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Mandukya Upanishad: Why Words Cannot Reveal the Self

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Swami Tadatmananda
Oct 29, 2026
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出典:ArshaBodha - Swami Tadatmananda

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The Mandukya Upanishad is the shortest of the Upanishads, drawn from the Atharva Veda, and it works by taking the syllable Om apart into three parts that match the waking, dream, and deep-sleep states of experience. In this sixth class of an eight-part series, Swami Tadatmananda, a traditionally trained teacher of Advaita Vedanta, takes up the seventh mantra, which he calls the main mantra of the text. The puzzle at its center is a hard one: if the self, atma, is pure consciousness, and if consciousness is already present in every experience, then what can teaching possibly add? His answer is that the teaching does not reveal the self at all. It removes the mistaken ideas that hide it, and it does so largely through a relentless sequence of negations, with a handful of words that sound positive but turn out to be negations in disguise.

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What is the seventh mantra doing, and why is it mostly negative?

The class opens by reviewing where the previous session ended. The mantra is built as a string of denials. Consciousness is not the consciousness of the dream state, not the consciousness of waking, not the consciousness that sits between the two, and not the consciousness of deep sleep. It is not "simple consciousness," and it is not unconsciousness. It cannot be seen, grasped by the organs, inferred by logic, or made into an object of thought. The teacher's point, repeated across the session, is that nearly every term in the statement is a negative. Even the terms that sound affirmative are doing negative work.

That is the sort of observation that can sound like a riddle until you see the logic behind it. Vedanta distinguishes between things that can be known through their qualities and things that cannot. Words are good at revealing qualities, actions, kinds, and relationships. Atma has none of those in the sense that a pot has a shape or a color. So words, in the strict sense, are useless for pointing to it.

Why can't words reveal the self, and what are they for then?

The teacher is blunt about this. In the question period, he says, the class made the point very clearly: words cannot reveal atma. But he adds the reassurance that makes the whole method make sense. Words do not need to reveal atma, because revelation is only necessary for something that is absent. Something already present in your experience does not need to be brought to light.

"Words cannot reveal atma. And fortunately, words need not reveal atma."

— Swami Tadatmananda, sixth class of the Mandukya Upanishad series (Arsha Bodha Center; the class was originally taught in 2011), around 4:05 in the video

So what are the teachers doing? The answer he gives is one of the cleanest statements of the method in the whole session:

"We're not teaching atma. We're teaching you to destroy the wrong thinking about atma. That's really what Vedanta is all about."

— Swami Tadatmananda, same series, around 5:05 in the video

This reframes the purpose of the negations. They are not describing a hidden object that you then have to find. They are dismantling the false images you have layered over something you already are. The teacher returns to a metaphor from the Arundhati-star tradition, which he calls the arundhati-darshana method. Imagine searching the night sky for a particular star. You know it is somewhere in your field of view, but you do not know which point it is. A careful method of elimination, ruling out one candidate after another, leads you to the star you were looking for. The star was never absent; it was unidentified.

"That star is present in your field of view but you don't know which it is."

— Swami Tadatmananda, same series, around 6:00 in the video

Consciousness works the same way. It is present in every experience, but it is not recognized as what it is. The sequence of negations is a method of elimination. Each denial removes one thing consciousness is not, until what remains is what was there all along.

What does "negation in disguise" mean?

The most interesting move in this class is the teacher's treatment of the final compound in the mantra, the word that he says is the only one in the whole statement that is positively meant. He resolves it as "the essence of a thought." The word pratyaya means a thought or a mental activity, and the second element means essence or content. He offers an analogy familiar from ordinary life. The content of a wave is water. The content of a clay pot is clay. What, then, is the content of a thought? The answer he gives is consciousness, the one self that is present in every mental activity.

He pushes the idea further. Waking has thoughts, and dream has thoughts. Can you speak of a thought during deep sleep? He suggests, somewhat theoretically, that deep sleep can be understood as a single thought whose form is pure ignorance. Whatever the theoretical framing, the point holds: consciousness is the content in each of the three states, the thread running through all of them.

Here the teacher draws on Shankara's commentary, which reads the word differently. Shankara takes it to mean that which follows, that which is continually present. The teacher's gloss is simple: something is present through waking, dream, and deep sleep alike. And that is where the negation in disguise appears. A statement that seems to affirm the self as present is, in its structure, denying that the self could come and go, could be absent in one state or altered in another. Something that looks like a positive claim is actually ruling out an alternative.

"Is that necessary? You already see me. You already know me."

— Swami Tadatmananda, same series, around 11:30 in the video (pointing out that pointing to himself is unnecessary)

The illustration of pointing to himself is deliberately ordinary. Nobody needs to be shown that the teacher is sitting in front of them. The word for the self plays the same role. It is unnecessary to point out the existence of consciousness, because consciousness is the one thing you cannot step outside of in order to check.

How do you see the three states as they appear to a witness?

The teacher returns to a teaching device he has used throughout the series: the movie theater. The waking, dream, and deep-sleep states are features on a screen, coming and going, while a conscious being sits in a comfortable chair eating popcorn, watching them all. The screen changes. The viewer does not. The question the class keeps asking is who undergoes the three states, and who is the conscious being observing their alternation. Remembering that witness is the key to seeing why the statement points to something stable beneath changing experience.

This is also why the Om analogy in the Upanishad works. The three syllables of Om correspond to the three states, and the silence after them points toward what is not one of the states at all. The class is less about the metaphysics of Om than about training attention to notice the one observing every state.

Why is "I am a conscious being" the only self-established fact?

The mantra uses the Sanskrit word siddha, meaning self-established: a fact that stands without needing anything else to prove it. The teacher walks through the candidates one by one. The world is not self-established, because you need sight, hearing, taste, smell, and touch to know it. Your body is not self-established for the same reason. Even the mind is not self-established, because the mind and its activities are themselves known through consciousness. Each apparent foundation turns out to rest on something further.

"There are very few things in life which are self-established."

— Swami Tadatmananda, same series, around 13:20 in the video

What survives the elimination is the simplest possible statement: I am a conscious being. I exist as a conscious being. Nothing needs to prove it, and it cannot be proven by anything more basic than itself. You cannot step outside your own awareness to check whether it is there.

What remains after all the negation?

The class closes with a sequence of images that make the point through contrast. The teacher holds up clay in one hand and a pot in the other, asking what the pot really is. Its shape is a name given to clay. A rope mistaken for a snake is a useful image for the way the three states are projected onto consciousness because of ignorance, and the rope is the only thing that was ever real. The teacher is careful about the limits of the analogies, and he tells students to see them as ladders to be set aside once the point is reached.

What remains, in the end, is not an object but a presence: the consciousness that is already present in your experience, known as it truly is. The Sanskrit word for this non-duality, advaita, appears at the close of the mantra. Between the opening Om shanti and the final prayer for peace, the class repeats the invocation three times, a small liturgical frame around a long argument about why the thing you are looking for is the looking itself.

Where to go from here

If this class has you curious, start with the sequence rather than the single mantra. The seventh mantra is the centerpiece of a compact text, and the teacher's earlier sessions on negation and on the three states supply the vocabulary the class assumes. The videos in this series are more useful with the Sanskrit, Roman transliteration, and translation on screen, which the volunteers Jhanvi, Vikram, Upendra, and Mangesh produced for these classes. The Arsha Bodha Center's website, arshabodha.org, offers more on the teacher and the wider teaching program.

Then try the teacher's own test. Notice one experience right now, and ask what in it is self-established, and what depends on something else. Most of what you find will fall into the second category. The first category is smaller than you expect, and the teacher's claim is that it is enough.

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[0:02] Omar

[0:14] for

[0:16] he

[0:35] swast

[0:39] the name

[0:46] Om shanty shanty shanty.

[0:57] Good. Welcome back. So we are currently

[1:02] on the seventh mantra, the most

[1:05] important mantra, the main mantra of

[1:08] this uh brief text. And we we've

[1:12] actually spent two classes on this. We

[1:15] have one more class today. We will

[1:17] finish this uh this extremely important

[1:21] mantra. And there's a a lot more to be

[1:24] uh seen.

[1:25] So let us return to the text. Repeat

[1:30] after me.

[1:39] No bayam

[1:56] adam

[1:59] of yearam

[2:03] aam.

[2:05] Action

[2:08] aent

[2:10] of

[2:14] a

[2:22] propam

[2:26] shantam sham

[2:31] adam.

[2:49] Good. So in the prior class we had a

[2:53] long and very important discussion about

[2:57] negation and what we've seen in the

[3:01] first part of the mantra is all

[3:03] negation. Negation, negation, negation.

[3:07] That consciousness is not antyam.

[3:10] It's not the consciousness present in

[3:12] dream is notam. Consciousness present in

[3:16] waking state.

[3:19] Not consciousness in between the two

[3:22] states.

[3:24] Not the consciousness present in deep

[3:26] sleep.

[3:28] Not simple consciousness.

[3:31] Not not unconsciousness.

[3:34] can't be seen of yeaharam. You can't

[3:36] interact with it. A graium you can't

[3:39] grasp it with your with your organs. A

[3:42] luxenum you can't infer it or use logic

[3:46] to determine it. A chintentium. It can't

[3:49] be an object of thought of we joked

[3:52] about it. Can't be taught. What are we

[3:55] doing

[3:57] exactly?

[3:59] can't be taught as an object is is what

[4:02] we saw before.

[4:05] So we had a long discussion about the

[4:07] purpose of all this negation. We said

[4:10] since atma doesn't have the qualities

[4:13] that can be unfolded by words. Remember

[4:18] our discussion jati ka sambha we said

[4:22] that words are good for revealing those

[4:24] four. I don't want to go over all that

[4:26] again. That was our subject for our last

[4:28] class. Since words are good for telling

[4:31] you about jati, gona, ka and sambha. And

[4:35] since atma has no jati, no gona, no

[4:38] kria, no sambha, words are useless.

[4:42] Careful now. Words are re useless to

[4:47] reveal

[4:48] atma. Now in our uh question answer

[4:51] period, we we made that point very

[4:53] clearly. Words cannot reveal atma. And

[4:58] fortunately, words need not reveal atma.

[5:05] You only need to reveal something that's

[5:08] not present.

[5:11] Something present in your experience

[5:14] need not be revealed. Atma is present in

[5:18] this experience as consciousness.

[5:20] Therefore, atma need not be revealed.

[5:23] Words need not be used to reveal atma.

[5:27] Words cannot reveal atma. Then what are

[5:30] we doing? Why are we teaching? We're not

[5:33] teaching atma. We're teaching you

[5:39] to destroy the wrong thinking about

[5:43] atma.

[5:45] That's really what vdanta is all about.

[5:46] Again, as we said in that in the

[5:48] question answer session. So all of this

[5:50] negation is then to

[5:54] negate what is not atma. And that's why

[5:57] we gave that very powerful arundi dashna

[6:00] naya that metaphor of finding that

[6:02] particular star. What a brilliant

[6:04] metaphor it is. That star is present in

[6:08] your field of view but you don't know

[6:10] which it is. So that very precise

[6:14] methodology of negation leads you to

[6:17] discover the particular star. In the

[6:20] same way, consciousness is present in

[6:23] this experience, but it's not recognized

[6:26] as what it is. Therefore, we have all

[6:29] these words of negation to negate what

[6:32] consciousness is is not and lead you to

[6:35] appreciate the true nature of the

[6:38] consciousness which is already present

[6:40] in your experience. This is a summary of

[6:43] uh the last class.

[6:46] With that summary, we can proceed.

[6:49] So far, every every term we've seen has

[6:53] been negative.

[6:55] Most of the terms that are about to come

[6:57] are also negative even though they sound

[7:00] positive. We'll see them in just a

[7:01] moment. But in this whole statement,

[7:03] there is one statement. There's one word

[7:07] for atma that is surprisingly positive

[7:11] in nature and not negative and it's

[7:13] where we left off. So we saw this whole

[7:16] vakya this whole statement except for

[7:18] the last compound.

[7:23] This is where we left off in the last

[7:25] class. That's where we continue tonight.

[7:28] This is the only word in this vakya

[7:30] which is absolutely positive in meaning.

[7:34] Let's see what it refers to. Prata sum s

[7:40] means there by the way there are several

[7:42] ways of resolving this compound. I'll

[7:44] give you the way that I think is most

[7:46] helpful. [clears throat]

[7:48] S is the essence of something.

[7:52] Pratya is a thought. Pratya is the

[7:56] essence of a thought.

[8:00] What is the essence of a thought? What

[8:02] is the content of a thought? It's like

[8:06] asking what is the content of a wave?

[8:10] Water. What is the content of a pot

[8:14] clay? What is the content of a thought?

[8:18] Consciousness.

[8:21] And that consciousness is ama.

[8:25] It is the one self.

[8:29] The oneness self which is pratya

[8:34] which is the content of every pratya

[8:38] every mental activity. What mental

[8:40] activities are we referring to? The

[8:43] mental activities right now in

[8:45] jagratasta.

[8:47] The mental activities in swapna.

[8:51] And

[8:53] can we really speak of a prata

[8:57] during deep sleep? A thought during deep

[9:00] sleep. If we get a little theoretical

[9:03] about it, we can think how about a

[9:06] thought in the form of pure ignorance.

[9:10] How's that? Deep sleep can be explained

[9:14] as a presence of one thought whose form

[9:19] is pure ignorance. A little theoretical

[9:22] but just to to explain this this

[9:25] teaching. So each of those pratayas each

[9:29] of those thought conditions

[9:32] consciousness is present as the content

[9:36] of each and every one of them.

[9:39] There's another interpretation of this.

[9:41] So, so sodum can also be in Shankr's

[9:44] commentary he says anus

[9:48] as that which literally that which

[9:51] follows.

[9:53] So that which is following with all the

[9:56] pratyas that which is continually

[10:00] present and this is how shankara

[10:02] explains it that which is continually

[10:04] present in all the three states of

[10:07] experience. waking, dream and deep

[10:10] sleep. Something is continually present.

[10:15] And we we went when we analyzed the

[10:17] three states of experience, we saw that

[10:19] again and again. Who is the one who

[10:24] undergoes the three states of

[10:26] experience? The three states of

[10:28] experience are for some conscious being.

[10:32] Who is a conscious being that undergoes

[10:34] these three states of experience? Who is

[10:37] the conscious being observing the

[10:39] alteration alternation of these three

[10:42] states? Remember the movie theater

[10:44] analogy? That's it. Who is the one

[10:47] sitting in a comfortable chair eating

[10:49] popcorn watching the waking dream and

[10:52] deep sleep states come and go just like

[10:56] features on a movie screen. So anusam

[11:00] shank explains the one that continually

[11:03] follows the one that's continually

[11:05] present through all the all the states

[11:08] of experience.

[11:10] Does this statement reveal atma?

[11:16] Well, it's already present. It's if if

[11:20] you say oh yeah it reveals you could

[11:23] think it reveals atma but it reveals

[11:25] atma in this way

[11:29] this is swami traatatmaandanda

[11:31] I'm pointing to myself

[11:34] is that necessary

[11:37] you already see me you already know me

[11:40] so it's utterly unnecessary to point out

[11:43] that swamiatanandanda is sitting here in

[11:46] the same way this expression

[11:49] Um, ama

[11:51] is unnecessary to point out the

[11:54] existence of consciousness.

[11:57] But then what does it do?

[11:59] It actually

[12:02] is negation in disguise.

[12:06] There are certain words, in fact, the

[12:08] remaining words sound positive, but

[12:12] they're negation in disguise.

[12:16] Prata is negation and surprise. It's

[12:19] negating

[12:21] that atma can come and go.

[12:24] That atma might not be present or might

[12:27] not be the same in the three states of

[12:31] experience. So this statement even

[12:34] though it looks purely positive in it's

[12:37] so to speak in disguise it's negating

[12:40] the possibility that atma can come and

[12:43] go that atma in some sense is

[12:46] inconsistent or variable.

[12:50] We'll continue with the uh anything more

[12:52] to do on that one?

[12:55] No.

[13:01] So once again that which is already

[13:04] present and the word the nice Sanskrit

[13:06] word to use is

[13:09] siddha siddha means established

[13:12] established

[13:15] through one's own self. There are very

[13:18] few things in life which are swat siddha

[13:22] selfestablished.

[13:25] What is self-established? Is the world

[13:28] self-established to you?

[13:31] You need your powers of sight, hearing,

[13:33] taste, smell and touch. Without which

[13:36] the world would not be established for

[13:39] you. So therefore the world around you

[13:41] is not siddha. It's pres knowing it

[13:46] depends on something else. Similarly

[13:48] your body is not siddha. Even your mind

[13:53] is not siddha because your mind and its

[13:57] activities are known through

[13:58] consciousness.

[14:02] So what is selfestablished

[14:05] in your own experience

[14:08] and the only thing that's

[14:10] selfestablished

[14:12] siddha is that I am a conscious being

[14:18] simple

[14:20] I am I exist as a conscious being so you

[14:25] don't have to prove it you can't figure

[14:27] it out you don't need your senses to

[14:31] discover it and you certainly don't need

[14:33] vanta

[14:34] to tell you that you are you exist as a

[14:38] conscious being then what does vanta do

[14:42] it destroys your wrong ideas about that

[14:44] conscious being you might you might

[14:47] think that that conscious being is

[14:49] finite is limited is subject to

[14:51] suffering and pain but these teachings

[14:54] can help free you from those wrong

[14:58] concepts about the self-established

[15:00] conscious being that you are and thereby

[15:02] put an end to suffering. Okay, now we

[15:06] can proceed. Yeah, already up. Next word

[15:10] that describes

[15:12] atma is propancha. Upam

[15:16] this is clearly negative. Upam

[15:20] that which is the sessation

[15:22] of propancha.

[15:25] Propanchia literally means that which is

[15:27] made five-fold. But it's a common way of

[15:30] referring to the world because the world

[15:33] is made of five elements. In fact, five

[15:36] elements which have undergone a

[15:38] five-fold kind of transformation called

[15:41] panchi kara. So five elements changed in

[15:44] five different ways. This is propancha.

[15:47] The world is called propancha. Propancha

[15:50] sham.

[15:52] When when the propancha becomes upasha

[15:57] when the world goes away

[16:01] when jagratasta

[16:03] goes away what remains when swapna when

[16:08] your dream world goes away that's also

[16:11] propancha when your dream world goes

[16:14] away what remains that's what's being

[16:17] taught here in the absence of any

[16:20] propunch Propunch will then exist. The

[16:23] world in some way will exist in a waking

[16:25] state and in the dream state. Can't

[16:28] really apply to deep sleep. But in

[16:30] awakening and dream states, when the

[16:32] waking state is absent, when a dream

[16:35] state is absent,

[16:38] such atma remains unchanged. So clearly

[16:44] another form of negation

[16:47] going back to the movie theater analogy

[16:50] when you're you are in the theater

[16:52] watching whatever is happening on that

[16:54] screen in the same way you are the

[16:58] conscious being watching whatever

[17:01] happens in your mind and something we've

[17:03] talked about before propancha the world

[17:08] is only accessible to you through your

[17:12] mind. We've had this discussion before,

[17:16] long ago perhaps, but the only world

[17:20] that you directly experience is a world

[17:24] that has been reconstituted in your

[17:27] mind. We gave that I think when we

[17:29] talked about the movie theater analogy,

[17:31] we we got into this. We said your eyes

[17:34] pick up information about the world

[17:36] projected on the screen of your mind.

[17:38] Your powers of hearing, smell, taste,

[17:41] etc.

[17:42] pick up information about the world and

[17:45] project it on the screen of your mind.

[17:48] Therefore, the world that you experience

[17:50] directly is not the world outside we

[17:53] discussed before. But the world that you

[17:56] experience directly is the world in your

[17:59] mind.

[18:01] Propancha upam the sessation of the

[18:05] world in your mind

[18:09] takes place

[18:12] in deep sleep.

[18:15] Correct? The world in your mind is

[18:18] present now in the waking state. The

[18:20] world in your mind is present in dream

[18:23] state. Present in a different way but

[18:25] absolutely present during dream. So the

[18:28] world in your mind is utterly absent in

[18:31] deep sleep in sushupti.

[18:35] Are you present in sushupti? Is

[18:38] consciousness present in sushupti?

[18:41] Absolutely. That's what this term refers

[18:43] to. So propancha sham in the absence of

[18:47] the world in the absence of any

[18:50] experience in your mind you remain as a

[18:54] conscious observer like I we had the

[18:58] metaphor uh several classes ago standing

[19:01] in a dark closet with your eyes wide

[19:04] open

[19:05] you see even in that utter blackness in

[19:08] the closet you see nothing to be seen

[19:13] Yet you see. All right. Then the next

[19:16] word shantum.

[19:20] Shanta or shanti we think as of as

[19:24] positive words. Peace peacefulness.

[19:29] Negative. Absolutely negative. Though

[19:33] the word shantam or shanti has come from

[19:36] the same root sham. Sham means to be

[19:41] quiet.

[19:44] Huh?

[19:46] And you may have heard me discuss this

[19:47] in some other class, some other context

[19:50] that a very literal translation for

[19:53] Shanti could be quietude.

[19:56] We translate it as peace and it should

[19:58] be translated as peace. But if you want

[20:00] to be very close to the root meaning of

[20:04] shanti be quietudeed. And what's

[20:07] significant about that is quiet is not

[20:09] the presence of something. Right?

[20:13] Quiet is the absence [snorts]

[20:17] of something. Quiet is not a presence.

[20:19] Quiet is an absence.

[20:22] When the kids who are running around the

[20:24] house screaming and crying, when you get

[20:27] rid of the kids, you have shanti.

[20:33] Shanti is an absence. And even when we

[20:37] use shanti in a vantic sense,

[20:41] it's really tapatry

[20:44] uh bada. It's the in the absence of

[20:48] tapataya in the absence of three kinds

[20:51] of affliction

[20:54] adatika.

[20:57] This is not the time or place for a long

[20:59] discussion about shanti but three

[21:01] sources of affliction in life. Some

[21:04] kinds of affliction come from

[21:05] withinatika.

[21:07] Some kinds of affliction come from the

[21:09] world around us.

[21:12] Some kinds of affliction come due to

[21:14] karma due to destiny whatever we want to

[21:17] say come to unknown unknown

[21:20] unpredictable factors we call adi dvaka.

[21:24] So three sources of affliction we pray

[21:29] you know this most of you know this well

[21:31] we pray shanti three times

[21:34] for the absence of these three kinds of

[21:37] affliction.

[21:39] So you're getting it that the word

[21:41] shanti is a negative word. When you're

[21:44] praying for shanti you're not praying to

[21:47] get something

[21:49] you're praying to get rid of something.

[21:52] It's absolutely true and I've joked

[21:55] before if you pray for Shanti Bhagavan

[21:58] cannot give you shanti absolutely cannot

[22:02] give you shanti why if anything shanti

[22:05] is your surupa your true nature you

[22:08] already have shanti you already are such

[22:11] ananda atma bhagavan can't give you what

[22:14] you already are can't give you what you

[22:17] already have so clearly shanti is

[22:22] removal. Three times shanty we pray for

[22:25] the removal of three sources of

[22:27] affliction. Three kinds of affliction.

[22:30] So the word shantam here

[22:34] literally means quiet

[22:38] silent translated here silence.

[22:44] Silence is definitely an abs is a

[22:46] negative word right? Quiet or silence is

[22:49] an absence.

[22:54] But atma is not absent.

[22:58] In silence and this is one of the values

[23:01] of deep meditation. In deep meditation

[23:04] when your mind finally arrives at that

[23:06] point of silence. It can take time. It's

[23:09] worth being patient for. However, to

[23:11] arrive at that place of silence in that

[23:15] utter silence, when that chatter of the

[23:18] mind finally stops, that mind goes on

[23:20] and on and on and on and on and on and

[23:22] on and on. You ever get stuck in a

[23:24] conversation with someone who just won't

[23:26] stop? Your mind is like that. And when

[23:29] that person finally does stop, what a

[23:32] relief it is.

[23:37] In the same way, when your mind's

[23:40] chatter finally comes to a stop,

[23:45] it feels like such a relief because what

[23:50] remains in its absence, what remains in

[23:55] that silence is ananda.

[23:59] So shantam definitely a negative word.

[24:04] Absence of noise, absence of l in this

[24:07] context, absence of any kind of mental

[24:10] activity. In the absence of any kind of

[24:12] mental activity, what remains is sat

[24:16] chit ananda.

[24:19] Then sham

[24:22] careful shiva is both a noun and an

[24:25] adjective.

[24:27] Here it's an adjective

[24:30] and as an adjective it means that which

[24:32] is holy, that which is pure, that which

[24:34] is sacred.

[24:37] So that sounds positive. That which is

[24:40] pure.

[24:44] The word pure is a negative word. It's

[24:47] another negative word in dis in

[24:49] disguise.

[24:51] Pure water means what?

[24:56] no impurities.

[24:59] To get pure water, you have to remove

[25:03] all the impurities.

[25:06] We wouldn't have a word pure, unless

[25:10] there were such things as impurities.

[25:12] So when we say purified water, we're

[25:16] referring to water from which all the

[25:19] impurities have been removed. The word

[25:22] Shiva can in this context has that

[25:25] meaning of pure purity. So it means that

[25:29] which is free from defects that which is

[25:32] free from impurity.

[25:34] Again a positive word masquerading as a

[25:37] negative word really negating

[25:40] any wrong concept about atma. Looking at

[25:45] these words perpancha sham

[25:49] that which abides in the absence of

[25:52] worldly experience

[25:54] shantum this is what's being negated u

[25:57] atma is remains when the world goes away

[26:01] atma remains shantam when thoughts go

[26:04] away atma remains sham

[26:09] when impurities are gone atma remains

[26:12] atma remains free from purity. And the

[26:16] final word here adam

[26:19] clearly a negative word free from dwita

[26:24] free from duality. And remember uh in

[26:27] our prior text I think we had that

[26:30] discussion about adwita. Yeah in

[26:31] kalanishad

[26:33] we said adwita specifically means free

[26:36] absence of three different kinds of

[26:38] duality. Three different kinds of beta

[26:41] said there's absence of the swajatia

[26:45] ba there's no there's no presence

[26:50] swaty of this there's no second atma

[26:54] present there's no second consciousness

[26:56] present let's let's uh try to make this

[26:58] a little more rooted in your experience

[27:01] so when we say atma is adwita there's no

[27:05] swajia

[27:07] meaning there There is no second atma

[27:13] present. No second consciousness

[27:16] present. You have only one

[27:19] consciousness.

[27:20] Some of you may know of something called

[27:22] multiple personality disorder.

[27:28] And such an illness does indeed exist.

[27:32] But multiple personality disorder does

[27:34] not mean multiple consciousnesses.

[27:38] It means multiple personalities.

[27:40] Personalities which are part of your

[27:41] mind

[27:43] hosted by the brain. So those

[27:46] consciousness those personalities can be

[27:49] multiple. Consciousness cannot be

[27:51] multiple. Therefore there's no swajatia

[27:54] beta. There's no vijatia beta. There's

[27:57] nothing other than atma present.

[28:03] There's nothing other than consciousness

[28:05] present. Oh, we should do this briefly.

[28:09] Right now in this experience,

[28:14] there is nothing other than

[28:17] consciousness present.

[28:21] Now you might be thinking,

[28:24] what about

[28:26] the this chair? This chair is not

[28:29] consciousness.

[28:31] Correct? This chair that I'm sitting in

[28:33] is not consciousness. But the chair that

[28:36] you're experiencing is not the chair I'm

[28:38] sitting on.

[28:40] Following me? We talked about this

[28:43] moments ago. The chair I'm sitting on is

[28:46] not the chair you're experiencing

[28:48] directly. The chair you're experiencing

[28:50] directly is a chair in your mind. The

[28:53] chair in your mind is a form whose

[28:56] content is consciousness. Form is not a

[28:59] second thing. There's only

[29:01] consciousness. It is absolutely true

[29:04] that the only thing present in this

[29:07] experience right now is consciousness.

[29:11] Consciousness in the form of all your

[29:13] thoughts.

[29:14] Consciousness

[29:16] as such. Consciousness in both of these

[29:19] forms. We're going to come to that in

[29:20] just a moment. Consciousness in both in

[29:23] two forms. Consciousness as such

[29:27] and consciousness with all of these

[29:30] various forms.

[29:33] Is that two things?

[29:35] It's really one thing, right? It's like

[29:38] two. I [clears throat] need my need my

[29:41] prop.

[29:43] No, I don't need the light. I need this.

[29:53] So, here I have in my hand clay in the

[29:56] form of a pot and clay as such.

[30:01] two things,

[30:03] one thing.

[30:06] But language allows us two points of

[30:09] view. So we can talk about clay as such.

[30:14] We can also call it clay in the form of

[30:16] a pot. In the same way, what's present

[30:19] right now is consciousness as such and

[30:23] consciousness in the form of this

[30:25] experience.

[30:28] It's only one thing. That leads us to

[30:30] the last kind of duality which is um

[30:33] Swagata

[30:35] said there's no second consciousness.

[30:39] There's nothing other than

[30:40] consciousness. This is all what the word

[30:43] adwitas means. Adwita means there's no

[30:46] there's no shat

[30:48] there. There's no second consciousness.

[30:51] Adwita means there's no vijati. There's

[30:54] nothing other than consciousness. And

[30:56] finally adita means there's no swagata

[31:00] there's no internal differentiation.

[31:03] Internal differentiation which means

[31:06] cons your consciousness doesn't have

[31:08] parts and bits. In fact it's not your

[31:11] consciousness at all. There's not a your

[31:13] consciousness and a my consciousness.

[31:15] Consciousness doesn't get chopped up

[31:17] into yours and mine.

[31:20] Consciousness is one and

[31:23] undifferentiated.

[31:27] The pot has a bottom and a top.

[31:31] Does clay

[31:33] have a bottom and top?

[31:37] That's It's so simple. It's really that

[31:39] simple.

[31:41] Consciousness, which is the content of

[31:43] all of your thoughts, that consciousness

[31:46] has no internal

[31:48] variation whatsoever. Your thoughts are

[31:51] infinite in variation. But consciousness

[31:54] in and of itself has no details, has no

[31:58] parts, has no aspects, nothing

[32:01] undifferentiated.

[32:02] Therefore, there's no swag. All of this

[32:06] is indicated by the word adita.

[32:10] So these words,

[32:13] all of which are ultimately negative in

[32:15] meaning. All right. Now

[32:20] we're done,

[32:26] excuse me. We're done with the portion

[32:29] of the vakya that unfolds the nature of

[32:33] atma. Negation, negation, negation,

[32:36] negation. The only thing that sounded

[32:38] close to being positive was akatma

[32:40] pratia. But even that if we look at it

[32:43] closely enough even that can be

[32:45] considered

[32:46] to involve negation. So what is all of

[32:51] this forhate?

[32:55] How did our text begin? Om being broken

[32:59] up into four pasma

[33:05] and the silence. Actually didn't say

[33:07] that at the beginning. It just said auma

[33:10] at the beginning. But it said that there

[33:12] were four parts. So we've already seen a

[33:16] representing jagasta waking state. U

[33:20] representing

[33:21] uh swapna dream state. Makara

[33:25] representing sushupti ofasta deep sleep

[33:29] state. What is the fourth? Here we have

[33:32] it. Chhaturam

[33:35] manante.

[33:36] This one is the fourth. Fourth. This

[33:40] consciousness is a fourth.

[33:43] Be careful.

[33:46] This word forth chhaturum or tim also

[33:50] means fourth. These words are inter

[33:52] interchangeable. Atma is to atma's

[33:55] chhaturum. The fourth.

[33:58] We we saw we actually discussed this

[34:01] once before but we have to come back to

[34:03] that discussion here. Very important.

[34:06] Um, if you have

[34:10] an apple, an orange, a banana, and a

[34:14] grapefruit in a basket,

[34:17] you have four fruits in a basket.

[34:21] Is that the sense that this is a fourth?

[34:25] We have one jagraasta in the basket. One

[34:30] swapna ofasta, one sushuti ofasta and

[34:33] one atma in the basket.

[34:38] Utterly wrong metaphor. You get that?

[34:42] So what would be a better metaphor?

[34:45] We're we're going to see two of them

[34:47] here. Here's first first a simple one.

[34:52] I wish I had two more pops right now.

[34:55] because that would be perfect if I had

[34:57] pot number one,

[35:00] pot number two,

[35:02] and pot number three.

[35:05] I have one, two, three pots

[35:09] and one clay.

[35:13] In that sense, atma is the fourth. It's

[35:17] a trick, isn't it? [laughter]

[35:20] three pots

[35:22] and one clay. Again, we can count three

[35:26] from one perspective. We can count clay

[35:29] from a different perspective. And

[35:30] there's nothing there's no rule that

[35:32] says we can't add them together. After

[35:35] all, we add if you can add one apple

[35:39] plus one orange plus one banana, they're

[35:42] utterly unlike each other. And one

[35:44] grapefruit. If you can add those up and

[35:46] get four, then we can add one pot, two

[35:48] pots, three pots, and even though

[35:50] consciousness is utterly different,

[35:52] apples and oranges, nothing that

[35:54] prevents us from adding and coming up to

[35:58] four. So, chhaturamante,

[36:01] it's considered the fourth in that

[36:04] sense. It's not the fourth in addition

[36:08] to the three.

[36:10] It's the fourth because of which the

[36:13] other three exist.

[36:15] And to make this more clear, this is a

[36:18] there's a very important uh passage in

[36:20] Sri Shankara's commentary. Let's see

[36:23] that part.

[36:32] is param

[36:38] it's called the atma that we're talking

[36:41] about has four parts pot the atma we're

[36:45] talking about has four parts but

[36:49] paramarupa

[36:51] aparamarup

[36:53] what does it say no I'm sorry paramarupa

[36:58] these four parts

[37:00] some of them are param absolutely real.

[37:05] Some of them are a parama not absolutely

[37:10] real. Paramata means absolutely real. So

[37:14] these four fall into these two

[37:16] categories parama and aparama.

[37:21] Well, into what category shall we put

[37:23] them? Absolutely real. Well, that sounds

[37:26] like what we're talking about.

[37:28] Chhatushpat. I'm sorry, the fourth part.

[37:30] Chhaturum. So this atma is the

[37:34] absolutely real one which means the

[37:37] other three jagna

[37:41] are a param not absolutely real. Why are

[37:47] they not absolutely real? This is our

[37:48] our question before uh class in satsang.

[37:52] That which comes and goes is not real.

[37:57] Satyam. Our basic definition of satyam

[38:00] real is that which is

[38:04] that which cannot be negated in the

[38:06] three periods of time past, present,

[38:08] future.

[38:10] That which is that which has always been

[38:13] present, that which is present now, that

[38:15] which will always be present in the

[38:17] future, which then implies therefore

[38:19] unchanging.

[38:22] This is real. Does that apply?

[38:25] unchanging

[38:28] and everlasting.

[38:30] Does that apply to jagra, davista,

[38:33] swapna, sushupti? Absolutely not. So

[38:37] these three are aparam and the fourth

[38:41] consciousness is paramata. And then

[38:43] Shankra goes on

[38:46] talking about the aparam

[38:51] of vidya

[38:54] for of these four the ones that are

[38:57] aparam

[38:59] which means jagritna and sushupti these

[39:03] and this is pure shankaria he says they

[39:06] are a vidyrum

[39:10] they are projected because of ignorance

[39:15] projected because of ignorance.

[39:19] How can that happen? After all, jagrat

[39:22] and sushupti are experiences in your

[39:25] mind.

[39:27] How are they projected by ignorance? You

[39:31] have to understand how shankara thinks.

[39:34] Why do you have a mind in the first

[39:37] place?

[39:39] Because you're born.

[39:42] Why did you get born? Because of some

[39:45] karma.

[39:48] Why did you do those karmmas?

[39:51] Ignorance.

[39:53] A vidya karma. Karma.

[39:56] And so I skipped one, I should say. So

[39:58] why did you do those? Why did you do

[40:00] those karmmas? Because of karma. Desire.

[40:05] We do the whole thing. Why do you have a

[40:07] mind? Because you're born. Why did you

[40:10] get born? Because of karma. Why did you

[40:12] do those karmmas? Because of desire.

[40:17] Right? If you had no desire, would you

[40:20] have come here tonight? If you had no

[40:23] desire, would you get out of bed in the

[40:25] morning? Karma drives karma.

[40:29] So you have because you're born, you

[40:32] have a mind. You're born because of

[40:35] karma. You did those karmas because of

[40:38] karma desire. Why did you have that kama

[40:41] that desire? If such ananda atma is full

[40:44] and complete perfect source of

[40:48] contentment, why did you do any karma in

[40:50] the first place? Ignorance.

[40:54] This is called the granti in vdanta. The

[40:58] three strands that bind us

[41:03] granti the three strands that bind us to

[41:06] a life of suffering. Avidya karma karma

[41:11] avidya ignorance of your true nature as

[41:14] such anandanda atma leading to kama

[41:17] desire leading to karma action leading

[41:22] to one life after another life after

[41:25] another life and in this particular life

[41:27] you have a brain and a mind

[41:31] and in that mind you are now projecting

[41:35] the waking state not projecting In your

[41:38] mind, the waking state is present. Why

[41:41] is the waking state present in your mind

[41:44] right now? Because of ignorance.

[41:48] Now, do you see how Shankaras thinks? He

[41:51] goes to this root cause. Because of

[41:55] ignorance, it's natural that in your

[41:58] mind, the waking state should occur, the

[42:02] dream state should occur later, deep

[42:04] sleep state should occur later. This is

[42:07] the way the minds work. But

[42:10] waking, dream and sleep states are

[42:16] are like the pot.

[42:20] The content of the waking dream and

[42:22] sleep states is consciousness. Right?

[42:27] So the waking dream and sleep states

[42:31] which are born of ignorance that's how

[42:34] you got a mind in the first place these

[42:36] are aparam marta and shri shankra just

[42:40] to make it absolutely clear raju

[42:43] just like the snake that's superimposed

[42:46] on the rope paratrialam

[42:50] this applies this defines the three

[42:54] states of experience

[42:56] The three states of experience in

[42:58] Shankara's words, they are as real as

[43:02] the snake superimposed upon

[43:06] the robe because Shankara takes a very

[43:09] absolute standpoint.

[43:12] Shank is focused on the clay. If you

[43:15] were to ask Shankara, if Shankarachi

[43:17] could could could join us here in class,

[43:21] he he'd say,

[43:23] "What pot are you talking about?

[43:26] [laughter]

[43:28] There's no pot

[43:33] Sri Shankara we use the term vast

[43:37] focused on the reality vast. So this is

[43:41] Shankara's orientation.

[43:44] Then one last statement which is going

[43:46] to get us into another discussion.

[43:48] Shankara finally says anuran

[43:54] he says there's a relationship between

[43:56] the two aaram and param a relationship

[44:00] between the three states of experience

[44:02] and consciousness. He says anuran

[44:07] just like the relationship between the

[44:09] seed and the sprout.

[44:13] He says that the seed

[44:17] gives rise to the sprout. In the same

[44:21] way, consciousness

[44:23] gives rise to the three states of

[44:26] experience. In one way, it's absolutely

[44:29] true, but it can be misunderstood.

[44:33] And I was very surprised. I was um

[44:37] going over my notes when I studied this

[44:39] with Puja Swami Diane in 1989

[44:44] we studied this

[44:48] and I still have my notes to this day

[44:49] and I usually don't don't refer to those

[44:52] notes but this is a rather challenging

[44:54] text so I thought it'd be interesting to

[44:56] go back and I found in this particular

[45:00] place Puja Swamiji actually going in a

[45:03] different direction than Adish Shankara.

[45:06] So here Adish Shankara gives this

[45:08] metaphor of Bjankstania.

[45:12] He says that the um it's just like the

[45:15] the clay is the source of the pot

[45:22] and in the same way consciousness

[45:25] is the source of the three states of

[45:28] experience. That's what that be jankurra

[45:31] the the seed and sprout means.

[45:34] But that's not exactly what Shankara is

[45:38] teaching. Did he give the clay and pot

[45:42] example in the earlier portion here? He

[45:45] gave the ropes snake example.

[45:50] That's a little different. There's a

[45:52] difference between clay pot

[45:55] and

[45:57] rope snake.

[46:00] Right.

[46:02] What is the difference between a clay

[46:04] pot and a rope snake? The clay pot

[46:09] is a pot

[46:12] is clay in the form of pot and the pot

[46:17] has this empirical reality to it. Is

[46:21] that true about the rope snake?

[46:24] We can in one way they're true. They're

[46:27] the same. Clay appears as a pot.

[46:31] Rope appears

[46:33] as a snake.

[46:36] What's the difference? The difference is

[46:38] more subtle than you think.

[46:42] Clay appears

[46:44] as pot. Rope appears as snake. What is

[46:50] the difference? When I tell you this is

[46:52] a clay pot,

[46:55] you do you still see the pot?

[46:59] When I tell you it's a rope, do you

[47:03] still see the snake?

[47:06] Ah, there's there lies a difference.

[47:10] When upon the rise of knowledge, you

[47:14] still experience a pot. But with

[47:17] knowledge of the rope snake, the snake

[47:20] is utterly destroyed.

[47:22] Now the the question is which of these

[47:26] metaphors

[47:28] is more appropriate for understanding

[47:32] the relationship between consciousness

[47:36] and your three states of experience.

[47:41] Intuitively, you might jump on this one

[47:45] that it is and every reason to to go in

[47:48] this direction.

[47:56] Oh gosh,

[47:58] I don't know if we want to get into all

[47:59] of that.

[48:10] And it'll be two more. If we get into a

[48:13] big discussion on this sataria and

[48:15] vivarada, we're we're lost for another

[48:17] class or two. So I don't I'm I want to

[48:20] pull this back a little bit just so so

[48:22] that we stay stay rooted with with our

[48:26] text a little bit more closely.

[48:45] The answer lies in understanding

[48:48] Shankara's view of reality. In Shankra's

[48:52] view,

[48:54] there is no pot. Shankra is focused as

[48:57] we said vast he's focused on the reality

[49:02] to Shankara the pot is about as real as

[49:06] the snake

[49:09] that's shanka's perspective that's a dwa

[49:11] vanta's perspective is to

[49:16] recognize

[49:18] that the world is not as real as it

[49:22] seems

[49:24] and fortunately we live at a time when

[49:26] modern science supports that perspective

[49:30] so brilliantly. When modern science

[49:32] tells us everything is particles and

[49:34] energy and what we see as a chair is not

[49:38] really a chair at all. It's just a

[49:40] certain configuration of particles and

[49:42] energy. It's not even solid. So modern

[49:45] science does a lot to tell us what you

[49:48] see is not what you get.

[49:52] [snorts] And in computer terminology,

[49:54] what you see is what you get is

[49:56] something they talk about on your

[49:57] display screen. But here, according to

[50:00] modern science, what you see is not what

[50:03] you get. The world is not as real as it

[50:06] seems. And what this shows us is that

[50:09] maybe we can't take the pot too

[50:12] seriously.

[50:15] And that's what we're leading up to here

[50:17] in this metaphor.

[50:20] In this example of the Bjankura,

[50:23] the seed

[50:25] and the sprout

[50:28] are equally real.

[50:35] That's not Shankara's main teaching.

[50:37] He's using it to show a logical

[50:40] connection, a logical relationship, a

[50:42] cause effect relationship. And he is

[50:45] correct in using it, but it can be

[50:47] misinterpreted. And this is what what uh

[50:49] my guru was pointing out. Don't

[50:51] misinterpret that bij jankura statement

[50:54] because the seed I'm sorry other way

[50:58] around. The sprout is as real as the

[51:02] seed. Correct.

[51:05] Is the pot as real as the clay?

[51:09] Is the snake as real as the rope?

[51:16] Is your experience as real as the

[51:20] consciousness which is its content?

[51:23] That's what we want to see

[51:26] is that the cons the experience is

[51:31] relative to consciousness. The

[51:34] experience is unreal. In fact, we shank

[51:37] use a term a paramarta as opposed to the

[51:41] paramata sata the absolute reality of

[51:44] consciousness with reference to that the

[51:48] three states of experience are a

[51:50] paramata with reference to the clay the

[51:54] pot is not real with reference to the

[51:57] rope the snake is not real with

[52:00] reference to consciousness

[52:02] your experience right now is unreal.

[52:09] That's it. It's like the pot. How real

[52:14] is the pot? If I have If I have 4 oz of

[52:20] clay,

[52:22] does a pot add anything to it?

[52:26] There's no pot. There's only 4 oz of

[52:30] clay. But I see a form. Fine.

[52:34] You see a form. The form is not a second

[52:38] thing. It is a paramata. Okay, enough

[52:41] said.

[52:42] As I said, we can get into a long

[52:44] discussion here, but we're going to rein

[52:46] it in a little bit. So, finally, the

[52:48] vakya concludes

[52:52] they consider this manante. They

[52:55] consider this to be the fourth that is

[52:58] the consciousness with all of these

[53:00] negating words to remove any possible

[53:03] confusion about consciousness. What

[53:05] remains after all of this negation? They

[53:09] consider that one to be the fourth. As

[53:11] we said before, it's not the fourth in

[53:13] addition to the three. It's the fourth

[53:15] because of which the three states of

[53:17] experience exists

[53:20] exist. And atma

[53:23] that is what we mean by atma the true

[53:27] self

[53:31] that is to be clearly known

[53:35] to be clearly known. Clearly known.

[53:38] Clearly known like the pot in my hand.

[53:44] No. Clearly known like the star in the

[53:48] sky.

[53:50] The star which was already present in

[53:52] your field of view but not known for

[53:56] which it truly is. In the same way, atma

[54:00] is clearly known as the consciousness

[54:03] which is already present in your

[54:05] experience. But you have a chance to

[54:08] understand it as it truly is. Saha.

[54:13] And how do you understand consciousness

[54:15] as it truly is? By negation. by negating

[54:19] everything that it is not. And Shankr

[54:21] comments here. He says

[54:25] abhava says when it is known

[54:29] when consciousness is known as it truly

[54:33] is

[54:36] then what dwa

[54:39] then there is no duality.

[54:43] And we'll see that last point here.

[54:47] Shankara's

[54:48] vision is a very lofty vision.

[54:54] What does it mean to experience

[54:57] nonduality? It really is what he is

[54:59] saying. Yan dwita bhava when such anand

[55:04] atma is known as it truly is duality

[55:07] comes to an end and we often we we can

[55:11] have some kind of naive thoughts about

[55:14] about what is it to experience

[55:16] nonduality

[55:18] and what did in some class I was in a

[55:21] silly mood and I and I said if if

[55:24] someone is enlightened and they

[55:26] experience nonduality

[55:28] how can they tell a doorway from the

[55:32] wall. If you can't differentiate between

[55:35] a doorway and a wall, you're never going

[55:38] to be able to leave the room.

[55:43] But to differentiate a doorway from a

[55:46] wall is duality.

[55:50] So, how silly is that? So, what does it

[55:55] mean? Let's get No, let's get real. What

[55:58] does it mean to experience nonduality?

[56:03] Your experience right now

[56:07] is nonduel.

[56:12] Why? The only thing you experience is

[56:15] consciousness in the form of your

[56:17] thoughts. Consciousness in the form of

[56:20] your experience.

[56:22] And while there's plenty of duality in

[56:24] experience,

[56:26] the consciousness, which is the content

[56:30] of the experience,

[56:32] is utterly nondual.

[56:37] This experience with all of its duality,

[56:41] this experience is made of

[56:43] consciousness. Just like the pot is made

[56:45] of clay, this experience is made of

[56:48] consciousness.

[56:50] And that consciousness happens to be

[56:53] non-dual

[56:54] in spite of all the details of this

[56:57] experience.

[56:59] The content of this experience remains

[57:02] nonduel. Therefore,

[57:05] this experience

[57:07] is indeed an experience of nonduality

[57:12] when it's properly understood.

[57:15] If you're focused on the details of the

[57:17] experience, duality.

[57:20] But if you shift your perspective to

[57:23] appreciate the consciousness underlying

[57:25] the experience, absolutely nonduel.

[57:30] Just like for this pot, this pot has

[57:34] dimension. It has diameter. It has

[57:36] height. It has weight. It has thickness.

[57:42] All these dimensions. Duality.

[57:45] What about clay?

[57:48] Does clay have thickness? Does clay have

[57:52] diameter?

[57:54] Does clay have height? You get the idea.

[57:58] So you experience the pot at one level.

[58:03] You can appreciate the duality involved

[58:05] in the pot. But by shifting your

[58:07] perspective, you can appreciate the pot

[58:10] as being non relatively speaking nondual

[58:14] clay. Clay is not non-dual. It's a

[58:16] metaphor. I'm mixing the metaphors

[58:18] apparently. So if you can appreciate the

[58:22] featureless

[58:24] clay because of which the complex pot

[58:28] exists, then you can appreciate the

[58:32] featureless nondual consciousness

[58:36] because of which this very complex

[58:38] experience exists. This is nonduality

[58:44] for real, not as people imagine it to

[58:49] be. So enough.

[58:52] All right. And that brings us to the end

[58:54] of this amazing passage, the uh seventh

[58:58] vakia of this text. And it's too late to

[59:01] uh continue. The um remaining mantras go

[59:05] back to om break it up into four parts.

[59:10] Earlier it was broken up in three parts.

[59:13] Now we're well three parts plus one. So

[59:17] we're going to revisit in the final

[59:19] verses all four parts. That'll be our

[59:22] next class. We may finish in the next

[59:24] class or we may take one more. A little

[59:26] hard to tell. We will take one more text

[59:29] after this which I'll discuss perhaps in

[59:31] the next in the next class. this it's uh

[59:36] very good to have finished this very

[59:38] important vakya in today's class. It'll

[59:41] conclude with our prayers.

[59:55] Yasha

[1:00:18] may

[1:00:20] shanty shanty

[1:00:23] shanty. See here. Oh, that's it.

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The seventh mantra describes the self, atma, almost entirely through negation: it is not the consciousness of waking, dream, or deep sleep, and it cannot be seen, grasped, inferred, or thought about. Swami Tadatmananda explains that these negations are meant to clear away wrong ideas, leaving consciousness recognized as what is already present in experience.
Words are good at revealing qualities, actions, and relationships, but atma has none of these in the sense that objects do. The teacher adds that words do not need to reveal atma, because revelation is only necessary for something absent, and atma is already present as consciousness.
The metaphor compares the search for a self-evident truth to finding a particular star in the sky: it is somewhere in your field of view, but you don't yet know which point it is. A method of elimination identifies it, just as the negations in the Mandukya Upanishad identify consciousness by ruling out what it is not.
According to the teacher's reading, consciousness is the content of every mental state, much as water is the content of a wave and clay is the content of a pot. Even deep sleep, which he explains theoretically as a thought whose form is pure ignorance, is witnessed by the same consciousness that is present in the other two states.
Siddha refers to something that is established through itself, needing nothing else to prove it. The teacher argues that the world, the body, and even the mind are not self-established because they are known through consciousness, leaving only the statement that one exists as a conscious being.
Watch the classes in sequence, since each session builds on the negations and the three-states analysis of the earlier ones. The videos show the Sanskrit text, Roman transliteration, and translation on screen, which helps you follow the word-by-word reasoning.

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