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The Energetic Architecture of Awakening: Building Inner Circuitry

Sounds True
Sounds True
Nov 10, 2026
9 min de lecture

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Twenty-six years ago, a chiropractor sat in her first meditation group—Hindu-based, chanting Sanskrit tones she'd never encountered. She was uncomfortable, uncertain, and determined not to be the person she'd always been: the helper, the overachiever, the one running behind the scenes making sure everyone else had a good experience. This time, she'd decided, the meditation was for her. What happened next would reorient everything she thought she knew about consciousness, healing, and what the human body is actually built to do.

In that room, surrounded by unfamiliar chants and the long notes she'd never sung, Dr. Sue Morter was transported into a field of light ten times brighter than the desert sun. She wasn't in a body—she was a ray of light, pure conscious light, embedded in the earth and pouring this brilliance down through herself like love made visible. She could see in every direction. She knew, with absolute certainty, that this was the truth of who she was, who we all are. There was nowhere to go, nothing to become, nothing broken or missing. The heavens and earth were one and the same. When she emerged from that state and looked at the meditation teacher, she saw recognition there—the teacher knew what had happened.

That moment opened a door, but it didn't rebuild the house. Dr. Morter spent decades after that asking herself the hardest question: How do you stabilize a taste of divine consciousness? How do you go from "I got it, I lost it" to actually living as that light in a body, in relationships, in the messy particulars of a life still shaped by old patterns?

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The Work Isn't Transcendence—It's Embodiment

This question sits at the heart of Dr. Morter's life work and her new book, The Anatomy of Awakening. The spiritual experience that first transported her was real, and it opened her mind to a different reality. But as she says, "it didn't change how I exchanged in relationship or what I knew to do in terms of my business or in order to heal circumstances in my own physiology, my body or my mind or my emotional states."

So she became obsessed—in the best sense—with learning how to reproduce that state deliberately. But the path wasn't toward transcendence again. It was toward the body. Dr. Morter, with her background in chiropractic and natural healing, realized she needed to get her nervous system, her cells, her electromagnetic being into resonance with those same vibrational frequencies she'd experienced in that exalted state. The light that had seemed so "other dimensional" had to come home to the flesh.

This is the core insight that divides Dr. Morter's teaching from a certain strain of spiritual romanticism: seeking enlightenment, she suggests, misses the point entirely. "That moment only opened my mind to a different reality," she explains. The real work—the work that heals a body, that changes relationships, that stabilizes the nervous system—happens when consciousness becomes fully incarnate. Embodiment, not transcendence, is the destination.

Over those 26 years, this commitment to bringing the light into the body had concrete effects. Dr. Morter resolved her lifelong scoliosis. She resolved migraines that had shadowed her entire life. Not through willpower or suffering, but through learning to direct the energy of consciousness into the physical form in a new way—a way that allowed her body's own healing intelligence to do its work.

Why Trying to Regulate Your Nervous System Can Backfire

Here's a counterintuitive truth that sits at the threshold of Dr. Morter's teaching: when people worry about regulating their nervous system, the worry itself becomes dysregulating. "Worry is the number one way to disregulate it," she says. We're caught in a bind—we sense that our nervous system needs help, we try to help it, and the effort itself becomes the problem.

This paradox reveals something crucial about how the body actually works. "The body was built, the nervous system was built to be self-regulating, self-healing, and self-illuminating. We are built for that. So we're just not using our system properly." The system doesn't need us to fix it. It needs us to stop interfering with it.

This doesn't mean doing nothing. It means understanding what the nervous system actually responds to. The conversation about regulation itself—the intellectual effort, the goal-orientation, the subtle anxiety underneath it—creates the very dysregulation we're trying to address. It's like trying to sleep by concentrating harder on falling asleep. The instrument of fixing becomes the obstacle to healing.

The Five Chakras Beyond the Seven

To help people understand what's actually happening energetically in the body, Dr. Morter draws on the chakra system—but she expands it. Most Western practitioners are familiar with the traditional seven chakras: root, sacral, solar plexus, heart, throat, third eye, and crown. But Dr. Morter's work maps five additional energy centers beyond the seventh, which she calls chakras eight through twelve.

These aren't theoretical constructs. They describe real circuits of consciousness and energy that operate in and around the physical body. The eight through twelve chakras extend beyond the individual form—they're how we participate in what Dr. Morter calls "the unified field," the web of consciousness that connects all beings. Understanding them gives people practical tools for the real work of awakening: learning to hold more light, to channel more consciousness through their embodied self, and to do it without distorting or disrupting the natural flow.

What matters here isn't memorizing a new taxonomy. It's understanding that consciousness doesn't stop at the skin. The circuitry of awakening extends far beyond where we usually think of ourselves as ending. And if we're going to build the capacity to hold and embody the kind of light Dr. Morter experienced in that meditation—not as a fleeting glimpse but as a stable feature of our being—we need to work with the whole architecture, not just the pieces we already know.

How to Build Energetic Circuitry at the Site of a Trigger

One of Dr. Morter's most practical contributions is what she calls "building energetic circuitry at the site of a trigger." When something knocks us off balance—a moment of shame, a flash of old fear, a sudden sense of being unsafe—the conventional therapeutic response is to explore the story. What happened? Why did that hurt? Where did this pattern come from? The story is real, the pain is real, but that's not where the actual healing happens.

Instead, Dr. Morter teaches a different approach: meet the trigger in the body itself. Where do you feel it? In your gut? Your chest? Your shoulders? The moment you can locate the sensation—the wobble, the contraction, the disturbance in your nervous system—you have a place to work. From there, you can begin to breathe differently, to bring consciousness directly into that area, to rebuild the energetic circuitry that can hold more light without fragmenting.

This is where tools like spherical breathing and mula bandha become essential. These aren't abstract yoga techniques. They're ways of reorganizing your nervous system's electrical activity so it can process and integrate more consciousness, more light, more of what you actually are. The trigger isn't a problem to be understood. It's an invitation to bring embodied presence to a place where the circuitry has been disrupted.

Spherical Breathing and the Root Lock

Spherical breathing is exactly what it sounds like: instead of breathing in a linear front-to-back way, you learn to breathe in all directions simultaneously. You inhale and feel the breath and energy moving up and inward from all around you—from beneath you, from above, from all sides. You exhale and radiate that breath and energy outward in every direction at once. It's a shift from the ego's usual orientation—always taking something in, always trying to grab or control—to a state of receptivity and radiance.

Mula bandha, the root lock, is a subtle muscular engagement that stabilizes the base of the nervous system. When you're triggered or dysregulated, there's often a sense of wobbling, of instability in your core. Mula bandha—a gentle engagement of the pelvic floor—can answer that question the mind is asking: "Where is this wobble coming from?" The answer comes not from thinking but from the body itself regaining its grounding.

These tools work because they're not imposing regulation from above. They're activating the body's own capacity for self-regulation. They're ways of getting out of your own way so the nervous system can do what it was designed to do all along.

What It Actually Means to Regulate Your Nervous System

Nervous system regulation has become a catchphrase, especially since the pandemic. Everyone's talking about it—therapists, wellness coaches, yoga teachers, meditation apps. But what does it actually mean? For Dr. Morter, regulation isn't about achieving a state of constant calm or eliminating the nervous system's responsiveness. It's about the system's capacity to move fluidly between activation and rest, to meet what life brings, and to return to baseline without getting stuck.

The confused thinking often goes like this: if my nervous system is dysregulated, I need to relax it. So people try to force relaxation, to push themselves into a parasympathetic state, to become still and controlled. But forcing anything is fundamentally dysregulating. It's still the will asserting itself, still the ego trying to achieve something. Real regulation is what happens when you stop fighting, stop trying, and allow the system to do what it's built to do.

This is where the distinction between mind and body becomes crucial. The mind will try to achieve regulation. The mind will worry about whether you're doing it right. But regulation itself—the actual reset—happens in the gut, in the nervous system's own intelligence. "It's not the mind that went, that's the system—mind, body, nervous system—all together," Dr. Morter says. You have to get out of the thinking mind and into that deeper knowing.

Where to Go From Here

The path Dr. Morter offers is neither mystical escape nor dry self-improvement. It's a third way: learning to become a clearer channel for the light that's already here, that you already are. It means recognizing that the awakening experience isn't something you have to achieve or deserve. It's something you have to get out of the way of—by building the circuitry, by grounding the nervous system, by learning to hold and embody the frequencies of consciousness in the vehicle of the body.

That spiritual experience 26 years ago wasn't an exception. It was a revelation of what's always true. The work now is to make it normal, to stabilize it, to let it reshape how you move through the world. And that work happens not in meditation halls or in transcendent states, but in the flesh, in relationships, in the moment-to-moment choice to bring more light and more presence to what's here.

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[0:00] What is happening with this conversation

[0:02] [music] about regulating the nervous

[0:04] system is actually disregulating to the

[0:06] nervous system. Because [music] when

[0:08] people are worried about how to regulate

[0:10] their nervous system, worry is the

[0:12] number one way to disregulate it.

[0:13] [music] So we have to understand that

[0:15] the body was built the nervous system

[0:17] was built to be self-regulating,

[0:19] self-healing, and self-elilluminating.

[0:21] We are built for that. So we're just not

[0:23] using our system properly. [music]

[0:27] Yeah. Heat.

[0:53] In this episode of Insights at the Edge,

[0:55] my guest is [music] Dr. Sue Mortar.

[0:58] Friends and colleagues call her Dr. Sue.

[1:01] Dr. Sue earned her doctorate of

[1:04] chiropractic degree more than 40 years

[1:07] ago. And since that time, she has

[1:10] developed a whole body of groundbreaking

[1:15] work in the field of bioenergetics,

[1:18] focusing on clearing interference in the

[1:21] nervous system and resetting the body's

[1:24] electromagnetic flow. In 2019, Dr. Sue

[1:30] released a best-selling book called The

[1:32] Energy Codes. She's also the founder of

[1:36] the Body Awake School of Yoga and the

[1:39] Mortar Institute. She's an

[1:41] internationally renowned speaker and the

[1:44] author of a new book, which is what

[1:46] we're going to be talking about today,

[1:48] called The Anatomy of Awakening. Dr.

[1:51] Sue, welcome.

[1:53] >> Well, thank you so much for having me,

[1:55] Tammy. It's wonderful to be here with

[1:56] you, and I so look forward to seeing

[1:58] where we get to go today. In reading the

[2:02] anatomy of awakening, I learned that 25

[2:05] years ago, you had a lifealtering, is

[2:09] the way you describe it, spiritual

[2:11] experience. And I wonder if you can take

[2:14] us to what actually occurred.

[2:17] Sure. I was in a state in my life

[2:22] seeking, desiring to have peace of mind,

[2:25] really searching and I stumbled upon a

[2:29] meditation group and was attending uh

[2:33] one of the very first um times to sit

[2:36] and meditate with a group of people. And

[2:39] I I had several things leading up to

[2:43] this moment. I was an overgiver, an

[2:46] overtryer, overachiever. All of the

[2:49] performance, you know, symptoms were

[2:51] there loud and clear. I was uh making a

[2:55] decision in my life to not let that run

[2:57] my life anymore. I walked into this room

[3:00] to sit down and enjoy the meditation

[3:03] where typically I had been actually an

[3:06] assistant inside these workshops and

[3:09] running around trying to make everyone

[3:10] else have a great time and have a good

[3:12] experience and recognized that it was it

[3:15] was sort of my time. I just needed to do

[3:17] that for myself instead of you know

[3:19] always trying to help and support. And

[3:21] so I was new to meditation. It was a

[3:25] Hindu-based meditation group. They were

[3:28] chanting Sanskrit tones, things I was

[3:30] completely unfamiliar with. So I had to

[3:33] pay very close attention. And they were

[3:36] chanting and they were holding notes

[3:38] longer than I was ever acclimated to,

[3:41] being super shy and never wanted to sing

[3:45] in public or or anything along those

[3:47] lines. Now, this wasn't singing, but it

[3:49] was as close to to that as I ever cared

[3:52] to be. And so I was completely

[3:54] uncomfortable is the bottom line. and

[3:56] yet earnestly wanting to drop in and

[4:00] have a moment for myself and discover

[4:02] whatever this could be. And and so with

[4:06] long deep breaths, chanting specific

[4:09] tones, an earnest focus on this moment

[4:12] for myself, and allowing that repetition

[4:16] to take over, I instantly was

[4:19] transported into another state of

[4:22] consciousness that I didn't even know

[4:24] was something to be pursuing, which I'm

[4:27] actually really glad about because I

[4:30] would have been trying to achieve

[4:31] something, which would have kept me, of

[4:33] course, from ever being able to drop

[4:35] into it uh given my disposition at the

[4:38] time. And so I

[4:41] was in a light so brilliantly bright. It

[4:44] was 10 times brighter than the brightest

[4:46] day in the desert that I had ever seen.

[4:48] And it was uh completely engulfing. And

[4:54] it wasn't a brightness that I wanted to

[4:56] get away from. It was just what was so.

[4:58] I knew in an instant that this was the

[5:01] truth of who I was and that we all are.

[5:04] I could see in every direction above,

[5:06] below, behind, beside me. I was embedded

[5:09] into the earth, which I could see

[5:11] beneath me about the size of a marble.

[5:13] And it felt like I was embedded into it

[5:15] up to what would have been my knees. But

[5:18] I didn't have knees because I wasn't in

[5:20] a body. I was as as as this may sound

[5:23] strange, I was a ray of light that was

[5:27] pure conscious light. And this brilliant

[5:31] light was pouring through my system and

[5:35] literally pouring into the earth beneath

[5:37] me. And every time I took a breath, I

[5:40] did have free will. I had choice because

[5:42] I could choose to take a big breath or a

[5:46] small breath. But this beautiful pink

[5:49] horizon, this iridescent translucent

[5:52] pink color would rise up with every

[5:55] inhale and it would lower down to a

[5:58] horizon of sorts in front, behind, all

[6:01] around um as I would exhale. And each

[6:06] time I took this breath, this light

[6:09] literally felt like it I still get

[6:11] choked up when I talk about it. It felt

[6:14] like it was becoming love as it was

[6:17] pouring down through me and into the

[6:19] earth. And I knew in that moment that

[6:21] that was the truth of who we are. And I

[6:24] knew that I had always been there and

[6:25] that I would always be there. I was

[6:27] completely fulfilled, satiated,

[6:29] satisfied, wholly, whole. There was

[6:31] nowhere to go. Nothing to become,

[6:33] nothing broken, nothing missing, nothing

[6:35] wrong. And I knew that this was true

[6:39] about all of us, that this is what we're

[6:41] doing. And that the heavens are right

[6:44] here. This it is one and the same. And

[6:48] uh and in that state I felt as my true

[6:53] self what had been unfolded un unveiled.

[6:56] And so as I came down out of that state,

[6:59] I don't know how long I was there, but

[7:01] when I did come down out of the state, I

[7:05] landed back in the room chanting with

[7:07] all these people and I looked at the

[7:10] teacher who was leading the event and

[7:12] she knew what was happening um and in

[7:16] some way and it was as if all the the

[7:20] to-do list that I had been given to run

[7:22] around behind the scenes had done its

[7:24] job. It just kind of put me over the

[7:26] edge and and allowed me to completely

[7:29] drop in with a a desire to serve some

[7:32] sense of self that I had never found and

[7:35] and uh and find it. I did. So, it was

[7:38] the beginning of of a new way of looking

[7:41] at life. I've spent the last 26 years

[7:44] really working with what I know to be

[7:48] true and teaching people how to embody

[7:51] this light that we are and allow it to

[7:54] be all that it is without us distorting

[7:56] it and disrupting it and altering it in

[7:59] all of the ways that we do which lead us

[8:01] to the pain and the suffering that we

[8:04] experience in in my in my experience. So

[8:08] >> I appreciate the detail Dr. Sue and I

[8:12] was able and I think our listeners were

[8:14] able to travel with you to some degree

[8:16] and experience what you experienced. The

[8:19] question I have is the life altering

[8:23] stabilization

[8:24] of that. I think many of us have an

[8:27] experience we go out or you know could

[8:30] be in a meditation it could be in a

[8:32] psychedelic experience or all other

[8:34] kinds of experiences where we taste what

[8:37] you just described but it's not stable

[8:41] in our being. I got it I lost it is the

[8:43] way people sometimes refer to that type

[8:46] of knowing of ourselves as breathing

[8:51] love. Talk to me about the stabilization

[8:53] process if you will from your own

[8:55] experience here at the start and then

[8:57] we're going to get into how you teach

[9:00] other people to build energetic

[9:03] circuitry which is the way I've heard

[9:05] you describe it. Yeah,

[9:06] >> sure. You bet. So, you know, that moment

[9:09] only opened my mind to a different

[9:11] reality, but it didn't change how I

[9:15] exchanged in relationship or what I what

[9:18] I knew to do in terms of my business or

[9:22] in order to heal circumstances in my own

[9:26] physiology, my body or my mind or my

[9:28] emotional states. But I became obsessed

[9:31] with learning how to reproduce that

[9:34] state, how to get there again, how to

[9:36] have that be true for me on more than

[9:38] one moment. And what I recognized that

[9:42] was that I needed to get in my body with

[9:45] the same vibrational frequencies that I

[9:48] had experienced in this exalted state

[9:50] that seemed out of body, seemed other

[9:54] dimensional in some way. And so I, you

[9:57] know, I was coming out of chiropractic

[9:59] and so my orientation was the natural

[10:01] healing capacity of of the physical form

[10:04] and what it is that allows healing and

[10:07] transformation to happen on a physical,

[10:09] mental, and emotional level. And so I

[10:12] was finding myself applying those

[10:14] principles into now this new come from,

[10:17] this new disposition, this new point of

[10:20] reference. And as such, I realized that

[10:23] whenever I would try to be back in that

[10:25] state, it would never happen. When I

[10:27] would try to reproduce the circumstances

[10:29] and everything that I could remember, it

[10:31] wouldn't happen. And when I would not

[10:33] try and I would surrender and just go

[10:36] about treating my patients and getting

[10:37] on with my day, I would have flashes of

[10:40] it. It in the same state. It wasn't like

[10:44] uh it wasn't metaphorical. I was in that

[10:47] state again and then back here again.

[10:50] And I recognized that there was

[10:52] something that was opening when I wasn't

[10:54] trying and when I was in a surrendered

[10:56] state and simply allowing something, but

[10:59] in an organized fashion, this allowance

[11:02] and this surrender started to take root

[11:05] for me to the point that I could I could

[11:08] journey into this inner realm on on

[11:12] command. And it took me about five years

[11:15] to figure that out because I didn't have

[11:16] anyone really showing me what to do. And

[11:20] uh and yet I was just drawing upon what

[11:23] was beginning to feel aligned with that,

[11:25] what was beginning to feel uh um

[11:28] familiar with those higher states that I

[11:31] that I was accessing and being able to

[11:34] maintain those frequencies in my own

[11:37] system regardless of what was going on

[11:39] in my external environment. So my

[11:42] internal environment began to become

[11:44] more important than my external

[11:45] circumstances which we know in theory

[11:48] and and teachings in uh in consciousness

[11:52] and meditation and teachings from the

[11:54] eastern principles are always

[11:56] referencing this and it it I was finding

[11:59] it was it was really true. This is

[12:01] actually what is required to to begin to

[12:07] stabilize this to be able to have

[12:09] consistent access. So people seek

[12:12] enlightenment but what I was discovering

[12:14] was that enlightenment is actually what

[12:16] we are. We are the light coming into the

[12:19] physical dimension. We're coming into

[12:21] physical form. We are you know as

[12:24] science is showing us the the the

[12:26] foundation of our reality is based in

[12:28] consciousness. And so we are energy that

[12:31] is awake and we are the compression of

[12:34] that field of consciousness into

[12:37] physical form. I was drawing upon ideas

[12:40] that I knew about all physical matter is

[12:43] compressed energy and so my physical

[12:45] body is compressed energy and that

[12:47] energy at its highest vibrational

[12:49] frequency is light. So the idea that we

[12:53] are light in body form was easy for me

[12:57] to embrace. But the body piece was what

[13:00] I recognized people were missing. They

[13:03] were seeking enlightenment when actually

[13:06] the key was we are the light and seeking

[13:09] full embodiment is where we should be

[13:11] putting our attention. And so I started

[13:14] uh working with how to do that. How to

[13:17] feel like you're in your body. How to

[13:19] know that you're in your body. how to

[13:21] make sure that on a conscious level and

[13:23] on a subconscious level, we're aligning

[13:26] with our true design and allowing for

[13:30] ourselves to express into the full

[13:32] expression of who we are and and that

[13:35] reflects then why we're here, what we're

[13:37] doing, our purpose, our presence on the

[13:39] planet, etc. What happened in the

[13:42] process was the reason I I I didn't say

[13:46] this in the beginning. I just forgot to

[13:47] mention it that that I was seeking

[13:49] meditation in part because I was drawn

[13:52] to it just internally innately but I

[13:55] also started getting migraine headaches

[13:56] and so I I knew that the research was

[13:58] showing that meditation was helpful for

[14:00] headaches and so I you know now I'm I'm

[14:03] off to learn to meditate and within the

[14:06] very first very few times that I sat to

[14:09] meditate I started having you know

[14:11] transcendental experiences and then it

[14:13] was about the third time that I

[14:15] meditated this experience that I just

[14:17] shared with everyone is what was

[14:19] unfolding for me. And so, so not only

[14:22] did the migraine headaches heal when I

[14:24] started learning to get in my body with

[14:26] this high state of consciousness that I

[14:29] was accessing, I was also born with a

[14:31] scoliosis which disentangled, unwound

[14:35] and has healed in my system. Uh at this

[14:38] time I had lived with back pain and neck

[14:41] pain and and you know strength issues my

[14:44] whole life and uh little by little as I

[14:47] was learning to generate a bodily

[14:50] response to the states of consciousness

[14:52] that I was now aware of and get them to

[14:55] align which means you can't walk around

[14:58] with tension in your neck. You can't

[15:00] walk around with your stomach locked up.

[15:02] You can't worry yourself into to

[15:05] tightness of chest and and guttural

[15:07] responses if you want to allow this

[15:10] whole system to operate the way that

[15:12] it's intended. And so so it had my

[15:15] attention the things that were

[15:16] transforming for me and I began to share

[15:20] these ideas with my patients and I began

[15:23] to see that they were getting better

[15:26] faster and staying better longer. And so

[15:29] I started codifying what was happening

[15:31] and trying to wrap my mind around what

[15:34] kind of a of an of a combination of of

[15:38] areas to pay attention to, focuses to

[15:41] have, and ways to be that we're going to

[15:45] truly serve the unfoldment of our true

[15:48] destiny.

[15:50] >> And Dr. Sue, you have my attention right

[15:53] now because headaches and scoliosis have

[15:56] been two of my historical challenges as

[15:59] a person. And here's what I really want

[16:01] to understand. There's so much I want to

[16:04] understand about the energetic circuitry

[16:09] and the flow in our energy that supports

[16:13] this kind of embodied

[16:15] living of the expansive pink love that

[16:19] you described. Let's start with what

[16:22] blocks it. What entangles us? And what

[16:25] cramps our head in tension? How come we

[16:28] can't just surrender and feel and

[16:31] circulate this extraordinarily high

[16:35] frequency naturally? The frequency is

[16:37] natural, but we're somehow not able to

[16:41] flow with it naturally often.

[16:43] >> Yes, indeed. You know, and that's the

[16:45] human that's the human challenge. That's

[16:47] what we're here, I feel, to awaken to.

[16:49] That's what we're here to recognize. And

[16:51] I feel like we sort of land here and we

[16:53] splat and we dispers we disperse. We

[16:55] disperse the energies that we are. We

[16:57] externally orient. We start trying to

[16:59] look to everyone to, you know, our

[17:01] parents, the big people, the teachers,

[17:02] the ones who clothe us and feed us and

[17:04] all of that to give us feedback into our

[17:07] okayness and a sense of self. And so our

[17:10] circuits, our literal sensory nervous

[17:12] system is externally oriented. And so we

[17:15] have a difficult time really

[17:17] understanding what it means to embody

[17:21] because we're not living in our bodies.

[17:23] We're living in our minds, in our head,

[17:25] with a with a measuring stick based upon

[17:28] how much we are approved of, accepted,

[17:30] and loved by the outer world rather than

[17:33] really understanding who and what we

[17:35] are. There's an an eastern Sanskrit term

[17:37] called prahara, which means withdraw the

[17:40] senses. come here, come home, come back

[17:42] onto self rather than being other

[17:45] oriented, not in a selfish way, but in a

[17:47] self-responsible way. So that the

[17:50] energies that we are comprised of can do

[17:52] what they do. So I work with

[17:55] bioenergetics which just means how the

[17:57] energies flow through the body, the

[17:59] energies that built the body, the

[18:01] energies that heal the body, the

[18:02] energies that regulate the the nervous

[18:05] system and our digestive systems and our

[18:08] immune systems and our you know our uh

[18:11] electromagnetic energy system and uh all

[18:14] systems of flow. The lymphatic system,

[18:17] the respiratory system, the vascular

[18:19] system, all of them are under the master

[18:22] control of what is considered a master

[18:25] system. And it's all the bioenergetics.

[18:28] It's the energy system that built the

[18:30] body and it heals the body. And so this

[18:32] energy is measured to flow. I have an

[18:35] image I can just toss up here on the

[18:36] back wall that is really helpful for

[18:39] people who are able to be watching right

[18:40] now or maybe if you're just listening

[18:42] you can take a a look at the um the view

[18:46] here at some point. The energy is

[18:48] designed to pour down through the body

[18:51] what will become the body. It actually

[18:53] flows and hits the earth before it even

[18:55] builds a body. It hits the earth and

[18:57] reflects back up and rises and then it

[19:01] it fountains out and cycles around and

[19:04] around and around upon itself. It's

[19:07] always coming in. It's always hitting

[19:08] the earth. It's always rising up again.

[19:11] And it's always cycling. And this is a

[19:13] toric field flow is what that's called.

[19:15] It's a donutshaped rolling of an energy

[19:18] field that's measurable around the body.

[19:21] And that's the way that we're designed

[19:22] to operate. And so this system of

[19:26] movement is where the body is built

[19:28] inside the developing, you know, womb in

[19:30] the womb as a developing embryo. And so

[19:33] that's how we're designed to be

[19:34] operating, just allowing this high

[19:37] frequency light from source, the the

[19:40] energy of the unified field, the the

[19:42] quantum field, however we want to look

[19:44] at it, we can reference it as divine

[19:46] intelligence or universal intelligence.

[19:48] Um the zero point field that is

[19:50] compressing, etc. into physical form. So

[19:54] we know this law that all physical

[19:56] matter is compressed energy. So this is

[19:59] a process. Just think of this like this

[20:01] is how we build and build and build like

[20:03] a centrifuge here just generating the

[20:05] density of our physical mass. So that's

[20:08] how we're supposed to operate. And

[20:09] here's how most of us are operating. We

[20:11] we drop in, we hit the earth, we rise

[20:14] up, and somewhere along the way we shut

[20:17] down the feeling of autonomy. We shut

[20:20] down the feeling of uh the freedom to

[20:23] say and be and create and do what as I

[20:26] would so love to create and do. We shut

[20:29] down the safety of loving. We shut down

[20:32] our voice or our ability and we begin to

[20:35] operate as a separate self that is

[20:38] trying to fend for itself. And with the

[20:40] shutdown of these aspects of these

[20:43] layers of our own consciousness which

[20:45] oftentimes are referred to as the chakra

[20:47] system. But I'm not just talking about

[20:49] the chakras as wheels of energy inside

[20:51] the body. I'm saying that they represent

[20:54] different aspects of our wholeness, our

[20:56] consciousness, because the reality that

[20:59] we are living in is based in

[21:01] consciousness and so are we. And so our

[21:03] consciousness is everything u to study

[21:06] if we really want to understand who and

[21:09] what we are and what we're capable of.

[21:10] And so if we're shutting down aspects of

[21:12] our consciousness in this way, this

[21:14] rising energy now has to circumvent

[21:17] where we're contracted and we're not

[21:19] living in there and we've shut it down

[21:21] literally physically. We think we just

[21:24] shut down our attitude or our

[21:26] disposition or we feel ourselves shut

[21:27] down around certain people or

[21:29] circumstances, but all of it is telling

[21:32] a story. And so this rising energy picks

[21:35] up a wobble and it creates a distortion

[21:37] in the field. So now this individual is

[21:40] standing here looking out through a

[21:42] distorted field and they see a distorted

[21:45] reality. And so we see a world that

[21:48] doesn't offer up opportunities. We see a

[21:51] world that doesn't care or or that

[21:53] overlooks us or we affirm what we've

[21:56] prematurely concluded in the moments

[21:58] that we'd shut down in these ways. Most

[22:00] of those shutdowns happened before we

[22:02] were 10. Most of them before we were

[22:04] five. So here we are as adults trying to

[22:08] be conscious, trying to be responsible,

[22:10] trying to heal ourselves, trying to be

[22:12] good for the world and good for each

[22:13] other, but we're operating in a

[22:15] compensated system, looking through a

[22:18] compensated lens that is that is

[22:21] struggling harder than it needs to. And

[22:23] so what I focus on is getting these gaps

[22:29] or these obstacles. Uh you asked, you

[22:32] know, how what what's the interference?

[22:34] What's in the way? what's in the way is

[22:36] not really an obstacle, but most people

[22:38] go looking for their problems so they

[22:40] can fix them. They look for the

[22:41] blockages so they can fix them, which I

[22:44] understand, but the blockages are really

[22:46] gaps in communication. That's all they

[22:48] are. They're gaps in the flow. So these

[22:51] are like potholes in a superighway. So

[22:53] the car is having to swerve and swerve

[22:55] and it generates this distortion in the

[22:58] field for us. And so if we can come back

[23:00] and we can if we can come back onto the

[23:02] self, come back home to ourselves, many

[23:05] for the first time in our lives, we'll

[23:07] start to feel like, oh, oh, this is this

[23:12] is my gig. This I'm this is supposed to

[23:15] serve my reason for coming. I'm not here

[23:17] just to fit in, just to be a good

[23:19] person, do the right thing, show up and,

[23:21] you know, and serve. Yes, all those

[23:23] things. But those things will come

[23:25] naturally as a byproduct if I'm

[23:27] operating this way because that's what

[23:29] we're made of. We're made of all that

[23:30] is, why would we ever reject or deject

[23:32] or deny uh anything that is true? But

[23:36] when we're operating in this vibrational

[23:38] frequency, because this changes the

[23:39] radio station that we can dial into. And

[23:42] so what happened for me that day was

[23:45] that I surrendered enough of these

[23:47] patterns that that are of distortion and

[23:51] was so filled with love and sincerity

[23:54] for myself and for life and for come

[23:57] what may because I was operating in a

[24:00] way that was not usual for me. That this

[24:03] teacher had given me a list of things to

[24:05] do and I always do my list. always, you

[24:08] know, would would show up and do the

[24:10] right thing. And and I know that she was

[24:12] on to it. And she gave me a list of

[24:14] things to do that were impossible to do

[24:15] in the amount of time that I was to do

[24:17] them. And it boom, it blew my circuits.

[24:20] And so I went in trembling, upset, hurt,

[24:24] and afraid and taking a stand for myself

[24:27] all at the same time. And the love that

[24:30] came bursting out of me, you know,

[24:32] created just enough more of this

[24:34] perfected state that boom, you know,

[24:37] consciousness lit up in my system in a

[24:40] way that it never had been able to

[24:42] before. But then getting back in the

[24:45] body and learning how to let that flood

[24:48] through all these areas is what changed

[24:51] the scoliosis. It's what changed the

[24:53] headaches. It's what changed my ability

[24:55] to be loving and compassionate in for

[24:57] myself as well as others and to find my

[25:00] voice and to be sharing that with my

[25:02] beloveds and being able to speak into

[25:05] circumstances where the risks and the

[25:07] stakes are higher with with with a grace

[25:10] that I had never never experienced

[25:13] before.

[25:14] >> Now, let me check something out with

[25:16] you, Dr. Sue, cuz as I was starting to

[25:19] read the anatomy of awakening,

[25:22] what I started I started picking up what

[25:25] you were putting down and what as the

[25:28] kids say and what that felt to me and I

[25:30] want to see if this is accurate is that

[25:33] there's an energetic architecture. You

[25:36] call it the God body. And that the God

[25:41] body is the energetic

[25:45] form, if you will, that is in this

[25:49] awakened flow state. And we can create

[25:54] and build energetic circuitry that

[25:59] supports that flow. So we we can

[26:01] actually energetically work with

[26:04] ourselves to help build a god body

[26:08] that's already there that we're

[26:09] blocking. You explain it in your

[26:11] language. Describe the god body.

[26:14] >> Okay. I know it's it's like it's a big

[26:16] word. Uh I was originally going to name

[26:18] the book that, but then the publisher

[26:19] thought maybe it would, you know, we

[26:21] would just keep that on the inside of

[26:22] the book and not and not offend anyone

[26:24] that didn't, you know, want to hear

[26:25] about the hear about God or it's not

[26:27] it's not a religious term at all. It's

[26:29] source. It's it's the energy that is

[26:32] it's all of it. It's the pure presence

[26:34] that that is the truth of us. So we know

[26:37] a chakra system. Most people are

[26:39] familiar with the seven chakra system

[26:40] from the root to the crown and what I

[26:43] began to become lucidly aware of because

[26:46] when I was a kid I could see energy and

[26:49] I shut it down because I could tell it

[26:50] was making people nervous the way that I

[26:52] would speak about I thought everybody

[26:53] could and I would talk about it and you

[26:55] know the eyes would get big and glazed

[26:56] over and so I just I remember at about

[26:59] age 12 just turning it off just like I

[27:01] don't do this anymore when I saw that it

[27:02] was making my mother nervous even though

[27:04] she wanted to support me in all ways

[27:06] possible. Um and so and then in my 20s

[27:09] and my 30s my my 30s and late 30s I was

[27:12] I would question did that could I even

[27:14] see the energy as a kid because I can't

[27:16] get it back now for the life of me. But

[27:18] after this experience happened in in

[27:20] 2000 and continued into 2001 in great

[27:24] with great intensity um I began to be

[27:27] able to to see the energies again and I

[27:29] began to really work with it in this way

[27:31] that there is chakras 1 through 7 and

[27:34] there are energy centers above and and

[27:36] beneath us as well and there's this this

[27:39] sphere of energy around us. Now this

[27:41] would be a snapshot. That whole Torric

[27:43] field that I've been referencing is if

[27:46] you took a snapshot of it, it would kind

[27:47] of be represented as as this as well.

[27:50] And so this additional uh energy center

[27:54] recognition is something that I later

[27:57] discovered that other people had had

[27:59] written about it and spoke about it as

[28:01] well. And so it was very relieving to me

[28:04] to to realize that I wasn't alone in

[28:08] this process. And uh and so the the the

[28:13] energetics of chakra 8 and 9 and 10 and

[28:18] 11 is is hot in the hands and feet and

[28:21] also is the energy that is all around

[28:24] the interior of this chakra 12. And the

[28:26] chakra 12 is this big ascension body or

[28:29] this big oval of vibrational frequency

[28:32] that is just as high of a vibration as

[28:34] we can be and still be in in our own

[28:37] physical body. So if we look at it like

[28:39] the whole unified field is if you if if

[28:41] it was this big bed sheet and you just

[28:43] hung up this bed sheet, you know, from

[28:46] two corners and it's hanging down. If

[28:48] you were to go up behind it and just

[28:50] kind of pinch part of the sheet and push

[28:52] it toward each other, that's sort of

[28:54] what this first compression is in the

[28:57] field that becomes this this this God

[29:01] presence or it's it's this divine

[29:02] presence. So you teach on these five

[29:06] additional chakras. Maybe some people

[29:08] have heard of them. I imagine a lot of

[29:10] our listeners are only familiar with the

[29:13] seven chakra model. So maybe could you

[29:17] take us slowly through 8 9 10 11 12

[29:22] where they're located in our energy

[29:25] system and you call them hidden codes.

[29:28] what what gift we get when we know about

[29:32] the ace chakra, the 9th, 10th, 11th, and

[29:35] 12th.

[29:35] >> You know, here's what's so interesting.

[29:37] I can do it in that order. And the thing

[29:39] that will actually turn it on for people

[29:42] while we're talking about it is if we

[29:43] talk about it like 12, 11, 10, 9.

[29:46] >> Let's do it that. Let's do it your order

[29:48] because I wanted the main thing is that

[29:50] I want people, myself included, and all

[29:53] of us to get it turned on in our lives.

[29:55] >> You bet. So, so that sheet pinching is

[29:58] 12 and that 12 is the awareness of

[30:02] ourselves as the divine that we are a

[30:05] divine being. You know, we know that we

[30:07] come from the heavens, but we don't

[30:09] realize that we are then therefore made

[30:13] of that divine essence. And so, so

[30:16] chakra 12 is our choice to become. It

[30:20] is, you know, if we think about it like

[30:21] this, the divine only creates divine. So

[30:24] chakra 12 is your divine presence, the

[30:27] version of you that is unaltered,

[30:28] undistorted, not diminished. And so you

[30:32] first are actually this energy field

[30:35] long before

[30:36] >> you describe it as a golden egg. And I

[30:38] want I want to get into the

[30:40] >> Yeah.

[30:40] >> feeling and the sense of it. Okay.

[30:43] >> Because I I noticed for me that's really

[30:45] helpful.

[30:46] >> And and and like the fact that oh

[30:48] there's a golden egg around me. I think

[30:50] I I actually feel that and sense that

[30:52] and can sense sometimes when it's broken

[30:55] or you know it or

[30:57] >> crack the crack crack serious crack in

[31:00] the egg or scrambled or god knows what

[31:02] has happened to the egg but uh I to so

[31:05] to sit with that that there's a a a

[31:08] chakra that is actually surrounding us

[31:11] as a golden egg. I think that's very

[31:13] profound.

[31:14] >> Yes. And you know it's not just

[31:16] surrounding us. It's actually the real

[31:19] us. We are actually first an energy

[31:22] being. We create a body to navigate this

[31:25] physical dimension. We are an energy

[31:28] presence that is here compressing itself

[31:32] into physical form in order to live in a

[31:35] physical reality. So while we're here,

[31:37] we are identifying as these physical

[31:39] bodies. And we have chakras 1 through

[31:41] seven and an eight and a nine overhead

[31:43] and a 10 underf foot uh and an 11 in our

[31:48] hands and feet which is why people have

[31:49] the heat in their hands and the

[31:51] electrical feelings and uh and so on

[31:55] that that it's why people you know put

[31:57] their hands up if they want to give

[31:58] healing energy to someone. It's because

[32:00] it's it's more pure. It's more

[32:02] unaltered. It's running right through

[32:04] our system. It's what allows us it's

[32:06] innate intelligence. it what it's what

[32:08] allows us to heal. It is what allows us

[32:11] to digest and to filter and to cleanse

[32:13] and and so on. And so and then that 11

[32:16] then surrenders out even more into this

[32:19] this golden egg around us. And so the

[32:23] golden egg sense of self is the glowing

[32:30] that we see emanating radiating when

[32:33] when holy beings are painted in

[32:36] Renaissance times with with with the

[32:38] glowing emanation around the crown.

[32:41] Maybe some of you have felt that glow in

[32:43] meditation or in the palms of your hands

[32:46] or the soles of your feet. And that is a

[32:49] very real thing. It's actually closer to

[32:53] the truth of who you are than than just

[32:56] a person who's trying to learn to

[32:58] discover these things. So when you're

[33:00] turned on to that felt sense, you begin

[33:03] breathing in a in a different manner.

[33:06] You begin to automatically feel the the

[33:10] preciousness and the divinity of life

[33:12] because because as 12 becomes 11 on the

[33:17] way in here as 12 becomes 11 it divine

[33:22] presence is the only thing that's true.

[33:24] It's the only thing that's real. And

[33:26] then we plant ourselves in chakra 10

[33:30] which is located 2 feet or lower into

[33:33] the earth from wherever you are. If you

[33:35] just think about it like the earth star,

[33:37] it's been referenced that way. But it is

[33:40] you anchoring and grounding and rooting

[33:43] yourself in the most clear and pristine

[33:47] fashion. So it's like chakra 10 is like

[33:50] the root chakra of our invisible

[33:53] architecture, our invisible anatomy that

[33:56] is surrounding the physical body. Long

[33:58] before the physical body even exists, it

[34:01] exists. And so so this 10 is just like

[34:06] the higher self but anchored in the

[34:09] earth and it's it's going to be uh

[34:13] presenting but but this this quality of

[34:16] chakra 10 is your groundedness. It is a

[34:19] greater love. I picture it like I try to

[34:22] describe it to people like molten lava

[34:25] at the center of the earth. Like if

[34:27] molten lava embraces everything. It's

[34:29] like nothing's going to go falling into

[34:32] molten lava and not end up part of

[34:34] molten lava. It's not going to keep you

[34:36] separate. It's completely unconditional

[34:38] in its embrace. So imagine that your

[34:42] love, your your presence on this planet

[34:45] was that quality of love that you are

[34:48] loved that much. You have the capacity

[34:50] to love that much. And the closer you

[34:52] get to that, the more you are able to

[34:56] manage your internal reality regardless

[34:58] of your external circumstances because

[35:01] you're not taking up arms to go, you

[35:03] know, fight the fight. You are you are

[35:06] approaching it from an entirely

[35:07] different way. It's the the greatest

[35:09] transmuting quality on earth. This

[35:12] quality of love, it dissolves

[35:14] everything. I call it the universal

[35:16] solvent. Anything that we are willing to

[35:18] love into is going to be transformed.

[35:21] anything including ourselves. So all of

[35:24] that is represented in a state of

[35:26] consciousness that is associated with

[35:28] chakra 10. And uh and then chakra 9 is

[35:33] located up 4 feet above the head or

[35:36] higher. It represents our soul purpose.

[35:40] The reason that we're here, it's like an

[35:42] awareness. When we awaken at chakra 9's

[35:46] state of consciousness, we are having

[35:48] revelation after revelation after

[35:50] revelation. things like your life

[35:53] flashing before your eyes that people

[35:55] from out-of- body experiences or

[35:56] near-death experiences come back and

[35:59] share that they saw the real meaning

[36:01] behind this and they saw the gift that

[36:03] was in this and they see another way of

[36:06] looking at this and that is someone

[36:09] illuminating at this chakra 9 which is

[36:12] their capacity to see from the bird's

[36:14] eye view if you will life from a

[36:17] different perspective one that is not

[36:19] based in survival

[36:20] yet but one that is based in awakening

[36:24] based in coming here to have our day in

[36:27] on earth as you know an experience of

[36:30] consciousness you know having an

[36:32] experience of itself that's what we're

[36:35] doing here and so so that's chakra 9 and

[36:39] chakra 8 is more of our life plan and

[36:44] the way that that life purpose that sole

[36:46] purpose is going to unfold is through uh

[36:50] a plan in our in in an or becomes

[36:54] organized like soul contracts where

[36:57] where you you have agreements with

[36:59] people that you know you're going to be

[37:01] prodded in certain ways or triggered in

[37:04] certain ways or activated in certain

[37:05] ways or guided in certain ways in order

[37:08] to fulfill your destiny here to awaken

[37:11] into your magnificence. So if I just put

[37:15] those in this pattern for just a moment,

[37:18] we can see that hierarchically,

[37:21] energetically, chakra 12 is where we

[37:24] begin. There's a choice to become to

[37:26] incarnate and we become that oval egg.

[37:29] And then what happens is that that is

[37:32] set in motion your purpose for here

[37:35] landing here in chakra 10. And when this

[37:39] divine source energy is able to pour in

[37:42] and pour in and we receive it, if the

[37:44] human body were standing here, it would

[37:46] be right there. So this energy comes in

[37:49] and grounds you at the earth level and

[37:52] then rises up through your system and it

[37:55] generates that toric field right here

[37:57] that I'm talking about. But as we become

[38:00] present to ourselves in the ways that

[38:03] we've been taught to do, what happens is

[38:06] this energy begins to fill and fill and

[38:09] fill this vessel that we are. And as it

[38:12] fills and fills and fills, we start

[38:15] having revelations. We start remembering

[38:17] who we are. We start recognizing there's

[38:20] a pathway for me that I am actually

[38:22] carving. I'm not here to fit into

[38:24] something else. I'm here as the creative

[38:27] source itself carving pathways of

[38:30] bringing light into the density of human

[38:33] consciousness, if you will. And so that

[38:36] that cycling and recycling and recycling

[38:39] is allowing me to have multiple

[38:41] opportunities to work through those

[38:44] areas that I had shut down and created

[38:46] that wobble and that distortion. And as

[38:48] we do, chakra 8 is this full-on

[38:52] expression. Your life plan is to see a

[38:56] blessing in everything and to bring that

[38:59] blessing forth to bring it into the

[39:02] world. To show others how to see in this

[39:06] way once we land and embody and

[39:08] integrate these frequencies in a way

[39:10] that is self-healing. The very next

[39:13] thing that's going to do is we're going

[39:14] to have this recognition that oh my

[39:17] gosh, these things haven't been working

[39:19] against me. They've been supporting me

[39:22] in terms of how I was ever going to

[39:25] discover my true deep rich magnificent

[39:29] self and elevate and exalt into these

[39:32] states. So what happened for me that day

[39:35] was this lit up. I lit up here in this

[39:39] area where where divine light was

[39:41] pouring in. I was that I was still

[39:44] identifying as that and I was here in

[39:48] this reality um awake to

[39:53] who I was when I chose to come without

[39:55] being distorted or disrupted. So most

[39:58] people are way out ahead of this over

[40:00] trying and overgiving. They're out of

[40:02] they're not in the sweet spot because

[40:03] right here is where the descending

[40:05] energy divine light is pouring into us

[40:07] all the time from every direction. But

[40:09] I've I've drawn it here just in a you

[40:11] know a schematic and it's hitting the

[40:13] earth and it's rising up and we're we're

[40:16] working through our own ability to love

[40:18] ourselves enough to be present with to

[40:20] forgive to all of the things that we're

[40:22] working out with. And where those two

[40:24] are crossing over each other is where

[40:28] we're constantly being fed and

[40:30] constantly being supported by the forces

[40:33] of mother nature, the stability of the

[40:35] groundedness of being, you know, on the

[40:37] planet, etc. And so most people are out

[40:40] here over trying. They miss this sweet

[40:42] spot or they're back here hiding where

[40:46] they're hesitant to do anything,

[40:47] hesitant to speak their truth, hesitant

[40:49] to reach out or to think that they can

[40:51] do the things that they want to do. And

[40:53] so they're missing the sweet spot. And

[40:56] so the whole journey really becomes

[40:58] about how do I find that place where

[41:01] these higher five chakras are these

[41:04] levels of consciousness are awakening?

[41:07] I'm awakening to them. They're not

[41:09] something I possess. They're parts of me

[41:12] that I didn't know I was. And when I can

[41:15] start to know what they represent, I can

[41:18] start to live into them. And so, so in

[41:23] that is is that's just sort of some

[41:26] background that kind of lays this out

[41:28] for us to to have a context for we are

[41:32] the light coming in. We are the energy

[41:35] that is dropping in in this systematic

[41:39] way. And our job is to allow that to

[41:42] happen. When we start to animate at this

[41:46] chakra 8 and 9 and 10 and 11 and 12, we

[41:51] create a temple, a sacred space where on

[41:56] the inside of that chakras 1 through 7

[41:59] have a better chance of expressing

[42:01] wholly and fully because they're not

[42:03] feeling like they're on their own.

[42:06] They're supported by something even

[42:08] higher that is holding the space. So it

[42:10] translates sort of like um if someone's

[42:13] has spirit guides or if someone feels

[42:15] like they're divinely guided or

[42:17] protected or or they feel that prayer

[42:20] brings something to them. Uh I would say

[42:24] there's a there's a an actual

[42:26] architecture to that. There's an anatomy

[42:29] to it that is invisible to the eye. uh

[42:33] most eyes and because of its

[42:36] invisibility we haven't known to give it

[42:38] credit and we we might think of oh I'd

[42:41] like to awaken higher at chakra 8 and we

[42:44] can certainly work with it that way and

[42:46] then with nine and then I want to know

[42:47] about 10 and then 11 and then ultimately

[42:51] I want that to all blossom out into this

[42:54] golden egg around me and that is an

[42:57] order and I talk about it in the book we

[42:59] can approach it that way but I I just

[43:02] always love the opportunity to to step

[43:04] in here and say, you know, you're you're

[43:06] not a physical being that's trying to

[43:09] learn about your divinity. You're a

[43:12] divine being that is here to fully

[43:15] awaken inside of your physicality, the

[43:18] physical vehicle that you built to even

[43:20] be here. And when you put it that way,

[43:24] when you flip it over, I call this this

[43:26] quantum flip that we're we're now

[43:29] operating as if we're in charge. We're

[43:32] not seeking for something where we know

[43:35] who we are. And our job is to land here

[43:38] and be more free in our expressions than

[43:42] we ever knew before that we had the

[43:44] right to. It's it's already here. It's

[43:47] not something that we're going to

[43:49] achieve or accomplish or acquire.

[43:52] Dr. Sue, we did a quantum flip together

[43:55] right here. I really liked it. Thank

[43:57] you. Now, I want to ask a couple of

[43:58] clarifying questions. Yeah. You when you

[44:01] started with the hidden code of chakra

[44:03] 12 and you were describing the golden

[44:05] egg, you said in that we breathe

[44:08] differently.

[44:10] >> And I thought, oh, that's interesting.

[44:11] How do we breathe differently when we're

[44:14] in an established field of a golden egg?

[44:18] There's an automatic spherical breathing

[44:20] that begins to happen and you can

[44:22] practice the spherical breathing which

[44:24] kind of brings you in the back door so

[44:26] that you can kind of prepare your system

[44:29] to be able to awaken more easily. A a

[44:32] spherical breathing which starts in the

[44:34] belly. Inhale in the belly. Stretch open

[44:36] your solar plexus right where your ribs

[44:39] play apart. Then inhale up into your

[44:41] heart and into your chest. And then

[44:44] inhale bigger than the body physical.

[44:47] And then exhale in every direction out

[44:49] as if you're filling this golden egg at

[44:51] about arms reach both sides and higher.

[44:54] You know, it's it's like 10 feet and 20

[44:56] feet above and below at its minimum. And

[44:59] so safe to have the egg be about that

[45:02] size. And then let's take a breath from

[45:04] this perimeter of a golden egg around

[45:06] you. Just breathe into your belly.

[45:09] Stretch open your solar plexus and

[45:11] breathe through that. Breathe up into

[45:12] your heart, into your chest. Inhale

[45:14] bigger than your physical body.

[45:18] And then exhale in every direction.

[45:21] In front of you, behind you, beside you,

[45:24] left, right, above and below. Inhale

[45:27] from every direction. Right into your

[45:29] belly. Inhale more. Stretch open solar

[45:33] plexus. Let it fill your heart and your

[45:35] chest. Inhale bigger than the body. And

[45:37] exhale in every direction. In front of

[45:40] you, behind you, above and below. And

[45:44] over and over that breath begins to

[45:47] fluctuate a a a in an in energetic

[45:51] fashion that allows for you to uh

[45:55] resonate in a different frequency. Now

[45:58] when you hit that, you may be spherical

[46:02] breathing over and over and over for

[46:04] several minutes and all of a sudden you

[46:07] aren't doing the breathing. You feel

[46:09] like you're being breathed. And when you

[46:12] are being breathed, you are definitely

[46:15] tapping into the frequencies of chakra

[46:18] 12. And that is why it is referenced as

[46:21] this ascension body of energies. that

[46:24] because it is there in that state that

[46:28] we are able to dissolve more and more of

[46:31] those blockages by filling in more and

[46:34] more of those potholes in that

[46:36] superighway that we were referencing

[46:39] when we were looking at it this way that

[46:41] we're we're automatically generating a

[46:44] chemistry of acceptance and embrace and

[46:47] the and the brains of the body and heart

[46:50] and mind. There's a brain in your gut

[46:52] and a brain in your heart and a brain in

[46:54] your head. They begin to reference each

[46:57] other. Our body chemistries change,

[46:59] neurotransmission changes, and the next

[47:02] thing you know, we're illuminating in

[47:04] higher brain states up above the

[47:06] primitive brain and we're we're in a

[47:09] revelatory state. So, it's a systematic

[47:12] thing that is designed to be operating

[47:14] in your favor. The whole system is built

[47:18] for your illumination. Of course,

[47:20] because we're made of light, we came in

[47:23] and we're in these, we built these

[47:24] vehicles and we're operating through

[47:26] them, but no one told us how to utilize

[47:29] them for what they were built to be

[47:32] utilized for. And so, we suffer.

[47:36] >> Dr. Sue, we're going to have to have a

[47:37] part two to this conversation sometime

[47:40] in the future, if you're willing.

[47:41] There's so much that uh is alive in me

[47:44] that I want to talk to you about here.

[47:46] Before we end though, just one more

[47:48] topic

[47:49] >> which is in our time many people are

[47:52] feeling challenged at the level of their

[47:55] nervous system. You know I hear you know

[47:57] who's sleeping who since the pandemic

[47:59] started who gets a good night's sleep?

[48:01] Nobody I know. And there's this sense of

[48:04] chronic nervous system dysregulation.

[48:08] And I've heard some people say, "Well,

[48:09] you know, Tammy, this is actually a sign

[48:13] of the times we're in in terms of

[48:16] accelerated spiritual growth and that

[48:20] the nervous systems we've had, we don't

[48:23] have the circuitry to handle the actual

[48:26] higher frequencies that are available."

[48:28] Now, that's one perspective. A lot of

[48:31] other people say, "No, I'm just scared

[48:32] of civilizational collapse, Tammy.

[48:35] Please just look at it the way it is." I

[48:37] wonder how you see it.

[48:38] >> Yeah, I do see it that we are in an

[48:40] evolutionary state. We are waking. We

[48:44] are capable of more things in terms of

[48:47] perceiving and tolerating uh the ideas

[48:50] of our own um the vastness of our being.

[48:54] Quantum science is is downloading more

[48:58] information into our worlds. Uh that

[49:00] we're going we're having to embrace a

[49:02] new science. We're having to recognize

[49:05] that our nervous system is sensory, not

[49:07] motor oriented. Meaning, we're smarter

[49:10] to learn to sense and feel the reality

[49:14] of of our true anatomy like we've been

[49:17] talking about here today. And and as we

[49:20] do, our systems begin to orient not to

[49:24] the news, but to a deeper truth, a

[49:27] timeless truth that has always been and

[49:29] will always be, whether this

[49:31] civilization makes it or not. What we

[49:33] really need to be doing is identifying

[49:35] as the one who can walk right through

[49:37] it, who can maintain their wherewithal

[49:40] to offer up creative solutions rather

[49:42] than getting caught up in the herd of

[49:44] being freaked out and and you know the

[49:46] mass hysteria that happens in so many

[49:49] ways. What is happening with this

[49:50] conversation about about regulating the

[49:53] nervous system is actually disregulating

[49:56] to the nervous system. Because when

[49:57] people are worried about how to regulate

[49:59] their nervous system, worry is the

[50:01] number one way to disregulate it. So we

[50:04] have to understand that the body was

[50:05] built, the nervous system was built to

[50:07] be self-regulating, self-healing, and

[50:09] self-elilluminating. We are built for

[50:11] that. So we're just not using our system

[50:13] properly. So if we would turn our

[50:15] attention to learning how to use our

[50:17] system properly, we would actually be

[50:21] regulating the system as an automatic

[50:23] byproduct of that. and the

[50:25] parasympathetic and sympathetic

[50:27] divisions of the autonomic nervous

[50:29] system are automatically going to come

[50:30] into balance if we bring a greater sense

[50:32] of harmony into the body. So my work for

[50:35] the last 26 years has been embodiment.

[50:38] It's been for the purpose of regulating

[50:40] the nervous system and also for the

[50:42] purpose of so much more of awakening to

[50:46] the truth of who we are. But we can't

[50:47] have that awakening if we're locked down

[50:50] in fight or flight because fight or

[50:52] flight is the illusionary world that

[50:54] we're caught up in because we're living

[50:55] from our five senses. And so what I'm

[50:58] trying to do with this book and the

[51:00] coursework that I'm teaching is to allow

[51:04] people to remember the rest of who they

[51:06] are, which has the full-on capacity to

[51:09] move through these times with grace

[51:12] instead of being reactive and caught up

[51:14] in, you know, what the outer world is

[51:16] presenting. That that the outer world is

[51:19] presenting so much chaos is definitely

[51:22] going to evolve us because we have to

[51:25] deal with it. And it's sort of a

[51:26] backside of the model way of approaching

[51:28] it, but it works. And there's a better

[51:32] way, an easier way, which is I what I

[51:34] call the this quantum flip on the front

[51:36] side of the model is is really embracing

[51:39] what is happening and loving how it is

[51:43] evolving us. And so all we need to do is

[51:46] learn how it is evolving us, which is

[51:49] what I talk about all the time. When

[51:51] we're when we're once we get past this

[51:53] anatomical layout, we can talk about how

[51:56] do we use it? How do we work with it?

[51:58] How do we enliven these aspects of our

[52:00] consciousness so that they get to have a

[52:02] vote in how we sleep? They get to have a

[52:05] vote in how we interpret what's going on

[52:07] in the news. They get to have a vote in

[52:09] how we translate our past and and move

[52:12] from it into the present free and clear

[52:15] in an undistorted version of ourselves.

[52:18] And so, so it's it's um that those are a

[52:22] few things that I think about it.

[52:23] [laughter]

[52:24] >> And just to be sure to leave our

[52:27] listeners in a a grounded and

[52:29] wellresourced place,

[52:31] >> what would you say to that person who

[52:32] says, "I'm inspired by the model. I

[52:35] even, you know, I I kind of gro it,

[52:38] >> the spherical breath, great, but I still

[52:41] find myself wobbly right now." What can

[52:45] Dr. Sue suggest as an easy practice that

[52:48] I can do at this time.

[52:50] >> Oh, you bet. So, right now, you follow

[52:52] the wobble. You ask, "Where in my body

[52:56] is this wobble coming from?" And and and

[52:59] I'm going to give you something else

[53:00] here, right? As fast as I can here

[53:02] because I know your time is, you know,

[53:04] our time is is scheduled. But there are

[53:07] four anchor points here within the body.

[53:10] The most effective of which is the at at

[53:13] the tip of the spine. And at the tip of

[53:16] the spine, we can squeeze the

[53:18] musculature there, which is sort of like

[53:20] a kego exercise. It's called mulab. And

[53:23] it means root lock. It means if you're

[53:25] up and in this spaciousness of this, you

[53:27] know, a big expansive conversation or if

[53:30] you're just up and in some expansiveness

[53:32] of worrying or being out thinking about

[53:34] the future and and out of sorts in any

[53:37] way, you squeeze this moola sort of like

[53:40] a keo exercise. And what happens

[53:41] instantly is your energy rushes to the

[53:44] rootedness of your being. And then you

[53:46] exhale right down into the earth with

[53:48] your vision on that chakra 10. That's 2

[53:51] feet into the earth. And then you take a

[53:53] breath up from there. So So here's how

[53:55] you do it. If you were going to the

[53:56] bathroom and you had to stop the stream

[53:58] instantly, you would squeeze these

[53:59] muscles in the perennium uh in the

[54:01] pineal floor in the pelvic floor. You

[54:03] squeeze these muscles. Squeeze them with

[54:05] everything you got right now and take a

[54:06] belly breath [snorts] and then relax

[54:09] them by one half.

[54:10] and take another belly breath.

[54:13] And then relax that by one half again,

[54:16] but keep something there. And take

[54:19] another belly breath. And when you

[54:21] exhale, exhale into the earth each time.

[54:24] And when you inhale, inhale up from the

[54:26] earth through that that small gentle

[54:30] touch, that contraction at the base of

[54:32] the spine. That contraction at the base

[54:34] of the spine anchors you instantly. It's

[54:38] directly associated with chakra 1. And

[54:41] when you exhale into the earth, now

[54:43] you're combining chakra 10 and chakra 1,

[54:46] which is a super anchoring project. It's

[54:49] a super anchoring process. So you can do

[54:52] that. Another one that's very easy is to

[54:54] roll your shoulders up and back and

[54:56] down. Pull your blades together, drop

[54:58] them down your spine, and it activates

[55:01] this one in the center of the spine. And

[55:03] in the activation of that, what happens

[55:06] is your heart stabilizes. And when your

[55:08] heart stabilizes, it changes the

[55:10] chemistry. It changes the signaling. It

[55:12] changes everything. Heart coherence so

[55:14] much easier if you'll just anchor

[55:16] yourself back here. Let me just show you

[55:17] here that this this right here is this

[55:21] heart center. And if we pull this and

[55:24] connect it to this, what happens is this

[55:27] whole central channel starts to route

[55:30] itself into the earth. And that's that's

[55:35] what we want. We want to be grounded. We

[55:37] want to be stable. And and if there's,

[55:40] you know, just a couple of more minutes,

[55:43] I or less, I can tell you that.

[55:46] >> Take your time, Dr. Sue. You're you're

[55:48] bringing us the elixir we need.

[55:51] >> Okay. Good. Good. Here we go. So, back

[55:53] to this image. If there's a gap here

[55:56] somewhere, interference, we'll just call

[55:58] it interference. Many people would call

[56:00] it their blockages. I'm saying there's

[56:02] no thing in you that you need to get rid

[56:04] of. You don't have a blockage. There's

[56:06] no problem. There's just circuits that

[56:08] haven't been built yet. So, to build the

[56:10] energetic circuitry, here's what we can

[56:12] do. If you are triggered about

[56:14] something, your body is how you're going

[56:17] to land yourself. We have to remember

[56:19] this. We came here to embody. We're in

[56:21] the physical world, our physical body

[56:23] has everything to do with why we're

[56:25] here. Okay? So, let's just envision

[56:28] right now that that in the doorway of

[56:30] the room that you're sitting in right

[56:32] now, someone who triggers you walks into

[56:34] that doorway and you feel it. Your body

[56:37] reacts. Your energy rushes over to them.

[56:40] Your heart starts pounding. You feel

[56:42] empty and likely some sort of

[56:45] nervousness or shakiness is accompanying

[56:48] that in some way. someone you've had a

[56:50] difficult time with in the past. They

[56:52] represented in some way. Maybe it's a

[56:53] situation, not even a person. It could

[56:55] be a life circumstance. You know, the

[56:57] the the money's not there or the the the

[57:01] person who left you or whatever it might

[57:03] be, the job that you can't find,

[57:04] whatever. Put it in the doorway and look

[57:06] at it and all of your energy rushes over

[57:09] there. And we have to realize that that

[57:11] you are made of photons, little

[57:13] particles of light. All right? And

[57:14] photons rush wherever your consciousness

[57:16] goes. Where your attention goes, energy

[57:19] flows. So your energy is rushing out of

[57:21] you and onto that them there. Okay? So

[57:26] that's called you being on an object

[57:28] instead of being on self, on subject. So

[57:31] look at them in the doorway and secretly

[57:34] just pull your energy back onto you.

[57:37] Just secretly pull it back home and take

[57:40] a belly breath. Squeeze mulab. Squeeze

[57:43] your shoulder blades down your spine.

[57:46] You're pulling these little photons

[57:48] right back in to self on self. You can

[57:52] still look at them and talk with them,

[57:54] but if you literally multitask at the

[57:56] same moment, pull this energy back onto

[57:59] self, you will feel like a different

[58:02] individual. You will feel different in

[58:04] this world, especially relative to this.

[58:07] Then you're going to take it a step

[58:08] further and you're going to ask, "Where

[58:11] in my system

[58:13] am I leaking energy onto them?" Because

[58:17] these little areas right here, it's

[58:19] going to leak. It's going to that's

[58:21] where it's going to be sucked right out

[58:22] and you're projecting all your power

[58:24] over there on them instead of using that

[58:28] moment to heal yourself up right here.

[58:30] So here's what we do. We just ask where

[58:33] in my body could I build the circuitry,

[58:36] the energetic circuitry to clear this up

[58:38] and make it look like this to move it

[58:40] closer and closer to this. And your mind

[58:43] is going to answer that question not

[58:44] with words. It's going to go. It's going

[58:46] to be thinking about this or it's going

[58:48] to be thinking about your chest or it's

[58:49] going to be thinking about your solar

[58:51] plexus or your gut below the naval

[58:53] something. It's just going to go

[58:55] somewhere. Your attention is going to go

[58:57] there. Even if your mind is working

[58:59] overtime and saying, "I don't feel

[59:02] anything. I don't know what you're

[59:03] talking about. I can't." You're you'll

[59:05] notice that you're extra aware of this

[59:08] area or this area or this area in your

[59:10] body at this time. And so in this,

[59:15] you now have found

[59:17] what you're supposed to be doing with

[59:19] your attention. So you go there with all

[59:22] of your attention. Let's say your mind

[59:24] landed below your navl in your gut or

[59:27] maybe it landed in your stomach area

[59:29] solar plexus or maybe it went right to

[59:31] your chest or maybe it took you right to

[59:34] the center of your brain. Wherever your

[59:36] mind went, that's the system mind, body,

[59:40] and breath trying to work together the

[59:43] way that they were designed to work

[59:45] together. But because we've been

[59:47] overthinking, the mind isn't in touch

[59:50] with the body and the breath. It's

[59:52] developed in ways body breath or just

[59:54] holding down the fort. They're not

[59:56] really in direct connection and

[59:58] communication. But this is how we start

[1:00:00] to knit them back together. You go

[1:00:02] wherever in your body your mind goes

[1:00:04] when you ask a simple question. Where in

[1:00:07] my body could I build the circuitry to

[1:00:10] be able to better handle this kind of

[1:00:11] situation and others? [snorts] And and

[1:00:15] then what happens? You go there and you

[1:00:17] sit in that spot and you breathe.

[1:00:21] And in that breath you love and you give

[1:00:26] it everything you've got right in there.

[1:00:29] And you find ways to let go of other

[1:00:32] thoughts and other ways of being

[1:00:36] that don't matter in this moment.

[1:00:39] Because 100% of you is supposed to go

[1:00:41] into this this place in your gut, in

[1:00:44] your heart, in your throat, in your

[1:00:46] naval area, wherever it is. And

[1:00:51] what will happen is that area will start

[1:00:54] to sit down. It will you will feel like

[1:00:58] you're you're there in some way that you

[1:01:00] weren't before. And the more you love

[1:01:03] inside that part of you specifically,

[1:01:08] the more dramatically you will feel what

[1:01:10] I'm talking about right now. And so when

[1:01:13] you sit down in that area and are loving

[1:01:16] and breathing, it lands. And when it

[1:01:20] lands, then you begin this central

[1:01:24] channel breath. You take a breath from

[1:01:27] wherever it had you and you exhale into

[1:01:29] the earth. Just exhale into the earth

[1:01:32] right through your pelvis straight down

[1:01:34] as if you could breathe through the tip

[1:01:36] of your spine. And then you take a

[1:01:38] breath up from the tip of your through

[1:01:40] from the earth through the tip of your

[1:01:42] spine through mulab that you're

[1:01:44] contracting into wherever this area was

[1:01:47] that brought you and then you exhale

[1:01:50] from that area out the top of this

[1:01:53] central channel because what you're

[1:01:55] doing I I'll tell you in a minute now

[1:01:57] breathe in again from overhead right

[1:01:59] back into that area wherever it was and

[1:02:03] then exhale down into the earth again.

[1:02:08] And in that, what you're doing, you can

[1:02:11] do it two or three times. What you're

[1:02:12] doing is you're reestablishing this.

[1:02:16] You're moving it right through here in

[1:02:18] ways that are destined and designed to

[1:02:22] be organized in your system. I'm so

[1:02:24] sorry.

[1:02:30] So in that we're building the energetic

[1:02:33] circuitry that allows us to start moving

[1:02:36] from here. So one triggered moment by

[1:02:39] another by another by another by another

[1:02:43] is going to direct you in how to clean

[1:02:45] this up

[1:02:47] without trying to figure out the story.

[1:02:49] You're just working with the raw energy

[1:02:51] underneath. And that's what we're here

[1:02:54] to do. Not get involved in the drama.

[1:02:57] not think we have to go get the

[1:02:58] forgiveness of someone or forgive them

[1:03:00] or let them know. It's all about

[1:03:04] your levels of consciousness that you

[1:03:06] are embracing and allowing to become

[1:03:08] animated. And when you do those

[1:03:11] forgivenesses, they take care of

[1:03:12] themselves. Those letting go of things

[1:03:14] that we try so hard to do, they take

[1:03:16] care of themselves. And you know,

[1:03:18] lastly, I'll just say, Tammy, the reason

[1:03:19] for my scoliosis was this. Look, can you

[1:03:22] see how scoliosis would exist right

[1:03:24] there in a beautiful way? is just

[1:03:26] because of aspects of our greatness that

[1:03:28] we haven't embraced, aspects of our

[1:03:30] wholeness that we haven't animated, that

[1:03:32] we don't even know what they are. So,

[1:03:34] this is a way of getting them enlivened

[1:03:37] without us having to figure it out

[1:03:39] intellectually because actually our mind

[1:03:42] is is the last to know. There's so much

[1:03:45] more wisdom on the rise that what we

[1:03:47] want to do is train the mind to listen

[1:03:49] and to be the steward of this system

[1:03:52] that we're talking about instead of

[1:03:53] trying to use our minds to override our

[1:03:56] fears and our concerns about what's

[1:03:59] happening in the world today. We just

[1:04:01] need to become a stabilizing presence.

[1:04:03] And as a byproduct of that, we end up

[1:04:06] walking straight through things instead

[1:04:08] of having to try to outrun them or hide

[1:04:11] from them in some way. you know, as the

[1:04:14] world is doing right now.

[1:04:17] >> Some people might say our conversation

[1:04:19] was esoteric. I have to say I found it

[1:04:21] extraordinarily practical.

[1:04:24] >> Thank you so much. And I do hope to come

[1:04:26] back around with you for uh part two.

[1:04:29] I've been speaking I will I will Dr. Sue

[1:04:32] Mortar. We're talking about her book,

[1:04:34] The Anatomy of Awakening and the

[1:04:36] Energetic Architecture that supports our

[1:04:40] full potential [music]

[1:04:42] here and now. Thank you so much, Dr.

[1:04:44] Sue. Really loved the conversation.

[1:04:47] >> Thank you for the invitation and thank

[1:04:48] you, Tammy, for all that you've done for

[1:04:49] so many years, for so many people in so

[1:04:52] many [music] ways. It's it's a true

[1:04:54] inspiration for humanity. So, thank you.

[1:04:57] Many blessings. Blessings to you.

[1:05:01] Candy. Super.

[1:05:04] Super.

[1:05:06] Super.

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A spiritual experience opens your mind to a different reality but doesn't necessarily change how you live or heal. Lasting awakening requires embodying that consciousness in your body and nervous system, integrating it into relationships and daily life, not just visiting it in meditation.
Worry about regulation is itself dysregulating. The nervous system is built to self-regulate if you stop interfering. The effort and anxiety of trying to fix it becomes the problem. Real regulation happens when you stop fighting and allow the system's natural intelligence to do its work.
Beyond the traditional seven chakras, Dr. Morter identifies five additional energy centers (chakras 8-12) that extend beyond the physical body and connect us to the unified field of consciousness. They represent our capacity to hold and transmit more light and participate in dimensions of awareness beyond the individual self.
You build energetic circuitry by learning to bring the same vibrational frequencies you experienced during the peak moment into your embodied nervous system. This happens through practices like spherical breathing, mula bandha, and meeting triggers in the body with presence rather than getting lost in their stories.
Spherical breathing is breathing in all directions simultaneously—inhaling from above, below, and all around; exhaling outward in every direction. It shifts you from the ego's grasping orientation to receptivity and radiance, and it helps reorganize the nervous system's electrical activity to hold more consciousness.
No. It means not stopping at transcendence. The real work is bringing that light into the body and the world, letting it reshape how you relate to others and heal your own nervous system. Transcendence without embodiment creates instability; embodiment without transcendence is incomplete. Both are necessary.
When consciousness becomes fully embodied and the nervous system learns to hold and channel more light without distortion, the body's own healing intelligence activates. Her physical ailments resolved not through force but through allowing that integrated consciousness to reorganize her physiology naturally.

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