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Interdependent Co-Arising: The Buddha's Web of Causes

Sarah Sati
Sarah Sati
Mar 31, 2022
10 min de lecture

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In the final session of Sarah Sati's first BookClub series, recorded live on Insight Timer, Sati reads chapters 27 and 28 of Thich Nhat Hanh's The Heart of the Buddha's Teaching and closes a months-long, chapter-by-chapter reading. The two chapters take up pratityasamutpada, usually rendered as interdependent co-arising: the teaching that nothing arises on its own, that every cause is also an effect, and that a single flower already contains the sun, the soil, and the gardener. Sati treats it as the foundation of Buddhist study and then turns the idea back on the listener, arguing that if everything is made of everything else, awakening cannot be something delivered from outside. What follows walks through the ideas she brings to the room, the scholastic lists that grew out of them, and why she calls chapter 27 the most demanding chapter in the book.

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What does a final session sound like when the reader has been moving slowly through a long book?

The room opens with relief. Sati has been at this for a while, and she says so plainly: "I made it. We made it." She admits the book was longer than she expected and that she has often read too fast, a consequence, she says, of "being my own self and the kind of reader that I am." Then she asks listeners to let go of striving: lie down, sit, or walk in nature, and let the ears stay open. She suggests generating the thought that you are here now for the benefit of other beings, because, as she puts it, "we are linked to every other being on this planet."

That framing matters for everything that follows. The reading is not presented as a lecture to be mastered. It is presented as something to be heard in the body. (0:00 and 4:03 in the recording are the opening and closing of the session's framing; the core reading begins once she moves into chapter 27.)

Sati also makes a practical announcement that many long-form learners will recognize. There will be no more homework. Earlier assignments, she says, were a way of "being with the teachings," and she encourages listeners to return to one practice and stay with it "for months at a time" if it serves them. For a series built on assignments, that is an unusually generous exit.

Why is interdependent co-arising so hard to hold?

Start with the word itself. Thich Nhat Hanh's text, as Sati reads it, notes that pratityasamutpada literally means something like "dependent co-arising," and that the phrase is often shortened to "cause and effect." Sati argues that the shorthand is misleading. In everyday thinking, a cause comes first, produces one effect, and sits apart from it. Interdependent co-arising dissolves that picture. Cause and effect arise together, and every outcome is the product of many conditions at once.

The book's chosen illustration is the egg and the chicken. Neither precedes the other in any final sense. Each depends on the other, and the question of which came first loses its footing. Thich Nhat Hanh, as read aloud by Sati, puts the principle in its most compressed Buddhist form: "This is because that is; this is not because that is not; this comes to be because that comes to be; this ceases to be because that ceases to be." Sati notes these sentences recur hundreds of times across the northern and southern transmissions of the discourses, and calls them "the Buddhist genesis." She then adds a line of her own, one that reads like a compact summary of the whole chapter: "This is like this because that is like that."

The chapter's emotional stake is in its scale. Sati reads that interdependent co-arising "goes beyond our concepts of space and time." The Chinese character for cause, she notes, contains the character for great inside a rectangle: cause is great, yet at the same time limited. That paradox, a single condition that is both vast and bounded, is what makes the teaching hard to file away as an idea.

Can a table really explain the whole cosmos?

The book's central example is a wooden table, and it is worth following the logic as Sati presents it (around the 6:50 mark of the recording). A table needs wood. But wood needs a forest, sunshine, and rain. A carpenter is needed, and the carpenter needs parents, breakfast, and fresh air. Each of those conditions has its own conditions. Follow the chain and, the chapter says, "nothing has been left out." Everything in the cosmos has come together to produce the table.

From there the text makes its most provocative move: looking deeply at the sunshine, the leaves, and the clouds, you can see the table, and in the table you can see the whole. "The one can be seen in the all and the all can be seen in the one," the reading says. Two further points follow. No single cause is ever enough, and no cause is only a cause. Every effect must also be the cause of something else. The chain has no first link and no final one.

This is the idea Sati returns to in her own commentary. In the episode description she writes that if you want to learn one thing about Buddhism, you should "study the lack of separateness of all things you meet." Her example is a chain of dependence that begins with the sun, the soil, the gardener, the rain, and the seed, then runs through the flower, the pollen, the bee, and finally to the question of who will propagate the planet. "Without the number one, there cannot be the number two," she writes. The point is not poetic decoration. It is a method: trace one thing and you find the whole web on the other side of it.

How did Buddhist schools turn one sentence into 24 conditions?

After the Buddha's death, the reading explains, schools began analyzing interdependent co-arising more precisely. The Theravada commentator Buddhaghosa, in the Visuddhimagga (the Path of Purification), listed 24 kinds of conditions, the necessary and sufficient factors for something to arise. Among them are root cause, object, predominance, priority, continuity, mutuality, support, decisive support, pre-nascence, post-nascence, repetition, karma, karma result, nutriment, faculty, jhana, path, association, dissociation, presence, absence, disappearance, and non-disappearance. Sati reads the list without dwelling on each item. Its purpose is to show how far a single sentence could be stretched by careful, almost forensic thinking.

The Sarvastivada school took a different route. It described four kinds of conditions and six kinds of causes, and this analysis later became part of the teachings of the Vaibhashika school of Buddhist psychology. The reading draws attention to the first condition in that scheme, the cause condition, which is compared to a seed: just as the seed is the cause of the flower, the cause condition is the root from which something grows. Sati's reading makes clear that these lists were not bureaucratic exercises. Each one was an attempt to hold a living insight steady long enough to examine it.

What comes through is the reader's own posture. Sati is not asking listeners to memorize 24 items. She is showing that the same insight can be approached as philosophy, as psychology, and as lived practice, and that the schools each chose their tools differently.

Why does Sati call chapter 27 the most challenging?

She is direct about it. Chapter 27, she says, is "in my opinion the most challenging chapter to get through," and she frames the reading as a deliberately slow entry into it. The difficulty is not in the vocabulary. It is in the dismantling of the habit of thinking in sequence. Ordinary experience organizes the world into before and after, here and there, self and other. Interdependent co-arising asks the mind to see the same events as a single web.

Sati's commentary pushes this point hardest. "We must look past the idea of before and after to see the web of life," she writes. "When we are witness to experience as a web, ignorance has no more footing." That claim is bold, and she does not soften it. She places the teaching at the center of Buddhist insight, suggesting that a student who grasps this one principle deeply has, in an important sense, grasped much of the rest.

The chapter also makes an ethical point that runs quietly underneath the metaphysics. If the table is made of the forest, the sun, and the carpenter's breakfast, then no one's achievement is wholly their own. The web is shared. That reframing sets up the work of the final chapter.

What does "You are the Buddha" mean in chapter 28?

Chapter 28, which Sati describes as meant for inspiration, asks the listener to notice that the words they are hearing do not originate in the speaker's mouth alone. They travel through the ears to the brain, which connects them to the mind and produces conscious experience. The teaching is therefore not a transmission from a distant authority. It happens inside the listener. Sati's conclusion is the sentence most quoted from her material: "You are the creator. You are the Buddha."

She is careful about who can reach that point easily. If the previous chapter has been understood, she says, arriving here is "an easy place to arrive at." If not, it may be harder, "but still you have the capacity to arrive here." That honesty is characteristic of the session. The claim that everyone is already a Buddha is not presented as a shortcut around the work. It is presented as the destination the whole text has been pointing toward, and the reason the difficult chapter about the web was necessary in the first place.

The reading ends where the book does, with the idea that understanding interdependence is not a finished intellectual achievement but a way of seeing that changes how one acts. Sati's last words to the room, in the recording's closing moments, are simple: she hopes listeners "just have a beautiful life."

How should a listener practice this teaching now?

Because Sati gave no further homework, the most useful way to work with this material is the one she herself suggested. Choose a single practice from the series and stay with it. For interdependent co-arising, the practice is already embedded in the text. Pick an ordinary object, such as the table at which you are reading, a cup of tea, or a piece of bread. Trace its causes outward: the soil, the rain, the hands that prepared it, the parents who raised the people who prepared it. Then notice what happens when you trace it back in again. The object becomes less of a thing and more of a meeting place.

That exercise is not a substitute for reading the book. It is an invitation to test the claim Sati makes, that a single teaching is "profound enough to change your life."

Where to go from here

If this piece sent you back to The Heart of the Buddha's Teaching, start with chapter 27 and read it slowly, the way Sati recommends. Do not try to memorize the 24 conditions. Instead, follow one example from the table image to the end and notice where your attention wants to stop. Then move to chapter 28 and ask what it would mean for you, specifically, to be the creator of your experience.

For the full context of the series, the 11 recordings of Sati's BookClub are available through the Insight Timer live archive, and she notes that listeners can return to any earlier session and arrive "right here at this very spot." The discipline she models is patience: a book read in full, a teaching held long enough to change the one holding it.

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[0:00] i'm sarah saathi this is book club with

[0:03] me sarasatti every week we come together

[0:06] we read from a selected book a text we

[0:10] read the entire text together

[0:12] and as we read the text we discuss

[0:14] chapter by chapter what we're reading

[0:17] at the end of each session i offer a

[0:20] guided practice so that we can take

[0:22] these teachings these readings and bring

[0:24] them into our hearts and then i offer

[0:26] homework for the week ahead

[0:28] this is our final session of my first

[0:31] edition of book club it has definitely

[0:34] been a learning process and i'm so

[0:38] excited to say that i made it to the end

[0:40] the book was longer than i anticipated

[0:43] so i actually didn't anticipate

[0:45] so many sessions i mean i knew how long

[0:47] the book was but i didn't realize it

[0:49] would take so long to get through so

[0:52] i'm so excited to have made it

[0:54] we made it i made it we made it if you

[0:57] stuck with me through this entire

[0:59] process either watching the recordings

[1:01] or

[1:02] joining me live here then congratulate

[1:05] yourself

[1:06] if you're joining for the first time and

[1:07] you have never joined before just

[1:10] imagine what is possible this is episode

[1:12] 11. you could go back and listen to all

[1:14] the other episodes and arrive right here

[1:16] at this very spot having made it so

[1:19] that's pretty exciting

[1:20] um i won't be giving any more homework

[1:23] this is our last session so all of the

[1:25] homework that i've given up until now

[1:27] is really a way for you to be with the

[1:30] teachings and it is enough you can go

[1:32] back and pick one homework and work with

[1:34] that homework alone

[1:36] for

[1:37] um you know months at a time and you

[1:39] would really benefit from it

[1:41] hi monica welcome

[1:43] hi kay first time yeah the book i will

[1:46] talk about just now um the book we have

[1:49] been reading from hi elena nice to see

[1:51] you again or you know be with you again

[1:53] the book we are reading from and have

[1:55] been reading from and we are finishing

[1:56] today is called the heart of the

[1:57] buddhist teaching

[1:59] teaching and it is um by tikhnathan so a

[2:02] timely choice it's an excellent book but

[2:05] it's a pretty

[2:06] deep book in that it really tries to

[2:08] capture as many of the buddha's

[2:10] teachings as possible in a short form

[2:13] and that's challenging to do and there

[2:15] are

[2:16] like 84 000 teachings of the buddha so

[2:18] that's a pretty heavy

[2:20] task

[2:22] as i said this is our very last session

[2:24] i've done a mediocre job

[2:27] just read the reviews you know

[2:29] i've i've read too fast often and

[2:31] sometimes i've read way too fast

[2:34] and that is um just the consequence of

[2:38] being my own self and the kind of reader

[2:40] that i am

[2:42] i hope that regardless of if i read fast

[2:45] or slow you are able to

[2:47] take the teachings and get something out

[2:49] of them i'm sure you can get this audio

[2:52] book somewhere else but this gives you a

[2:54] slow way of working through it

[2:56] especially if you have the book but

[2:57] haven't read it a slow way of working

[2:59] through the chapter by chapter teachings

[3:02] so that you can really understand them

[3:04] for yourself so thank you so much for

[3:07] for having faith in me and trust in me

[3:09] and being here with me

[3:11] um

[3:12] i i can really authentically say i've

[3:14] done my best and i've learned a lot so

[3:16] i'm looking forward to the next edition

[3:17] which will be in just a few

[3:19] weeks i'll announce what book i'm going

[3:21] to do

[3:22] let's not waste any time

[3:24] um yes lynn these are the best words

[3:28] yeah he was a an incredible beacon of

[3:31] light in the world he gave the world so

[3:34] much joy and so many ways to interpret

[3:38] the buddha's words and we are really

[3:40] blessed to be here and i'll talk about

[3:42] this later listening to this right now

[3:45] as usual please relax this second to

[3:48] last chapter is long it's actually in my

[3:51] opinion the most challenging chapter to

[3:53] get through

[3:54] i want you to let go of struggle or

[3:57] striving to understand anything and just

[4:00] have faith that the important concepts

[4:03] will make their way into your heart by

[4:05] being present in this moment lie down or

[4:08] sit comfortably or walk in nature

[4:10] do something that feels good to you and

[4:13] just allow your ears to be receptive

[4:16] it's helpful to generate a thought that

[4:19] you're here now for the benefit of other

[4:21] beings and if you have that thought and

[4:24] that power inside of you in this moment

[4:27] please bring that to the forefront of

[4:30] your conscious mind we are here not just

[4:33] for ourselves but as we will explore in

[4:35] this this chapter that we're about to

[4:37] get started on we are

[4:39] linked to every other being on this

[4:40] planet so the work we do for ourselves

[4:42] is without a doubt for other beings so

[4:46] um join me now relaxing in your own way

[4:49] for chapter 27 the links of

[4:52] interdependent co-arising

[4:57] interdependent co-arising

[5:00] pratitya

[5:01] samut para literally independence things

[5:04] rise up

[5:06] is a deep and wonderful teaching

[5:08] the foundation of all of buddhist study

[5:10] and practice praticha samut para is

[5:13] sometimes called the teaching of cause

[5:15] and effect but that can be misleading

[5:17] because we usually think of cause and

[5:19] effect as separate entities

[5:21] with cause always preceding effect and

[5:23] one cause leading to one effect

[5:25] according to the teaching of

[5:27] interdependent co-arising cause and

[5:29] effect co-aries and everything is a

[5:32] result of multiple causes and conditions

[5:35] the egg is in the chicken and the

[5:36] chicken is in the egg chicken and egg

[5:39] arise in mutual dependence

[5:42] neither is independent interdependent

[5:44] co-rising goes beyond our concepts of

[5:47] space and time the one contains the all

[5:50] the chinese character for cause has the

[5:52] character great inside of a rectangle

[5:55] cause is great yet at the same time

[5:58] limited the buddha expressed

[6:00] interdependent co-writing very simply

[6:03] this is because that is

[6:05] this is not because that is not

[6:07] this comes to be because that comes to

[6:09] be this ceases to be because that ceases

[6:12] to be these sentences occur hundreds of

[6:14] times in the discourses of both the

[6:16] northern and southern transmissions

[6:19] they are the buddhist genesis i would

[6:21] like to add this sentence this is like

[6:23] this because that is like that

[6:26] in the sutras this image is given three

[6:29] cut reads can stand only by leaning on

[6:31] one another if you take one away the

[6:34] other two will fail for a table to exist

[6:36] we need wood a carpenter time

[6:39] skillfulness and many other causes and

[6:42] each of these causes needs other causes

[6:44] to be the wood needs the forest the

[6:46] sunshine the rain and so on the

[6:48] carpenter needs his parents breakfast

[6:51] fresh air and so on and each of those

[6:53] things in turn has to be brought about

[6:55] by other conditions

[6:57] if we continue to look in this way we'll

[6:59] see that nothing has been left out

[7:01] everything in the cosmos has come

[7:03] together to bring us this table looking

[7:05] deeply at the sunshine the leaves of the

[7:07] tree and the clouds we can see the table

[7:10] the one can be seen in the awl and the

[7:12] all can be seen in the one

[7:17] one cause is never enough to bring about

[7:19] an effect a cause must at the same time

[7:22] be in effect and every effect must also

[7:24] be the cause of something else cause and

[7:26] effect enter r

[7:28] the idea of a first or only cause

[7:31] something that does not itself need a

[7:33] cause cannot be applied after the buddha

[7:36] passed away many schools of buddhism

[7:38] began to describe interdependent

[7:40] co-arising more analytically

[7:42] in the vasudhi maga path of purification

[7:45] of the theravada school

[7:47] buddhigosa listed 24 kinds of conditions

[7:50] the necessary and sufficient conditions

[7:52] for something to arise

[7:54] they are

[7:55] root cause

[7:56] object predominance priority

[8:00] continuity

[8:01] connaissance mutuality support

[8:05] decisive support

[8:07] pre-nascence post nascents a cause can

[8:10] be born after the effect repetition

[8:13] karma karma result

[8:16] nutriment

[8:17] faculty diana path

[8:20] association

[8:21] disassociation dissociation

[8:24] presence

[8:25] absence disappearance and

[8:27] non-disappearance

[8:29] in the sarva stevada school four kinds

[8:32] of conditions and six kinds of causes

[8:34] were taught and this later became part

[8:36] of the teachings of the vision nevada

[8:37] school of buddhist psychology

[8:40] according to this analysis all four

[8:41] kinds of conditions must be present for

[8:43] everything that exists the first of the

[8:46] four kinds of conditions is the cause

[8:47] condition seed condition or root

[8:49] condition

[8:50] just as the seed is the cause condition

[8:52] of the flower there are said to be six

[8:54] kinds of cause conditions

[8:56] one motivating or creative force

[9:00] each conditioned dharma is the general

[9:02] cause for all things except itself it is

[9:04] a co-present cause offering no obstacles

[9:08] because no dharma constitutes an

[9:09] obstacle to the arising of dharmas pros

[9:12] prone to arising this condition has the

[9:14] function of empowering and not

[9:16] restricting

[9:18] two concurrent condition

[9:20] sometimes two root conditions need to be

[9:23] present at the same time if we draw a

[9:25] line a b

[9:26] a and b both have to be there the same

[9:29] is true of lamp and lamp light all pairs

[9:32] of opposites are like that one cannot be

[9:34] present without the other above and

[9:36] below come into existence at the same

[9:38] time as do the ideas being and non-being

[9:41] these coexistent dharmas mutually

[9:43] condition one another

[9:45] three seed condition of the same kind

[9:48] similars cause similars rice produces

[9:51] rice wholesome causes bring about

[9:53] wholesome effects

[9:55] faith and joy for example make a stable

[9:57] practice possible and unwholesome causes

[10:00] bring about unwholesome effects

[10:02] four associated condition a wholesome

[10:05] and an unwholesome seed support each

[10:06] other in giving rise to something this

[10:08] is called association or correspondence

[10:11] and it applies only to mental events

[10:14] someone gives money to his church

[10:15] because he feels guilty about the wrong

[10:17] livelihood that has allowed him to make

[10:19] the money the seed of guilt due to wrong

[10:21] livelihood is unwholesome

[10:23] giving is wholesome

[10:25] the result is that the elders of the

[10:26] church tell him that they want him to

[10:28] transform his livelihood more than they

[10:30] want his money this will hurt his pride

[10:32] but can lead to much happiness in the

[10:34] future and can help alleviate his guilt

[10:36] 5.

[10:38] universal condition

[10:39] the cause is present everywhere in every

[10:42] part of our body as well as throughout

[10:43] the universe the six elements of earth

[10:46] water fire air space and consciousness

[10:49] are examples of universal conditions

[10:51] six ripening condition

[10:54] in our store consciousness not

[10:56] everything ripens at the same time when

[10:58] we bring home bananas some ripen before

[11:00] the others when we hear a dharma talk

[11:02] some of the seeds sown ripen right away

[11:05] while others might take many years a

[11:07] seed of one kind can also transform and

[11:10] ripen into something different

[11:12] at first an orange blossom an orange is

[11:14] a blossom

[11:15] then it is something green and sour and

[11:17] later it ripens into a sweet fruit a

[11:20] seed of love can ripen as a seed of

[11:22] anger when we begin our sitting

[11:24] meditation we may feel confined and

[11:26] agitated after a while our meditation

[11:29] may ripen into something quite relaxing

[11:31] and enjoyable

[11:32] the second kind of condition according

[11:34] to the sarvastiv

[11:36] vedines is called condition for

[11:38] development this can help certain seeds

[11:40] develop or can obstruct their

[11:41] development everyone has a seat of faith

[11:44] or confidence for example if you have

[11:46] friends who water this seed in you it

[11:48] will grow strong but if you meet only

[11:50] favorable conditions you will not

[11:52] realize how precious this seed is

[11:54] obstacles along the path can help our

[11:56] determination and compassion grow

[11:58] obstacles teach us about our strengths

[12:00] and weaknesses so that we can know

[12:02] ourselves better and see in which

[12:04] direction we truly wish to go

[12:06] one could say that the buddhist practice

[12:08] of austerity was unfavorable to the

[12:11] development of his path but if he had

[12:13] not undertaken those practices and

[12:15] failed in them he would not have learned

[12:17] and later taught the middle way when

[12:19] your intention is strong unfavorable

[12:21] conditions will not disenharton you

[12:23] in difficult moments you will stick to

[12:25] your friends fortify your convictions

[12:27] and not give up

[12:29] the third kind of condition is the

[12:30] condition of continuity for something to

[12:33] exist there needs to be a continuous

[12:35] succession moment after moment

[12:38] for our practice to develop we need to

[12:39] practice every day walking meditation

[12:42] listening to dharma teachings practicing

[12:44] mindfulness of the four foundations in

[12:46] all of our activities staying with the

[12:48] same sangha and practicing the same

[12:50] teachings if we put a frog on a plate it

[12:53] will jump right off if you do not

[12:54] practice steadily you'll be like a frog

[12:57] on a plate but when you decide to stay

[12:59] in one place until your practice fully

[13:01] develops we can say that you have

[13:02] reached the state of froglessness and

[13:04] have begun to practice continuity

[13:07] the fourth kind of condition is object

[13:10] as condition

[13:11] if there is no object there cannot be a

[13:13] subject for us to have confidence there

[13:16] has to be an object of our confidence

[13:19] when we feel despair we feel despair

[13:21] about something our idea of the future

[13:23] our idea of happiness or our idea of

[13:25] life

[13:26] when we are angry we have to be angry at

[13:29] someone or something according to the

[13:31] buddha all phenomena are objects of mind

[13:34] when we perceive the image or sign of

[13:36] any phenomenon we know that the object

[13:38] of our perception resides within our own

[13:40] consciousness

[13:42] can we live in a way that helps us see

[13:44] the causes that are present in the

[13:45] effects and the effects that are present

[13:47] in the causes

[13:49] when we see this way we begin to have

[13:51] insight into interdependent co-arising

[13:53] and this is right view

[13:55] in early buddhism we speak of

[13:57] interdependent co-arising in later

[13:59] buddhism we use the words inter-being

[14:01] and interpenetration

[14:03] the terminology is different but the

[14:05] meaning is the same

[14:06] after hearing the buddha teach about

[14:08] interdependent co-arising ananda said

[14:10] venerable lord the teaching of

[14:12] interdependent co-arising appears to be

[14:15] deep and subtle but i find it quite

[14:17] simple the buddha replied do not say

[14:19] that ananda the teaching of

[14:21] interdependent co-arising is indeed deep

[14:24] and subtle anyone who is able to see the

[14:26] nature of interdependent co-arising is

[14:28] able to see the buddha once you can see

[14:31] into the nature of interdependent

[14:33] co-arising you will be guided by your

[14:35] insight and you will not lose your

[14:37] practice

[14:38] the teaching of impermanence is implicit

[14:40] in the teaching of interdependent

[14:42] co-arising

[14:43] how could we live if we were not

[14:45] nourished by multiple causes and

[14:47] conditions

[14:48] the conditions that make it possible for

[14:50] us to exist and to change come from what

[14:53] is not us

[14:54] when we understand impermanence and

[14:56] non-self we understand interdependent

[14:58] co-arising in this gata nargo juna

[15:01] explains interdependent co-arising

[15:04] linking it with emptiness

[15:06] all phenomena that arise

[15:08] interdependently i say that they are

[15:11] empty

[15:12] words come to an end because their

[15:14] message is false

[15:15] words come to an end because there is a

[15:18] middle way

[15:19] all teachings of buddhism are based on

[15:21] interdependent co-arising if a teaching

[15:23] is not in accord with interdependent

[15:26] co-arising it is not a teaching of the

[15:28] buddha when you have grasped

[15:30] interdependent co-rising you bring that

[15:32] insight to shine on the three baskets of

[15:34] the teachings

[15:36] interdependent co-writing allows you to

[15:38] see the buddha and the two truths allow

[15:40] you to hear the buddha

[15:42] when you are able to see and hear the

[15:43] buddha you will not lose your way as you

[15:45] traverse the ocean of his teachings

[15:48] interdependent co-arising this is

[15:51] because that is and this is not because

[15:54] that is not is one of the most important

[15:57] of all buddhist teachings

[15:59] the insight into interdependent

[16:00] co-writing can enable the practitioner

[16:03] to understand inter-being the middle way

[16:05] and non-duality

[16:07] the buddha presented the teachings on

[16:09] interdependent co-arising in many

[16:11] different ways and using a number of

[16:13] striking images like the image of two

[16:15] bundles of reeds leaning on each other

[16:17] to support each other

[16:18] the image of indra's net is also very

[16:20] beautiful

[16:22] the teaching of the 12 links of

[16:24] conditioned genesis is designed to

[16:26] explain karma and samsara

[16:30] the 12 links which we see repeated 100

[16:33] or more times in the sutras are one way

[16:35] to explain interdependent co-arising but

[16:38] not necessarily the best

[16:40] most students of buddhism think that the

[16:42] buddha taught there are 12 links in the

[16:44] chain of interdependent co-arising

[16:47] looking into the explanations of the 12

[16:49] links we shall see that the way that

[16:51] they have been explained by many

[16:53] ancestral teachers has not helped us to

[16:55] go from the historical into the ultimate

[16:58] dimension

[16:59] the secret of skillful adaptation lies

[17:02] in looking deeply in order to gradually

[17:04] be able to let go of ideas of being and

[17:06] non-being

[17:07] birth and death

[17:09] teachings that do not help us let go of

[17:11] these notions cannot help us to enter

[17:13] the space that lies outside of the

[17:15] conceptual realm

[17:17] in the katyana

[17:19] in the kat ya yana gotra sutra the

[17:22] sentence this is because that is is able

[17:26] to help us skillfully to be in contact

[17:28] with emptiness

[17:30] even though this sentence uses words

[17:32] like is

[17:33] is not this that

[17:36] still it helps us to let go of these

[17:37] notions while the 12 links cling to the

[17:40] notions of being a non-being

[17:42] the 12 links are ignorance formations

[17:45] consciousness mind body

[17:47] six senses and sense objects

[17:50] contact feeling craving grasping being

[17:55] birth and old age and death

[17:57] the way the 12 links have been explained

[17:59] does not belong to the deep teachings of

[18:01] the buddha and cannot help us to be in

[18:03] contact with emptiness here we have to

[18:06] use the methodology of the reliance that

[18:08] says rely on the deep meaning sutras and

[18:11] not on the superficial meaning sutras

[18:13] the superficial meaning is not

[18:15] necessarily wrong but its function and

[18:17] role are other the twelve links are used

[18:20] in the sutra to explain karma and

[18:22] samsara and are not to put us in contact

[18:24] with emptiness and the space of the

[18:26] ultimate dimension

[18:28] cause and result in the three times and

[18:31] on two levels

[18:32] the ancestral teachers have divided the

[18:35] twelve links into the three times past

[18:37] present and future

[18:39] ignorance and formations belong to the

[18:40] past

[18:42] consciousness mind body the sixth sense

[18:44] fields contact feelings craving grasping

[18:48] and being belong to the present

[18:51] and birth old age and death belong to

[18:53] the future

[18:55] it is said that because in our former

[18:56] lives we were ignorant and have made

[18:58] formations

[18:59] in this life we have consequences this

[19:01] is explained as karma psychosoma sixth

[19:04] sense fields contact feelings craving

[19:07] grasping and being

[19:09] because there is being in this life in

[19:11] the next life we shall have to be born

[19:13] grow old and die and we shall have to

[19:15] continue in samsara

[19:17] ignorance and karmic formations are the

[19:20] cause in the past consciousness

[19:22] psychosoma sixth sense fields contact

[19:26] feelings craving grasping and becoming

[19:29] are the result in the present

[19:31] feelings craving grasping and being in

[19:34] the present will be the cause of birth

[19:36] old age and death in the future

[19:39] these are the two levels of cause and

[19:41] result

[19:42] this is the way the teachers of the past

[19:44] and many teachers today explain the 12

[19:46] links

[19:47] it is said that dependent on ignorance

[19:49] there is consciousness dependent on

[19:51] consciousness there is the mind body

[19:53] dependent on the mind body are the sense

[19:56] organs and objects dependent on the

[19:58] sense or organs and objects is contact

[20:01] dependent on contact is feeling

[20:03] dependent on feeling is craving

[20:05] dependent on craving is grasping

[20:08] dependent on grasping as being

[20:10] dependent on being we have to be born

[20:12] again and die and continue in the cycle

[20:15] of samsara

[20:16] this is the understanding of most

[20:17] vietnamese and chinese buddhists

[20:19] concerning the 12 links but it leads to

[20:21] a serious misunderstanding because there

[20:24] is craving and grasping there as being

[20:26] because there is being we have to be

[20:28] born and die again and again

[20:30] bhava is being and the opposite is

[20:32] non-being abbava

[20:34] we make being the culprit and think that

[20:37] the path to liberation is non-being and

[20:39] that we must practice in order to

[20:41] realize non-being

[20:43] however the buddha taught clearly that

[20:45] both being and non-being are wrong views

[20:48] people say if you want to avoid the

[20:50] cycle of birth and death

[20:51] you have to come to non-being and

[20:53] therefore the aim of a buddhist

[20:55] practitioner is annihilation or eternal

[20:58] death

[20:59] sometimes the buddha talks of only four

[21:02] five six or seven links and there seems

[21:05] to be no need for 12 links

[21:08] in the maha viba

[21:11] shastra volume

[21:13] 24 it says because the buddha deeply

[21:16] understood the different capacities of

[21:19] living beings

[21:20] he taught interdependent co-arising in

[21:22] many ways

[21:24] sometimes he taught one link sometimes 2

[21:27] 3 4

[21:28] up to 12. the four links are ignorance

[21:33] formations

[21:34] being which goes with non-being and

[21:36] birth which goes with death

[21:38] the 12 links have been described and

[21:40] commented on in a linear way as a

[21:42] vertical chain so that one link gives

[21:45] rise to the next link which makes the

[21:47] interdependent character of all the

[21:49] links difficult to see

[21:51] the second link of the twelve has been

[21:54] explained as volitional actions

[21:56] samskara in buddhism does not mean

[21:58] action but formations

[22:01] physical physiological and psychological

[22:04] phenomena in the 12 links people have

[22:06] been forced to explain formations as

[22:08] impulses mistaken impulses or volitional

[22:11] actions but that is forcing a new

[22:13] meaning on the word because people

[22:14] wanted to show that consciousness arises

[22:16] from past action

[22:18] but the 12 links were not taught by the

[22:20] buddha to justify a theory of the cycle

[22:23] of samsara or birth and death

[22:25] when we say that formations condition

[22:27] consciousness we mean that in ignorance

[22:30] we construe formations as being separate

[22:32] realities outside of each other this way

[22:35] of looking at things makes

[22:36] discriminatory consciousness possible

[22:38] and at the same time discriminatory

[22:40] consciousness makes seeing formations as

[22:43] separate realities possible

[22:45] according to the traditional explanation

[22:47] of the 12 links feelings lead to craving

[22:50] that is only part of the truth because

[22:52] only pleasant feelings lead to craving

[22:54] and that's only true of people who do

[22:56] not practice and people who do not have

[22:58] wisdom

[22:59] someone who practices like a buddha an

[23:00] arhat or an enlightened layperson knows

[23:03] that pleasant feelings can lead to

[23:04] suffering and are dangerous and so those

[23:06] feelings do not lead to craving

[23:09] so this link only presents part of the

[23:11] truth if it is a painful feeling it will

[23:13] lead to avoidance aversion so if we want

[23:16] to present the true spirit of buddhism

[23:18] we have to say that contact leads to

[23:20] pleasant and painful feelings and that

[23:22] feelings can lead to hatred and aversion

[23:25] and not always to craving and grasping

[23:28] grasping means being attached to being

[23:30] bound by or craving craving is not just

[23:33] craving for being it can also be craving

[23:35] for non-existence

[23:36] people who do not want to live or who

[23:38] commit suicide long for non-being

[23:41] in the diga nikaya the buddha teaches

[23:43] three kinds of craving

[23:45] one thirst for the desire realm

[23:48] thirst for existence and the last one

[23:50] thirst for non-existence the aim of our

[23:53] practice is to go beyond existence and

[23:55] non-existence not just to go beyond

[23:57] existence

[23:58] the 12 links of interdependent

[24:00] co-arising as they are usually explained

[24:03] are not able to show that

[24:05] in the katya yayana gotra sutra the

[24:07] buddha teaches that right view is the

[24:09] view that goes beyond being a non-being

[24:11] according to the usual explanation of

[24:13] the twelve links there is just the

[24:15] desire to escape from being this gives

[24:17] rise to a huge misunderstanding and

[24:19] people say that buddhism just aims at

[24:21] removing being in order to arrive at

[24:23] non-being and that buddhism is a path

[24:25] that teaches nihilism so that the aim of

[24:28] a buddhist practitioner is nothingness

[24:30] eternal death

[24:31] i want to just stop there and say to

[24:33] understand this a little bit more

[24:36] we can think of non-being like no

[24:37] thought

[24:38] so if you think if you've heard that the

[24:40] practice of meditation is to generate no

[24:42] thought tikna han is saying this is

[24:44] incorrect it's not to have thought or to

[24:47] not have thought it's to see beyond

[24:49] thought and no thought

[24:50] and i think this is also an important

[24:52] point to just make quickly that when

[24:54] tiknot han is talking about

[24:56] the

[24:56] sort of insufficiency of the teachings

[24:59] of the 12 links across time

[25:01] what he's saying is that they are

[25:02] incomplete because they are one mostly

[25:06] taught linearly

[25:07] and two mostly taught in a hierarchical

[25:10] way in this linear fashion

[25:11] and then three that they're missing

[25:13] their opposites

[25:15] so what tiknot han is suggesting is that

[25:17] to really understand interdependent

[25:19] co-rising we have to see that it's not

[25:22] being or non-being and it's not linear

[25:24] or hierarchical it's like a net like a

[25:27] web and everything is interconnected and

[25:30] so there is no one link second link

[25:32] third link fourth link there are all the

[25:34] links together at one time and it is not

[25:36] the buddhist way to get rid of the idea

[25:39] of being to have no ego to have no

[25:41] thought it's to see no thought and

[25:44] thought it's to see no ego and no ego

[25:47] and then to go beyond and the heart

[25:49] sutra really gives this which i won't go

[25:51] too deep into

[25:53] tens of western scholars who studied

[25:56] buddhism at the end of the 19th and

[25:58] beginning of the 20th century have come

[26:00] to this conclusion

[26:02] they say that to overcome samsara means

[26:04] that on attaining our hat ship the saint

[26:06] will never be born again one of the

[26:08] reasons for this huge misunderstanding

[26:10] is the mistaken transmission of buddhist

[26:12] teachings by buddhists themselves

[26:14] therefore instead of saying that

[26:16] grasping leads to being we should say

[26:19] that grasping leads to being and

[26:21] non-being

[26:23] being a non-being according to the katja

[26:25] yanagotra sutra are two ideas that

[26:28] obscure right view

[26:30] instead of saying that being leads to

[26:32] birth we should say that being and

[26:34] non-being lead to birth and death

[26:37] in our head we have become used to the

[26:39] idea that when we are born we come into

[26:41] being out of non-being and when we die

[26:44] we go from being into non-being

[26:46] if we remove the idea of being a

[26:48] non-being there is no more idea of birth

[26:51] and death that is a way of looking from

[26:53] the cognitive point of view and not the

[26:55] etiological so again you can think

[26:57] thought and no thought so you can think

[27:00] if i want to apply this in a different

[27:02] way where it may be a little bit more

[27:03] relatable you think a thought comes and

[27:06] you think it comes from nothing and when

[27:08] it goes it goes to nothing and tiknathan

[27:10] is inviting us to explore that truth and

[27:12] go deeper than what we might perceive on

[27:15] a superficial level to see that actually

[27:17] the thought goes somewhere when it's not

[27:19] here and it is here and when it leaves

[27:22] here it goes back to that place and this

[27:24] is the concept of

[27:26] store consciousness in buddhism

[27:28] interdependent co-arising is pointing to

[27:31] an understanding of cognition and is not

[27:33] an attempt to explain a dogma or theory

[27:36] the aim of the 12 links as we now have

[27:38] them in so many sutras is to explain the

[27:40] phenomenon of samsara and rebirth for

[27:43] people of average understanding

[27:46] the buddha usually began the twelve

[27:47] links with eight old age and death to

[27:50] help us get in touch with suffering and

[27:51] find its roots this is closely linked to

[27:54] the teachings and practice of the four

[27:56] noble truths

[27:57] it was after the lifetime of the buddha

[27:59] that teachers more often than not began

[28:01] with ignorance to help prove why there

[28:03] is birth and death

[28:05] ignorance became a kind of first cause

[28:08] even though the buddha always taught

[28:09] that no first cause can be found if

[28:12] ignorance exists it is because there are

[28:14] causes that gives rise to and deepen

[28:17] ignorance

[28:18] the buddha was not a philosopher trying

[28:20] to explain the universe he was a

[28:22] spiritual guide who wanted to help us

[28:24] put an end to our suffering

[28:26] when we hear from commentators that some

[28:27] links are causes and others are effects

[28:30] we know that this is not consistent with

[28:32] the buddha's teachings that everything

[28:34] is both a cause and an effect

[28:36] to think that ignorance gives rise to

[28:38] formations which later give rise to

[28:39] consciousness which then give rise to

[28:41] mind body would be a dangerous

[28:43] oversimplification

[28:45] when the buddha said ignorance

[28:46] conditions formations he meant that

[28:48] there is a relationship of cause and

[28:50] effect between ignorance and formations

[28:53] ignorance nourishes formations but

[28:55] formations also nourish ignorance the

[28:58] tree gives rise to and nourishes its

[29:00] leaves but the leaves also nourish the

[29:03] tree leaves are not just the children of

[29:05] the tree they are also the mother of the

[29:07] tree because of the leaves the tree is

[29:09] able to grow every leaf is a factory

[29:12] synthesizing sunshine to nourish the

[29:14] tree

[29:15] the inter being of leaf and tree is

[29:17] parallel to the inter being of the links

[29:20] of interdependent co-arising we say that

[29:22] ignorance conditions formations but

[29:24] ignorance also conditions consciousness

[29:27] both through formations and directly

[29:29] ignorance conditions mind body as well

[29:31] if there were no ignorance in mind body

[29:34] mind body would be different our six

[29:36] organs and the six objects of these

[29:37] organs also contain ignorance my

[29:40] perception of the flower is based on my

[29:42] eyes and on the form of the flower as

[29:44] soon as my perception becomes caught in

[29:46] the sign flower ignorance is there

[29:49] therefore ignorance is present in

[29:52] contact and it is also present in

[29:54] feelings craving grasping coming to be

[29:57] birth and old age and death

[30:00] ignorance is not just in the pre past it

[30:03] is present now in each of our cells and

[30:05] each of our mental formations if there

[30:08] were no ignorance we would not become

[30:10] attached to things if there were no

[30:11] ignorance we would not grasp the objects

[30:13] of our attachment if there were no

[30:15] ignorance the suffering that is

[30:17] manifesting right now would not be there

[30:19] our practice is to identify ignorance

[30:22] when it is present grasping is in

[30:24] formations feelings coming to be birth

[30:27] and old age and death our infatuations

[30:30] are running away from this or toward

[30:32] that and our intentions can be seen in

[30:34] all the other links every link

[30:36] conditions every other link and is

[30:39] conditioned by them

[30:40] with this understanding we can abandon

[30:42] the idea of a sequential chain of

[30:44] causation and enter deeply the practice

[30:46] of interdependent co-arising that will

[30:48] help us be in touch with the ultimate

[30:50] dimension it is not that consciousness

[30:53] is there before mind body but that

[30:55] consciousness and mind body enter our

[30:58] the six fields of the six of the senses

[31:01] are part of mind and body they are not

[31:03] just a result of mind body

[31:05] moreover craving is not the only mental

[31:08] formation that accompanies feelings

[31:10] sometimes a feeling is not accompanied

[31:12] by craving but by aversion

[31:15] sometimes the feeling is not accompanied

[31:16] by ignorance but by understanding

[31:18] lucidity or loving kindness and the

[31:20] outcome will not be craving or aversion

[31:23] to say that feeling brings about craving

[31:25] is not precise enough

[31:26] feeling with attachment and ignorance

[31:28] brings about craving in any description

[31:30] of the links whether it is 4 5 9 10 or

[31:34] 12 we must link each link with all the

[31:37] other links this is what the heart sutra

[31:39] means when it tells us no interdependent

[31:41] origins the links are empty because each

[31:44] of them would not exist without all of

[31:46] the others feeling cannot be without

[31:49] craving grasping being birth old age and

[31:52] death ignorance formations and so on

[31:55] the usual way of presenting

[31:57] interdependent co-arising in terms of

[31:59] the 12 links is not enough to help

[32:01] people be in touch with the true right

[32:03] view in other words the view that goes

[32:06] beyond being in non-being birth and

[32:08] death eternal and annihilated coming and

[32:10] going etc

[32:12] right view is the foundation of the

[32:13] noble eightfold path the royal road that

[32:16] leads to nirvana

[32:17] right view is not just the belief in the

[32:19] fruits of good and evil it is the

[32:21] highest insight for the practitioner of

[32:23] the spiritual path it is the insight

[32:26] into no birth no death no defiled no

[32:29] immaculate no being no non-being no same

[32:33] no different no coming and no going it

[32:35] is the insight into interdependent

[32:37] co-arising that puts an end to all

[32:39] extreme views all discrimination all

[32:42] division which are the root of all

[32:44] afflictions like fear resentment despair

[32:47] and craving

[32:48] without right view it is not truly

[32:50] possible to have right thinking right

[32:52] speech right action and all the other

[32:54] seven limbs of the noble eightfold path

[32:57] not only is the doctrine of the twelve

[32:59] links as it is usually taught unable to

[33:01] help us come to that insight

[33:03] but it also leads us to the harmful

[33:05] misunderstanding that the aim of the

[33:07] practice is eternal death this wrong

[33:09] view has been held by so many people

[33:12] including a monk disciple of the buddha

[33:14] named yamaka and the 12 links have been

[33:17] inserted into many sutras where they do

[33:18] not belong

[33:21] the purpose of all of these sutras is to

[33:23] propound the absolute truth and

[33:25] inserting the twelve links into them

[33:27] causes inconsistencies if our

[33:29] understanding of the twelve links is the

[33:31] normal understanding of a linear

[33:33] progression which cannot help us be in

[33:35] touch with emptiness nirvana and true

[33:37] understanding the sutra on skillful

[33:39] adaptation connecting to emptiness

[33:42] is specifically about touching emptiness

[33:44] through interdependent co-arising

[33:46] the formula sunyata prati-samyukta

[33:50] pratita

[33:54] means precisely the skillful adaptation

[33:58] of interdependent co-writing is able to

[34:01] lead us into being in touch with

[34:03] emptiness

[34:04] if the links are to help us be in touch

[34:06] with emptiness they have to be

[34:08] understood in terms of the deepest

[34:10] teaching of the buddha and not as an

[34:12] explanation of rebirth in the cycle of

[34:14] samsara

[34:15] tidying up the links it is time for us

[34:18] to present the teachings of

[34:19] interdependent co-writing in a way that

[34:21] is easy and approachable for people of

[34:23] our time

[34:24] in the light of what has been said above

[34:26] we can present a teaching of the ten

[34:28] links that can help us be in touch with

[34:30] emptiness the ten links are as follows

[34:33] one ignorance

[34:35] two formations

[34:36] three consciousness

[34:38] four mind body

[34:40] five pleasant and painful feelings

[34:43] six craving and aversion

[34:45] seven grasping and rejecting

[34:47] eight being and non-being

[34:49] nine birth and death and ten samsara

[34:52] you will see that the schema does not

[34:54] have the links of the six sense fields

[34:55] and contact that is because these links

[34:58] are already understood as being part of

[35:00] formations consciousness and mind body

[35:03] since birth and death are conceptually

[35:04] so close to each other they are one link

[35:06] and samsara the cycle of bondage has

[35:09] been added as the tenth link

[35:11] we can explain the ten links as follows

[35:13] when there is ignorance people see

[35:15] formations in terms of separate entities

[35:18] lying outside of each other

[35:20] because of this they see consciousness

[35:22] as the subject separated from its object

[35:24] they see body separated from mind there

[35:26] are pleasant neutral and painful

[35:28] feelings based on body and mind

[35:30] co-arising with these feelings some come

[35:33] the craving if they are pleasant and the

[35:35] aversion if they are painful

[35:37] with this arises the desire to grasp or

[35:39] to reject

[35:41] with this arises the attachment to ideas

[35:43] of being a non-being and as a result of

[35:45] this we are continually imprisoned in

[35:47] the idea of birth and death we have to

[35:50] cycle in samsara and are not able to

[35:52] realize nirvana

[35:54] strictly speaking the two links of

[35:56] consciousness and mind body are not

[35:57] necessary

[35:58] because formations include the five

[36:00] skandas that have

[36:02] that have all aspects of body and

[36:04] consciousness but in some cases to add

[36:06] them in can make for more clarity

[36:08] we study interdependent co-arising in

[36:10] order to diminish the element of

[36:12] ignorance in us and to increase the

[36:14] element of clarity when our ignorance is

[36:16] diminished craving hatred pride doubt

[36:19] and views are also diminished and love

[36:22] compassion joy and equanimity are

[36:24] increased in other words the

[36:26] transformation of ignorance leads to the

[36:28] transformation of all other links in the

[36:30] chain or the transformation of any of

[36:32] the links entails the transformation of

[36:35] all of the others if we can guard the

[36:37] six senses and practice mindfulness of

[36:39] feelings and perceptions we can also

[36:41] transform the rest of the cycle

[36:43] including ignorance

[36:46] as you can see there is also a positive

[36:48] side to the links although buddhist

[36:50] teachers since the time of the buddha

[36:51] seem to have overlooked this we need to

[36:53] find words to describe the

[36:55] interdependent co-arising of positive

[36:57] states of mind and body and not just of

[36:59] negative states the buddha taught that

[37:01] when ignorance ends there is clear

[37:03] understanding he didn't say that when

[37:04] ignorance ends there is nothing there is

[37:07] co-arising conditioned by deluded mind

[37:09] and co-arising conditioned by true mind

[37:12] the world society and the individual

[37:14] have been formed by a cycle of

[37:16] conditions based on diluted mind

[37:18] naturally in a world based on diluted

[37:20] mind there is suffering and affliction

[37:23] but when conditions are based on true

[37:24] mind they reflect the wondrous nature of

[37:27] reality everything depends on our mind

[37:29] those who teach the links of

[37:31] interdependent co-arising need to

[37:33] understand their positive side and the

[37:35] role of the links in helping us to be in

[37:37] touch with nirvana

[37:38] in this light we learn to see that there

[37:40] is a cycle that helps us be in touch

[37:42] with nirvana just as there is a cycle

[37:44] that helps us be in touch with samsara

[37:47] ignorance is the lack of light it is

[37:49] connected to deluded mind understanding

[37:52] or wisdom is connected to true mind the

[37:55] presence of light means the absence of

[37:57] darkness the presence of ignorance means

[37:59] the absence of understanding the buddha

[38:01] said when ignorance comes to an end

[38:03] understanding arises

[38:05] just as ignorance conditions the other

[38:06] links of deluded mind so wisdom

[38:09] conditions other links of true mind the

[38:11] second link formations is the object of

[38:14] our perception

[38:15] as far as deluded mind is concerned they

[38:17] are separate entities

[38:19] when there is wisdom we see that

[38:20] formations or conditioned things do not

[38:22] have a separate nature and depend on

[38:24] each other to exist the father depends

[38:26] on the son and the son on the father if

[38:29] there were no son there would be no

[38:30] father and if there were no father there

[38:32] could be no sun

[38:33] seeing things as separate entities just

[38:36] makes our ignorance deeper

[38:38] so not only does ignorance condition

[38:40] formations but formations condition

[38:42] ignorance

[38:43] seeing things lying in each other

[38:45] interpenetrating each other strengthens

[38:47] our wisdom and comes from our wisdom

[38:50] consciousness the third link is an

[38:52] important formation it is important

[38:54] enough for us to be able to make it a

[38:56] separate link

[38:57] when it belongs to the sphere of deluded

[38:59] mind it is known as discriminatory

[39:01] consciousness because its function is to

[39:03] discriminate the perceiver from the

[39:04] perceived and make the objective world

[39:07] seem to be separate from the observer

[39:09] when the buddha looks at a flower he

[39:11] knows that the flower is his own

[39:13] consciousness this is the state of

[39:15] consciousness when it is a link in a

[39:17] positive cycle there is nothing wrong

[39:19] with consciousness but having realized

[39:22] that all formations enter our we come to

[39:25] realize that there is not a separate

[39:26] world outside of consciousness nor is

[39:29] there a separate consciousness outside

[39:31] of the world

[39:32] it is the wisdom of non-duality that

[39:35] understands that the subject of

[39:36] consciousness is not separate from the

[39:38] object of consciousness

[39:40] consciousness is the base for

[39:41] distinguishing planning helping and

[39:44] doing good work so it's necessary

[39:46] that kind of consciousness is present in

[39:48] the buddha and the bodhisattvas the

[39:50] buddha said how lovely is the city of

[39:53] vaishali he said ananda don't you think

[39:55] that the rice fields are lovely shall we

[39:57] go into town and share the dharma

[40:00] these statements are made based on lucid

[40:02] consciousness consciousness full of

[40:04] understanding care and love

[40:06] consciousness is described in the vision

[40:08] of ada schema in terms of eight

[40:10] consciousnesses and these are

[40:11] transformed into the four wisdoms when

[40:13] the seeds of awakening love and

[40:15] compassion and store consciousness have

[40:17] been developed and matured store

[40:19] consciousness is transformed and becomes

[40:21] the great mirror wisdom that reflects

[40:23] the reality of all that is

[40:25] all the seeds that can become the great

[40:27] mirror wisdom are already present in

[40:29] store consciousness we only have to

[40:31] water them great mirror wisdom is the

[40:34] outcome of the practice of being in

[40:35] touch with the true nature of things by

[40:38] contemplation on inter being

[40:40] impermanence and non-self

[40:42] we have to learn the ways to use our

[40:44] consciousness as a tool of

[40:46] transformation

[40:47] our sixth sense organs eyes ears nose

[40:50] tongue body and mind can contribute

[40:52] toward the arising of great mirror

[40:54] wisdom

[40:55] we see that the buddha also has six

[40:57] senses that enter into contact with

[40:59] sixth sense objects but he knows how to

[41:01] guard his senses so that the more

[41:03] internal knots will not be tied

[41:06] the buddha uses his six senses

[41:07] skillfully and realizes wonderful things

[41:10] the first five consciousnesses become

[41:12] the wisdom of wonderful realization

[41:15] we can use these five consciousnesses to

[41:17] serve others

[41:18] mind consciousness upon emancipation

[41:21] becomes the wonderful observation wisdom

[41:23] wisdom that can see things as they are

[41:25] the wisdom of equality comes from the

[41:27] seven consciousness

[41:29] manas is the number one discriminator it

[41:31] says this is me this is mine this is not

[41:34] mine that is monis's specialty we have

[41:37] to keep this consciousness so that it

[41:38] become become the wisdom of equality our

[41:42] consciousness has to be transformed and

[41:44] not thrown away wonderful observation

[41:46] wisdom transforms manus into the wisdom

[41:49] of equality we are one we are equal i

[41:52] may think that you are my enemy but

[41:54] while touching the ultimate dimension

[41:56] i see that you and i are one sometimes

[41:58] we only need to touch the earth once and

[42:00] the wisdom of equality appears right in

[42:02] the heart of our modest consciousness

[42:04] wonderful observation wisdom takes the

[42:07] place of the sixth consciousness mind

[42:09] consciousness

[42:10] before the disappearance of ignorance

[42:12] the sixth consciousness gives rise to

[42:14] many wrong perceptions like seeing a

[42:16] rope as a snake and a lot of suffering

[42:18] thanks to transformation at the base the

[42:20] store consciousness becomes great mirror

[42:22] wisdom

[42:23] the sixth consciousness can be

[42:24] transformed into wonderful observation

[42:26] wisdom

[42:28] the fourth wisdom great mirror wisdom

[42:30] brings about miracles in the past our

[42:32] eye consciousness made us infatuated or

[42:34] put us in the dark now with our eyes

[42:37] open we can see the dharmakaya the

[42:39] natural world as the teaching body of

[42:41] the buddha when our mind is clear like a

[42:43] con river the sixth consciousness is

[42:45] wonderful observation wisdom and our

[42:47] store consciousness is great mirror

[42:49] wisdom

[42:50] the fourth link in our schema of the ten

[42:52] links is mind body

[42:54] mind body is the five aggregates we

[42:56] don't say the five aggregates are

[42:58] suffering and throw them away if we do

[43:00] there will be nothing left no nirvana no

[43:02] peace and no joy we need an intelligent

[43:04] policy for taking care of our garbage

[43:07] we have body and mind and in the sphere

[43:08] of deluded mind we experience them as a

[43:11] duality and our mind becomes alienated

[43:13] from our body

[43:15] when we sit in front of the computer we

[43:16] often forget that we have a body with

[43:19] wisdom we can experience body and mind

[43:21] as the same reality

[43:23] bodhisattvas have body and mind and the

[43:25] buddha has a body in mind we do not need

[43:27] to throw away our body in order to

[43:29] experience liberation and we should not

[43:31] see our body as a prison an obstacle for

[43:34] our mind

[43:35] we practice to realize an embodied mind

[43:37] and a mindful body in such a body and

[43:39] mind there is no longer ignorance no

[43:41] more formations as separate realities

[43:44] and no more discriminatory consciousness

[43:46] the function of this mind body is to

[43:48] awaken and liberate beings

[43:50] the fifth link in our schema is pleasant

[43:53] painful and neutral feelings when we

[43:55] practice mindfulness we learn how to

[43:57] handle our feelings which means

[43:59] recognizing embracing and transforming

[44:01] painful feelings and nourishing the true

[44:03] happiness within us not allowing

[44:05] ourselves to be dominated by neutral

[44:07] feelings so the positive side of

[44:09] feelings is mindfulness of feelings

[44:12] every contact of the senses and every

[44:15] feeling has clarity and calmness

[44:17] when the six senses and their objects

[44:19] make contact this contact gives rise to

[44:21] a pleasant unpleasant or neutral feeling

[44:24] when a bodhisattva sees a child

[44:26] suffering she knows how it feels to

[44:28] suffer and she also has an unpleasant

[44:30] feeling

[44:31] but because of that suffering concern

[44:33] and compassion arise in her and she is

[44:36] determined to act bodhisattvas suffer

[44:38] like the rest of us but in a bodhisattva

[44:41] feelings do not give rise to craving or

[44:43] aversion

[44:44] when a bodhisattva sees a beautiful

[44:46] flower she recognizes that the flower is

[44:48] beautiful but she also sees the nature

[44:50] of impermanence in the flower that is

[44:53] why there is no attachment

[44:54] she has a pleasant feeling but it does

[44:56] not create an internal formation

[44:59] emancipation does not mean that she

[45:01] suppresses all feelings when she comes

[45:03] into contact with hot water she knows it

[45:06] is hot feelings are normal in fact these

[45:08] feelings help her dwell in happiness

[45:10] not the kind of happiness that's subject

[45:12] to sorrow and anxiety but the kind of

[45:14] happiness that nourishes

[45:16] when you practice breathing smiling

[45:18] being touched by the air and the water

[45:21] that kind of happiness does not create

[45:22] suffering in you it helps you be strong

[45:24] insane able to go further on your way

[45:27] toward realization

[45:28] buddhas bodhisattvas and many others

[45:30] have the capacity of enjoying a pleasant

[45:33] feeling the kind of feeling that is

[45:34] healing and rejuvenating without

[45:36] becoming attached the feeling that we

[45:38] have when we see people oppressed or

[45:40] starving can give rise in us to concern

[45:42] compassion and the willingness to act

[45:44] with equanimity not with attachment

[45:47] the sixth link is craving and aversion

[45:49] in the cycle of deluded mind and the

[45:51] four immeasurable minds in the cycle of

[45:53] true mind

[45:55] when feelings and contact are protected

[45:57] they lead not to craving an aversion but

[45:59] to love compassion joy and equanimity

[46:02] the four immeasurable minds when we see

[46:03] people suffering or in pain or when we

[46:05] see them enjoying themselves in a

[46:06] foolish way a feeling in us gives rise

[46:09] to the energy of loving kindness the

[46:11] desire and the capacity to offer real

[46:13] joy and this leads to the energy of

[46:15] compassion the desire and capacity to

[46:18] help living beings put an end to their

[46:19] suffering

[46:20] this energy gives rise to joy in us and

[46:23] we are able to share our joy with others

[46:25] it also gives rise to equanimity not

[46:27] taking sides or getting carried away by

[46:29] the images and sounds brought to us

[46:30] through contact and feelings equanimity

[46:33] does not mean indifference we see the

[46:35] ones we love and the ones we hate

[46:36] equally and try our best to make both of

[46:39] them happy we accept the flowers and the

[46:41] garbage with neither attachment nor

[46:43] aversion we treat both with respect

[46:45] equanimity means to let go

[46:48] not to abandon abandoning causes

[46:50] suffering when we are not attached we

[46:52] are able to let go the seventh link is

[46:55] grasping and rejecting in the cycle of

[46:57] deluded mind and freedom in the cycle of

[46:59] true mind

[47:00] the four immeasurable minds are the

[47:01] basis for freedom when we are in touch

[47:04] with things by means of the mind of love

[47:06] we do not run away or seek and that is

[47:08] the basis of freedom

[47:10] aimlessness takes the place of grasping

[47:13] the eighth link is being and non-being

[47:15] in the cycle of deluded mind and right

[47:17] view or the insight that overcomes both

[47:19] the notions of being and non-being in

[47:21] the cycle of true mind

[47:23] in his first dharma talk the buddha

[47:24] cautioned his disciples not to be

[47:26] attached to either bhava or vibhava

[47:28] being ornan being because bhava and

[47:30] bivava are just constructs of the mind

[47:33] reality is somewhere in between with the

[47:35] transformation of grasping into freedom

[47:37] we see both being and non-being as

[47:39] creations of our mind and we ride the

[47:41] waves of birth and death

[47:43] we don't mind birth we don't mind death

[47:45] if we have to be born again to continue

[47:47] the work of helping that's okay

[47:49] the ninth link is birth and death in the

[47:51] realm of deluded mind and no birth and

[47:53] no death in the realm of true mind

[47:56] the leaf has the appearance of being

[47:57] born and dying but it is not caught in

[48:00] either

[48:01] the leaf falls to the earth without any

[48:02] idea of dying and is born again by

[48:04] decomposing at the foot of the tree and

[48:06] nourishing the tree

[48:08] the cloud has the appearance of dying

[48:10] but if we look we see that it can never

[48:12] die it can only become rain or snow when

[48:14] a leaf is born we can sing happy

[48:16] continuation when a leaf falls we can

[48:19] sing happy continuation when we have

[48:21] awakened understanding birth is a

[48:23] continuation and death is a continuation

[48:26] birth is an appearance and death is an

[48:28] appearance people also appear to be born

[48:31] grow old and die

[48:33] the tenth link is samsara in the sphere

[48:35] of deluded mind and nirvana in the

[48:37] sphere of true mind

[48:38] in the 11th century in vietnam a monk

[48:41] asked his meditation master where is the

[48:43] place beyond birth and death the master

[48:45] replied in the midst of birth and death

[48:48] if you abandon birth and death in order

[48:50] to find nirvana you will not find

[48:52] nirvana nirvana is in birth and death

[48:55] nirvana is birth and death it depends on

[48:58] how you look at it from one point of

[48:59] view it is birth and death from another

[49:01] it's nirvana

[49:02] when we have freedom what seem to be

[49:04] suffering becomes wondrous being it can

[49:07] also be called the kingdom of god or

[49:08] nirvana

[49:09] someone who is free has the ability to

[49:12] establish a pure land a place where

[49:14] people do not need to run

[49:16] wondrous being is beyond being and

[49:18] non-being if a bodhisattva needs to

[49:20] manifest being if he needs to be born in

[49:22] this world he will be born in this world

[49:24] there is still life but he is not caught

[49:26] in the ideas of being non-being birth or

[49:28] death

[49:29] let us not present the teachings of the

[49:31] buddha as an attempt to escape from life

[49:33] and go to nothingness or non-being

[49:35] bodhisattvas vow to come back again and

[49:37] again to serve not because of craving

[49:40] but because of their concern and

[49:41] willingness to help

[49:43] imagine 1 000 people whose minds are

[49:45] full of misperceptions wrong views envy

[49:48] jealousy and anger if they come together

[49:51] they will create a hell on earth the

[49:53] surroundings they live in their daily

[49:54] lives and their relationships will all

[49:56] be hellish

[49:57] if two people full of misunderstanding

[49:59] live together they create a hell realm

[50:01] for each other how much greater the hell

[50:03] of one thousand people

[50:05] to make hell into paradise we only need

[50:08] to change the mind on which it is based

[50:10] to change the minds of 1 000 people

[50:12] it may be necessary to bring in some

[50:14] element from the outside like a dharma

[50:16] teacher or a group of people practicing

[50:18] the dharma

[50:19] imagine 1 000 people who do not have

[50:21] wrong perceptions anger or jealousy but

[50:24] who have love understanding and

[50:25] happiness if these people come together

[50:28] and form a community it will be paradise

[50:30] the mind of the people is the basis of

[50:32] paradise with your deluded mind you make

[50:34] hell with your true mind you make

[50:36] paradise if two people come together

[50:38] with true mind they make a small

[50:40] paradise for themselves

[50:42] if a third person wants to join them

[50:44] they should be careful should we let

[50:46] them join us or not if their paradise is

[50:48] solid they can allow him to join with

[50:50] two true minds there is hope that one

[50:52] deluded mind can be gradually

[50:54] transformed later there will be three

[50:57] true minds and this small paradise will

[50:58] continue to grow

[51:00] many volumes have been written about the

[51:02] 12 links of interdependent co-arising

[51:04] based on diluted mind

[51:06] we have to open a new door and teach the

[51:08] practice of the links based on true mind

[51:10] in order to bring about a world of peace

[51:12] and joy

[51:14] from the positive point of view we can

[51:16] explain when there is wisdom people see

[51:18] the nature of formations as inter being

[51:21] and because of this they realize that

[51:23] consciousness as the subject is not

[51:25] separate from the object they see the

[51:27] body and mind as two aspects of the same

[51:29] reality and is inseparable from each

[51:31] other and they know how to take care of

[51:33] painful feelings and nourish feelings of

[51:35] true happiness

[51:36] from this come compassion and

[51:37] inclusiveness and the desire to

[51:39] transform and help the situation or the

[51:41] person

[51:42] this ability to stay with the situation

[51:44] as it is to see the inter being nature

[51:46] of all things means that they are free

[51:48] from the notions of being a non-being

[51:50] and the notions of birth and death that

[51:52] depend on the notions of being a

[51:54] non-being and they can transform their

[51:55] suffering at the base realizing nirvana

[51:58] according to the udana 8.3 there is

[52:01] bikus the unborn the non-being the

[52:04] non-made the non-conditioned to be a way

[52:06] out for the born the being the maid the

[52:08] conditioned

[52:09] based on this we can establish five

[52:11] links

[52:12] ignorance

[52:13] birth and death

[52:15] being a non-being

[52:16] doer and inheritor of action conditioned

[52:19] and unconditioned from the positive

[52:21] point of view wisdom takes us beyond

[52:23] birth and death and ideas of being a

[52:25] non-being there is no longer a separate

[52:27] self who owns the body and mind and

[52:30] performs actions and receives the

[52:31] results of those actions

[52:33] nor are there formations that lie

[52:35] outside of each other there is not a

[52:37] conditioned world that is separate from

[52:39] the world of conditioning when we see

[52:41] deeply the condition we are in touch

[52:42] with the unconditioned in short there

[52:45] can be many ways of presenting

[52:46] interdependent co-arising that can help

[52:48] us be in touch with right view and the

[52:50] best way of presenting it is a

[52:52] non-linear way that shows how every link

[52:54] is linked to all the others

[52:56] simultaneously

[52:57] there is no link that can be there

[52:59] before the others the greatest advantage

[53:01] of the ten or the five links as

[53:03] described is that being a non-being are

[53:06] one and the same link

[53:08] as our birth and death for as long as we

[53:10] have the idea of being we have to have

[53:12] the idea of non-being and when the

[53:14] buddha said being he always meant

[53:16] non-being as well as in the katya

[53:18] yanagotra sutra when the buddha says

[53:21] that right view is the right view that

[53:23] transcends being a non-being if we do

[53:25] not make this clear people will continue

[53:27] to think that being is the culprit that

[53:29] makes us suffer birth old age and death

[53:32] being a nun being our ideas in our head

[53:34] just as birth and death are ideas they

[53:37] are not objective realities and it is

[53:39] the ideas we have to transcend if we

[53:41] want to experience nirvana

[53:48] if you want to learn one thing about

[53:50] buddhism you need to

[53:52] study the lack of separateness between

[53:54] all things and i love the word tiknot

[53:56] han uses continuity because i think that

[53:58] that's a wonderfully relatable word that

[54:01] we can bring into our daily activities

[54:04] we can see the continuity of all things

[54:08] see that without the sun the soil the

[54:10] gardener the flower could never exist

[54:13] but that that these things enter are

[54:16] there is no separation of them and in

[54:18] this way it's it's not links it's a web

[54:20] it's a net

[54:22] when one thing dies another thing is

[54:24] born and this is the continuity of all

[54:26] things so this chapter really drives

[54:28] that point home and tiknot han is really

[54:31] reinventing a normal way of

[54:33] understanding this teaching and that's

[54:34] why this chapter is so long and so rich

[54:37] so this is really a chapter to listen to

[54:40] or to read again and again so that it

[54:42] can help you with right view and right

[54:44] understanding

[54:45] but this chapter

[54:47] is really bringing all other chapters

[54:50] that we have read so far together so

[54:52] it's important not just to read this

[54:54] chapter alone but to see it as the

[54:57] culmination of all of the teachings that

[54:59] we have gone through so far so that's

[55:01] why it's such an important ending

[55:03] chapter

[55:04] the last chapter is short i hope you'll

[55:06] stay with me for our final practice

[55:08] which i'm really looking forward to

[55:10] sharing with you

[55:13] touching the buddha within

[55:15] in 1968 i was in india with samdek maha

[55:18] gosananda a leader of cambodian buddhism

[55:21] and sister chong kong my dear student

[55:23] friend and colleague

[55:24] for several days we sat together on

[55:26] vulture peak until sunset and i realized

[55:28] that in former times the buddha had

[55:30] looked at the same setting sun with the

[55:32] same eyes

[55:33] afterwards we walk down the mountain

[55:35] slowly and mindfully not saying a word

[55:37] and since that day i've continued to

[55:39] walk in the same way vulture peak is

[55:41] beautiful and europe asia africa

[55:43] australia and north and south america

[55:45] are also beautiful

[55:47] when there is mist on the mountains it's

[55:48] beautiful and when there's no mist it's

[55:51] beautiful all four seasons are beautiful

[55:53] you are beautiful and your friends are

[55:55] beautiful there is nothing to stop you

[55:57] from being in touch with life in the

[55:59] present moment the question is do you

[56:01] have eyes that can see the sunset feet

[56:03] that can touch the earth if the buddha

[56:05] were tr to transmit his eyes to you

[56:08] would you know how to use them don't

[56:10] think that happiness will be possible

[56:12] only when conditions around you become

[56:14] perfect

[56:15] happiness lies in your own heart you

[56:18] only need to practice mindful breathing

[56:19] for a second and you'll be happy right

[56:21] away

[56:22] confucius said what greater joy

[56:26] can there be than putting into practice

[56:28] what you have learned

[56:30] sometimes we feel as though we are

[56:31] drowning in the ocean of suffering

[56:33] carrying the burden of all social

[56:34] injustice of all times the buddha said

[56:37] when a wise person suffers she asks

[56:39] herself what can i do to be free from

[56:41] the suffering who can help me what have

[56:44] i done to free myself from this

[56:45] suffering

[56:46] but when a foolish person suffers she

[56:48] asks herself who has wronged me how can

[56:51] i show others that i am the victim of

[56:52] wrongdoing how can i punish those who

[56:54] have caused my suffering

[56:56] why is it that others who have been

[56:57] exposed to the same conditions do not

[57:00] seem to suffer as much as we do you

[57:02] might like to write down the first set

[57:03] of questions and read them every time

[57:06] you are caught in your suffering

[57:08] of course you have the right to suffer

[57:10] but as a practitioner you do not have

[57:12] the right not to practice

[57:15] we all need to be understood and loved

[57:17] but the practice is not merely to expect

[57:19] understanding and love it is to practice

[57:21] understanding and love please don't

[57:23] complain when no one seems to love or

[57:25] understand you

[57:27] make the effort to understand and love

[57:28] them better if someone has betrayed you

[57:31] ask why if you feel that the

[57:33] responsibility lies entirely with them

[57:36] look more deeply perhaps you've watered

[57:38] the seed of betrayal in her perhaps

[57:40] you've lived in a way that has

[57:41] encouraged her to withdraw

[57:43] we are all co-responsible and if you

[57:45] hold on to the attitude of blame the

[57:47] situation will only get worse

[57:50] if you can learn how to water the seed

[57:51] of loyalty in her that seed may flower

[57:53] again

[57:54] look deeply into the nature of your

[57:57] suffering so you will know what to do

[57:58] and what not to do to restore the

[58:00] relationship

[58:01] apply your mindfulness concentration and

[58:03] insight and you will know what nourishes

[58:05] you and what nourishes her practice the

[58:07] first noble truth identifying your

[58:09] suffering the second noble truth see its

[58:12] sources and the third and fourth noble

[58:14] truths finding ways to transform your

[58:16] suffering and realize peace

[58:18] the four noble truths and the noble

[58:20] eightfold path are not theories they are

[58:22] ways of action

[58:24] we begin the practice by seeking meaning

[58:26] for our life we know that we don't want

[58:28] to run after fame money or sensual

[58:30] pleasure and so we learn the art of

[58:32] mindful living in time we develop some

[58:34] understanding and compassion and we find

[58:36] that these things are the energies we

[58:38] can use to alleviate our suffering and

[58:40] the suffering of others

[58:41] this already gives some meaning to our

[58:43] life

[58:44] we continue the practice looking deeply

[58:46] into the five aggregates that comprise

[58:48] the self and we touch the reality of no

[58:50] birth and no death that is in us and in

[58:52] everything

[58:53] this touching brings us the greatest

[58:55] relief it removes all of our fears

[58:57] offers us true wisdom and gives real

[58:59] meaning to our life

[59:01] we need places where we can go to sit

[59:03] breathe quietly and look and listen

[59:04] deeply when we have difficulties at home

[59:07] we need a room like that where we can

[59:08] take refuge we also need parks and other

[59:11] peaceful places where we can practice

[59:13] walking meditation alone and with others

[59:15] educators architects artists legislators

[59:18] businessmen all of us have come together

[59:21] to create spaces where we can practice

[59:23] peace harmony joy and looking

[59:26] there is so much violence in our schools

[59:28] parents teachers and students need to

[59:30] work together to transform the violence

[59:32] schools are not just places for

[59:34] transmitting technical know-how

[59:36] they must also be places where children

[59:38] can learn how to be happy loving and

[59:40] understanding where teachers nourish

[59:42] their students with their own insights

[59:44] and happiness we also need places and

[59:46] hospitals where family members health

[59:48] care workers patients and others can sit

[59:50] breathe and calm themselves we need city

[59:53] halls where responsible people can look

[59:55] deeply into local problems we need

[59:57] congress to be a place where our real

[59:59] problems are truly addressed if you are

[1:00:01] an educator a parent a teacher an

[1:00:04] architect a health care worker a

[1:00:05] politician or a writer

[1:00:07] please help us create the kinds of

[1:00:09] institutions we need for our collective

[1:00:11] awakening

[1:00:12] our legislators need to know how to calm

[1:00:14] themselves and communicate well they

[1:00:16] need to know how to listen and look

[1:00:17] deeply and to use loving speech if we

[1:00:20] elect unhappy people who don't have the

[1:00:22] capacity to make their own families

[1:00:24] happy how can we expect them to make our

[1:00:26] city or our nation happy don't vote for

[1:00:28] someone just because he or she is

[1:00:30] handsome or has a lovely voice we are

[1:00:32] entrusting the fate of our city our

[1:00:35] nation and our lives to such people

[1:00:37] we have to act responsibly we need to

[1:00:39] create communities of deep looking deep

[1:00:42] sharing and real harmony we need to be

[1:00:44] able to make the best kinds of decisions

[1:00:46] together we need peace within and

[1:00:48] without

[1:00:49] the heart of the buddha is in each of us

[1:00:52] when we are mindful the buddha is there

[1:00:54] i know a four-year-old boy who whenever

[1:00:56] he is upset stops what he's doing

[1:00:58] breathes mindfully and tells his mommy

[1:00:59] and daddy i'm touching the buddha within

[1:01:02] we need to take care of the healthy

[1:01:04] seeds that are in us by watering them

[1:01:06] every day through the practice of

[1:01:08] mindful breathing mindful walking

[1:01:10] mindfully doing everything

[1:01:12] we need to touch the buddha within us we

[1:01:14] need to enter our own heart which means

[1:01:16] to enter the heart of the buddha

[1:01:19] to enter the heart of the buddha means

[1:01:20] to be present for ourselves our

[1:01:22] suffering our joys and for many others

[1:01:24] to enter the heart of the buddha means

[1:01:26] to touch the world of no birth and no

[1:01:28] death the world where water and wave are

[1:01:30] one when we begin the practice we bring

[1:01:33] our suffering and our habit energies

[1:01:35] with us not just those of 20 or 30 years

[1:01:38] but the habit energies of all of our

[1:01:39] ancestors through the practice of

[1:01:41] mindful living we learn new habits

[1:01:44] walking we know that we are walking

[1:01:45] standing we know that we are standing

[1:01:47] sitting we know that we are sitting

[1:01:49] practicing this way we slowly undo our

[1:01:51] old habits and develop the new habit of

[1:01:53] dwelling deeply and happily in the

[1:01:55] present moment with mindfulness in us we

[1:01:58] can smile a smile that proves our

[1:01:59] transformation the heart of the buddha

[1:02:01] has been touched by our being

[1:02:03] wonderfully together please practice as

[1:02:05] an individual a family a city a nation

[1:02:08] and a worldwide community please take

[1:02:10] good care of the happiness of everyone

[1:02:12] around you enjoy your breathing you're

[1:02:14] smiling you're shining the light of

[1:02:15] mindfulness on each thing that you do

[1:02:18] please practice transformation at the

[1:02:20] base through deep looking and deep

[1:02:22] touching the teachings of the buddha on

[1:02:24] transformation and healing are very deep

[1:02:26] they are not theoretical they can be

[1:02:28] practiced every day

[1:02:30] please practice and and realize them i'm

[1:02:33] confident that you can do it

[1:02:43] you hear my words but they're not coming

[1:02:45] from my mouth they are

[1:02:47] manifesting from your ear consciousness

[1:02:50] into your brain consciousness and then

[1:02:52] your mind consciousness is interpreting

[1:02:55] them

[1:02:58] you are the creator

[1:03:00] the buddha is within you

[1:03:04] if you understand the teachings from the

[1:03:06] last chapter

[1:03:08] this is a pretty easy place to arrive at

[1:03:10] but if you don't quite understand the

[1:03:11] teachings of the last chapter of

[1:03:13] interdependent co-arising this can be

[1:03:15] more challenging but just because it's

[1:03:17] challenging doesn't mean it's impossible

[1:03:19] and in fact as tiknot han tells us

[1:03:22] that challenge may be just the seed that

[1:03:25] you need

[1:03:26] to develop deep rich insight so rather

[1:03:29] than run from the challenge hide the

[1:03:32] challenge disguise the challenge go

[1:03:34] right into the challenge

[1:03:36] and look deeply at it

[1:03:38] and that challenge may be the exact food

[1:03:41] that you need to develop the wisdom that

[1:03:43] will change the world and it's not from

[1:03:45] telling the world that it's to blame

[1:03:48] it's from taking personal responsibility

[1:03:50] and recognizing the web

[1:03:53] the net of life

[1:03:56] we are all gardeners we all have the

[1:03:59] power to water the seeds within each of

[1:04:02] us a thought comes into being and then

[1:04:05] it goes into non-being no a thought is

[1:04:07] not coming from nowhere just like a

[1:04:09] cloud is not coming from nowhere like

[1:04:11] rain is not coming from nowhere and when

[1:04:13] the cloud disappears it doesn't go

[1:04:15] nowhere when we say to look at the mind

[1:04:18] and see the thoughts the emotions the

[1:04:20] feelings like passing clouds

[1:04:23] understand the nature of a cloud and

[1:04:25] apply that to the nature of the thoughts

[1:04:28] to the emotions to the sensations

[1:04:30] the cloud is formed but not from nothing

[1:04:33] the thought arises but not from nowhere

[1:04:36] the cloud goes away but not to nothing

[1:04:39] it continues on in a new form and that

[1:04:41] is true for your thoughts your emotions

[1:04:44] and your sensations so we have to

[1:04:46] recognize the gardener within us i'm a

[1:04:48] terrible gardener a brown thumb i barely

[1:04:50] can grow a thing it's like i'm only if

[1:04:52] i'm in a good part of the world will

[1:04:54] things grow for me but if i'm in a place

[1:04:56] where things take effort to grow then i

[1:04:58] do a terrible job but just because i may

[1:05:00] not be able to grow food well doesn't

[1:05:02] mean that i cannot on a daily basis

[1:05:05] water the seeds of love and compassion

[1:05:07] inside of myself and then inside of

[1:05:10] other people

[1:05:11] i feel so emotional because

[1:05:14] these teachings are so rich but they are

[1:05:16] enough to change all of mankind if we

[1:05:19] stop looking out and blaming other

[1:05:21] people watching the news fervently like

[1:05:23] oh look at this politician or that

[1:05:25] politician or this policy or that policy

[1:05:27] and if we start looking at how we are

[1:05:29] responsible for the world that we live

[1:05:31] in and then we make those changes inside

[1:05:33] of ourselves

[1:05:34] don't give love only to them and not to

[1:05:36] them don't give understanding only to

[1:05:38] them and not to them give it to everyone

[1:05:41] because you are not separate from them

[1:05:43] you are one with them and so every time

[1:05:45] you give understanding to someone who in

[1:05:47] the past you wouldn't have given to it

[1:05:49] to

[1:05:50] you grow you bloom you blossom and that

[1:05:53] is beyond important for changing our

[1:05:56] world right now at a crucial time where

[1:05:58] change is so needed

[1:06:02] let's sit together let's let's practice

[1:06:05] like tiknot han has invited us to do

[1:06:06] let's sit together and practice

[1:06:09] just a short

[1:06:11] meditation

[1:06:12] wherever you are

[1:06:14] you can sit you can lie down you can

[1:06:16] walk

[1:06:17] you can just breathe just be where you

[1:06:19] are and and get bigger take up more

[1:06:22] space

[1:06:23] not in this selfish egoic way like

[1:06:26] aren't i great aren't i wonderful

[1:06:28] but in this way that says i am

[1:06:31] change i am transformation i am buddha

[1:06:37] get bigger in this way

[1:06:40] get wiser in this way

[1:06:42] and then

[1:06:44] drop into

[1:06:45] yourself just breathe

[1:06:57] just breathe a few moments here just

[1:06:59] breathing

[1:07:07] the breath comes comes from somewhere

[1:07:09] it's not coming from nowhere it goes

[1:07:12] it goes somewhere it's not going nowhere

[1:07:15] and just feel that experience for a few

[1:07:17] moments here in silence as you allow

[1:07:20] this

[1:07:21] energy of the mental body and the

[1:07:24] physical body to soften

[1:07:40] take a moment to acknowledge

[1:07:42] the good things you have done in this

[1:07:44] world

[1:07:48] bring some memories up

[1:07:51] times that you've been generous

[1:07:53] patient

[1:07:54] loving compassionate

[1:07:56] wise

[1:07:58] really savor it

[1:08:00] see the wisdom that you have inside of

[1:08:02] yourself take a few moments now and

[1:08:05] revel in some memories

[1:08:08] maybe they just happened where these

[1:08:10] things naturally have moved through you

[1:08:13] generosity compassion patience wisdom

[1:08:18] just notice the good you've done in the

[1:08:19] world

[1:08:35] what has being alive taught you

[1:08:43] when has vengeance or hatred

[1:08:46] greed or anger

[1:08:49] helped you

[1:08:59] see those times too you know we've

[1:09:02] all been generous patient loving we've

[1:09:05] all been angry

[1:09:07] hateful spiteful

[1:09:12] notice

[1:09:12] and acknowledge both of those sides in

[1:09:14] you

[1:09:15] and then look deeply

[1:09:18] which is the side that truly helps you

[1:09:21] and others live a joyful life what has

[1:09:25] life taught you

[1:09:53] see that you contain the seeds of

[1:09:56] gratitude

[1:09:57] of loving kindness

[1:09:59] of joy

[1:10:03] be joyful

[1:10:07] be joyful right now

[1:10:10] smile right now and feel this

[1:10:15] joy maybe you take a deep breath in

[1:10:19] followed by a deep breath out

[1:10:23] you are okay right now

[1:10:26] you are here listening to the words of

[1:10:28] the dharma you've been led here to this

[1:10:32] life

[1:10:34] you have a precious human life and you

[1:10:37] have been blessed to find this path

[1:10:46] be a witness to your good luck

[1:10:48] be a witness to your good luck

[1:10:55] for some reason

[1:10:57] you have incurred this merit this luck

[1:11:00] and for that reason you are here right

[1:11:03] now listening to these teachings this is

[1:11:06] your good karma feel this joy smile and

[1:11:10] feel this joy

[1:11:17] you are so blessed

[1:11:22] you are so special

[1:11:24] you have so much to give just breathe

[1:11:27] and feel that just breathe and know that

[1:11:40] you

[1:11:42] beautiful

[1:11:43] special

[1:11:44] perfect you have given your time to

[1:11:47] listen to these teachings

[1:11:50] teachings other people

[1:11:52] may never even think about because you

[1:11:55] have

[1:11:56] love

[1:11:57] compassion and joy

[1:11:59] within you

[1:12:01] yearning to come out

[1:12:07] you are an incredibly prosperous person

[1:12:20] just take a moment to feel how lucky you

[1:12:22] are

[1:12:24] to study to learn to listen

[1:12:27] and to hear these words of the buddha

[1:12:30] through these words of tiknot han

[1:12:34] read from my mouth

[1:12:37] and manifesting in your mind

[1:12:40] feel your luck your joy smile be with

[1:12:43] your breath

[1:12:45] feel the magic of your life

[1:12:58] feel the beat of your heart

[1:13:02] experience the magic of your life

[1:13:05] you are a precious human being

[1:13:25] you are a precious human being who has

[1:13:28] so much to give

[1:13:31] don't hold

[1:13:32] back

[1:13:33] don't hold back

[1:13:36] give love

[1:13:38] give joy

[1:13:39] give understanding acceptance

[1:13:42] compassion

[1:13:44] give freely and endlessly

[1:13:47] what you have inside of you

[1:13:53] just be with your breath

[1:13:56] just here breathing

[1:13:58] smiling

[1:14:00] experiencing your wonderful magical life

[1:14:07] i'm going to leave you with my

[1:14:09] favorite poem

[1:14:10] by zongzi just listen just breathe and

[1:14:13] listen just be here and listen

[1:14:19] do not seek fame

[1:14:23] do not make plans

[1:14:27] do not be absorbed by activities

[1:14:32] do not think that you know

[1:14:36] be aware of all that is

[1:14:38] and dwell in the infinite

[1:14:42] wander where there is no path

[1:14:46] be all that heaven gave you

[1:14:48] but act as though you have received

[1:14:50] nothing

[1:14:53] be empty

[1:14:56] that is all

[1:15:20] we're called

[1:15:23] we are called we are called

[1:15:25] we are needed and necessary

[1:15:29] and the work is not without it is within

[1:15:33] and when we use the buddhist teachings

[1:15:36] to understand that remember we don't

[1:15:37] have to give up our religions we don't

[1:15:39] have to give up our our current values

[1:15:41] or our friendships we just have to

[1:15:44] practice

[1:15:45] these methods of overcoming the

[1:15:47] afflictions of the mind so that we can

[1:15:50] experience nirvana in this moment just

[1:15:52] think when you feel good everyone around

[1:15:54] you feels good

[1:15:56] be that

[1:15:58] just be that

[1:16:00] and forget about the rest

[1:16:04] thank you for those of you who have been

[1:16:06] here all along for those of you who have

[1:16:08] come in and out

[1:16:10] for those of you who are here for the

[1:16:11] first time

[1:16:12] for those of you who

[1:16:14] i sit with live

[1:16:16] or who watch in the recordings

[1:16:19] thank you

[1:16:21] without you there could be no me and

[1:16:24] vice versa so we are so blessed to be

[1:16:27] here together recognizing the net that

[1:16:30] keeps us connected and our

[1:16:32] interdependent nature i really

[1:16:36] am so grateful to have experienced this

[1:16:39] because selfishly for me the teachings

[1:16:42] have really deepened in my own heart and

[1:16:44] my practices have really

[1:16:46] blossomed even more as a result so i

[1:16:49] really appreciate

[1:16:50] your presence and you're allowing me to

[1:16:52] experience that through through you

[1:16:55] so um i just want to say i'm just about

[1:16:57] to start this very big project on friday

[1:16:59] i'm

[1:17:00] hosting a 200 hour yoga teacher training

[1:17:02] in the

[1:17:04] in the area that i

[1:17:05] am at right now in the world i i live

[1:17:07] part-time in california part-time in um

[1:17:10] the caribbean island of bonaire and

[1:17:11] part-time in

[1:17:12] in holland and so we're here in

[1:17:14] california right now i'm hosting this

[1:17:17] yoga teacher training it's 200 hours

[1:17:18] it's

[1:17:19] over the next 11 weeks so i'm it's the

[1:17:22] first time i'm doing it i'm just sort of

[1:17:23] anticipating how much effort is going to

[1:17:25] go into it in terms of planning on a

[1:17:27] daily basis this kind of thing and so

[1:17:29] i'm going to pause book club for a

[1:17:30] couple of weeks as i identify

[1:17:32] um how

[1:17:34] you know

[1:17:35] free my time feels and then once i feel

[1:17:38] settled into the process it's feeling

[1:17:40] pretty good right now not that you all

[1:17:42] want to hear all of this but it's

[1:17:43] feeling pretty good right now so um

[1:17:46] i think it's it's going to come back

[1:17:47] online very soon so then i'll be

[1:17:49] starting with the next edition of book

[1:17:50] club i'm still deciding what book to

[1:17:52] pick you know i vacillate between this

[1:17:54] idea of picking like a very popular sort

[1:17:57] of modern new age book versus a less

[1:17:59] popular

[1:18:01] deeper transmission of the buddhist

[1:18:03] teachings i personally prefer that but i

[1:18:06] think you know i want it to be very

[1:18:08] accessible for people so if you want to

[1:18:10] connect with me and share an idea for a

[1:18:12] book that you have just please know that

[1:18:13] i would love that and in general i would

[1:18:15] love to connect with you

[1:18:17] and yes um thank you so much for sharing

[1:18:20] this time with me as i said if you want

[1:18:22] to connect with me you can contact me

[1:18:24] i think through insight timer it's a

[1:18:26] more challenging contact i i kind of

[1:18:28] still am learning the navigation of it

[1:18:30] otherwise i'm on the social medias the

[1:18:33] ones that you can think of um these

[1:18:35] recordings are also up on insight timer

[1:18:37] and then they're also on my personal

[1:18:38] youtube channel um and i have a website

[1:18:41] that you can go to i'm not supposed to

[1:18:43] plug it here but just know my name is

[1:18:44] sarahsauti and you can find me

[1:18:48] you can find me so find me if you want

[1:18:50] to and connect with me if you feel like

[1:18:51] it know that i love that and if you feel

[1:18:53] like you have a book that you think

[1:18:54] would be cool

[1:18:56] just know i'm still in the selection

[1:18:57] process and i really loved this so i'm

[1:18:59] definitely going to be doing it again

[1:19:03] otherwise we've gone long today that's

[1:19:05] okay because it's our last session

[1:19:07] thank you so much

[1:19:09] for being here i hope you have a

[1:19:10] beautiful remainder of your week

[1:19:13] i hope you just have a beautiful life i

[1:19:15] hope that these teachings move you and

[1:19:18] and transform you

[1:19:20] as they have for me

[1:19:21] and until next time live mindfully be

[1:19:24] well

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Interdependent co-arising, or pratityasamutpada, is the teaching that nothing arises on its own and that cause and effect arise together. Sarah Sati, reading Thich Nhat Hanh, explains that every effect is also a cause of something else, so there is no single first cause.
The table example shows that a simple object depends on wood, a forest, sunshine, rain, a carpenter, and the carpenter's own conditions. Following these chains outward, the text argues, reveals that everything in the cosmos has come together to produce the table.
Sati says it asks the mind to look past ordinary before-and-after thinking and see experience as a single web. She argues that when experience is seen this way, ignorance has no footing.
Sati presents chapter 28 as an inspiration: the words you hear are processed through your ears, brain, and mind to produce your conscious experience. She concludes that you are the creator and the Buddha, while acknowledging the capacity to reach this may take effort if the previous chapter was not understood.
The Theravada commentator Buddhaghosa, in the Visuddhimagga, listed 24 kinds of conditions, the necessary and sufficient factors for something to arise. The list includes root cause, object, predominance, karma, karma result, nutriment, and non-disappearance, among others.
No. Sati said in episode 11 that she would not be giving more homework, and suggested listeners pick one earlier practice and work with it alone for months at a time if it helps.
Sati's BookClub reads the book chapter by chapter, and episode 11 covers chapters 27 and 28, which explore the twelve links of interdependent origination. Reading slowly alongside the recordings, as she suggests, is one way to work through it.

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