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Iran War Channeling: What the Archangels Said About Chaos

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Next Level Soul
Oct 27, 2026
8 min de lecture

Source : Next Level Soul Podcast

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Sheila Gillette, a direct voice medium who has channeled a collective she calls THEO for more than five decades, sat down with host Alex on the Next Level Soul podcast to take on a question that the headlines had made urgent: is there an energetic reason behind the current conflict, and what do the archangels make of the chaos? The ninety-minute conversation moves from that question to a story from the early 1970s that gives the whole session its weight, a set of notebooks filled with information Gillette says arrived through automatic writing before it reached the news. Along the way it lays out THEO's framework of third, fourth, and fifth dimensional consciousness, a claim that the outer world mirrors the inner one, and a view that the old systems built on fear and control are coming apart. What follows explains those ideas on their own terms, and separates what Gillette reports from what she is asserting.

Lecture · 6 sections

Is there an energetic reason for the conflict?

The episode opens on the question itself. Alex asks whether there is "an energetic reasoning for this specific conflict," and the answer Gillette gives is less a geopolitical analysis than a reframing. When she tunes in, she says, THEO describes what is happening as the dissolution of old patterns, structures, and foundations. "What we're watching is the dissolution, if you would, of old patterns, old structures, old foundations crumbling," she says. "But it's not only happening externally; it's what's happening internally to all of us."

This is the central move of the whole conversation. The external turbulence is treated as a mirror. As Gillette relays it, THEO holds that "the outside world is just but a reflection of what's inside each and every one of us," and that as individuals come into their centered selves, peace follows in the world. The tool THEO offers for that inner work is what Gillette calls the soul integrative process, which she describes as a method for bringing about "unconditional love of self." Her shorthand for the stakes is simple: if everybody loves themselves enough, there will be peace.

Readers should note the limits of what is shown here. The visible portion of the transcript gives THEO's general frame, including the line that "each and every one of you is the second coming of the Christos" and the idea that waves of people now seeking community reflect "fifth dimensionary energy." It does not offer a country-by-country or policy-level account of the conflict, and the framework is one a viewer can weigh rather than verify.

What did a Watergate prediction look like from the inside?

The most concrete story in the episode is the one Gillette returns to when Alex asks where THEO's messages began. She dates the beginning of her public work to 1969, after a near-death experience, and says THEO came through in 1971. The first material, she says, concerned Watergate. "I was doing automatic writing, and I could hear the messages, and I got notebooks full of Watergate information" before the story surfaced publicly, roughly two years ahead of it.

Her reaction, by her own account, was disbelief. She had already received information she could not have known and that proved true, which gave her grounds to trust the source, but the content still seemed extreme. She says THEO told her to take it to the president, and she declined. "I'm not going to tell anybody," she recalls. Then the news caught up with the notebooks.

The corroboration came later. Gillette says that about sixteen years on, while living in Santa Fe, New Mexico, she met John Ehrlichman, whom she described as an aide to the president. They became friendly, she shared what she had received, and by her account he "corroborated everything that I'd gotten behind the scenes." She also reports his point about the men convicted in the affair: Ehrlichman and Bob Haldeman knew each other from working in the White House, while the other three, in his telling, had only met in court. "It made it sound like they were all in cahoots," she says. For Gillette, that conversation was the point at which her notebooks stopped being private material and became, in her words, validation that "solidified everything."

"I got to tell you to have that validation. Oh, that solidified everything!"

— Sheila Gillette, Next Level Soul, around 4:30

It is worth separating the two layers here. The episode presents a personal, first-hand account: a set of notebooks, a meeting, and a conversation that Gillette remembers as confirming her earlier writing. Whether a reader finds that persuasive is a matter of judgment. What it does establish is the origin of the authority Gillette brings to the rest of her claims, because the claims about the present rest on the same channel that produced the Watergate material.

Why does the 1960s keep coming up?

Alex frames the present moment against the upheaval of his own youth, citing the 1960s and the assassinations of John F. Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King Jr., and Malcolm X, along with the Nixon years and the Reagan-era attempt on the president's life. Gillette agrees that the 1960s carried a rejection of the 1950s, and she locates the start of the current shift in that decade. "It's all been the evolution that we're in right now, since back in the day," she says.

The episode also clarifies a language point that is easy to miss. Gillette says she was not called a channeler in the early years. "What I was called was a direct voice transmedium," she explains, adding that scientists used the word "channelers" for what she did. The term "channeling" did not become common until the 1980s. She and Alex place Jane Roberts, whose Seth material came through in the 1960s, and Edgar Cayce, active in the 1920s through the 1940s, within the same lineage of trance-based transmission. That context matters for the claim at the heart of the episode, which is that these teachings have been building for decades rather than arriving with the current news cycle.

What is the fifth dimension in THEO's framework?

The fifth dimension is the concept Gillette has written about for years, and it is the key to how THEO reads the present. In her account, the third dimension is physical reality, the fourth is the spiritual awakening, and the fifth is a different vector of time in which old patterns dissolve. She recalls that when she wrote her book on the subject, readers questioned whether humanity was only entering the fourth dimension. THEO insisted the shift was already underway, and Gillette says the alignment was "fully ... in place, locked in," which she dates to 2012.

Gillette's framing of the fifth dimension is one of collective shift, not individual escape. She describes people "standing up" and a growing number seeking community, and she argues that the sense of separation that powered the old systems is weakening. "The third and fourth dimensional realities are these old patterns that are dissolving," the episode's opening teaser states. The practical implication, as she frames it, is that the work happens inside each person first and then radiates outward.

What does THEO say about fear and the next five years?

Near the end, Alex asks what the next five years look like, and the conversation turns toward the emotional texture of the moment. Gillette's most direct observation is about fear. "When we get into fear, we get" constricted, she suggests, and the episode repeatedly returns to the idea that people are waking up and beginning to feel exhilarated by what they are finding. Alex, for his part, admits to a fascination with conspiracy theories and recalls how public trust in institutions has changed since the 1990s, when, as he puts it, there was no internet and far less information moving freely.

The question that closes the loop, and the one most readers will sit with, is whether any of this can be checked. Gillette's answer, across the episode, is that the proof lies in what people do with the framework: in the self-love work, in community, and in the willingness to stop cowering to leaders and see their own authority. That is a serious claim, and it is also one that asks the reader to bring their own discernment to it.

Where to go from here

If you want the full material, watch the complete episode, which runs about an hour and a half and includes the Watergate story, the channeling-terminology discussion, and the closing reflections on fear and community. Gillette's book on the fifth dimension lays out the framework in more depth than a single conversation can. Read her claims as her account of a long channeling practice, weigh the personal evidence she offers, and keep the most useful question in view, which she herself posed at the end of the episode: what is each of us ready to notice about the patterns we are dissolving?

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[0:00] Is there an energetic reasoning for this specific conflict?

[0:06] The revelation is that each and every one of you is the second

[0:11] coming of the Christos. Talking about these waves of awakening

[0:16] and people now seeking community-that's its fifth

[0:20] dimensionary energy. Is the Christ energy. The fifth

[0:24] dimension is a different vector of time, if you would. The third

[0:29] and fourth dimensional realities are these old patterns that are

[0:35] dissolving.

[0:36] Is there a question I should be asking that I'm not?

[0:39] What we would say to you, because of your curiosity, you

[0:46] are.

[0:56] I like to welcome back to the show returning champion Sheila

[0:59] Gillette. How you doing, Sheila?

[1:01] I'm doing great. It's good to be with you, Alex. We always have

[1:04] such fun.

[1:05] Yes, we do. We have amazing conversations. I absolutely

[1:09] adore Theo, and you've been on the show. I can't even count how

[1:13] many times now at this point. But it's it's always fun to talk

[1:17] to you and to discuss, you know, what's happening and what's

[1:21] Theo's point of view on a lot of this stuff. So I'm just going to

[1:25] dive in when with the first question. When you tune into

[1:30] Theo today, what are the what are they saying about the chaos

[1:34] we're seeing in the world right now?

[1:36] Well, what they say is it's theater. They say they've been

[1:41] talking for five decades about this time and the consciousness

[1:46] shift that's happening. So what we're watching is the

[1:50] dissolution, if you would, of old patterns, old structures,

[1:54] old foundations crumbling. But it's not only happening

[1:59] externally; it's what's happening internally to all of

[2:03] us, because what they say is the the outside world is just but a

[2:09] reflection of what's inside each and every one of us, and as we

[2:14] come into our centered selves, that there will be peace in the

[2:19] world, and as you know, they brought forth the soul

[2:23] integrative process as the process of how to make those

[2:30] changes within to bring about unconditional love of self. And

[2:35] if everybody loves himself enough, we'll have peace.

[2:38] Sheila, let me ask you though, and we were talking a little bit

[2:41] about this before we started the show. Is that this isn't the

[2:44] first time in recent history that everything seemed very

[2:48] chaotic? I mean, we don't want to go back all the way to like

[2:49] World War Two or World War One. That's a whole other

[2:51] conversation. But more currently, in our lifetimes, you

[2:55] know, the '60s and the '70s, you know, when I was born, Vietnam

[2:58] was still going on. But in the '60s, there was such major

[3:03] upheaval and almost a rejection of what the '50s were. The '50s

[3:09] had a very different energy than the '60s with the hippie

[3:11] movement, the youth, and then leaders just being you know

[3:16] killed everywhere. You know, from JFK, RFK, Martin Luther

[3:18] King Jr. and Malcolm X, among many others, who were

[3:23] assassinated back then, and then obviously the political, you

[3:26] know, with Richard Nixon and all that stuff. There was so much

[3:29] insanity going on there. How does was that like the spark at

[3:34] the beginning of this? Because when you started, what what year

[3:37] did you start talking to Theo, and when did Theo start talking

[3:39] about this?

[3:40] Well, I started doing my work in '69 when this I had my near

[3:44] death experience, and Theo came in in '71.

[3:49] Okay, so you're around that time. So when he starts, when

[3:52] they start talking about this time, there was a lot going on

[3:56] at that time. It's a major shift.

[3:58] Well, interestingly enough, the first some of the first stuff

[4:02] that came through was stuff about Watergate.

[4:04] Interesting. So they were saying they were talking about

[4:06] Watergate.

[4:07] Oh, I, I, yeah, and I was doing automatic writing, and I could

[4:13] hear the messages, and I got notebooks full of Watergate

[4:18] information

[4:19] Before two

[4:20] Two years before it came to the surface,

[4:24] What did you think when you started seeing that? You're

[4:26] like, "This is insane.

[4:27] Well, you know, I had been given so many things I couldn't not

[4:32] have known about that were true. That you know, I had evidence to

[4:39] build trust in what I was being told, I thought, "Wow, this is

[4:44] pretty out there, you know, because I couldn't imagine. And

[4:48] and they were saying, "You ought to tell the president these are

[4:51] my words, paraphrasing. Knock it off. But but I went, "I'm not

[4:57] going to tell anybody. It was. You know, eye opening, and then

[5:05] stuff started coming out in the news, and everything started

[5:08] surfacing, and things were being said that I had received the,

[5:16] and 16 years later, when I was living in Santa Fe, New Mexico,

[5:23] I met John Ehrlichman.

[5:25] Who's?

[5:26] John Ehrlichman was the aide to the president, like this chief

[5:31] of staff.

[5:31] Oh, chief of staff of Nixon.

[5:33] Of Nixon.

[5:34] Okay.

[5:34] At 40 years old.

[5:36] Oh, okay.

[5:37] And but he was living in Santa Fe at the time, and I met him.

[5:42] We became friendly, and so I shared with him what I had

[5:49] gotten, and we discussed it. And he corroborated everything that

[5:54] I'd gotten behind the scenes. But interestingly enough, you

[5:58] know, they were the the five guys that went to jail that were

[6:04] close to the president. He said, "Just he and Bob Halderman knew

[6:10] each other. They worked in the White House together. The other

[6:13] three, they only met in court. But it made it sound like they

[6:18] were all in cahoots. You know, they were all working together,

[6:22] which was quite interesting, but I got to tell you to have that

[6:25] validation.

[6:26] Oh, that solidified everything!

[6:28] Oh my gosh, yes.

[6:30] So that time period, though, what does Theo say about that

[6:33] time period? Because I mean,

[6:36] Well, then you know, and then we had Reagan,

[6:39] Yeah,

[6:39] Shot, yeah, in front of the same hotel,

[6:42] Right! I remember that. I was 82nd

[6:45] 80

[6:46] Something. Yeah, mid something. It wasn't his first term. I

[6:48] think it was at the beginning of his second or something like

[6:50] that, or at the end of the first. Yeah, something like

[6:52] that. But I remember it very vividly as well.

[6:54] So it's you know.

[6:57] So what did they? What do they say about that? Because the the

[7:01] modern new age movement and bringing into the forefront

[7:06] metaphysical ideas really started in the 60s. I mean, it's

[7:11] been around for several.

[7:13] It was 69 when I opened.

[7:15] Right. Yeah. Exactly. And and channelers weren't the all the

[7:18] rage. I don't even think you were called channelers at that

[7:20] point. No. That term didn't come around till later.

[7:22] What I was called was a direct voice transmedium. That was the

[7:28] term.

[7:28] Doesn't roll off the tongue. Well, channelers a little bit.

[7:32] That's what the the scientists called me because of the

[7:36] process. And gosh, it wasn't until the 80s that channeling

[7:41] became the terminology,

[7:43] Right!

[7:43] When Jay Z Knight began, I think that

[7:46] Yeah, because Seth was around. When did Seth come in? 40s, 30s,

[7:52] or is it older? Or

[7:53] Oh, Seth?

[7:54] Yeah, the Seth, the Seth material.

[7:56] Um,

[7:57] It was earlier 1900s, if I'm not mistaken. I've seen well. There

[8:01] was

[8:02] Jane Roberts.

[8:03] Yeah, Jane Roberts, the channel.

[8:04] Oh, she was in the 60s.

[8:05] It was the 60s. I wasn't. I wasn't. Okay, so the 60s. So it

[8:08] was around. So again, the 60s was a big. Edgar Cayce was

[8:11] obviously. That's I'm thinking. Edgar Cayce was in the 20s and

[8:14] 30s. 20s,

[8:15] 30s, 40s. The war, Second World War, but it was Jane Roberts

[8:26] That she was like the first, and she was. I've seen film of her.

[8:29] That was, I mean, that was

[8:31] Intense.

[8:32] It's intense. That's, I mean, Theo's a very chilled chat. You

[8:36] know, but she was. It was really wild.

[8:39] Yeah,

[8:40] How she was not thrown into a loony bin at that time in

[8:44] history is beyond me.

[8:45] Yeah. Well, a lot of people were.

[8:48] Yeah, they were.

[8:49] Yeah.

[8:50] So, so did they? So did they say anything? So did Theo ever say

[8:53] anything in regards to the 60s being the catalyst of this shift

[8:57] that that we were going through?

[8:59] Well, it's all been the evolution that we're in right

[9:01] now, since

[9:02] back in the

[9:03] day. Well, the fifth dimension.

[9:05] You've been writing about that for decades.

[9:07] Oh yeah, five. But the thing was, is this has been a process

[9:13] of of the the Earth aligning to this new dimensional frequency,

[9:19] fifth dimension. The third is our physical reality. The

[9:23] fourth, the spiritual awakening. When I wrote the book, The Fifth

[9:27] Dimension, people, what do you mean? We're only we're going

[9:31] into the fourth, and they said no, no, no, and it fully was in

[9:37] place, locked in. Let's say in 2012, and so all that

[9:43] information about the Mayan calendar. Well, they were

[9:46] talking about 2012 before that, and so that's been a part of

[9:54] this awakening and opening. And I've been doing this work five

[9:58] decades. I've watched about it. Every 10 years now, it's

[10:01] quickened. It's happening more and more on a daily basis. These

[10:06] waves of people waking up, having their own

[10:09] experiences-that's what I mean by waking up. They're they're

[10:14] having their own psychic, if you will, experiences, their own

[10:18] connectivity to source or guidance, and that's why it

[10:22] should be. And I've always talked about that. If I'm

[10:26] connected and able to do this, we all are.

[10:29] Yeah, of course.

[10:30] You know, and that's well, and that's what we've been

[10:34] observing. You know, when I started, it wasn't even a

[10:38] conversation to be had in public.

[10:40] Oh God!

[10:41] You know, people were terrified or fearful, or something bad's

[10:45] going to happen to you. So I didn't go in to social

[10:50] situations. Go, guess what I can do?

[10:54] Give me a second.

[10:55] Yeah,

[10:55] It is the time.

[10:57] You know, it's been evolving, and it's been wonderful to see

[11:03] this happening, but back to the '60s when that was all

[11:07] happening, it was revolutionary.

[11:10] Oh God,

[11:11] What was happening. Because, well, and that's when all the

[11:14] drug scenes started happening, and all all of that, which was a

[11:19] part because they were people those drugs that were coming on,

[11:25] open blew people wide open.

[11:27] Well, LSD,

[11:29] Yeah, and so they were having all these experiences.

[11:32] Yeah, the psychedelics,

[11:33] Yeah. So I think all of that

[11:37] Contributed

[11:38] Had had the influence of this quickened awakening, and look

[11:42] where we are in just that little con, as as in technology,

[11:50] everything that's happened in our lives. Now we can meet

[11:54] globally on the internet. You know, when I started my work, I

[11:59] was working one on one with people, or I was traveling to

[12:02] different cities,

[12:03] Doing little

[12:04] To small groups and personal sessions with people.

[12:09] That was the business,

[12:09] And then it was on the phone,

[12:11] Right!

[12:12] And now it's on Zoom,

[12:14] Right!

[12:15] You know, and Theo told me back then in the early 71 that this

[12:23] would be a global work, and that this what's happening right now

[12:28] would be happening. Wow! All right, so no evidence then, but

[12:32] now it's like wow.

[12:34] So since Theo has been on the mark for the last 50 years about

[12:39] what's coming, what's coming now? What has he said about, or

[12:44] what have they said about the next five or 10 years from now?

[12:48] Well, what they said originally, and and I wrote in the book, The

[12:52] Fifth Dimension, the chapter on prophecy, was exactly what's

[12:58] happening now. That there would be this awakened time, that all

[13:06] the the chaos will bring about the shift of structures, global

[13:12] economy, global connectivity, internet, all of the things that

[13:19] are happening now, plus this chaos of change, bringing about

[13:24] a new foundation. You know, they said people have believed in in

[13:29] the end of the the world. It's not the end of the world that

[13:33] the world will be here much longer than any of us that are

[13:35] here, but it would be the end of old generational patternings

[13:41] that don't work anymore, and new being formed in and through us,

[13:46] but also affecting the world as in the sense of the foundations,

[13:51] economics. They said there would be an organization like the UN,

[13:57] only much more powerful in the future. It's what I heard the

[14:03] other day on one of the new shows. Maybe John Stewart. He

[14:10] had on the woman that's the head of the UN right now, and she

[14:15] said where they're going is they're creating a new

[14:17] structure, much more powerful. Almost the words that Theo said,

[14:21] Wow,

[14:22] And that it would be a collaborative world because

[14:25] we're one species on this planet and we're all connected. The

[14:29] pandemic showed us that there were no boundaries

[14:33] Or no no borders.

[14:35] Borders

[14:35] Right

[14:36] Perceived.

[14:37] They didn't care about race. They didn't care about language.

[14:39] Didn't care about any of those.

[14:40] No. So all of this is a contributation of that new

[14:47] birth, and Theo says, and birth can be messy, but the end result

[14:54] will be magnificent.

[14:57] So energetically, right now, the Iran. War that the U.S. has kind

[15:03] of started, and we're in. What is that? What are you seeing

[15:07] energetically there? Because there's obviously karma between

[15:11] these two energies. I mean, back when I was growing up, the Iran,

[15:16] the Iran hostages, and all of that. I remember in first grade

[15:23] drawing pictures, like bring the bring the hostages home and all

[15:26] that stuff. So there's a long, long, and that's just then.

[15:29] There's a longer history with this country. What is it

[15:32] energetically? What are we? What is happening with this? Why are

[15:36] we doing this? What's the purpose of it? What's the

[15:38] outcome going to be?

[15:40] Well, it's it's the same old paradigm, isn't it? That that

[15:45] the third dimensional paradigms of there's not enough for

[15:50] everybody.

[15:51] Yeah.

[15:52] So we need to have what you have. We need to take away from

[15:56] you. But also, there's the idea ideologies that are different

[16:03] that haven't been respected too, you know the respect between you

[16:08] and I, and respecting our differences. We're more the same

[16:12] than we are different, really. And I'm talking about cultures,

[16:16] Humans in general. Humans in general. We want love. We want

[16:19] to take care of our family. We want to be able to have a yeah.

[16:22] We all want the same things. There's a few of us,

[16:26] Just a couple

[16:27] That that want to be in power and control everybody and

[16:30] everything. There's always been that in our history, our global

[16:34] history, and that's what's changing. That consciousness is

[16:40] changing. That's part of the new birth, and that's where we come

[16:44] in, because it's changing in each and every one of us. And

[16:49] Theo said, "By the people, these changes will come. And look

[16:53] what's happening in the world. The people are standing up

[16:58] against

[16:59] All of it

[17:00] Politics,

[17:01] Politics, farm, education, media, every major religion,

[17:08] every major foundational thing, industries are being people are

[17:13] just like no, we do not want this in our food. We don't want

[17:17] this in our education. We don't want this in our religion. You

[17:21] know they're fighting back.

[17:22] Yeah,

[17:24] Where before they were much more quiet.

[17:26] Well, giving the power away.

[17:29] Yeah,

[17:29] They'll take care of it.

[17:31] And now that they see that it's not being taken care of, yeah,

[17:33] everyone's starting to get angry and start to go. You were saying

[17:36] that we're we're changing these paradigms. This seems to be the

[17:42] first time in human history that this has happened, and when I

[17:44] say that, I'm not talking about the human history that we've

[17:48] talked about. I mean, if you do believe Atlantis was there, and

[17:53] there have been multiple cycles, even if you go into the Vedic

[17:55] texts and things like multiple yuga cycles and things like that

[17:59] of humanity, that there's up and down and destruction and wipe

[18:02] out and we start again and all this kind of stuff. This is the

[18:06] first time that we've ever agreed as a consciousness to

[18:10] shift out of these old paradigms. Yeah, I think it was

[18:14] a cry on our friend Lee Carroll. Yeah, he said it's a train track

[18:20] that we've been going around and around. This is the first time

[18:22] we've gotten off this track, and we're on a new track.

[18:25] Yeah,

[18:25] And this is uncharted territory for humanity in the history of

[18:28] it is. We're birthing a new world. Yeah, it's

[18:31] Not in a bad way, you know. Yeah, there, you know, in the

[18:35] the conspiratorial world, you know, we're having we're going

[18:39] to be in a new world, and everything's going to go away,

[18:42] and no, no, it's going to be different. And it has to be.

[18:46] It's going to be better.

[18:48] It has to be.

[18:49] Yeah,

[18:49] Because we can't keep going like this. If we kept going like

[18:52] this, we'd we'd be done in about 100 years. Like we'd run out of

[18:55] resources. We run out of.

[18:57] We already are starting to because of of Ill-perceived

[19:03] choices,

[19:04] Greed, control, power-that kind of stuff. We have more than

[19:09] enough to feed the entire world.

[19:10] We do.

[19:11] We have more than enough to give everybody everything that they

[19:14] need.

[19:15] But you know what Theo says, and this is where it comes to us to

[19:18] make the inner changes: is if all the money in the world was

[19:24] equally distributed,

[19:25] Yeah, no, I'll go back.

[19:27] That if people didn't change on the inner about their belief

[19:31] about it, all the people who have all the money would have it

[19:36] all again because it's a mindset.

[19:40] Absolutely, it's the whole lottery ticket thing. Most like

[19:43] the thing is, like a third of everyone who wins the lottery

[19:45] loses it all because they can't handle it. They don't.

[19:48] Well, they don't believe they deserve it.

[19:49] There's that on a sub on a deep deep subconscious.

[19:52] And so get rid of it. Get rid of it. Get rid of it. You know, all

[19:58] of us know people even. Maybe ourselves that if we have more

[20:06] than our best friend, we may lose our friend because we're

[20:10] different now.

[20:12] Oh yeah, absolutely.

[20:13] And and that fear of abandonment

[20:15] That's primal

[20:17] Is huge.

[20:18] It's primal.

[20:20] Yeah,

[20:21] It is primal yeah because you're being you're being rejected from

[20:25] the community from the from the tribe, and if you're not with

[20:28] the tribe, chances of survival are very minimal.

[20:30] And survival is paramount, even with our physical bodies. The

[20:35] body is always wanting to survive, and it's miraculous in

[20:40] the way it can heal itself, it's it's constantly coming or trying

[20:46] to be in homeostasis in in good health, and if we pay attention

[20:53] to it, we can achieve that. But we have to listen, be in our

[20:58] bodies, not give our power away. You know that's what we've done

[21:01] in the old patterns. Is we need collaborative people on our

[21:07] health team that listen to us

[21:11] And are more are with us for more than 30 seconds when we go

[21:15] into a doctor's meeting.

[21:16] Well, that's we go back to the old structures of greed.

[21:20] Yeah, and the and

[21:21] That's what dictated.

[21:22] I listen. I have a lot of relatives who are doctors, and I

[21:26] I had relatives who were in the old system, where you could like

[21:31] be a doctor or a lawyer, and that's where you're going to

[21:33] make all your money. Yeah.

[21:34] Well, it's been true.

[21:35] It has been, but not anymore. Now doctors are treated like

[21:39] cattle. They have to hit marks. They have to like all these

[21:43] giant companies are just moving them around or under.

[21:46] Yeah, it's all corporate.

[21:47] It's all corporate. So like they can't be with you more than

[21:49] unless they have their own practice. They can't spend more

[21:52] than five minutes with you because they have to hit a quota

[21:55] and all this kind of stuff. So I've heard it from they're like

[21:58] I would have two doctor friends, two relatives or doctors-they're

[22:02] like, we would never do this if we would have. I would would

[22:04] never have gone down this road if we would have known this was

[22:07] going to.

[22:07] Well, we've I've known doctors who have stopped practicing and

[22:11] and went into other things. Yeah,

[22:14] Yeah, it's it it. But things are starting to shift very very much

[22:18] so with this great awakening, Sheila. What are people, what

[22:22] are people getting wrong about this awakening? Where what are

[22:26] they misunderstanding about not only the awakening within

[22:28] themselves, but awakening within the entire consciousness?

[22:32] Fear, it all based in fear. That's what if something bad's

[22:37] going to happen, you know. Everything that has been

[22:45] promoted is fear-based, as we know in media and and film. And

[22:51] you've been in the film industry for years, and and that sells

[22:56] Because it's it's it's a primal thing for us. We yeah, if we if

[23:01] we lead with love and heartfelt and yeah and that does get you,

[23:08] but if you have right next to it, this is horrible thing is

[23:12] going to happen. You will look at the horrible because it's

[23:15] It's the train wreck.

[23:16] it's also the primal thing. Like how is this going to affect me?

[23:19] How is this going to affect my family? How is this going to

[23:20] affect my country, which all goes back to how is this going

[23:24] to affect me?

[23:24] Basically, yeah. And so, this is a time that that belief system

[23:32] is part of the change. Theo encourages people to, when they

[23:37] get in that fear-based thing of what if something bad's going to

[23:41] happen to flip it and say, "What if something good's going to

[23:45] happen? and begin to create that mindset out of the old fight,

[23:52] flight, fear, automatic response, which has been our

[23:58] third dimensional response. But we're more powerful than that.

[24:03] But we're afraid of it. We're afraid of being as powerful as

[24:06] we are. We're afraid of admitting to ourselves that we

[24:11] have the same abilities as all these avatars on the wall. They

[24:16] just happen to be walking the path a little farther ahead of

[24:20] us. But I'll always go back to what Jesus said. Everything I

[24:24] can do, you can do, and more.

[24:26] Yeah,

[24:26] The kingdom of heaven's within you. He was saying these things

[24:30] over 2000 years ago.

[24:32] But now we're living in that Christos energy,

[24:36] Christ consciousness.

[24:37] Yes, you know Theo will say, Christ is not his last name.

[24:45] Well, to be fair, Jesus isn't his first either. No, I'm just,

[24:49] I'm just saying.

[24:51] Yeah, so that's its fifth dimensionary energy, is the

[24:56] Christ energy, and many people who have come back. Embodied to

[25:01] be here for this time was they were there then, because it's

[25:06] not. It's Theo talks about this is the second coming, but it's

[25:11] not about one individual. It's about us. We are the coming, the

[25:19] second coming.

[25:20] That's beautiful.

[25:21] The expression of that Christos energy, and to your point, all

[25:30] of you can do what I do. That he was talking about this time, and

[25:37] so I think it's fascinating As I observe, because I've been a

[25:44] great observer of this 50 years of evolution of people, I find

[25:51] it really exciting. I'm not afraid at all. I think I'm

[25:55] really optimistic, and the people I see coming forth now to

[26:02] do similar work that I do, I've mentored a few of them, and it's

[26:08] just to me phenomenal. And it's such a good way to bring that

[26:14] truth of love forward even stronger and more vibrantly, and

[26:21] people are grasping it, and they're using it, and they're

[26:24] having evidence in their lives that they do have power.

[26:28] I find it pretty fascinating how, from your perspective,

[26:33] there's a handful of you who've been doing this for a long time.

[26:36] You, Daryl Anka, Lee Carroll has been doing it for a minute too.

[26:41] You've seen it transition.

[26:44] They're just puppies. They're just new guys.

[26:48] They're the new guys. I know. I know. You're the OG. There's no

[26:50] question. You're the OG.

[26:51] I love to hear about that.

[26:53] But but within that time period, you know, 30, 40 years to see

[26:57] the change within this. I got to imagine. You know, when you see

[27:03] a show like this getting hundreds of 1000s, if not

[27:06] millions, of views on an episode, that must have been

[27:09] unconscionable to you back.

[27:12] Well, Theo told me it would be happening, and so I didn't know

[27:16] how. Yeah, yeah, TV. You're like on TV. You didn't have

[27:20] computers, you know. So it was like, okay, you know,

[27:26] Sure, sure, Theo.

[27:28] And now it's so exciting when we do webinars, and we're sitting

[27:34] there. Theo calls it the oh, I called it the global living

[27:38] room. I just get chills because Theo told me this would be

[27:43] happening, and we're sitting there with people all over the

[27:47] world, as you have too, being a part of that community, and it's

[27:55] magic.

[27:56] It is pretty magical.

[27:57] It's so magical that we, in just a a tiny bit of time, just a few

[28:04] years, this has come to fruition, and that's not going

[28:07] to stop. From what Theo says, innovation will keep going.

[28:11] There's a quickening that's happened to move this forward.

[28:15] Because people say to me, "Well, how long is this going to last?

[28:20] Well, you know, this dissolution is happening quickly, daily. If

[28:25] you think about how quick things are moving, that's the

[28:30] quickening.

[28:31] God, it's so fast.

[28:32] Yeah. So, who knows?

[28:34] I mean,

[28:35] It could be tomorrow.

[28:36] As of this recording, we've been doing this over five years. This

[28:40] show has been around for over five years. What I've seen just

[28:44] these five years-the the explosion of other shows, other

[28:49] content, other creators, other people trying to put the word

[28:53] out of things. I mean, when I came in, there was a handful of

[28:57] podcasts. Now there's hundreds, not 1000s, talking about every

[29:02] aspect of spirituality and awakening and all this stuff,

[29:05] I'm like, wow, this is pretty, it's pretty amazing how fast

[29:10] everything is going. It's it's pretty pretty amazing to watch,

[29:14] and I can like, well, if we just did the math, five years from

[29:18] now, I can't even comprehend where we're going to be.

[29:20] Oh, I know,

[29:21] And what it's going to even look like, and what platforms will be

[29:24] out there, and all of that.

[29:27] Yeah, because before we had home computers, before all of this,

[29:34] we couldn't imagine what that would look like. I mean, when

[29:37] Theo told me this, this would be a global movement.

[29:42] You're like, how the hell?

[29:44] And that Theo would be talking to people globally, and I'm

[29:47] thinking, I'm one person, and right now I have to fly to New

[29:50] York to see people, and I, you know, I just couldn't imagine

[29:55] what that would look like. How that could that many. 8 billion

[30:01] people could be reached by just one

[30:05] Person.

[30:05] Person

[30:06] At this at the same time.

[30:07] Yeah, and it was just like.

[30:10] So what? So what has Theo? So then has is has Theo told you

[30:14] anything in recent year? This let's say this year or last

[30:19] year, he's told you something. You're like, yeah, I don't know

[30:22] how we're gonna do that like he's saying something similar

[30:24] like well you know we're all gonna be walking around on the

[30:27] moon and we're gonna do this or that or like whatever yeah it is

[30:30] what what is is there been something he said to you that

[30:33] you can't wrap your head around now

[30:35] No I don't because of so much evidence I've had over the

[30:41] years.

[30:42] No, I know you believe him, but has he said something that you

[30:44] just truly don't understand how we're going to get there? You

[30:46] believe that it'll happen, like like this, like I'm going to

[30:48] talk to billions of people around the world, or we have the

[30:50] accountability. So, is there anything like that?

[30:53] You know, honestly, I can't think of anything

[30:56] Because we're just

[30:56] Because we're in it,

[30:58] And and everything

[30:59] Every day

[31:00] Something new is coming out.

[31:02] I think the thing that really brought that home to me when we

[31:06] could see space. I love the space stuff.

[31:11] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[31:11] You know when Elon Musk launched those two spaceships that went

[31:17] off and they landed.

[31:19] That was pretty cool. I got to say,

[31:20] I try to watch all that stuff if I can live.

[31:23] Yeah, yeah.

[31:25] And but the you know the pictures of space-they're so

[31:29] beautiful. Oh, with the new telescope up there, yeah. I

[31:33] mean, that to me just gives me chills.

[31:36] Well, just

[31:37] it's amazing, even in medicine, daily new stuff happening. I

[31:45] mean, open heart surgery, and they send you home that day. I

[31:50] mean, seriously, folks, this is

[31:53] It's an outpatient procedure.

[31:55] Yeah, it's just you know, in medicine, new innovative

[32:01] surgeries.

[32:03] I saw a doctor. I saw a doctor in like Europe did a surgery in

[32:07] New York from Europe. Like he was a robot controlling it

[32:12] through the internet.

[32:14] A lot of robotic surgeries,

[32:16] But but the point is that he yeah that's one thing. Like when

[32:18] the doctor's in the other room, I've never heard of one on the

[32:21] other side of the world, who happened to be like one of the

[32:23] best surgeons on the planet, apparently, and he's now able to

[32:27] not have to fly. He can do multiple surgeries for around

[32:31] the world from Germany, kind of thing. And you're like, what is

[32:35] this?

[32:36] So to back to your question: Is there anything? No, because of

[32:41] those kinds of things are happening every single day, and

[32:44] if we look for those, and I know you do, you're curious about the

[32:48] good stuff, as I am. You know, if we look for that good stuff,

[32:54] there's a lot of good stuff going on. I think we'd all get

[32:58] calmer about the changes that are happening, but most of us

[33:03] fear change because we don't know what who will be or what it

[33:07] will be like.

[33:09] Back to our primal stuff.

[33:11] Yeah, so we just have to be in it

[33:15] To see what happens,

[33:16] And not to just assume what might happen, but just to be in

[33:20] the process of it happening, and it's moving so fast that this

[33:25] this opening. I mean, that just from where I started to where we

[33:30] are now, it's just amazing to me. So that's why I'm

[33:35] optimistic. I know we, the human species, are amazing, and when

[33:40] we get that knowledge that we are, more great things will

[33:46] happen.

[33:48] Well, let's. We've been talking about this Theo character for a

[33:50] while now. So, if and we just jumped into our conversation.

[33:56] Yeah, we did. And and I'm assuming if someone's watching

[33:59] this for the first time, they're like, "What is Theo? What is

[34:01] happening? Who are you? Who are you people? So we've done

[34:06] multiple other interviews. So if anybody's interested, they can

[34:08] go to those. But really quickly, just explain who Theo is and

[34:11] then how you're going to jump into him.

[34:13] Okay. Well, Theo is not one, but 12 archangels that speak

[34:20] collectively as one voice, and they call themselves Theo. They

[34:25] will not identify singularly because they said the message is

[34:28] what's important, not the messenger.

[34:30] So they have no egos. That's nice.

[34:33] Or judgment.

[34:34] That's even. That's even. That's also. This is really nice.

[34:37] And they've been coming through this body, by permission, they

[34:42] said we made an agreement, which we did. When I asked God for a

[34:49] job,

[34:50] Careful what you wish for.

[34:51] I know exactly. If I'd had a roster of jobs, maybe I wouldn't

[34:54] have chosen this, but I'm glad I did. Now, but they come in the

[35:00] right. Side of my body, they take over my vocal cords.

[35:03] There's a change of voice, and they speak directly to us. And

[35:09] it is question activated. They told me one time we could tell

[35:16] you a lot, lot of things, but what we want to do is meet you

[35:21] where you are, so that you can grow, so that you can

[35:26] understand. And over the years, they've elevated us because

[35:34] we're. My husband says we're only limited by our intelligence

[35:39] and the questions we ask, because they'll answer

[35:43] Anything,

[35:44] As you know. Oh, we've had those discussions. So, as people are

[35:50] evolving so quickly, it's amazing what they're teaching us

[35:54] now because we're ready for it.

[35:58] Right, exactly. Now we're we're we've graduated kindergarten and

[36:03] preschool, and now we're starting to get to a little

[36:06] higher of the higher grade levels that we can now

[36:08] comprehend deeper ideas, deeper concepts. We're ready for it

[36:12] Now.

[36:13] So, all right, let's.

[36:14] Well, one other statement I have to please that I really enjoy

[36:17] now is having peers. You know when I, you know you mentioned

[36:23] Lee Carroll and Bashar, and you know I I've been privileged to

[36:28] meet them at different conferences now that we've we've

[36:33] all been involved in, and as you know, Esther is a has been a

[36:37] friend and a client, yeah, and so it's just such a delight now

[36:44] to have friends that we speak the same language. We all know

[36:49] that, you know, to have a community of people to get you,

[36:53] you're not so weird anymore. So you know that's been a great

[36:59] privilege.

[37:00] That's that must be. I mean, yeah. When you're like alone in

[37:03] an island somewhere, you're like, God, I have to get a

[37:06] Wilson ball. That's the only person I can talk to really

[37:09] about this. And now you're like, Oh, look, there's another one.

[37:12] Oh, there's another one. There's another one. Now there's a

[37:14] community of us. So yeah, and it's growing every day.

[37:17] It is.

[37:18] It's a lot of that. It is. And I've talked to a lot of them. I

[37:21] know

[37:22] You have. You met a lot of the people. I haven't met everybody

[37:25] that you've met, but I have met several, and it's delightful.

[37:30] It is pretty amazing. It is pretty amazing

[37:31] Because, as you know, with your community, people are looking

[37:34] for community.

[37:36] Yes,

[37:36] They're looking for people they can talk to about what's going

[37:42] on for them in their awakenings and their experiences, and it's

[37:48] it's just that's that's the awakening I'm talking about.

[37:53] These waves of awakening and people now seeking community

[37:58] where they won't be the weird one out, you know, that they can

[38:02] be seen and heard and known.

[38:03] Yeah, when we did the when we did our ascension conference, we

[38:06] had a beautiful group of souls that came from around the world.

[38:09] I know some of our community came. Yeah, they were they loved

[38:13] it.

[38:13] It really was a beautiful experience to be in that room.

[38:17] The energy in that room was so beautiful. And the biggest

[38:20] takeaway we got is everybody was like, oh my god, this is heaven.

[38:23] I could just talk freely. Everybody around me is all on

[38:27] the same page. My language. Everyone I could just talk to.

[38:30] I'm like, yeah, you know, I had a near death experience. Oh, I

[38:32] did too. That was great. Like I talked to. Yeah, I have a

[38:35] channel. Oh yeah, I have. It's it's amazing that everybody had

[38:39] that beautiful experience. I think that's what people are

[38:41] looking for more and more.

[38:42] Well, they are, you know, and there's so many people that

[38:45] don't have someone to talk to still now, but it's it's going

[38:52] to be more the norm.

[38:53] I'll tell you something before we start, Sheila, with Theo. Is

[38:56] I had a version of that in my life, which was being a

[39:01] filmmaker in South Florida in the late '80s, early '90s was

[39:06] pretty much almost being in a desert. Was very few people. I

[39:10] mean, nowadays everybody knows what a filmmaker is and what a

[39:12] director is, and this is

[39:13] And it's all over the world

[39:15] And it's everywhere now. You had to go to film school because

[39:17] that's the only place you can get information about becoming a

[39:19] filmmaker. Now it's everywhere, and you know, when I was growing

[39:23] up, the occasional Raiders of the Lost Ark or Star Wars

[39:25] documentary on how they made it was all I had, and I felt so

[39:29] alone. And I would see like shows about L.A. or about

[39:34] Hollywood, and I would watch movies. I was that was my only.

[39:38] I couldn't speak to my my friends didn't understand it

[39:40] when I said I was going to a film school, they're like, "What

[39:43] the hell is that? Like this is insane kind of thing. So I had a

[39:46] version of that. Now everybody talks to me about yeah the green

[39:51] screen here, the angle here, this how you get the light here,

[39:54] and this new generation that's growing up with all this

[39:56] information is magical to see. So I have a version. What you

[40:00] had in my in my microcosm of my life is pretty interesting.

[40:05] Marcus and I, my husband, we like to watch documentaries.

[40:10] Yeah, I love documentaries,

[40:10] And you know it's so fun to see where everybody starts from. It

[40:16] really is. And as you were speaking about that, I was

[40:19] thinking about Steven Spielberg, and and that was so fun to see.

[40:25] He had his little camera, and he was out there as a young boy

[40:28] making films,

[40:30] Little war movies with the Super Eight. Yeah, or I think it was

[40:32] just eight. I don't even think it was Super Eight. It was just

[40:34] eight millimeter cameras.

[40:35] Yeah, and so the where I came from kind of thing. We all love

[40:42] that

[40:43] Well the origin stories we all love the origin I'm upset I read

[40:47] so many biographies and I've studied so many people's lives

[40:50] to see what how they worked it how to learn from their paths

[40:55] Because we all see the successful person

[40:58] Oh yeah but

[40:59] And we think oh they came that way

[41:01] Overnight success. Overnight success. Yeah,

[41:03] Yeah,

[41:04] Yeah, yeah. But the thing, yeah, people look at our show and

[41:06] they're like, "Oh, look at them! They they're so successful. I'm

[41:09] like, 11 years I've been podcasting.

[41:11] 50,

[41:12] Exactly. I beat you. Okay, okay. Listen, listen. This is not

[41:15] about who's been doing it the longest.

[41:20] 40 year overnight success,

[41:23] Exactly. Well, if you want to throw in the 40 years I've been

[41:25] doing everything in the film industry and everything, sure,

[41:30] you know, go back to 82 when I saw ET for the first time, and

[41:34] that's when I first started thinking about being a

[41:35] filmmaker. That was that's when I first started thinking about

[41:38] being a I don't know what I was thinking, but I was thinking

[41:41] movies then. But yes, you win. You win.

[41:46] It's no contest.

[41:47] Exactly, it is no contest. I can't win. But but that's just

[41:51] pointing the fact. It's like, oh yeah, overnight success thing.

[41:54] People don't see the the hours, the years of struggle and honing

[41:59] of their strength.

[42:00] And you just start. You start with what you got,

[42:02] And you go,

[42:03] And you go. You know that term bootstrapping. You know that's

[42:10] exactly what you you do. You have a passion,

[42:13] And you just do it,

[42:14] And you just do it. And you know somebody said, "How did you with

[42:18] all the judgments and stuff? Well, you know I had the

[42:22] commitment. I could not not do what I was doing.

[42:26] I know the feeling,

[42:28] And you know, and were people

[42:30] Stop it! shocking,

[42:33] But

[42:33] Who didn't approve? A lot. Who said the devil was coming

[42:39] through? Yes, I understand. Yes, yes.

[42:41] The minister across the street.

[42:43] Yes, and I always, anytime someone says that about

[42:45] Chandler, I go, you know what? The devil's a really bad devil

[42:48] because all they say is about love and hope and and you know

[42:51] one.

[42:52] They're not deviling right.

[42:53] They're not really deviling right. Satan's doing a bad job,

[42:56] kind of thing. But anyway, all right, let's bring in this

[42:58] devil. Not me. I mean Theo. Let's bring in Theo, and let's

[43:03] let's bring in some beautiful joy and energy with Theo.

[43:06] So it just takes a few seconds, okay? And I'll take a close my

[43:11] eyes and take a couple deep breaths and invite them in. Yes.

[43:14] All right, here we go. It is the beginning, is it not?

[43:20] Yes. Thank you, Theo, for being here. My first question to you

[43:25] is: I wanted to talk about what our past avatars, like Jesus,

[43:30] Buddha, and these kind of people were doing to awaken the souls

[43:37] of their time, and how that is mirroring what is happening now

[43:41] in a way of if it's the same souls that were there that are

[43:45] are doing it again here, how are those two connected in the the

[43:50] rising of our Christ consciousness or attaining

[43:53] Christ consciousness or Buddha consciousness?

[43:55] So the master teachers that have come before that walked in human

[44:01] bodies as the wayshorers, the way of a new way, planting the

[44:10] seeds within the minds. In those times, of what was to be birthed

[44:20] in the now. It was not in that third-dimensional reality

[44:26] possible, but the evolution of that consciousness spoken of

[44:34] then to be experienced now by all of them. They all had the

[44:39] same message of love, connectivity to one another, and

[44:45] empowering the self, but it could not be heard by the

[44:50] beliefs of not enough. The beliefs that one was lesser

[44:56] than, that one could not see. The God in themselves that they

[45:03] were a part of until now. This is the time that was spoken of

[45:12] then. Is that energy present? Of course it is. That is the time

[45:18] you're living in. It was spoken in the past of revelation. The

[45:24] revelation is that each and every one of you is the second

[45:29] coming of the Christos. The Christos energy is about the

[45:35] earth as we speak now in the fifth dimension, which is this

[45:39] awakened time, And so, the knowing of that, or the sense

[45:46] and feeling and a remembrance that many have of being in those

[45:51] times, of being taught that lesson, now to take with it and

[45:59] fully embrace.

[46:01] Theo, if you could speak or address the world leaders of

[46:04] today, what would you say to them?

[46:06] They are not unlike the world leaders of past in third

[46:11] dimensional reality, in that sense of control and

[46:19] manipulation, Greed, and coming from the old patterns of belief

[46:26] of not enough, and stemming from a belief inside each and every

[46:33] one of them that they're not enough. For to see a

[46:39] dictatorship, to see a bully, you can just know that they're

[46:46] acting out from their past and belief systems they adopted

[46:52] about themselves of not being worthy, and so the superiority

[46:58] that they Issue is only covering their feelings of inferiority

[47:09] about themselves, and that acting out to others as they do

[47:21] is trying to regain some type of control, so they will not be

[47:26] seen as they feel themselves to be in their truth.

[47:33] Are there any unseen forces that are helping or hindering

[47:38] humanity during this change?

[47:40] There are no unseen forces hindering. There are some who

[47:46] are seen that are here to act their role appropriately for

[47:54] change. As we speak of this time as high drama, the. the theater

[48:06] that is being expressed, that all these old structures, all

[48:11] these old belief systems surfacing, nothing is hidden.

[48:17] It's all on the surface to be changed. It's like the prigogene

[48:24] theory of the atom. For the atom to have a breakthrough to a

[48:29] different version of itself, there needed to be chaos. So the

[48:37] chaos is getting to a pitch, is it not, for a breakthrough to a

[48:43] higher version, and what does that mean? That each and every

[48:48] one of you will begin to realize the power within and accept it,

[48:56] and then use that in a creative force to build the new world

[49:01] that is being birthed now, in a different consciousness. The

[49:06] fifth dimension is a different vector of time, if you would.

[49:12] The third and fourth dimensional realities are these old patterns

[49:17] that are dissolving. These old foundations that do not work,

[49:23] but new are being built, just like new innovations that will

[49:27] continue to grow momentarily, if you would. Many speak of getting

[49:35] downloads of this and that; it's true. Visionaries vision the

[49:44] future. You're aware of many visionaries now that have

[49:49] created technology that you all use, whether you like it or not,

[49:59] and if it's not. Working, you become annoyed, and you've had

[50:04] it for a precious small amount of time. That is going to

[50:10] continue to bring forth this new world. Don't be afraid of it.

[50:19] Is there a hidden opportunity in the chaos that most people are

[50:23] missing.

[50:24] Of course, there is. It's to recognize who you are, not

[50:33] become part of the chaos, but as the observer, what can you use

[50:38] within you that becomes triggered by it as a tool of

[50:45] revelation on the inner for yourself, of where the beliefs

[50:50] about you must change. Rewrite the script. That's the

[50:55] integrative process that we speak of. If everyone in the

[51:01] world integrated, the the fragmented aspects of their soul

[51:08] that have been fractualized out of experience, situation,

[51:14] circumstances, where beliefs were created or adopted about

[51:19] the self of unworth. So when you're revealed what that time

[51:27] was, you can defrost that part of self frozen in that moment in

[51:32] time, and with love bring it forward into the wholeness of a

[51:36] being.

[51:38] Is there a question I should be asking that I'm Not,

[51:41] No. What we would say to you, because of your curiosity, you

[51:50] will continue to strive to ask, to know, and to be validated in

[51:58] that knowing. So as you are ready for the information and

[52:04] the knowing to be known, the question will come. It's not

[52:11] ours to give to ask, but yours to ask and ours to satisfy that

[52:18] curiosity.

[52:20] The current war that is being waged with Iran, with the United

[52:25] States and Iran, is having global impact in a way that

[52:30] we're still not able to see regarding energy, regarding

[52:34] commerce, a bunch of different things that we have yet to even

[52:38] see. What is what? What do first of all what do you see in the

[52:43] future of this like when is what's when is this going to end

[52:47] when is it going to fix what do you see happening with it and is

[52:52] there an energetic reasoning for this specific conflict?

[52:57] It's an outer expression of what's on the inner, and

[53:01] understand this: this is based in judgment, a better than

[53:05] lesser on judgment of each other, judgment of cultures,

[53:11] judgment of religion. It truly has nothing to do with the

[53:18] things you think it is. It's all about this since are better than

[53:23] and lesser than, and judgment of each other. If there is the

[53:28] realization of human experiences that you're all the same, if the

[53:34] pandemic did not address this for all of you, then these wars,

[53:40] these extreme judgments of one another will, as they are now,

[53:48] to ask the question, but it's really an inter, inner

[53:53] dimensional or inner personal process of letting go, loving

[53:59] each other, loving the self first, which seems a ridiculous

[54:05] statement, but that's the key. When you love yourselves enough,

[54:13] everything changes, because then you can love others as the self.

[54:19] You can love another and see them as yourself, because you

[54:25] are the same.

[54:26] Theo, I want to ask you about money or the concept of money.

[54:31] This is a big, big focus of a lot of people's lives, but it

[54:37] occurs to me that money doesn't truly exist. It is an agreement

[54:43] that we have with everybody else that this little piece of paper

[54:47] or these numbers on a screen have value. It's not like I'm

[54:51] giving you a goat and you're giving me a pig back. There's

[54:54] actual inherent value in that because you can do something

[54:56] with it. But the actual numbers on a screen or the paper in your

[55:00] pocket. Doesn't have, or even gold doesn't have any. Well,

[55:04] gold has some utilitarian things for it, but generally speaking,

[55:08] there is no value to it.

[55:10] It's true.

[55:11] So if that's the case, why can't we all make an agreement that

[55:17] everyone gets a bunch of numbers in their accounts and everybody

[55:20] has the same thing? I don't understand the concept because

[55:22] it's very complicated. There's wars over money, but it doesn't

[55:26] truly exist. There's nothing real there. So I'd love to hear

[55:30] your thoughts on that.

[55:31] So money has no energy in it, or worth in and of itself. It's

[55:36] what all of you give it.

[55:37] Right.

[55:38] It's really just an exchange for goods and services,

[55:43] energetically speaking, and everything is energy. So that is

[55:50] true. That power is given to money, and it truly has none.

[55:57] It's just a belief, and as we spoke earlier, beliefs can

[56:03] change, and it is dictated in whatever form that's used,

[56:11] whether it's coin or paper or digital. People give it the same

[56:20] Power, yes?

[56:22] Yeah. Cryptocurrency is just came online a decade ago, less

[56:27] than a decade ago.

[56:28] Yes,

[56:29] And now everyone gives a power, and there's value there. And I

[56:31] always wonder, like, that doesn't make any sense.

[56:33] It's not real.

[56:34] None of it is.

[56:36] No,

[56:36] None of it is. Are we heading towards a society like Gene

[56:42] Roddenberry from Star Trek actually said, because I, if I

[56:45] remember correctly, in those movies and shows, no one spoke

[56:49] of money. Everything was just there. The technology gave

[56:52] everybody access to pretty much almost everything, to a certain

[56:56] extent. And I might be mistaken. The only conflict was with other

[57:00] civilizations around the universe and things like that,

[57:03] Like other countries,

[57:04] Right! But it's just grown to a more universal aspect as opposed

[57:08] to a global.

[57:09] Yes.

[57:10] So we could actually grasp what he was trying to say. But are we

[57:14] heading towards that?

[57:15] You're already in it.

[57:17] We're getting there with AI and all of this.

[57:20] Yes.

[57:21] Is AI something we should be afraid of?

[57:23] No, it's only as good as the people that program it, and know

[57:29] that it's a useful tool, just like all your technology. As we

[57:34] spoke earlier, you get annoyed with the technology you have now

[57:39] when it's not working on your behalf properly, yes. AI will be

[57:44] the same. It's not perfect because who's the programmer?

[57:50] Many fear that AI itself would program. It's not going to do

[57:55] away with humans, and they're the ultimate, Ultimate

[58:02] technology, you see,

[58:07] And we're still trying to figure out our own technology.

[58:09] Correct.

[58:12] Are we the greatest reality show for the universe at this moment

[58:15] in time?

[58:15] We enjoy it.

[58:19] You, you're a subscriber. You Watch us, yes. From the point of

[58:24] view of, well, there's two things. From the point of view

[58:28] of others watching us from around the universe in the in

[58:31] this three dimensional, five dimensional, the material world.

[58:34] I assuming that we have um we're a pretty good show. But from

[58:38] your point of view, angelic, the other sides, other souls,

[58:43] watching what's going on right now. I got what? What is the

[58:47] feeling behind? Is there a feeling behind it? You know, how

[58:50] is it? How does it work for you guys?

[58:53] We're keen observers, but understand this: there's only

[58:58] love, and we see the evolution of consciousness that is being

[59:07] lived through you, by you, as you understand. We have no

[59:12] bodies. We know the human experience through you. In this

[59:18] keen observation, and here, as a window to your soul, in the

[59:27] sense of bringing forth the opportunity for you to see

[59:32] yourselves as we see you, in that solid state of

[59:36] unconditional love,

[59:39] Is it is it the equivalent of a parent looking at a child,

[59:42] Yes,

[59:42] And knowing what that child is capable of, but they don't

[59:45] believe it themselves,

[59:47] And have to live into it, to the awareness of that within

[59:52] themselves, yes.

[59:55] Theo, what is what does it look like for us in the next five to

[59:58] 10 years? Because so many people are. Fearful and afraid of where

[1:00:02] the world is going, and all of this, can you give us some

[1:00:06] insight to where we're going to be in the next 510, 20 years

[1:00:09] from now?

[1:00:10] Don't think about it. What we mean by that, you're not living.

[1:00:16] If you're worrying about that many years ahead, you're not in

[1:00:19] the present existence of your life, and worrying is praying

[1:00:24] for what you don't want. And if you're too far into the past in

[1:00:31] regret, you're not living the moment either. So, what is

[1:00:38] happening to you in the present? How far have you come? Look how

[1:00:43] you've grown. Embrace with gratitude and be proud of

[1:00:47] yourselves of the movement that is occurring. Know that you are

[1:00:52] creating the five years futuristically and the 10 years.

[1:00:56] You are the creator. So, what do you want in your five years or

[1:01:02] your 10 years? What do you envision for you? Yes, the world

[1:01:09] is evolving in a reflection of that.

[1:01:13] Can you explain to people the concept of our multiple

[1:01:17] timelines that we are living in that we can choose? I've been

[1:01:21] told that I can choose a timeline that is much more

[1:01:25] prosperous, prosperous, and and beautiful and energetic, as

[1:01:30] opposed to the more chaotic timelines. And I'm not talking

[1:01:32] about the multiverse or anything like that. I'm talking about

[1:01:35] just within this reality how I can choose to live. Because

[1:01:39] right now, as we sit, Sheila and I are in a room that's fairly

[1:01:43] safe. There's not bombs going off around us. We are living a

[1:01:47] very different reality than people in a war zone right now.

[1:01:51] How can we navigate those timeline shifts? Like, can you

[1:01:54] explain it in a way that we can understand?

[1:01:58] We all try.

[1:02:00] Thank you.

[1:02:01] So, it's all a matter of choice and beliefs. If you believe that

[1:02:15] you can be in that timeline of abundance that you are speaking

[1:02:20] about in a comfortable life, and you can let it in. You will have

[1:02:26] that. The resistance that is felt is a belief that you're not

[1:02:31] worthy of the life you'd like to live, or would love to live. And

[1:02:36] so you stay stuck or mired in those beliefs, and beliefs can

[1:02:42] be changed. The situation, circumstances, and conditions

[1:02:48] where those beliefs were created or adopted, out of the

[1:02:54] circumstance that one may feel victimized by, with the change

[1:03:00] of thought to perceive the gifts and blessings that has grown you

[1:03:04] to be the person you are today, rather than being the victim of

[1:03:09] circumstance. How's it grown you? Who are you today because

[1:03:14] of it? As you become familiar with the growth cycles, you

[1:03:19] begin to perceive that you can embrace opportunities and change

[1:03:25] and growth, and not fear them, and resistance is fear-based,

[1:03:31] isn't it? What if something bad will happen? Well, when you

[1:03:38] began and you lived in caves, that served a purpose, didn't

[1:03:44] it?

[1:03:45] Because if you came out the cave door entry, there could be a

[1:03:51] tiger there to eat you. Yes, that's not the case today,

[1:03:58] typically. But there's still that belief: something bad will

[1:04:03] happen. The tiger's there to eat me, and so what if something bad

[1:04:08] will happen has been prominent in thoughts. Instead of what if

[1:04:14] something good will happen, it's a change of perception, you see,

[1:04:18] a change of belief and thought of deservability that the good

[1:04:23] would happen for you, and you have the creative power to do

[1:04:29] so. So look for the evidence where you knew something great

[1:04:34] was going to happen. You didn't know how, but you just knew it,

[1:04:41] and you moved in the direction of that outcome, and it all

[1:04:45] worked out. You all have evidence in your life, large or

[1:04:50] small, that that's been true. Build that evidence. Trust that

[1:04:56] knowing,

[1:04:57] Theo. For someone who's watching this right now and is.

[1:05:00] Struggling with incorporating a lot of these ideas that you're

[1:05:05] speaking of right now, that conflict with their own

[1:05:08] programming that they have been dealt with, or the story that

[1:05:11] they have told themselves and agreed to as a structure for

[1:05:15] their own existence and reality. What advice do you have for them

[1:05:19] on how to deal with that conflict within them to figure

[1:05:22] out if like you're basically just deconstructing a story or a

[1:05:26] foundational belief system to open yourself up to a new one,

[1:05:31] and that's a very scary place to be for most people.

[1:05:33] Some will, and some won't.

[1:05:35] Okay,

[1:05:36] When things become intolerable enough, people change.

[1:05:41] Is that what we're doing right now in the world?

[1:05:43] Yes, individually and collectively, but also there are

[1:05:49] those that seek that and know there's something better, and

[1:05:54] are willing to change those beliefs to see there could be

[1:06:01] the better. However, the ones that stay in the victimized

[1:06:07] story, some may stay in that story for a lifetime, because

[1:06:15] they're getting much more out of being there than they feel they

[1:06:22] would by changing. The alternative of changing that

[1:06:29] belief system is far more frightening than being in it

[1:06:38] Until it gets unbearable.

[1:06:40] Until it's intolerable, yes, but some never think it's

[1:06:45] intolerable because of the benefits they feel they're

[1:06:48] getting from it.

[1:06:49] It's like being in a bad relationship.

[1:06:52] Yes,

[1:06:52] Better the devil you know than the devil you don't.

[1:06:54] Essentially,

[1:06:55] Familiar.

[1:06:57] Familiar, Theo. And finally, do you have any parting messages

[1:07:02] that the audience that's listening right now, no matter

[1:07:05] what time they're listening to this and what time of history,

[1:07:08] need to hear?

[1:07:10] If you could see yourselves as we see you, there would be no

[1:07:14] discontent, and you would move in the direction of this shift

[1:07:19] and change that is now to realize the unconditional love

[1:07:25] of self. It will change the trajectory of your lives.

[1:07:31] Before we go, Theo, one other question: How can we learn to

[1:07:34] love ourselves more?

[1:07:36] Knowing where the beliefs of not being lovable began in changing

[1:07:43] that belief, and you have the ability within and the power of

[1:07:49] that for the greater fears that have developed those belief

[1:07:54] systems-the fear of abandonment, shame. These beliefs can change

[1:08:03] and not hold power over you by understanding where they've come

[1:08:09] from and the willingness to see the gifts and blessings of the

[1:08:14] beliefs that have grown you and changing those with love.

[1:08:21] Theo, thank you so much for being here, and I appreciate

[1:08:23] everything that you've been doing with Sheila for the last

[1:08:26] 50 odd years.

[1:08:27] We are appreciative of the opportunity to serve.

[1:08:31] Thank you.

[1:08:31] God's love unto you. Good day.

[1:08:36] And she's back. How are you, little loopy still?

[1:08:42] Just for a minute,

[1:08:44] shouldn't have you drive heavy machinery at the moment. No,

[1:08:50] that was a powerful conversation. You remember, and

[1:08:52] for people who don't know, you remember kind of right.

[1:08:56] It's hazy, dreamlike. Yeah, I don't remember everything, but

[1:09:00] if if you would talk to me about it, would be like, oh, yeah, I

[1:09:04] remember, I know that.

[1:09:05] Yeah,

[1:09:06] It's more those little pieces click in.

[1:09:10] Yeah, I started off with the Jesus conversation.

[1:09:12] Oh yeah,

[1:09:13] Yeah, it was a Jesus. I love like, oh yeah, what did I say?

[1:09:16] What did they say? I have to watch. I have to listen. No, it

[1:09:19] was about talking about Christ consciousness, the Christo

[1:09:23] consciousness, and what they were going through there, and

[1:09:25] how it mirrors what we're going through now. Obviously, in a

[1:09:28] very different capacity, but the seeds were there, and then they

[1:09:33] talked about the avatars and the masters who walked prior and

[1:09:36] what they're here to do, and all of that, and what's happening

[1:09:40] now is a mirror at a much larger scale.

[1:09:44] Oh yeah,

[1:09:45] Much larger scale.

[1:09:46] Well, we can, you know, if we look at history, you know, we

[1:09:51] can see the repetition of all of that going on.

[1:09:56] From God, you just-I'm a history buff, so I love studying.

[1:10:01] Histories and and different figures, religious and military

[1:10:05] and civilizations and like Rome and all that stuff. I love

[1:10:08] studying all of that kind of stuff, and it's it's fascinating

[1:10:12] to watch the human drama unfold again and again in very very

[1:10:17] similar ways, very similar ways. But the funny thing is that

[1:10:21] throughout history, no matter what time they're in, they think

[1:10:24] they got to figure it out.

[1:10:26] Oh yeah,

[1:10:27] And they think this will never end. The good times will always

[1:10:30] roll. Rome will never fall. Rome will never fall.

[1:10:35] Yeah,

[1:10:36] And then then you start thinking like, well, the U.S. could never

[1:10:40] fall, right? I'm sure Russia thought that up until 1991. Up

[1:10:47] until 1991, you know, I'm not saying that the U.S. I think all

[1:10:51] the great empires, British Empire, French, Spanish,

[1:10:56] Portuguese, Dutch, all those empires they ran the world for a

[1:11:00] minute. All of them, they're not gone. They're just different

[1:11:05] now.

[1:11:06] They're very different,

[1:11:07] Very different. But they're still they're still powerful,

[1:11:10] and they can can be some of them still have a lot of power within

[1:11:15] them. But they're not what they were.

[1:11:17] But you know, really, the power is the people.

[1:11:20] Always is,

[1:11:22] And that's what we're bearing witness to: is the people not

[1:11:26] cowering to the leaders? They're saying no. We're not doing this

[1:11:32] anymore.

[1:11:33] But they're also, I think, more informed.

[1:11:36] Yeah,

[1:11:37] Than we've ever been.

[1:11:38] Definitely,

[1:11:38] As a as a species, because not only are we more illiterate, but

[1:11:43] there's so much more. We have every piece of information at

[1:11:47] our disposal now.

[1:11:48] That's why so many people are trying to manipulate it.

[1:11:51] You read my mind. Yeah. Yeah. These algorithms who are

[1:11:54] throwing people down rabbit holes, echo chambers of they

[1:11:59] believe that this is what the world thinks. You know, if they

[1:12:02] watch a certain network, a network, or a news organization,

[1:12:05] whether what side you're watching, you think that's just

[1:12:08] the way everyone is, and everybody on the other side must

[1:12:10] be evil. It's not that case. That's not the way human. You

[1:12:14] know,

[1:12:14] Theo tells all of us that we have a truth barometer inside of

[1:12:23] us, and the critical thinking, the asking, "Is that true? is so

[1:12:29] necessary right now. Instead of to your word going down the

[1:12:33] rabbit hole, it's just saying, "Go on the inner. Your soul

[1:12:37] knows what truth is. We know. I, if I speak truth to you, I get a

[1:12:45] physical, visceral experience of that. Or if you speak truth to

[1:12:51] me, I get the same visceral feeling. I get a chill up my

[1:12:55] spine, or my the hair on my arm stands up. But you know,

[1:13:01] goosebumps, as people say. We call them God bumps, but we

[1:13:05] got-that's true. We all have that. It's been proven over our

[1:13:11] lifetimes.

[1:13:12] Have you ever done the muscle test for truth and and and a

[1:13:16] lie? It's fascinating. You put your arm out.

[1:13:20] Yeah.

[1:13:20] You say the truth will stand strong. If you lie, you can push

[1:13:24] it down with one finger. I've done that multiple times.

[1:13:27] Well, your body, your body is your receiver. Your body knows,

[1:13:32] and it's the same thing. Your body will tell you.

[1:13:35] Yeah, it's almost like anything. Like when you meet somebody, and

[1:13:38] if you're in tuned, if they're lying to you, you can go.

[1:13:43] Yeah,

[1:13:43] You feel something's off. You can say you can just sense it,

[1:13:48] but

[1:13:48] But somehow we've lost that critical thinking, that critical

[1:13:51] feeling, and just give our power away to somebody else's opinion.

[1:13:57] And I think that's what's going to be changing now because it's

[1:14:01] gotten so crazy.

[1:14:02] I'm really curious to see what 50 years from now, what that

[1:14:10] generation is going to look back on this one, and like you know,

[1:14:15] my generation has no proof that of anything we did in the 80s

[1:14:19] and the 90s. There is no internet. There is barely any

[1:14:22] photos. Your generation, even worse, like less than anything.

[1:14:28] So, but this generation, everything is out there.

[1:14:31] Everything is being filmed, all of it, all the time, and it's

[1:14:35] posted for public consumption. So I'm curious what the future

[1:14:39] will think of this time period, and what that generate when that

[1:14:43] generation, when the generation, the kids today are your age, and

[1:14:48] they're looking back, and their grandkids are looking at them

[1:14:51] partying, and doing all that kind of stuff, and being a fool

[1:14:55] or doing a TikTok dance, or and they'll go, "Why did you do

[1:14:59] that?

[1:15:00] Well. The same thing with what did you do to to help change

[1:15:06] things? You know, my husband

[1:15:08] dance didn't help.

[1:15:10] No, no, but you know, to your point of going down rabbit holes

[1:15:14] and and believing things in conspiratorial ways, and you

[1:15:22] know when all this chaos was happening, grandchildren going.

[1:15:27] Well, where were you? What did you do? I mean, because they'll

[1:15:31] ask.

[1:15:31] Oh, my kids already asked. Like, and when certain things

[1:15:35] happened, and like, were you there at 911? Like, what were

[1:15:37] you doing? And during oh yeah, all that kind of. Yeah, they

[1:15:40] asked because you were alive back then, you know, and you're

[1:15:43] like, "Oh yeah, I was I was doing this or I was doing that.

[1:15:45] And like when the Challenger, you know, because of all the

[1:15:49] spaceship that just went to the moon and everything, where were

[1:15:52] you when the Challenger? I'm like, "I was in sixth grade. I

[1:15:54] was in the library, and

[1:15:55] I was in front of the TV watching it. It was horrific.

[1:15:58] Yeah, and I was in sixth grade. I'll never forget it. I was

[1:16:01] rolled into the library, sixth grade.

[1:16:03] It's those things, you those monumental things. I mean, I

[1:16:06] remember when John Kennedy was shot. I saw it on TV.

[1:16:10] I remember where I was when Diana died. That was another

[1:16:13] cultural moment. The entire world stopped.

[1:16:15] So those big historical things we have records of that we, I

[1:16:22] mean, we only had stories of

[1:16:24] Of Christ and Alexander the Great and Genghis Khan and

[1:16:28] stuff.

[1:16:28] Yeah, but to your point, now everything's recorded.

[1:16:31] Yeah, we. I mean, Kennedy. We saw there's obviously footage of

[1:16:35] that. Yeah, you know.

[1:16:37] Yeah, and that began back then.

[1:16:38] Really? Yeah. Yeah,

[1:16:39] In its infancy,

[1:16:42] It started to, yeah. It started to. It's yeah. It's it's it's

[1:16:45] pretty fascinating this whole journey. But you said something

[1:16:48] about conspiracy theories, which I find fascinating. Is that you

[1:16:53] know, I as a storyteller, I like a good conspiracy theory. I

[1:16:57] think they're fantastic, like wonderful to like watch and

[1:16:59] listen to and think about. But the crazy thing is, a lot of

[1:17:03] things that were conspiracy theories have become true and

[1:17:07] have come out, which is like wow. I in all

[1:17:12] That's where the truth barometer is important,

[1:17:15] Right! Because you like yeah, you can't now automatic. Well,

[1:17:18] not all conspiracy theories. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no,

[1:17:20] no, no, no. But there are things that were talked about. They're

[1:17:23] like, oh yeah, this or that, and you know, I won't say the names,

[1:17:27] but there's things that have been going on in the news that,

[1:17:29] like, I can't believe that that's really it was true.

[1:17:33] Well, I had that my own experience with Watergate,

[1:17:36] Right! Perfect example.

[1:17:38] You know, if I told people about that,

[1:17:40] You would have been locked up.

[1:17:41] That yeah, but if I'd done it now, would become a

[1:17:45] conspiratorial.

[1:17:47] Oh yeah, you would have a YouTube channel.

[1:17:51] Yeah, but you know, it it was true.

[1:17:53] Yeah, it's pretty fascinating.

[1:17:55] But it was inconceivable

[1:17:58] Back then.

[1:17:59] In my mind, you know, I was young. I was I was in my 20s,

[1:18:04] and it was, you know, no, the president wouldn't do that. You

[1:18:10] know, I just was naive. Also,

[1:18:14] Listen when I when I started this show, and Connie, my

[1:18:17] spiritual teacher, told me what was. She told me this. She told

[1:18:21] me you you would have millions of people who are waiting and

[1:18:24] watching you, and I'm like you're out of your. I couldn't

[1:18:28] grasp grasp it, and now I sit here, and I'm like wow that. But

[1:18:33] I understand that because that's not Watergate, but within my own

[1:18:37] life.

[1:18:38] Well, with Theo telling me that I'd be here. You were like, get

[1:18:43] out of here. Who? Who? What? Alex Ferrari? Are you sure?

[1:18:50] I don't think he said my name, but I get that. Like on this

[1:18:53] date and this time, this is when you're going to meet him. He's

[1:18:55] going to have this thing. It wasn't that, but you said in

[1:18:57] general, yeah, you would be doing this. So people understand

[1:19:01] that Theo's like going. You're going to go on this show on this

[1:19:03] date and this time. That's not the way Theo works.

[1:19:05] I was joking.

[1:19:08] I know. No, but some people will take it seriously.

[1:19:11] I know they will. I know them. You know, everybody thinks

[1:19:13] Theo's so serious. I've always thought they were really funny

[1:19:17] because it's a dry humor.

[1:19:19] They're British,

[1:19:22] But you know what they told us and our team one day when we

[1:19:30] were asking them, could you lighten it up a little bit? You

[1:19:33] know,

[1:19:34] Pretty intense.

[1:19:35] And they said we're working on our humor, and so now sometimes

[1:19:39] they'll go, they'll make a statement and they'll go, "That

[1:19:42] was humorous.

[1:19:49] It's like it just takes me back to that scene in Borat when he's

[1:19:53] going to the comedy teacher to teach him what comedy is. If

[1:19:57] you're trying to teach what comedy is. Probably are not

[1:20:01] funny. You can learn techniques. You can learn a couple things,

[1:20:05] but structure of a joke, things like that. But funny comes.

[1:20:09] I know. They're getting better at it.

[1:20:12] No, I find them interesting. They have a. They when I speak

[1:20:15] to them, and and we'll talk about what we we've been doing

[1:20:18] the last days while you've been here. I've been speaking a lot

[1:20:22] to Theo lately, and I find that they they have this underlining

[1:20:29] energy to them. There is a humor to it, but you've got to be

[1:20:32] really fine too. You got to listen to it very carefully. But

[1:20:37] like even in our conversation with them in this episode today,

[1:20:40] they they just are. There's a. There was a slight not snark,

[1:20:45] but there was a nice little lovely lightning. I was like,

[1:20:49] well, yes, I know that. Yeah, that energy there. So it's not

[1:20:53] so stoic as as they were.

[1:20:55] Marcus asked them one time. Well, how do you say us? What do

[1:20:59] you think of us? Do you do you? Yeah, and they. say we think

[1:21:05] you're very humorous or something like that. They they

[1:21:08] they view us like, ah, here they go again.

[1:21:12] Well, we were joking earlier, and and I asked I asked Theo

[1:21:16] about what is the universe. We like the best reality show in

[1:21:20] the universe, and they're like, "Yes, we we are great observers

[1:21:24] of yours. And then I joked, and like I didn't say then, but we

[1:21:28] spoke about it too. It's like, "Well, yeah, with the Real

[1:21:29] Housewives of Earth, we're the most dramatic show on the in the

[1:21:34] universe at the moment, and everyone we're top rated. I

[1:21:37] mean, every everybody's watching us.

[1:21:39] But who's watching?

[1:21:40] Ah, that's the question, but that's for another show, another

[1:21:43] time.

[1:21:45] Maybe that's a Bashar.

[1:21:47] That is a definitely a Daryl Bashar question is to ask that

[1:21:50] because he will definitely answer no question. So you've

[1:21:54] been here for a few days now with us, and we've been working

[1:21:57] on this amazing mastery course together called the Awakening

[1:22:02] Code, where Theo is the basically Theo is the teacher. I

[1:22:07] mean, you come in and you give some of your insights, but Theo

[1:22:10] just comes in and really organized way to discuss what is

[1:22:16] happening, how we can incorporate into our lives,

[1:22:19] explaining different things about awakening, about this

[1:22:23] fifth dimension that he's been talking, they've been talking

[1:22:26] about for years. Can you talk a little bit about the course from

[1:22:30] your perspective and what we've been doing together, and how

[1:22:32] important it truly is right now for people?

[1:22:36] You know, it's we all want to know how to. How do we make

[1:22:40] these changes? And Theo kind of lays it out how we individually

[1:22:45] can apply their teachings, can apply the process, if you would,

[1:22:53] to to make our own changes, because as they have told us,

[1:23:01] that the chaos in the world is only a reflection of the chaos

[1:23:05] within us. That if we come into that soul centeredness, a

[1:23:11] centered in soulness, that we'll have peace on the planet, peace

[1:23:17] within, peace without. So they give us a how to.

[1:23:21] It is very powerful.

[1:23:22] Yeah,

[1:23:23] It's very very powerful. And being in the room with that much

[1:23:27] Theo for that long was draining for me.

[1:23:32] Got hot, didn't it?

[1:23:34] so there's that. But but generally, though, it was. I

[1:23:39] have not been with Theo. I've never sat in a room with Theo

[1:23:42] for eight hours, and he's channeling. Are they channeling

[1:23:46] most of the time? You're just like, yeah, whatever. You know,

[1:23:49] you're good because you've been doing this for a minute. But I

[1:23:51] started to get towards the end. I was just like, why am I so

[1:23:55] tired?

[1:23:56] I know that you know when we do our our teachings and our

[1:24:00] mentorships, and we'll do a two-day or three-day retreat.

[1:24:05] People are just wiped;

[1:24:06] They're fried, but they don't realize it till the end. Right?

[1:24:09] You know, like the end of the day, it's like,

[1:24:12] God, I'm exhausted. Why am I so tired?

[1:24:15] Self-care, but because you're taking in not the energy, but

[1:24:20] you're also learning, and your mind is working the whole time.

[1:24:24] You're burning a lot of calories.

[1:24:26] Ah, it's a good workout. Yeah, it's a good workout. But but

[1:24:29] people, it's so settled. People don't realize it. It's a child

[1:24:32] of a sudden it hits you.

[1:24:34] It's that's also so. In this course, though, in this mastery

[1:24:37] course, this is not just information. It's a transmission

[1:24:40] of energy.

[1:24:41] Yes, that comes that comes through.

[1:24:44] People have felt it. I felt it on certain episodes of shows,

[1:24:49] like even on Zoom. I felt transmissions hitting me, and

[1:24:53] you could just see me literally just like. And then the second

[1:24:56] they stop, I like, what the hell is happening? So it does happen

[1:24:59] through technology.

[1:25:01] Oh, absolutely! We do, you know, most of our teaching. I would

[1:25:06] say probably 99% on Zoom because it's global. We have a global

[1:25:11] community,

[1:25:12] And they feel it,

[1:25:12] And they absolutely feel it.

[1:25:15] And we also put together as a nice little treat for everybody

[1:25:19] a free masterclass called the New Human Blueprint that talks a

[1:25:23] lot about what we discussed and what we teach in. When I say we,

[1:25:28] you teach and Theo teach in in the in the Awakening Code as

[1:25:32] well. If people want to check that out, it's in the link

[1:25:35] below. There should be a link coming up on the screen right

[1:25:38] now, but there's also a link in the description below as well,

[1:25:42] if you guys want to check that out, and it's wonderful. That

[1:25:44] was a wonderful experience doing that masterclass with you and

[1:25:47] Theo's in there as well, dropping knowledge bombs left

[1:25:51] and right.

[1:25:54] Yeah, now, that's what we're here to do, right?

[1:25:55] So I'm going to ask you a couple questions before we leave,

[1:25:59] Sheila. What gives you genuine hope about where humanity is

[1:26:02] heading,

[1:26:03] Seeing the changes that everybody's making, you know,

[1:26:06] just bearing witness to the opening that people are having.

[1:26:11] It's just such evidence of what I was told, and where we're

[1:26:18] going, and it's it's an amazing experience of change, and that

[1:26:27] we're all a part of. And I just, like I say, I'm really

[1:26:31] optimistic about where we're going. And if we can just be

[1:26:39] present in the moments of this experience, we can get

[1:26:43] exhilarated by it. I think that when we get into fear, we get

[1:26:48] into the future too far. That what if something bad's going to

[1:26:52] happen? Well, we're creating that if we keep that thought.

[1:26:57] And so, it's I try to stay in the mindset of something great's

[1:27:03] happening right now, and look for that. I do. I look for that.

[1:27:08] Where can people find out more about you and the amazing work

[1:27:10] you're doing?

[1:27:12] They can go to asktheo.com. We have everything there.

[1:27:16] Yeah, you have some amazing courses and programs and

[1:27:19] everything.

[1:27:20] We also, if if people go there and they sign up to our mail

[1:27:25] list, we have a gift for them. We have a Theo guided meditation

[1:27:31] that they will enjoy, and they're very powerful. We do

[1:27:35] guided meditations with Theo, and they're very specific to the

[1:27:41] topic of the meditation and the words that they use, and it just

[1:27:46] changes you profoundly.

[1:27:48] That's beautiful. And finally, last question: If someone is

[1:27:53] listening right now and is feeling lost, what would Theo

[1:27:55] say to them?

[1:27:57] Feeling lost is just a sense of not feeling your own power. So

[1:28:06] it's not the adult that's lost. It's a little aspect of the self

[1:28:12] that has that feeling of not being seen, heard, or loved. Who

[1:28:16] is that inside of you that the adult can love, let them know

[1:28:23] that they're loved, desired, and they're not alone. That you, the

[1:28:29] adult, is there with them, and you're doing life together.

[1:28:33] Beautifully said, Sheila. It's always a pleasure talking to

[1:28:36] you. Thank you so much for coming down to Next Level Soul

[1:28:39] Studios. Thank you for collaborating with us on the

[1:28:43] mastery course that we put together, and I hope that helps

[1:28:45] a lot of people as well as this conversation around the world.

[1:28:48] So I appreciate you and everything you're doing to

[1:28:50] awaken the planet.

[1:28:51] Thank you, and I appreciate you that you're having these moments

[1:28:55] and these teachers come in, and this is all a part of our going

[1:29:01] to the next level.

[1:29:03] You owe me 15 cents for that. Thank you, my dear. Appreciate

[1:29:08] you.

[1:29:08] You're welcome.

[1:29:10] What if the world isn't falling apart, but evolving into

[1:29:13] something we're only beginning to understand? For years, we'd

[1:29:19] been taught to live inside limitation, linear time, fixed

[1:29:23] outcomes, playing small because it felt safe. But something is

[1:29:27] changing, and more importantly, you're changing. In this next

[1:29:34] level soul mastery course, Theo and I guide you into what it

[1:29:37] truly means to step into a new reality-not as an idea, but as a

[1:29:42] lived experience. You'll start to see how your beliefs,

[1:29:48] especially the quiet unconscious ones, have been shaping

[1:29:51] everything: your relationships, your health, your sense of

[1:29:55] purpose. And once you see it, it begins to change. Then something

[1:30:01] clicks. You stop asking, "What am I supposed to do with my

[1:30:04] life? and realize it's been unfolding through you this

[1:30:08] entire time. You see the patterns. You understand the

[1:30:11] why. And from that moment, everything shifts. You're not

[1:30:15] searching for your path anymore. You're choosing it. My name is

[1:30:19] Sheila Gillette, and this is Next Level Soul Mastery.

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In the episode, Gillette relays THEO's view that the chaos in the world reflects the dissolution of old patterns and an inner consciousness shift, rather than offering a policy-level explanation of the conflict. The visible portion of the conversation frames the outer world as a mirror of what is happening inside people. Viewers should treat that as a spiritual interpretation, not a geopolitical analysis.
Gillette describes THEO as a collective of twelve archangels she has channeled for more than five decades. In the episode she says THEO has been speaking about the current time and the consciousness shift for that entire period. Her work began in 1969 after a near-death experience, and THEO came through in 1971.
Gillette says that her automatic writing produced notebooks full of Watergate information roughly two years before the story surfaced publicly. She reports that around sixteen years later she met John Ehrlichman in Santa Fe, who she says corroborated what she had received. These are her own accounts and are not independently verified in the episode.
In Gillette's account, the third dimension is physical reality, the fourth is spiritual awakening, and the fifth is a different vector of time in which old fear-based patterns dissolve. She says THEO held that the alignment to the fifth dimension was locked in by 2012. The shift is described as collective and as starting within each individual.
Gillette says that in her early years she was called a direct voice transmedium, and that scientists used the term channelers to describe her process. She notes that the word channeling only became the common terminology in the 1980s. She places Jane Roberts and Edgar Cayce within the same earlier lineage of trance-based transmission.
Gillette presents the soul integrative process as THEO's method for bringing about change within a person so that they can cultivate unconditional love of self. She connects that inner work to peace in the wider world. The episode does not give a detailed step-by-step description of the process.
The episode is useful for readers new to channeled teachings because it covers the origin story, the Watergate account, the history of the term channeling, and the fifth-dimension framework in plain language. It runs about an hour and a half and includes an open question-and-answer style exchange with the host. Beginners should weigh the personal claims with their own discernment.

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Jai Uttal recalls the grief that followed Neem Karoli Baba's sudden departure, and the dawn at Sarnath when a single remembered voice said "…

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