1:10:50] come from?"

[1:10:52] Notice two things. Whatever it is, I

[1:10:54] exist.

[1:10:56] Even if I'm not the body, I still exist.

[1:10:58] I can directly feel I exist.

[1:11:00] I'm not the body. Why? Because the body

[1:11:02] is the scene. I'm the seer.

[1:11:05] Even if I'm not the mind, I exist. Why

[1:11:08] am I not the mind? Because the mind is

[1:11:09] the scene. I am the seer.

[1:11:13] But even when I'm not the body, not the

[1:11:15] mind, I don't disappear. Because I

[1:11:17] continue to exist. I am the seer of

[1:11:19] Because I'm I'm seeing the body,

[1:11:21] experiencing the body, clearly I exist.

[1:11:24] Because I'm seeing or experiencing the

[1:11:26] mind, clearly I exist.

[1:11:29] You had here a neighboring country in

[1:11:31] France, the great philosopher Descartes,

[1:11:33] cogito ergo sum.

[1:11:35] I think, therefore, I am.

[1:11:38] My own existence cannot be doubted.

[1:11:40] Nobody You can doubt the existence of

[1:11:42] God. You can. You can be an atheist,

[1:11:45] agnostic.

[1:11:46] But try to doubt your own existence.

[1:11:48] You cannot.

[1:11:50] Even when I say I'm not the body, I'm

[1:11:52] sure I exist, though I'm not the body.

[1:11:55] Even when I feel I'm not the mind, I'm

[1:11:57] the witness of the mind, still I exist.

[1:12:00] Now my question is, right now when I

[1:12:02] exist as a before Vedanta, so exist,

[1:12:05] what are you made of? Oh, I'm made of

[1:12:06] flesh and bones and blood and But if I

[1:12:09] say I'm not the body, I can't say I'm

[1:12:10] made of flesh and bone and What am I?

[1:12:13] I'm thoughts, emotions. But if I'm not

[1:12:15] the mind, then I'm not even thoughts,

[1:12:16] emotions, memories. What am I?

[1:12:20] Question is, what am I made of if I'm

[1:12:22] not the body?

[1:12:23] If I'm not the mind.

[1:12:25] One thing is sure, I exist. And I am

[1:12:29] aware. That also I'm sure.

[1:12:32] It's not an unaware existence. It's not

[1:12:34] a non-existent awareness. Existence and

[1:12:36] awareness are going together.

[1:12:39] This existence and awareness going

[1:12:41] together

[1:12:43] There's a word new word I'm seeing is

[1:12:45] being used for it. I like it very much.

[1:12:47] It's called presence.

[1:12:49] The The word presence

[1:12:52] in English, it has the

[1:12:55] nuance of existence.

[1:12:57] It also has the nuance of awareness,

[1:12:59] being present.

[1:13:02] Presence, being

[1:13:04] or witness or witness consciousness.

[1:13:08] These are different words you can say.

[1:13:09] That's what I am. I'm made of existence,

[1:13:12] I'm made of awareness.

[1:13:15] If I'm body, I'm made of bones.

[1:13:19] There's an old American folk song, Dem

[1:13:21] Bones. Have you heard Anybody

[1:13:23] Have you heard of it? Some of you?

[1:13:25] No. Very nice song.

[1:13:27] The skeleton, it's about the skeleton.

[1:13:29] How the skeleton is going through life.

[1:13:30] Right now, it's only a skeleton which is

[1:13:32] going through life. We've covered it

[1:13:33] with what with

[1:13:35] uh flesh and uh skin and all that and

[1:13:37] clothes, but basically Dem Bones going

[1:13:39] through life.

[1:13:45] If I'm body, then I'm Dem Bones.

[1:13:48] If I'm mind, then I'm Dem Thoughts.

[1:13:52] But if I'm not the body, not the mind,

[1:13:53] what I am? What am I?

[1:13:55] Dem Consciousness.

[1:13:58] Dem Awareness. Dem Light.

[1:14:01] Much better to be Awareness,

[1:14:03] Consciousness, Light. Much better to be

[1:14:04] Witness Consciousness than Dem Bones.

[1:14:08] Now the big question arises.

[1:14:12] Then, all right. So, if I accept I am

[1:14:14] Consciousness

[1:14:16] big advantage big freedom, enlightened,

[1:14:19] light, free.

[1:14:21] Not heavy.

[1:14:22] But then, question will now arise. Now I

[1:14:24] look back upon what I have left behind.

[1:14:28] I've left behind the universe, field.

[1:14:30] I've left behind the body, it is field.

[1:14:32] I've left behind the mind, it is field.

[1:14:35] I am the field knower. But what is my

[1:14:37] relation with the field?

[1:14:40] What is the field to me? Is it something

[1:14:42] outside me?

[1:14:44] Consciousness, an outside consciousness.

[1:14:48] Am I related to me? Is it part of it

[1:14:50] part of me? Am I part of it?

[1:14:53] Or are we one and the same?

[1:14:55] These questions whole of philosophy is

[1:14:58] meant to answer these questions.

[1:15:01] Idealism, realism, materialism, these

[1:15:03] are various answers.

[1:15:05] If I, the consciousness, I am born from

[1:15:08] the field like a plant from the field,

[1:15:11] this materialism.

[1:15:12] All of what I just said

[1:15:15] a straightforward materialist

[1:15:16] reductionist of physicalist these are

[1:15:19] various terms being used. A doctor

[1:15:22] materialist scientist will say, "I have

[1:15:24] no objection to what you're saying. I

[1:15:26] just want to add one more thing. This

[1:15:28] witness consciousness you're talking

[1:15:29] about, this awareness, this sakshi,

[1:15:31] whatever you're talking about, knower of

[1:15:32] the field, basically a byproduct of your

[1:15:35] brain activities.

[1:15:36] Ultimately, it's the body, it's the

[1:15:38] nervous system, it's the brain. You may

[1:15:40] think you're separate from the body, but

[1:15:42] you're being produced by the body.

[1:15:45] That's a materialist.

[1:15:50] What is my relationship with matter?

[1:15:53] I am consciousness. What's my

[1:15:54] relationship with matter? Is matter my

[1:15:56] mother? Does it give birth to me?

[1:16:00] Is it part of me?

[1:16:02] I and matter we are part of the same

[1:16:04] system.

[1:16:06] Or are they entirely distinct and we are

[1:16:09] interacting? That we are interacting,

[1:16:10] there's no doubt about it.

[1:16:12] I am interacting with matter.

[1:16:14] So, different philosophies answer in

[1:16:16] different ways.

[1:16:18] Materialism will say you are a product

[1:16:20] of matter.

[1:16:21] You are ultimately one scientist put it

[1:16:24] he had a

[1:16:25] glass of he had a bottle of Coke in

[1:16:27] front of him.

[1:16:28] He said, "According to I'm sorry to say,

[1:16:31] but according to physicalism,

[1:16:34] you know, mainstream modern science,

[1:16:36] we are the fizz in that Coke bottle. The

[1:16:39] bottle is fizzing.

[1:16:42] So, the body and the brain nervous

[1:16:44] system and the hormones and the

[1:16:47] chemicals in this body they're fizzing

[1:16:50] and it fizzes you.

[1:16:53] After some time what happens to the fizz

[1:16:55] in the Coke bottle? Gone.

[1:16:59] Bottle will remain, Coke will remain,

[1:17:01] fizz is gone. Similarly, body will

[1:17:03] remain, matter will remain, you are

[1:17:05] gone.

[1:17:07] All your consciousness light

[1:17:09] lights out the moment

[1:17:11] death physical body falls apart the

[1:17:13] matter will remain and you're dead.

[1:17:18] That is physicalism.

[1:17:20] Samkhya philosophy, very ancient

[1:17:22] philosophy

[1:17:23] says that

[1:17:25] there is matter, there is the field and

[1:17:28] there is the field knower. There is

[1:17:29] matter and there is consciousness. You

[1:17:31] cannot deny consciousness is not

[1:17:33] produced by matter, matter is not

[1:17:35] produced by consciousness. They are two

[1:17:36] distinct realities and they interact.

[1:17:40] Very ancient philosophy Samkhya, they

[1:17:42] call it Prakriti and Purusha,

[1:17:44] consciousness and nature.

[1:17:47] Consciousness is fundamental, it's not

[1:17:49] produced by the body. It acts through

[1:17:50] the body, interacts in the body.

[1:17:54] Body is produced by nature, mother

[1:17:56] nature.

[1:17:58] Modern panpsychist theories of

[1:18:00] consciousness, they also say this.

[1:18:02] Consciousness is a fundamental reality

[1:18:03] of this universe. It cannot be reduced

[1:18:05] to matter, matter cannot be reduced to

[1:18:07] consciousness also.

[1:18:09] One theory.

[1:18:11] What does Advaita Vedanta say about it?

[1:18:15] The sixth verse I think in this book

[1:18:16] which I was quoting seer and seen.

[1:18:19] Sixth verse says

[1:18:34] It says in this ocean of consciousness

[1:18:37] which you are. You are this

[1:18:38] consciousness, witness consciousness.

[1:18:40] The entire universe is like a network of

[1:18:44] names and forms

[1:18:46] appearing in you, the consciousness.

[1:18:48] Just like foam on the surface of the

[1:18:51] ocean.

[1:18:53] You are the ocean. The universe is the

[1:18:55] foam on your surface. Like that.

[1:18:58] The foam is nothing distinct from the

[1:18:59] ocean.

[1:19:01] It's appearing on the surface, looks

[1:19:02] distinct, like a layer.

[1:19:05] I was just thinking, some of the latest

[1:19:07] thinking about the the universe, they're

[1:19:09] saying it's quantum foam.

[1:19:12] Now, very interesting, the language. Of

[1:19:14] course, I'm not saying that the same

[1:19:15] thing, but the language is so similar.

[1:19:18] What Vedanta says is the entire universe

[1:19:22] is also nothing but this existence

[1:19:25] consciousness which you are. You are

[1:19:26] this existence consciousness. And you

[1:19:28] are this Krishna says you're this one

[1:19:30] existence consciousness in all beings.

[1:19:33] And all these beings, the bodies, the

[1:19:35] minds, the physical universe is like

[1:19:37] foam on the surface of this ocean of

[1:19:39] existence consciousness. Is the universe

[1:19:42] is names and forms appearing in

[1:19:44] consciousness.

[1:19:47] What appears in consciousness is not

[1:19:49] distinct from consciousness. The foam is

[1:19:52] not distinct from the ocean.

[1:19:54] The universe is you.

[1:19:57] The universe is you

[1:19:59] appearing to yourself as your own

[1:20:01] object.

[1:20:03] The seer and the seen now is no Notice,

[1:20:06] it is the same thing.

[1:20:08] The seen is just like foam appearing in

[1:20:11] the ocean of the seer.

[1:20:15] At this point, follow this carefully,

[1:20:16] very subtle point, an amazing point. At

[1:20:18] this point, you must immediately object.

[1:20:20] Didn't you start the first thing you

[1:20:22] said, seer and seen are different? Now

[1:20:24] you're saying seer and seen are the

[1:20:25] same?

[1:20:26] Ah, notice, I said, Vedanta said, the

[1:20:30] seer is distinct from the scene.

[1:20:34] Consciousness is distinct from matter.

[1:20:38] The knower of the field is distinct from

[1:20:40] the field.

[1:20:41] But we never said that the scene is

[1:20:43] different from the seer. We never said

[1:20:45] that matter is different from

[1:20:47] consciousness. We never said that the

[1:20:48] field is different from the field

[1:20:50] knower.

[1:20:52] Let me repeat.

[1:20:53] Till now I have said Vedanta has said

[1:20:56] seer is distinct from the scene.

[1:20:59] But it did not say that the scene is

[1:21:01] distinct from the seer.

[1:21:03] So what does that mean? How is that

[1:21:05] possible?

[1:21:07] The flowers are distinct from the vase.

[1:21:10] But the vase is also distinct from the

[1:21:11] flowers. I can separate them. I can show

[1:21:13] you the flower vase separately. I can

[1:21:15] show you the flowers separately.

[1:21:18] What do you mean that the scene is not

[1:21:20] different from this

[1:21:21] seer?

[1:21:22] Think about

[1:21:24] the table and the wood.

[1:21:27] The wood is distinct from the table.

[1:21:29] Before it was a table, it was wood.

[1:21:31] Now it is sitting on table. After the

[1:21:33] table is broken and sold for scrap, it

[1:21:35] will still be wood.

[1:21:38] The wood can exist without the table.

[1:21:40] The table cannot exist without the wood.

[1:21:43] The table is not distinct from the wood.

[1:21:44] It cannot exist separately. Can I can

[1:21:46] show you the flowers and the vase

[1:21:48] separately. Can I show you the table and

[1:21:50] the wood separately? I cannot because

[1:21:52] they are not two different things.

[1:21:54] They are one thing.

[1:21:56] And here what is fundamental? The wood

[1:21:58] is fundamental. The table has come. It's

[1:22:00] a name and form imposed on the function

[1:22:02] imposed on the wood.

[1:22:04] Similarly, waves and water, the foam and

[1:22:07] the ocean.

[1:22:09] The waves The water can exist without

[1:22:11] the waves. It can be no waves, calm

[1:22:13] water.

[1:22:14] But the waves cannot exist without the

[1:22:16] water. The waves are the water.

[1:22:20] Similarly, Vedanta is claiming the

[1:22:22] scene, the field, the object

[1:22:25] is not different from the seer, the

[1:22:27] knower of the field, consciousness, you.

[1:22:30] You and the universe are not different.

[1:22:32] You are distinct from the universe, but

[1:22:34] the universe is not distinct from you.

[1:22:39] It's a great great secret to understand.

[1:22:43] Therefore, this entire universe which

[1:22:45] appears to you, the witness

[1:22:47] consciousness, is not distinct from you,

[1:22:49] the witness consciousness. Yes, I still

[1:22:51] hold what the first thing we said, you

[1:22:53] the witness consciousness are distinct

[1:22:55] from it.

[1:22:56] Imagine our dreams, most powerful

[1:22:58] example, our dreams.

[1:23:01] Whatever we see in the dream,

[1:23:04] we are distinct from it. We are not

[1:23:06] involved there. We are projecting it.

[1:23:09] All the people, the activities, the

[1:23:10] places that we see in the dreams,

[1:23:13] we were there before the dream, we're

[1:23:15] there during the dream, we'll be there

[1:23:16] after the dream.

[1:23:18] But the dream, the contents of the

[1:23:20] dream, are not distinct from us.

[1:23:22] The contents of the dream are not

[1:23:24] distinct from the dreamer.

[1:23:26] The places you see in the dream, can

[1:23:28] they exist if you don't see them? They

[1:23:30] don't.

[1:23:31] The moment you wake up, they are gone.

[1:23:34] The places you see in the dream, the

[1:23:36] people you met in the dream, the act the

[1:23:38] things the events which happened in the

[1:23:40] dream, they depend entirely on you, the

[1:23:42] dreamer.

[1:23:43] They are not distinct. They are not They

[1:23:45] are not separate.

[1:23:47] Like here in the waking state, I, this

[1:23:50] physical body, this person, and this

[1:23:52] hall, we are separate. Right now, I am

[1:23:53] in the hall, but I can leave the hall,

[1:23:55] the hall will exist, I will exist

[1:23:56] separately.

[1:23:57] But not so in the dream.

[1:23:59] In a dream, if you're dreaming of a

[1:24:01] hall, the moment you wake up, the hall

[1:24:03] is gone.

[1:24:05] Similarly, the

[1:24:08] final conclusion about the universe in

[1:24:10] Vedanta is this universe is an

[1:24:12] appearance in you. You are the dreamer,

[1:24:16] and the universe is the dream.

[1:24:18] You are distinct from the universe, but

[1:24:20] the universe is not distinct from you.

[1:24:23] And you are the one consciousness in all

[1:24:25] beings.

[1:24:26] This one see, that's what Krishna has

[1:24:28] said. These bodies, these minds, they're

[1:24:31] the field. The one who experiences them,

[1:24:33] sees them, is the seer of the field, is

[1:24:35] the field knower. And there is one seer

[1:24:37] of the field, field knower in all the

[1:24:39] fields.

[1:24:41] And these fields are also not distinct

[1:24:43] from that. Non-duality is established.

[1:24:46] Non-dual consciousness.

[1:24:48] So, two stages. Stage one, separate

[1:24:50] yourself from everything. Nisargadatta

[1:24:53] says, "Knowledge shows me I am nothing."

[1:24:55] What does that mean? Not that I'm zero.

[1:24:58] Nothing means no thing.

[1:25:01] I'm not a thing.

[1:25:05] And then,

[1:25:06] at second step, when you realize all

[1:25:09] things are like foam in the ocean that I

[1:25:11] am,

[1:25:13] then all things are one with me. Love,

[1:25:15] that is love. Love shows me I am

[1:25:16] everything.

[1:25:21] Oneness is established.

[1:25:24] Vivekananda says, "Vedanta teaches us

[1:25:27] these two things. One is the divinity

[1:25:29] within ourselves, and second, the

[1:25:30] oneness of all existence."

[1:25:33] The divinity within yourself is that

[1:25:35] witness consciousness, which you are.

[1:25:37] And the oneness of all existence is this

[1:25:39] entire universe is one with that witness

[1:25:41] consciousness.

[1:25:43] I can keep on repeating, I'm saying the

[1:25:44] same thing in 100 different ways.

[1:25:48] Yes.

[1:25:49] Let it sink in.

[1:25:51] And in the second session, we will do

[1:25:53] we'll start where we stopped here.

[1:25:55] We'll go back to the witness

[1:25:57] consciousness, and then do a meditation

[1:25:58] of the witness consciousness. Stay with

[1:26:00] it, and try to experience what it is

[1:26:02] like.

[1:26:05] Any questions and answers?

[1:26:07] Yeah.

[1:26:08] Good. I filled up time nicely.

[1:26:12] Second session in half an hour?

[1:26:14] You can take a break.

[1:26:15] Om

[1:26:31] >> Very good.

[1:26:33] It gets easier now. The heavy the

[1:26:35] metaphysical heavy lifting has been

[1:26:36] done.

[1:26:40] This was our first approach to it. The

[1:26:42] second approach is tomorrow. The third

[1:26:44] approach is day after tomorrow.

[1:26:51] Okay, I'll be back like the Terminator.

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Advaita teaches that enlightenment is not a journey to a distant goal in space or time, but recognition of what you already are. Unlike traditions emphasizing heaven, future salvation, or becoming something other than yourself, Advaita says the ultimate reality (Brahman) is here, now, and your own nature. The path is one of knowledge, not transformation into something else.
The Self doesn't need to be found, but the misidentification with the body-mind needs to be seen through. Teachings illuminate what was hidden by ignorance—not ignorance of facts, but mistaken identification. Texts and inquiry work like a mirror to reflect the truth back to you, removing the obstacle of not knowing what you already are.
In Advaita, the universe is not separate from consciousness—it appears in consciousness the way a dream world appears in the dreamer's mind. This doesn't mean the world is unreal, but that it has no existence independent of the consciousness in which it manifests. Remove consciousness, and there's no observer, no world as experienced.
No. The seer cannot see itself as an object because the moment you observe consciousness, you've become aware of the thought or experience of consciousness, not consciousness itself. Consciousness is always the subject, never the object. This is why direct knowledge of the Self isn't like knowing other things.
It means your essential nature is identical with Brahman, the ultimate reality. You are not the limited person you think you are; you are the infinite consciousness in which all experience appears. This isn't something you need to achieve; it's what you fundamentally already are.
No. The body, mind, and personality continue to function. What changes is the center of identification—from thinking you are the limited person to recognizing yourself as the consciousness in which the person appears. You still live your life, but without the contraction of believing you're a separate self defending itself against the world.
The field (kshetra) is everything that can be known—the body, mind, senses, thoughts, the world. The knower (kshetrajna) is the awareness that witnesses all of this without being affected by it. Most people mistakenly identify with the field. The teaching points you to recognize yourself as the knower, not the known.
Vedanta respects reason because it works to remove contradictions and false conclusions. Logic helps eliminate impossible positions and clarify what you actually are. It's not about philosophical argumentation; it's a tool that helps clear the conceptual obstacles to recognizing the obvious truth of your own nature.

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