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Finding the Guru: OneWesterner's Journey to India

Be Here Now Network
Be Here Now Network
Sep 21, 2026
7 min de lecture
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By 1967, a Harvard professor and LSD researcher had arrived at a sobering realization: the psychedelic door opened only so far. He'd taken massive doses—thousands of micrograms standing in the ocean at midnight, programming elaborate sessions with slides of Venus and the Mona Lisa, cataloging his demons and his gods. He'd gone deep. But he hadn't gone far enough, and he knew it. "I was in some kind of an asymptotic curve," he would later explain, "that no matter how hard I got, I wasn't going to get there." The insight was terrifying and clarifying: the method itself had a ceiling. What came next?

This is the origin story of a spiritual pilgrimage that would reshape Western consciousness and birth a legacy still alive today. It is also the story of a decision made in a restaurant in India—a single moment that changed everything. What makes it worth telling now, forty years on, is how ordinary its beginning was. The subject had read the Eastern books, quoted them, lectured from them. But he hadn't understood a single word. His friends had gone to India and come back unchanged. There was no reason to believe this trip would be any different. Yet it was.

Lecture · 5 sections

The Limit of the Chemical Path

The despair was real. By the mid-1960s, psychedelics had been systematized, studied, programmed, and optimized. Meditation cushions sat beside slide projectors. Sessions were designed with the precision of laboratory experiments, each one intended to crack open a new dimension of consciousness. The work was rigorous, the experiences were profound, but something crucial was missing: not the breakthrough, but the *staying*. How did you live it? How did you integrate it? How did you bring it into the body, into relationship, into the world? The substance itself offered no answer. "I appreciated the fact that I didn't know enough to stay high with this method," he said later. "And I looked about me at all my colleagues and I realized that they did not know enough either."

Despair became the honest next step. It meant the chemical wasn't the key after all—it was a door, but he had no map of what lay beyond it. So he did what seekers have always done when they exhaust one method: he went East.

The Tour That Wasn't a Pilgrimage

The journey began with style. A wealthy friend—who had left a six-figure executive position at thirty-five to pursue Buddhism, complete with a $5 million nest egg—shipped a Land Rover camper into Tehran. They outfitted it with bottled water, special canned goods, mattresses lofted above the cab, and loaded it with Vivaldi tapes and Indian classical music. They weren't roughing it. They were cushioned, and in many ways, this was the problem.

They traveled through Kashmir, water-skiing on Lake Dal. They made a pilgrimage to Amarnath Cave—a sacred site reached by barefoot pilgrims over icepack and snow—but they came with six saddle ponies, two women from Berkeley, a bottle of brandy, and a chef. They took photographs. They recorded street musicians on tape, played the recordings back to astonished singers, handed out Polaroids. They were tourists with spiritual aspirations, and on some level, they knew it. "A pickpocket meets a saint and sees only his pockets," a teacher would later tell him. He hadn't known a holy man if one had walked up with a sign. The interpreters didn't really believe in holy men anyway—or did they? It was hard to say. The trip was beautiful, groovy, filled with 1,300 slides and the ambient music of another world. But it was not what was meant to happen.

In Benares, he took LSD among the pilgrims dying in states of "high ecstasy," and the contrast shattered something in him. These people were *here*, fully present in the shadow of death. He still had his traveler's checks. He still saw himself as someone on a trip, doing a trip, being a trip. The method that had seemed so powerful now felt hollow by comparison. The despair deepened.

The Meeting in the Restaurant

It was in this state of growing hopelessness—after months of searching, after visiting caves and holy men and sacred sites—that everything turned on a chance encounter. At a restaurant in India, he met a young Westerner. It was someone he'd given LSD to years before, a man who'd gone from running his own company to becoming a Buddhist. The man was quiet about his spiritual life, uninterested in the tourist pilgrimage, seemingly indifferent to the whole enterprise. Yet something in his presence suggested he *knew* something. "He just felt presence," the seeker remembered later. "I had never missed anything like that before."

The Westerner invited him to travel further, to go see someone he'd heard about: a saint named Neem Karoli Baba, known locally as Maharaj-ji. There was no grand pitch, no sales job. Just an invitation. And something—intuition, grace, the sheer exhaustion of the search—made him say yes.

The Moment That Opened Everything

They drove to meet the guru in a Land Rover. As they approached, the old saint—about three feet away from him, standing with big eyes and a blanket wrapped around him—suddenly yelled out a question: "Got a question?" It was a challenge, a test, a breaking of the formal distance. But the seeker found that when he looked at Maharaj-ji, the entire architecture of his seeking collapsed. There was nothing left to ask. The thought of touching his feet—an act of devotion and surrender—became overwhelming. "The thought of touching his feet is too much," he would say later. "It's like touching the sun. And I just feel all warm and loving. And who has questions? I mean, what a drag to have questions."

This was the moment. Not the insight—there was no intellectual breakthrough. Not the experience—it wasn't a chemical rush or a meditative state. It was recognition. It was the meeting of a student with a teacher who knew, who embodied, who *was* something he had been seeking without knowing its name. In that moment, all the years of studying Eastern books without understanding them, all the sessions with psychedelics, all the miles traveled through India as a tourist—all of it became the necessary path to this single moment of grace.

He had found his guru. And his guru, it would become clear, had been waiting for him all along.

Why This Story Still Matters

This is not just a personal anecdote. It is the hinge point of a cultural shift. The seeker was Ram Dass, formerly Richard Alpert, a pioneer in consciousness research who would spend the rest of his life translating the teachings of Neem Karoli Baba for the West. His book *Be Here Now*, published three years later, would introduce millions to a path that integrated the insights of the psychedelic era with the ancient wisdom of Hindu devotion. But none of that follows without the restaurant meeting, without the willingness to trust a quiet presence, without the humility of standing in front of a guru and having nothing left to say.

The story teaches something that no amount of reading or programming or seeking can provide: that the spiritual path is not a solo climb. It requires guides. It requires grace. It requires, above all, the willingness to recognize when you've reached the limit of your method and to remain open to what comes next—even if it arrives in the form of an old man in a blanket asking if you have any questions.

Transcript

[0:05] So, we get into the Land Rover and we go

[0:07] to see Maharaji and I'm just approaching

[0:09] him. I'm about

[0:11] oh 5 yards away and he yells at me,

[0:15] "Got a question."

[0:18] Well, I take one look at him and I don't

[0:20] have any questions. I just want to fall

[0:22] out and touch his feet.

[0:25] You dig that? It's like [laughter]

[0:28] >> I mean the thought of touching his feet

[0:29] is too much. It's like touching the sun

[0:32] and I just feel all warm and loving and

[0:35] who has questions? I mean what a drag

[0:37] their questions.

[0:43] >> Welcome to Here and Now with Rahm Doss.

[0:46] This is episode 33

[0:50] touching the sun. So this is an early

[0:53] one. It's 1969 and it's at the Eselin

[0:57] Institute in California. And just two

[1:00] years earlier, Ramdas had this powerful

[1:05] LSD journey. And that method of

[1:08] psychedelics, it had gotten him

[1:10] someplace so real, but he wanted to know

[1:13] how to live it, how to integrate it, how

[1:16] to bring it into his life. So he did

[1:19] what you do when you don't know what to

[1:21] do. He hit the road. He went to India.

[1:26] And this lecture is the story of that

[1:29] first trip. It's the sacred caves, the

[1:32] holy men, and this growing sense that

[1:36] maybe he's not going to find the person

[1:38] that can teach him. And then just as the

[1:42] disappointment is setting in, he meets a

[1:45] young westerner and it is a decision

[1:48] that changes everything. It changes his

[1:51] life. and you might even argue changes a

[1:54] culture. This is the origin story. And

[1:58] if it resonates with you, then we invite

[2:01] you to join us in our upcoming legacy

[2:06] immersion. It's four weeks of sitting

[2:09] around a fire and hearing all of the old

[2:12] stories of how people's hearts and minds

[2:15] got blown and then what they did after.

[2:18] It starts September 28th.

[2:21] It's completely free. So come sit around

[2:24] the fire with us. Go to romdos.org/fire

[2:28] to learn more. Ramdas.org/fire.

[2:33] And with that, [music] here is Ramdos

[2:35] here and now.

[2:44] >> [music]

[2:45] >> This is Ramdas

[2:47] and the show is called Here and Now

[2:50] [music] with Ramdas.

[2:57] [music]

[2:59] Well, by 1967,

[3:01] I appreciated the fact that I didn't

[3:04] know enough to stay high with this

[3:07] method.

[3:09] And I looked about me at all my

[3:11] colleagues and I realized that they did

[3:13] not know enough either.

[3:19] And I started to experience considerable

[3:21] despair. I mean this is the second round

[3:23] now when I end up the chapter saying we

[3:26] don't know.

[3:28] We don't know. We don't know enough.

[3:30] We've touched it but we don't know.

[3:35] And I had more LSD but what was I going

[3:37] to do? I tried programming sessions. I

[3:39] take huge doses standing in the ocean in

[3:42] the middle of the night to deal with the

[3:43] forces of jungles and ocean.

[3:46] I'd take I mean I'd take a standing in

[3:49] my head. I didn't care. Whatever. I'd

[3:51] program this and I'd have tapes and

[3:53] slide and you know I'd go through a

[3:56] session to understand my sexual things

[3:58] with women.

[4:01] I was coming out of a long sexual

[4:03] hang-up period of all kinds of

[4:05] perversity. And I'd have big slides of

[4:08] the Mona Lisa and Venus on the half

[4:10] shell and you know all of my women in my

[4:14] life and I'd shine these slides on with

[4:16] thousands of micrograms of acid and I go

[4:18] into their pores and I would Oh wow.

[4:29] And there were horrible sessions and

[4:31] beautiful sessions. And there were

[4:33] 10,000 horrible demons and 10,000

[4:35] beautiful demons. And I was trying to

[4:37] embrace every one of them.

[4:39] And I felt I was getting very old and

[4:41] wise, but not old and wise enough fast

[4:44] enough.

[4:45] And I saw that I was in some kind of an

[4:48] asmtoic curve that no matter how hard I

[4:50] got, I wasn't going to get there. At

[4:52] least I wasn't. I didn't know about

[4:54] anybody else, but something in me said,

[4:56] "This isn't going to be enough."

[4:59] Now um

[5:03] what do you do at that point? See, um,

[5:06] one of the things to do is go to the

[5:07] east,

[5:09] but the problem was that a lot of my

[5:11] friends had gone to the east and I had

[5:13] read a lot of the eastern books

[5:16] and it just I read them, I talked from

[5:20] them, I lectured from them, I quoted

[5:22] from them,

[5:24] but it was like,

[5:28] well, the fact of the matter is, you've

[5:29] got to understand there are no secrets

[5:31] at all.

[5:33] The only secrets are in the eyes of the

[5:35] perceiver. It's all available. I mean, I

[5:38] read the same books I'm reading now, and

[5:40] I now realize I didn't understand a word

[5:42] of them.

[5:44] And I was lecturing from I can imagine

[5:46] what's going to be like 5 years from

[5:47] now.

[5:54] And my friends came back from India and

[5:56] they still seemed to be the same guys

[5:57] that went to India.

[6:01] And they said, "We met a lot of pundits,

[6:03] a lot of good men,

[6:06] but nothing really that, you know,

[6:08] didn't happen."

[6:12] So, I didn't really expect that was

[6:13] going to do much for me.

[6:16] But I didn't have much else to do. And

[6:17] along came a a very interesting guy who

[6:20] I had turned on a few years previously.

[6:26] He went to um

[6:29] University of Chicago at about 14 and a

[6:31] half and he got his international law

[6:33] degree around 21 and he was teaching at

[6:35] the UN

[6:37] around 24 and he was like uh

[6:41] started his own company when he was 27

[6:44] and he sold it to Xerox and became an

[6:46] executive when he was 34 and then at 35

[6:49] he took his $5 million and retired to

[6:51] become a Buddhist.

[6:55] and he was now ready to go to the east.

[6:58] So he had a Land Rover shipped into

[7:00] Tehran

[7:03] from England, a Land Rover camper with

[7:05] all kinds of bottled water and special

[7:07] canned goods and mattresses upstairs.

[7:11] And

[7:12] we set out on our western journey to the

[7:15] east to look for holy men.

[7:20] Well, it's hard to find holy men in the

[7:22] inside of a Land Rover,

[7:25] but it was sure nice in there. There was

[7:28] sort of like a thick haze of um hashish

[7:32] smoke

[7:34] out of which one saw the passing masses

[7:37] of India

[7:43] and we had tapes of Valdi's

[7:47] you know

[7:50] guitar and

[7:52] loot from

[7:57] Ohhead Indian music too. Of course,

[8:00] those times when we would do our Indian

[8:02] thing

[8:05] and we did all the things, you know, I

[8:07] mean like we got to Kashmir and we

[8:09] besides we stayed at Lake Dal in a boat

[8:12] and did water skiing but besides that we

[8:15] went on a holy man pilgrimage to

[8:16] Armenath cave which is a very very high

[8:19] cave a cave from the last yuga actually

[8:22] and we went up with uh all the holy men

[8:25] go barefoot. It's up over the ice caps.

[8:28] It's way way up. It's about a three-day

[8:30] walk.

[8:32] And we went with um

[8:36] six saddle ponies and two chicks from

[8:39] Berkeley

[8:41] and a bottle of brandy and a chef.

[8:48] And uh when we'd meet holy men, we'd get

[8:50] down off of our things and we'd have a

[8:53] pipe with them and exchanged

[8:56] namaste.

[8:59] And we got to Arnath Cave and it was

[9:01] raining and I looked at it and it was

[9:02] like a big cave.

[9:06] It was interesting cuz there was an ice

[9:08] lingum in there, a fallus that is made

[9:11] of ice that as the moon changes its

[9:13] course each month, the lingum grows to a

[9:15] huge height and then it melts down

[9:17] again.

[9:19] That's pretty turny. But we got there

[9:20] and the lingum was very uh

[9:30] and we went to have the darian of the

[9:31] Daly Lama Darmsa and it was very

[9:34] pleasant.

[9:40] But if uh my teacher later told me, he

[9:43] said a great thing. He said um a

[9:46] pickpocket meets a pickpocket meets a

[9:48] saint. He sees only his pockets.

[9:59] >> I wouldn't have known a holy man if I

[10:01] tripped over him.

[10:03] He came up with a sign saying I am a

[10:05] holy man. I guess I would have listened,

[10:06] you know. They they all spoke some other

[10:08] language anyway, you know. And our

[10:11] interpreters didn't really believe there

[10:13] were holy men around anyway. Really,

[10:15] they did and they didn't. I mean, for

[10:17] our purposes, they did and they didn't.

[10:19] It was a very funny place. Very funny

[10:22] place.

[10:25] Very funny.

[10:27] It was beautiful. I mean, it was a very

[10:29] as as as

[10:32] tours go, it was a beautiful tour. I

[10:34] mean, you know, it was groovy. I took

[10:36] 1,300 slides

[10:39] and I have many tapes of beautiful

[10:42] music.

[10:43] Here's some street singers playing. We'd

[10:45] stop and I'd take out my tape recorder

[10:47] and that would blow all their minds and

[10:49] I'd bring it up and they'd play for me

[10:51] and I'd play it back for them and I I'd

[10:54] take pictures and then I'd take pictures

[10:55] of my Polaroid land camera and give them

[10:57] a picture. It was a strictly western,

[10:59] you know, I was doing my western

[11:08] went to the burning gods because Alan

[11:10] Ginsburg said don't miss the burning

[11:11] gods

[11:13] Bernaris

[11:15] and I took LSD in Bonaris and I really

[11:19] scared myself

[11:21] because I suddenly was looking into the

[11:23] eyes of all these people who are just

[11:25] waiting to die in high states of ecstasy

[11:29] and they're really here

[11:32] and I realized I wasn't n't that much

[11:33] here. I still had my travelers checked,

[11:38] you know, and I still had my image of

[11:41] myself as somebody on a trip,

[11:44] right?

[11:45] And I got uptight. It was a little too

[11:47] much for me. So, I went and hid in the

[11:49] hotel.

[11:55] And then I got went out later when the

[11:57] um after I got into another stage of

[11:59] this trip and I went and stood in the

[12:01] middle of the burning guy where they

[12:02] were burning the bodies

[12:04] and uh

[12:10] it was much.

[12:16] So I'm not saying that nothing had

[12:18] happened during those first months of

[12:20] travel, but that was all in a way

[12:22] preparation.

[12:23] And I had this little bottle of LSD, you

[12:25] see, and every time I'd meet a quote

[12:27] holy man, I'd give him some LSD

[12:30] and I'd say, uh, we'd get talking

[12:33] through an interpreter often. I'd say,

[12:34] "Would you try this

[12:37] and let me know what it's like?"

[12:39] And they would give me reactions back

[12:41] that were very much like the ones I got

[12:43] in the West. One guy would say, "It gave

[12:45] me a headache."

[12:47] Another one would say, "Um,

[12:50] it's not as good as meditation." Another

[12:53] one would say uh wow man where can I get

[12:55] some more.

[12:58] Finally I arrived um at um Kmandu Nepal

[13:07] and I was getting into deep despair

[13:10] because there was really nothing much

[13:12] else to do. I had just done my Indian

[13:15] trip.

[13:17] We were now planning to go on to Japan,

[13:19] leave the Land Rover,

[13:22] and nothing had happened.

[13:27] And the despair was very, very, very

[13:30] deep.

[13:34] One thing I really wanted was a mala.

[13:36] This is a mala, holy beads.

[13:39] And one day I was sitting in a hippie

[13:41] restaurant and a a Tibetan llama came in

[13:43] and he said uh he was selling his his

[13:45] mala which was very far out cuz they're

[13:48] so the Tibetans are so hard up

[13:50] financially.

[13:51] They are really they need money so badly

[13:55] that he even had to sell his mala for

[13:59] for the team.

[14:03] And I um

[14:07] I asked how much he wanted for it and he

[14:09] said he wanted um whatever I wanted to

[14:12] give. So I said I wanted to give 30

[14:13] rupees

[14:15] which was about $45 and he said that was

[14:18] too much. He only wanted 15 rupees but I

[14:21] said he said I could give whatever I

[14:22] wanted and I insisted on giving 30

[14:24] rupees. So that's that Jewish trait in

[14:28] me of you know if you buy it really it's

[14:30] like okay because I knew you really

[14:33] aren't supposed to buy malas it's

[14:35] supposed to be bestowed upon you

[14:38] and then I had this mala

[14:41] and I really dug it see I mean I was

[14:43] really a holy man I had this mala

[14:48] much later when I was uh on another part

[14:50] of the journey I'll tell you about in a

[14:51] moment I was sitting in a tea stand at

[14:54] sarnet

[14:55] And now I was really using the Mer. See,

[14:57] and the mer was a beautiful mala. And it

[14:59] had a dorgy and a

[15:02] ga, a bell and a thunder lightning bolt

[15:05] on it. And it was a beautiful, beautiful

[15:08] mala. And an old Tibetan llama came into

[15:11] the tea stand and we said, "Come sit

[15:13] down." And he sat down. He looked at me

[15:14] and he says, "Um, mala."

[15:19] Said, "Yeah." He said, "Uh, Tibeti

[15:22] mala."

[15:24] Yeah, let me see. Gave it to him. He

[15:27] says,

[15:29] "Lama mala."

[15:32] Yeah, I was very pleased. I mean, it

[15:35] meant I had really gotten the the real

[15:36] thing. I mean, it's like [laughter] I

[15:38] hadn't gotten just a phony. He wasn't a

[15:40] phony llama selling. He didn't have

[15:42] thousands of them outside selling.

[15:46] He says, he looks at me, he says,

[15:48] [clears throat] "You know llama."

[15:52] I said, "No,

[15:56] I llama I keep."

[16:05] So I got a pipe

[16:09] and I held up my hand and he put it back

[16:11] in my hand and I looked at my friend who

[16:14] was had been in India for many years for

[16:16] some guidance and he was looking away.

[16:18] He was going to have anything to do with

[16:19] it.

[16:21] And I sweated this one out and I

[16:23] thought, how can I keep it?

[16:26] I mean, what are possessions and so on?

[16:28] But I really want it.

[16:32] Well, he must be teaching me something.

[16:34] He was sent to teach me something. Okay.

[16:36] And I gave it to him and he thanked me

[16:38] and got up and split. And I hated him.

[16:39] Oh, did I?

[16:48] My friend turned to me and said, "You

[16:49] didn't have to do that. He hustles

[16:50] everybody. [laughter]

[17:02] >> Now we're back in Nepal and I'm sitting

[17:05] with my friend in the Blue Tibetan

[17:08] restaurant

[17:09] which is a hippie hangout

[17:12] sitting with some French hippies.

[17:15] And in walks this guy and he's about 6'7

[17:18] and he's got blonde long blonde hair and

[17:20] a long blonde beard and he's barefoot

[17:22] and he's wearing white cloth. And the

[17:26] only thing that's noticeable about him

[17:28] is that he's very tall, 6'7

[17:30] and he's a westerner. And he comes over

[17:32] and he sits down at our table

[17:38] and within about 2 minutes we sense this

[17:41] guy is very very special.

[17:44] The quality I can describe in him is he

[17:47] knows.

[17:49] Everybody else you meet, you look into

[17:51] their eyes like, "Do you know?"

[17:54] Well, I I practically know. Do you know?

[17:57] And everybody's always got that little

[17:59] questioning thing, you know? You know,

[18:04] but he didn't. There wasn't any of that.

[18:06] He was like a rock, boy. He just he was

[18:08] emitting something, but he knew. And

[18:11] boy, that was the closest I'd ever

[18:12] gotten to something that knew.

[18:15] And so we took him back and snuck him up

[18:17] to our hotel suite,

[18:20] which was hard because it was the king's

[18:21] hotel and very fancy. And they didn't

[18:23] even let the dorman go barefoot. So they

[18:25] weren't going to let the guests go

[18:26] barefoot. We got him up and we had a

[18:28] 5-day seminar

[18:31] in the room on uh hot baths and peach

[18:35] Melba and Hashish and Meascalin and

[18:40] Alexander David Neil and

[18:44] Arthur Avdon

[18:46] and so on.

[18:48] The end of five days I was aware that

[18:50] this guy knew.

[18:56] Now, what was I going to do about this?

[18:57] Because my friend was going on to Japan

[18:59] and I was planning to go with him and

[19:01] that was my first class ticket.

[19:05] And this guy had no bread and he was

[19:07] going back into India on a holy man

[19:09] pilgrimage.

[19:16] And he had been teaching me some mantra.

[19:20] And then one night I was lying in my

[19:22] room and I had a vision of my mother's

[19:26] face. I had never had a vision before

[19:28] when I wasn't under some chemical and I

[19:30] wasn't at that moment that particular

[19:32] day I wasn't.

[19:34] And she had an interesting expression.

[19:36] She had died the previous uh January.

[19:39] She had a pre an interesting expression

[19:41] on her face. It was a an expression she

[19:43] used to get when that in her which was

[19:45] the middle class woman from Boston was

[19:49] disapproving

[19:51] but there was an element in her which

[19:53] was saying go baby go

[19:56] and it was a like a peeved pleased look

[20:01] well I thought that must be a sign of

[20:03] something

[20:05] and then everything felt like I think

[20:07] I'll stay with this guy so I left with

[20:09] him and pretty soon I found myself

[20:10] walking barefoot foot on a temple

[20:13] pilgrimage

[20:16] and you'd walk along the street and

[20:18] people I was now barefoot with white

[20:20] cloth and I was like in my head I was an

[20:22] explorer but people would run out of

[20:24] their stores and touch my feet and say

[20:26] hey Baba Ga and they would come in and

[20:29] have some food and free and and I felt

[20:32] like a complete phony phony holy man

[20:38] and when they touched my feet I wanted

[20:40] to touch their feet and my friend said

[20:42] you don't when you're in the holy man

[20:43] role you don't touch their feet you

[20:45] honor them as if you were touching their

[20:46] feet in your heart and you're exchanging

[20:49] blessing

[20:51] pron okay and he started to teach me in

[20:55] this most interesting way I'd say to him

[20:57] say did I ever tell you about the time

[21:01] Tim and I were flying up and he'd say

[21:04] don't think about the past

[21:08] just be here now.

[21:13] Okay.

[21:15] Hey, how long do you think we're going

[21:16] to be on this trip?

[21:20] Don't think about the future.

[21:23] Just be here now.

[21:26] If you can truly be here now,

[21:31] when the future is now,

[21:34] you will have optimum awareness and

[21:37] optimum energy. and you will do the

[21:39] appropriate thing.

[21:44] Gee, my body really feels crummy.

[21:48] Emotions are like waves. Watch them

[21:51] disappear into the distance on the vast

[21:54] calm ocean.

[21:59] So, he had literally taken away

[22:01] everything I talk about.

[22:04] my thing.

[22:06] Nothing to do but be quiet.

[22:10] So we were quiet and we sang holy songs.

[22:12] He wasn't the least bit interested in

[22:13] who in my life, my fascinating life. He

[22:16] wasn't interested.

[22:18] And at the same time as he was

[22:19] completely putting me down, saying,

[22:22] "Baby, your life doesn't interest me."

[22:25] He was being present so immediately and

[22:28] intensely that I had never felt

[22:30] anybody's presence so much.

[22:35] And I would do this take like what's

[22:37] going on here? You're following, you

[22:39] come to India to find a holy man. You're

[22:40] following a 23-y old guy from Laguna

[22:42] Beach.

[22:45] Pretty far out.

[22:48] But on we went

[22:52] and there were some thousands of

[22:54] fascinating little moments along the

[22:56] way.

[22:58] We stayed in Buddhist Chinese Buddhist

[23:01] temples and everywhere we'd go they'd

[23:03] welcome him as if he was one of theirs.

[23:05] It was a very far out scene. If you'd go

[23:07] to see the Terravadan Buddhists, they'd

[23:10] uh immediately he'd be talking their

[23:12] chants and their prayers and they'd all

[23:14] treat him like he was an initiate. And

[23:16] then you'd go see a Shaite sect and

[23:18] they'd all be welcoming him as if he was

[23:20] an initiate. And you go to the

[23:21] Vashnavites and they'd be welcome. And

[23:23] the different Tibetan sects, Buddhist

[23:24] sects, and everybody treated him like he

[23:26] was one of theirs.

[23:30] Finally, after about a few months, I had

[23:32] a visa problem and I had to go and get

[23:34] my visa extended and I did that and then

[23:36] he had his annual visa to be worked out

[23:38] and we went to a village

[23:40] on the planes where his papers were. And

[23:43] we were staying with some people who

[23:45] again welcomed him, some very wealthy

[23:47] people who welcomed him and put us in

[23:49] the holy man house on their property.

[23:52] And he would say to me, "Sit here." And

[23:54] I'd sit here. He'd say, "Eat this." And

[23:56] I'd eat it. He'd say, "Sleep here." And

[23:57] I'd sleep there cuz he knew and I

[24:00] didn't. I was like a child, a baby. My

[24:04] bones ache and I had terrible dysentery

[24:07] cuz I no longer had bottled water and,

[24:09] you know, all that kind of stuff. And

[24:12] he'd say, "That's good. You'll develop

[24:13] the bacteria. Just, you know, fast for a

[24:16] few days."

[24:18] No pity, but much compassion.

[24:25] and he went off to see about his papers.

[24:29] And during the night, I had to go to the

[24:30] bathroom. And I went outside under the

[24:32] stars. And while I was out under the

[24:34] stars,

[24:37] I started to think about

[24:41] my mother again.

[24:47] Not that she had died. She had died in

[24:49] the previous January of spleen at the

[24:51] Peterbent Bighgam Hospital in Boston.

[24:56] I hadn't thought about her death, but

[24:57] when I was this close to the universe, I

[24:59] just felt presence. I had never missed

[25:01] her because I had been with her through

[25:02] her death and it had been a very

[25:03] conscious dying.

[25:05] Very conscious dying. And I never felt

[25:08] lost at all because I dug that what

[25:10] mother and I had going didn't die that

[25:12] way.

[25:14] And then I went back to bed and I said

[25:16] nothing about this. That was my trip.

[25:18] You know, he wasn't interested in my

[25:19] life anyway. And the next day he said,

[25:20] "We must go to the mountains to see my

[25:22] guru." and he had never even mentioned

[25:23] having a guru. And I assumed if he did

[25:25] have one, it would be a Buddhist and he

[25:27] didn't call them gurus usually. And I

[25:29] didn't know what was going on. And he

[25:30] said, "We have to take the Land Rover."

[25:32] And I said, "Well, we're never going to

[25:34] get that cuz the fellow who has been

[25:35] left with really likes it and he's not

[25:37] going to want to give it to us." And he

[25:39] says, "Don't worry. It'll all be all

[25:40] right." And we went to see the fellow

[25:42] and with a half an hour, within a half

[25:43] an hour, the guy says, "Look, you've got

[25:44] to go to the mountains, take the Land

[25:45] Rover."

[25:49] because the fellow is a very high being

[25:51] actually very high being also

[25:57] we started for the mountains and I was

[25:59] in one of the worst moods I'd ever been

[26:01] in in India I was just coming down after

[26:05] about 3 and 1/2 months of hashish

[26:08] furthermore I didn't want to be in the

[26:09] Land Rover which was now like a horrible

[26:13] tank to me because I had already now

[26:16] been walking barefoot through all of the

[26:19] cow cow dong and pond juice and dirt

[26:22] between my toes and sleeping on the

[26:24] ground and I was really living in India

[26:26] and I was really turned on by it and

[26:28] suddenly I'm back in this thing

[26:32] and I'm thinking what am I doing here

[26:34] this kid just wants he won't even let me

[26:36] drive see

[26:43] and I dig that the car is somewhat my

[26:45] responsibility and the guy that left it

[26:47] that owned it didn't even leave it in

[26:48] for to use. Anyway, so I felt terrible

[26:51] and I was really bugged with this guy

[26:53] and thought, gee, I'm just going to go

[26:54] on this trip, whatever it is, and then

[26:55] I'm going back to America, man. I

[26:57] started having fantasies of dancing at

[26:59] the Fillmore and how groovy it was going

[27:01] to be to get back and I don't want to

[27:04] see a guru and guru hypes and what, you

[27:06] know, what the hell this

[27:09] and we go up into the Himalayas and we

[27:11] come to a little temple by the side of

[27:13] the road. We stop and I think we're just

[27:15] sort of stopping so that some trucks can

[27:17] go by and people surround the car which

[27:20] they always do in India. In India it's

[27:21] like instant crowd. The minute you stop

[27:23] there's like 200 people and they're all

[27:26] standing about 3 in from you with big

[27:28] eyes looking directly at you. And it's

[27:31] not paranoia on anybody's part except

[27:33] yours cuz they have nothing going.

[27:36] They're not coming on. They're just

[27:37] interested.

[27:39] But when you're trying to urinate or

[27:41] cook food or something, you know, it's

[27:43] just that you're you got this $7,000

[27:47] vehicle, which is like probably the most

[27:48] expensive vehicle in India,

[27:51] and it's got a peppermint striped roof.

[28:04] I can tell something's going to happen

[28:05] because this guy

[28:08] is crying all the way up into the hills.

[28:10] Tears are streaming down his face and

[28:13] he's singing holy songs the top of his

[28:15] lungs and I'm I'm over in the corner

[28:17] being bugged.

[28:19] I'm sulking.

[28:22] I'm sulking. And he gets there and he

[28:24] says um where he asked him where the

[28:27] guru is and they say um Maharaj's up on

[28:29] the hill and he goes running off up the

[28:31] hill and I'm left there and everybody's

[28:33] like looking at me and I don't know what

[28:34] to do and everybody's kind of ignoring

[28:36] me. So I go running after him and every

[28:38] you know my ego is just being pushed

[28:40] around terribly.

[28:42] I don't want to be here. Nobody's giving

[28:44] me any choice. And I'm stumbling up this

[28:46] hill behind this giant who's like

[28:48] running in big leaps crying. And I don't

[28:50] want to see a guru anyway. And you know,

[28:55] we climb a hill and we come around uh

[28:58] the top of the hill to a beautiful field

[29:02] overlooking a valley that's out of sight

[29:04] of the road. And in the middle of the

[29:07] field is this little old man sitting

[29:08] with a blanket around him. And about

[29:10] eight or nine Indians are sitting around

[29:12] him. And it's just a beautiful tableau.

[29:16] Of course, I'm too hung up to appreciate

[29:18] it, but I see it and the clouds are in

[29:20] the background and it's very beautiful.

[29:22] And I he this guy runs up and he does

[29:24] dunder prrenam. He goes out fullfaced,

[29:27] hands touching this man, this little old

[29:30] man's toes, and he's crying, and the

[29:33] man's patting his head, and I don't know

[29:35] what to do. You know what? This is all

[29:36] idiocy. And I'm standing by the corner

[29:38] saying, "Well, I'll come here, but I'm

[29:40] not going to touch his feet. I mean, I

[29:41] don't know what this is all about. And

[29:43] I'm, you know, totally paranoid. Totally

[29:46] paranoid.

[29:48] And the man's patting this guy's head.

[29:52] And then he looks up at me and then he

[29:54] pulls the guy's hair back and he says to

[29:56] him, "Have you got a picture of me?" He

[29:58] says this in Hindi and it's sort of

[30:00] partly being translated and partly I'm

[30:02] picking it up. He says, "Have you got a

[30:04] picture of me?" And through his tears,

[30:06] this guy says, "Yeah." He says, "Give it

[30:08] to him."

[30:10] Uh, gee, that's really nice. This

[30:13] little old man's going to give me a

[30:14] picture of himself.

[30:16] Pretty cool.

[30:19] That's the first ego thing I gotten in

[30:21] the whole day, you know? I mean, I

[30:23] really needed it.

[30:30] And then he says um to me looks at me

[30:33] and he says um

[30:36] you came in a big car

[30:40] now one topic you know that like I don't

[30:43] want to talk about

[30:45] and he's smiling so I said yeah

[30:49] he says um you'll give it to

[30:59] So I start to say, "Well, it's not my

[31:02] car. I" And this this idiot lying out

[31:05] full face is saying, "Maharaji, if you

[31:08] want it, it's yours." And I'm yelling,

[31:09] "You can't give him David's power. That

[31:11] isn't our car to give away."

[31:20] and he looks up at me and he says, "You

[31:23] made much money in America."

[31:29] So I figure he thinks all Americans are

[31:32] rich, you know. I said, "Yeah, I made a

[31:35] lot of money in America one time.

[31:38] How much did you make?" I said, "Well,

[31:41] one year I made $25,000."

[31:44] So they all calculated that in rupees

[31:46] and that was a sizable amount of money,

[31:48] you know.

[31:50] So he says, "Um, you will buy a car like

[31:54] that for me?"

[31:57] My thought at that moment was, I have

[31:59] never been hustled so fast in my life.

[32:02] I mean, I grew up around the Jewish

[32:04] charities.

[32:06] And we were good at it, but never this

[32:09] good. I mean, I haven't even met this

[32:11] guy, and already he's asking for $7,000

[32:13] car.

[32:15] So I said, "Well, maybe."

[32:20] And all the time he's smiling at me

[32:26] and my head's going around in circles.

[32:29] And then he says, "Take them, take them

[32:30] away, jow, jow, jow." You know, take

[32:32] them off and feed them pride food. And

[32:35] we're taken off and treated royally and

[32:38] given beautiful food and a place to

[32:40] rest. And we're together still. We're

[32:43] way up in the mountains. There's no

[32:45] telephones, no lights, no nothing. This

[32:47] is really way up in the mountains.

[32:50] And after a while, we're brought back to

[32:52] later with Maharaji. He says to me,

[32:55] "Come sit here. Sit down." He looks at

[32:58] me and he says, "Um,

[33:01] you were out under the stars last

[33:02] night."

[33:05] Yeah.

[33:09] He said, "Um,

[33:12] you were thinking about your mother.

[33:23] She died last year.

[33:26] Yeah,

[33:30] she got very big in the stomach before

[33:32] she died."

[33:35] That's right.

[33:43] spleen. She died of spleen.

[33:47] Well, when he said spleen,

[33:50] it was like he looked at me and he

[33:53] looked directly at me and two things

[33:55] happened simultaneously.

[33:57] One thing was that my rational mind,

[34:00] like a [clears throat] computer out of

[34:01] control, went through its storage units

[34:03] desperately trying to figure out how he

[34:06] could have done that.

[34:08] I mean, I went through every super CIA

[34:11] paranoia, you know, you could have.

[34:13] Like, they brought me here and this is

[34:15] part of the mind screw thing, you know,

[34:17] and they're going to

[34:23] But no matter how grandiose it got, it

[34:26] just couldn't handle this one. I mean, I

[34:28] just couldn't handle this. This just

[34:30] wasn't within the book of even my

[34:32] paranoia. And they were pretty

[34:34] grandiose.

[34:37] And see, up until then, I'd been in this

[34:39] position that when something like this

[34:41] had happened, either I had heard about

[34:44] it secondhand, in which case I said, as

[34:46] any good Harvard scientist would say,

[34:48] well, this is very interesting. We

[34:50] certainly must keep an open mind about

[34:52] these things. JB Ryan is doing some

[34:54] interesting research in this field, you

[34:55] know, or else I was high on LSD in which

[35:00] I'd say, well, how do I know that I, as

[35:02] the observer, aren't just creating the

[35:04] whole thing out of whole cloth anyway?

[35:09] Because at one point when I was taking

[35:11] psychedelics, I had taken a chemical

[35:14] called JB 318.

[35:18] And um I was sitting in the third floor

[35:21] at Milbrook and I thought, "Gee,

[35:23] nothing's happening. What a weird drug."

[35:25] And there was a guy that took it with me

[35:27] was doing cartwheels through the room.

[35:28] He keep passing through the room and the

[35:30] bathroom and back through. He was about

[35:31] a 45, 50-y old man. He was doing

[35:33] cartwheels, you know, but it seemed

[35:36] nothing was happening to me. And this

[35:38] girl came in from the community and she

[35:39] said, "Did I want a drink?" And I said,

[35:40] "That would be groovy." And she poured a

[35:42] glass of lemonade and it got to the top.

[35:45] And she kept pouring and it went over

[35:47] the side and down the floor and across

[35:49] the floor and up and across the ceiling

[35:51] and down and under and got my pants wet

[35:54] and came back up and it went into the

[35:56] glass and then the glass disappeared and

[35:58] the girl disappeared and the wet

[36:00] disappeared. And I turned to Ralph

[36:02] Mezner who was standing next to me and I

[36:04] said, "Ralph, the most remarkable thing

[36:06] happened and Ralph disappeared.

[36:20] And since I knew that such things could

[36:23] happen, you see, I took all the things

[36:26] that happened to me with psychedelics

[36:27] and put them into that special category

[36:29] of, you know, the observer is under a

[36:32] chemical influence.

[36:35] But I wasn't under a chemical influence.

[36:37] And this guy just said spleen. And how

[36:38] did he know that? Think

[36:45] the mind went faster and faster and

[36:47] finally just like a computer when it's

[36:48] met an insoluble problem the bell rings

[36:52] and the red light goes on the machine

[36:53] stops

[36:55] and my rational mind just gave up. when

[37:00] and at that same moment there was this

[37:02] violent wrenching really um

[37:07] very very painful pull in my chest

[37:11] and I started to cry.

[37:16] My

[37:17] fourth chakra was being opened

[37:21] and I cried and I cried and I cried and

[37:24] I cried and I wasn't sad and I wasn't

[37:28] happy.

[37:30] The closest I can say is I was crying

[37:32] cuz like I'm home.

[37:34] I've carried my big pile of up the hill

[37:37] and I'm it's all done. All the paranoia

[37:40] washed out of me and all of the

[37:42] everything but just just a feeling of

[37:44] fantastic love and peace and wow.

[37:50] And I cried and cried and cried and they

[37:53] took me to a temple about 12 miles away.

[37:55] And there I sat and I was kind of

[37:56] confused.

[37:58] And during the evening I was wondering

[38:00] what had happened to me. I didn't

[38:02] understand what was going on. And I was

[38:04] going through my uh shoulder bag and I

[38:08] came across this little bottle of LSD

[38:09] and I thought, "Wow,

[38:11] I always wondered what LSD was. This guy

[38:14] knows everything. He'll know. I'll ask

[38:17] him. I must remember to ask him."

[38:21] Next morning,

[38:24] 8:30

[38:26] Messenger Maharaji wants to see you.

[38:30] So Maharaji means great king. It's a

[38:32] title for realized beings.

[38:35] So we get into the Land Rover and we go

[38:37] to see Maharaji and I'm just approaching

[38:39] him. I'm about

[38:40] oh 5 yards away and he yells at me,

[38:44] "Got a question?"

[38:49] Well, I take one look at him and I don't

[38:51] have any questions. I just want to fall

[38:53] out and touch his feet.

[38:56] You dig that? It's like

[38:59] I mean the thought of touching his feet

[39:00] is too much. is like touching the sun

[39:03] and I just feel all warm and loving and

[39:05] who has questions? I mean what a drag

[39:08] question. I don't have any questions.

[39:10] No, I don't. He says where's the

[39:13] medicine? [laughter]

[39:18] Medicine?

[39:20] My friend says maybe he means the LSD. I

[39:22] said LSD. Aha, bring the LSD.

[39:25] So I go and I get the bottle of LSD and

[39:27] he he's looking. So I pour it out in my

[39:30] hand. He says, "What's that?" I said,

[39:32] "Well, that's STP." And what's that?

[39:34] Well, that's tinol and that's lirium.

[39:37] That's LSD. And

[39:40] I'm telling him about all these things,

[39:42] little, you know, your traveling pack,

[39:44] you know. And he says, um,

[39:47] says, "Gives you Sydneys."

[39:51] I have never heard the word before. And

[39:53] I said, "Sydneys?" And somebody said,

[39:56] "Powers."

[39:58] And I got the tape western head that I

[40:01] am that he is like a little old man of

[40:04] 70 and he's asking for like vitamin B12,

[40:06] you know? I mean, he's losing his

[40:08] physical strength and he wants something

[40:09] to soup him up.

[40:13] And I'm really disappointed, man. I give

[40:15] that guy anything, but what I he wants I

[40:17] don't have. I don't have any vitamin

[40:18] B12.

[40:21] Gee, I'm sorry. I pour it back into the

[40:25] thing. No, no, no. He holds out his

[40:27] hand.

[40:29] So I put on one

[40:34] lovingly call white lightning.

[40:39] Now this was a this particular batch of

[40:41] white lightning had because of the way

[40:43] the wash water was I was assured was 305

[40:46] micrograms each one of the pills instead

[40:49] of 275.

[40:52] It was very good. He looked at it.

[40:56] Come on. So I put a second on his hand.

[40:59] 610.

[41:01] He's about 70 years old. You know that's

[41:03] funny. You start a 70-y old man at a

[41:06] small dose.

[41:08] 150 under suitable condition.

[41:12] Come on. Come on. I put a third in his

[41:15] hand. That's 915 micrograms.

[41:20] Watch.

[41:23] He swallows them.

[41:25] I watch them go down

[41:28] and the scientist in me thinks, "Well,

[41:30] this is certainly going to be

[41:31] interesting

[41:42] all day. I'm around him and he keeps the

[41:44] every now and then he twinkles a bit,

[41:49] but nothing happens."

[41:52] Right? That was the answer to that

[41:54] question.

[41:56] Few days later, we were sitting there

[41:58] and he said to me, um,

[42:02] he said, "You went to Armenoth cave."

[42:05] And I got a real ego flash like, "The

[42:08] man, I've been on a holy pilgrimage and

[42:10] he's recognizing it. [clears throat]

[42:12] Wow, isn't that great?" See, and I went

[42:13] through my whole like, you know, pride.

[42:16] And he looked at me and he says, "But

[42:18] you didn't understand it."

[42:21] I said, "No.

[42:23] You will

[42:33] just few more things about him. Later, a

[42:35] few months later,

[42:37] I had to go to Delhi

[42:40] and I went by bus to Delhi and it was

[42:43] like about a 10 or 12 hour bus trip

[42:47] and I got to Delhi and I was very high

[42:49] and I was barefoot and silent. I was ma

[42:52] all the time. I was there working with a

[42:53] chalkboard and I went all around Kono

[42:55] Place doing my thing and American

[42:58] Express and BOAC and public health and

[43:01] all this stuff and I had to get some

[43:04] money for a for some tonkas that were

[43:07] being reproduced

[43:10] and around 2:00 in the afternoon

[43:16] I wanted to have a meal. I had been

[43:19] living on a very very sparse diet as

[43:21] I'll tell you about in a minute. So I

[43:23] went into this very fancy vegetarian

[43:25] restaurant and I decided to really live

[43:27] it up and I had their fanciest meal

[43:30] and I really grew behind it. I mean the

[43:33] whole business of enjoy enjoy you know

[43:35] like I was really into the food and for

[43:38] dessert I had ice cream and they brought

[43:40] on the ice cream they brought two

[43:42] biscuits and boy those were the first

[43:44] cookies I'd had and oh did I savor

[43:47] those. Oh, it's so good. [clears throat]

[43:51] Then I went to the um Ashoka mission,

[43:53] the Buddhist monastery, Terravadan

[43:55] Buddhist, and I stayed overnight and the

[43:57] next day I took the bus back up to the

[43:58] mountains and a few days later Maharaji

[44:01] who had been up in the hills further up

[44:03] came back. We heard Maharaji's in town

[44:05] and everybody went flying the Maharaji

[44:07] like bees to honey.

[44:10] And I brought him oranges. You bring uh

[44:13] you bring something to to Darian. bring

[44:17] some food.

[44:20] And I saw him. I took one look and I

[44:22] started to cry. The oranges went flying

[44:23] in all directions. And he picked up the

[44:26] oranges wildly and was eating them right

[44:28] in front of me. And he ate eight oranges

[44:30] right in front of me

[44:32] because

[44:34] if if uh if if when he eats that way,

[44:38] he's taking on like karma from the

[44:40] person. It's doing a thing. In fact, all

[44:42] day long he sits there and all these

[44:44] loving women come bringing food they've

[44:47] cooked all night. And he just sits there

[44:49] all day talking and every now and then

[44:51] he opens his mouth and she puts

[44:54] something in and she

[44:57] opens her mouth. She's like huge um

[45:01] elephant or rhinoceros that just sits

[45:03] there and you just keep feeding it. He

[45:05] must eat 15 meals a day just sitting

[45:07] there. I mean amazing. It just passes it

[45:09] all through, I guess. [laughter]

[45:12] and he ate he ate oranges and the

[45:14] principal of the school was feeding me

[45:16] oranges and I was crying. It was quite a

[45:18] melodrome.

[45:19] And then he grabbed my hair, what was

[45:21] left, and he pulled it up and he looked

[45:22] at me and he said, "Um, how'd you like

[45:24] the biscuits?"

[45:28] And then he proceeded to tell me moment

[45:30] by moment everything that had happened

[45:31] to me in Delhi. Just like he had been

[45:33] right behind me

[45:35] or in me or somewhere or other.

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By 1967, despite intensive psychedelic sessions with thousands of micrograms of LSD, Ram Dass observed that he and his colleagues could not sustain or integrate those states into daily life. He recognized he was on an "asymptotic curve"—no matter how intensely he pursued the chemical method, he wasn't reaching a lasting transformation. The realization led to profound despair but also clarity that another path was necessary.
Ram Dass traveled as a tourist—comfortable, cushioned, with cameras and tapes—rather than as a true seeker. As he later reflected, "A pickpocket meets a saint and sees only his pockets." He was looking with the wrong eyes, interpreting everything through a Western lens of documentation and experience-collecting rather than presence and recognition.
After months of fruitless searching, Ram Dass encountered a young Westerner in a restaurant who had converted to Buddhism and seemed to possess genuine spiritual presence. This man, seemingly indifferent to Ram Dass's tour and questions, quietly invited him to travel to meet his teacher: Neem Karoli Baba. The seemingly casual invitation changed everything.
When approaching Neem Karoli Baba, the saint immediately challenged him: "Got a question?" But upon seeing Maharaj-ji, Ram Dass's entire seeking mind dissolved. He felt only the impulse to touch the guru's feet in devotion, describing it as "like touching the sun." The recognition was immediate and wordless—not intellectual but a visceral knowing that he had found his teacher.
This encounter with Neem Karoli Baba became the foundation for Ram Dass's life work. He spent the following years serving and learning from his guru, later translating these teachings for Western audiences through his book *Be Here Now* and decades of teaching, helping integrate psychedelic insights with Hindu devotional practice.
Touching a guru's feet is an act of complete surrender and recognition in Hindu and yogic tradition. For Ram Dass, the impulse arose spontaneously—not from learned ritual but from a direct perception that Maharaj-ji embodied a completeness and love he had been seeking. The gesture represented the end of seeking and the beginning of learning from a living teacher.

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