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Inspiration

Impermanence and the Elements: A Path to Inner Peace

Elena Brower
Elena Brower
Nov 4, 2026
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Diego Perez's new book, Journey: The Year That Changes Everything, is a set of 365 daily reflections designed to build self-awareness and inner peace, and it is organized not by calendar months but by the four elements of fire, air, earth and water. In a livestream published in November 2026, Perez and the teacher Elena Brower talked through the book's architecture, its central idea that transformation is possible but slow, and the claim that stress grows out of attachment. The conversation is a useful entry point even if you never open the book: it lays out a working philosophy of impermanence, the case for reflection before reaction, and a practical picture of how a life is built from repeated actions.

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What does it look like when a teacher's practice reaches the living room?

The scene is domestic. Brower opens by saying she has been practicing Vipassana since August, a few months earlier, after attending a ten-day course with Perez. She has kept up an hour in the morning and another in the evening, and she admits that some sessions leave her tired. Then comes the detail that gives the conversation its warmth: her partner, James, who used to fall asleep beside her at night, now sits with her. "It's contagious," she says.

That small moment of a practice spreading through a household is a fair picture of what the book hopes to do for its readers. It does not ask for a dramatic retreat or a new identity. It asks for a shift in how you move through an ordinary day, and it expects that shift to be noticed first by the people closest to you.

Why build a book around the elements instead of the calendar?

Most self-help books are structured by time: thirty days, twelve weeks, a year of weekly goals. Perez went another way. He told Brower that when a friend asked how the book worked, he answered that "it's not time based. It's based on the elements." His reasoning was that change "can happen at any time, at any point in your life," so a timeline felt like the wrong frame.

The elements give the book its questions. Perez framed them as lenses rather than facts about the world. He described how we feel them directly in the body: the warmth of fire in the temperature of the body, the heaviness or lightness of earth, the movement of air, and water as cohesion, "the binding element that's bringing everything together." He also pointed out that the same five-part logic shows up across traditions. "Ancient Chinese philosophy, ancient Buddhist teachings, Vedic teachings — the elements are there," he said, and he noted he had recently been watching Avatar: The Last Airbender, which he described as being about the elements too, a reminder of how durable the framework is in modern culture.

Each element then asks a practical question. Perez offered examples: what can earth teach about balance and nourishment, and what can air teach about adaptability? The structure turns each reflection into a small test of behavior, not just a thought to hold.

Where does change begin, and why does it take so long?

Brower described fire as the element where the journey starts. In her words, fire is "the energy of transformation," the momentum that makes a change possible. She added that "it is never the wrong time to initiate a change" in habits, conduct or relationships.

Perez was candid that the timeline is the hard part. He wanted the book to be "an honest sort of realization that transformation is possible, but it's not going to be fast." His words were blunt: "It's going to take time. It's going to take repeated actions." Many readers will recognize the gap he is describing, between knowing a principle and living it. He put it this way: "We all know what causes sorrow to us at the intellectual level, but we don't have it ingrained in us to fully embrace change and permanence on a moment-to-moment basis."

That gap is where the book does its work. Reading a reflection is easy. Noticing, in the middle of a Tuesday, that you are gripping an outcome is not. The reflections are designed to be stopping points you return to, not a curriculum you finish.

Why does stress come from attachment?

The conversation centered on one reflection from the fire section, read aloud by Brower: "Three simple yet overlooked rules about stress. Stress happens when you get too attached. Craving more control makes stress worse. Acceptance and letting go dissolve stress." She acknowledged the reader's likely reaction: "I know these things. Of course I know these things." Her reply was that the point is not novelty. We forget from moment to moment that no feeling is final, and we grab onto what we want to continue, what we want to end, and the pain or joy we are in.

Perez agreed and made it concrete. "When I fight change, I struggle. If I become too attached, I'm going to feel a lot of stress." He suggested a series of questions to ask during the day: "Notice where you're holding on. How are you holding on through the day? I see that I want things to happen in a very exact way. Where can I loosen up? How can I become more adaptable?"

This is the most useful idea in the talk for a general reader. Stress is not framed as a character flaw or a sign of weak willpower. It is framed as a pattern of grip. Once you can see the grip, the question changes from "why am I stressed?" to "where am I holding on?"

Brower then read a line from a later reflection about control, and the conversation turned toward what happens when we try to manage other people. She spoke of a "beautiful power" that becomes available when the effort to control others softens. The passage was brief in the excerpt, but it points to the same logic: the less we demand that the world arrange itself, the more capacity we have to respond to it.

What is impermanence in practical terms?

Perez returned repeatedly to the reality that everything changes. Brower read a reflection that begins with the image of "an ever-flowing river," a line that captures impermanence without turning it into gloom. A river is not diminished by the fact that the water moves. Its shape comes from the movement.

Impermanence is an uncomfortable teaching if you treat it as loss. The conversation suggested a different use of it: as a reason to act now, while the conditions are present. If nothing is final, then the choices you make today are not locked in forever. Neither is the pain you are carrying.

How do we become the actions we repeat?

The most striking claim Perez made is also the simplest: "We are the sum total of our actions." He argued that when we intentionally design our actions, "we are creating and recreating ourselves into new modes." He was careful not to privilege one method. Whether you meditate, have a serious yoga practice, or see a therapist, he said, "it still comes back down to your actions. What actions are you choosing and which actions are you repeating? And that's how you design yourself and your life."

He also named the thing that makes this hard: busyness. "I haven't really met someone who's not busy," he said, and he linked busyness to impulsiveness. "Impulsiveness also just creates a mess." The book's arc, as he described it, is a sequence of small pauses. You feel the impulse coming on, you pause, you reflect, and you look at the options in front of you before choosing something skillful. Through that repeated process, he suggested, you develop self-awareness, inner peace, and actions that create a more harmonious life.

Brower summed up the book's spine as "slow down and focus." Perez's response was a yes, with a caveat: the slowing down is not an end in itself. It creates the space where a different action becomes possible.

Where to go from here

If this conversation made you curious, the most useful next step is not to read everything at once. Choose one element and one habit. Notice where you are gripping, where you are reacting, and where you can pause. Perez's framing suggests that the value is in repetition, not in intensity.

For readers who want to go deeper, the book itself is the primary source. The livestream is worth watching for the tone of the conversation: two practitioners who clearly know each other well, comfortable with laughter and with admitting that they still struggle. Keep in mind that this article draws on the opening portion of the talk, and the book's full sequence of reflections, including its closing on earth, is best read directly rather than reconstructed from quotations.

The honest takeaway from both voices is the one Perez opened with: change is possible at any point in a life, and it is not going to be fast. What it asks is simpler and harder. Notice the grip. Pause before the impulse. Choose the next action, and then choose it again tomorrow.

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[0:00] Welcome.

[0:02] Welcome, welcome. My name is Elena

[0:03] Brower. I am having the great honor

[0:06] today of hosting one of my dearest

[0:07] friends, Diego Perez, who has just

[0:10] written a new book.

[0:11] I believe it is his best. It's called

[0:13] Journey The Year That Changes

[0:16] Everything.

[0:17] I have a very personal story to share,

[0:19] but first I want to welcome you to this

[0:22] live. Diego, thank you so much for your

[0:24] time.

[0:25] >> Yeah, I'm so happy to be here and

[0:28] anytime the two of us get to spend a

[0:30] moment together, I like deeply look

[0:32] forward to it. So yeah, happy happy we

[0:35] get to do it with the with our Substack

[0:37] homies.

[0:37] >> Yes. I I need to start by thanking you

[0:42] for this book. This is a very If you're

[0:44] watching or listening into the future,

[0:47] this is a very unique opportunity to

[0:50] share

[0:52] observations,

[0:54] perceptions from directly from the field

[0:57] of practice.

[0:58] Diego has had a very deep practice for

[1:01] well over a decade, 15 years or so. And

[1:04] this book is a reflection of this

[1:08] practice. I'm going to start by saying

[1:10] that I have been practicing Vipassana

[1:14] since August of this year, a mere few

[1:17] months.

[1:18] After going to my first 10-day course

[1:20] with Diego, I have kept up my practice

[1:24] of an hour in the morning and an hour

[1:26] mostly in the evenings. Sometimes I get

[1:29] really tired, but here's the best part.

[1:32] Before we jump into the book,

[1:34] now when I sit at night before bed,

[1:36] guess who also is sitting with me over

[1:38] my shoulder on the bed.

[1:40] >> Who?

[1:41] >> James.

[1:42] >> Wow.

[1:44] Oh, that's so nice.

[1:46] >> Who would always sleep.

[1:47] Now he sits.

[1:49] He sits. It's contagious.

[1:52] >> And he's going to do a 10-day retreat

[1:54] soon, right?

[1:54] >> Correct.

[1:56] >> Yeah.

[1:56] >> Correct.

[1:57] >> Oh, that's that's that's so exciting.

[1:59] >> It's so exciting.

[2:00] >> But this book is very important for our

[2:03] viewer. 365 daily reflections for you to

[2:06] build self-awareness, inner peace.

[2:09] I have a lot of notes and I want to

[2:11] start with the main message which I have

[2:13] ascertained and you have stated several

[2:15] times. The main message is to slow down

[2:18] and focus.

[2:19] >> Mm.

[2:19] >> Live your life.

[2:22] >> Yeah, that's definitely definitely the

[2:23] message and I think um I when I wrote

[2:26] the book I saw that message coming up

[2:28] over and over again how

[2:30] we are so inundated by information.

[2:34] Everyone is so busy. I haven't really

[2:35] met someone who's not busy. It's been a

[2:37] long time.

[2:39] Um like everyone is just sort of

[2:41] jam-packed and

[2:42] >> It's true.

[2:42] >> I think busyness um

[2:45] really makes it so that it's hard to not

[2:48] be impulsive and impulsiveness also just

[2:53] creates a mess. Uh so I find that

[2:56] slowing down and actually like getting

[2:59] to know your inner world and realizing

[3:01] okay, I feel the impulsiveness coming

[3:03] on. I'm going to pause.

[3:06] I'm going to slow down and I'm going to

[3:08] reflect and I'm going to figure out how

[3:11] can I take a good look at the options in

[3:13] front of me and choose something

[3:15] skillful. I think that that is like the

[3:17] arc of the book because through that

[3:19] process you'll develop self-awareness,

[3:21] you'll develop inner peace, you'll make

[3:23] better actions that will just like

[3:26] create a much more harmonious life for

[3:27] yourself.

[3:28] >> Yeah.

[3:29] In this book, Diego, you basically walk

[3:32] us through the

[3:35] [clears throat] understanding of

[3:36] impermanence through the four elements

[3:38] of fire, air, earth, water, and then

[3:42] earth. We close on earth.

[3:45] I would love for you to share with our

[3:47] viewer exactly what your intention was

[3:51] for walking through [clears throat] the

[3:52] elements. I feel like it's a lot deeper

[3:54] than I'm even able to perceive at this

[3:56] early stage in my practice of a pasana,

[3:59] but I would love to hear from you what

[4:01] your understanding intention was.

[4:04] >> So,

[4:05] I I find the elements to be so

[4:07] fascinating and it's just a common

[4:10] feature of being a human being. Like we

[4:12] are very familiar with these elements

[4:15] either outside of us or inside of us. We

[4:17] can like, you know, literally feel them.

[4:19] Uh you can feel the fire in the

[4:21] temperature of your body. You can feel

[4:22] the the earth and the heaviness of your

[4:25] body or the lightness of your body. Um

[4:27] you can feel air and movement and, you

[4:29] know, water uh is cohesion. It's like

[4:32] the binding element that's bringing

[4:34] everything together.

[4:35] And

[4:36] to me it's fascinating that even if you

[4:38] look at like ancient Chinese philosophy

[4:40] the elements are there. Ancient Buddhist

[4:42] teachings the elements are there. You go

[4:44] through Vedic teachings the elements are

[4:46] there. And you then you fast forward to

[4:48] now where you look at modern media. I

[4:51] just started watching Avatar Seven

[4:53] Havens and it's about the elements. And

[4:57] it's such an sweet show, but I wanted to

[5:00] you know, I've always been inspired by

[5:02] the elements in my writing and I've

[5:05] written a lot of poems that are sort of

[5:07] based on the elements, but I wanted this

[5:09] book

[5:11] to be an honest

[5:13] sort of realization that transformation

[5:15] one is possible, but it's not going to

[5:17] be fast. It's going to take time. It's

[5:19] going to take repeated actions. And you

[5:23] know, I was talking to Hoda the other

[5:25] day and she was asking

[5:27] you know, how the book works. And I was

[5:29] like, oh, it's not it's not time based.

[5:31] It's it's based on the elements. And she

[5:33] was And I'm like, cuz change can happen

[5:35] at any time, at any point in your life.

[5:37] So, it felt really valuable to just

[5:41] you know, let's see what this earth

[5:43] element can teach me about balance. What

[5:45] can um air teach me about adaptability?

[5:48] What can earth teach me about um yeah,

[5:51] about balance and nourishment and all

[5:53] that? So, it's a it's a nice way to to

[5:56] to do something a little different with

[5:57] this habit building.

[5:59] >> The fire is where you start and fire is

[6:01] the energy to move us forward. It's the

[6:03] energy of transformation. It's the way

[6:05] in which we gain this sort of momentum

[6:08] to make a change, as you say.

[6:10] It is never the wrong time to initiate a

[6:13] change in our lives, in our habit

[6:15] energies, in the ways in which we

[6:16] conduct ourselves in our relations.

[6:19] And I wonder if I could start by reading

[6:22] uh fire [clears throat] number six.

[6:26] >> Sure, please.

[6:26] >> Okay.

[6:28] Three simple yet overlooked rules about

[6:31] stress.

[6:33] Stress happens when you get too

[6:34] attached.

[6:36] Craving more control makes stress worse.

[6:41] Acceptance and letting go dissolve

[6:43] stress.

[6:45] And if you're watching us and you think,

[6:47] well, I know these things. Of course I

[6:48] know these things. Don't be ridiculous.

[6:50] This is not new information. Accept that

[6:52] it is because we forget from moment to

[6:55] moment that no feeling is final. We

[6:58] forget and we sort of grab onto this

[7:00] thing that we want to continue or this

[7:03] thing that we want to end or this pain

[7:05] that we have or this joy that we have

[7:08] and we can't get out of the cycle of

[7:10] wanting. And I would love for you to

[7:11] talk about stress as you define it in

[7:15] this book.

[7:16] >> Yeah.

[7:17] It's so it's so nice to hear you say

[7:19] that too because

[7:21] it's true. We all know what causes

[7:25] sorrow to us at the intellectual level,

[7:28] but we don't have it ingrained in us to

[7:32] fully embrace change and permanence

[7:36] on a, you know, moment-to-moment basis.

[7:39] So it's easy for us to forget that,

[7:42] right, when I fight change,

[7:44] I struggle. If I become too attached,

[7:46] yeah, I'm going to feel a lot of stress.

[7:48] And so it's one thing to know these

[7:50] things at an intellectual level and to

[7:52] read them

[7:53] um which can be quite inspiring, but the

[7:55] point of this is like let these moments

[7:59] of reflection inspire you to pay

[8:02] attention to your actions. So it's like,

[8:03] okay, notice where you're holding on.

[8:06] How are you holding on through the day?

[8:07] Okay, I see that I want things to happen

[8:10] in a very exact way. Where can I loosen

[8:12] up? How can I become more adaptable? And

[8:15] I tried to set up the book, you know, I

[8:16] learned a lot from from meditating, but

[8:19] I want

[8:20] the realization to be clear that we

[8:24] as human beings, we're composed of

[8:26] actions. Like what are we? We are the

[8:28] sum total of our actions. And when we

[8:32] start intentionally designing our

[8:34] actions, we are creating and recreating

[8:36] ourselves into new modes. And I think

[8:39] whether you meditate, whether you, you

[8:41] know, have a very serious yoga practice,

[8:43] whether you see a therapist, whatever it

[8:45] is, it still comes back down to your

[8:47] actions.

[8:48] What actions are you choosing and which

[8:49] actions are you repeating? And that's

[8:51] how you design yourself and your life.

[8:53] And I think

[8:55] takes time and that's okay. And but

[8:58] that's really where our power lies is

[9:00] how are how am I showing up in this

[9:01] moment and what actions am I choosing?

[9:04] >> You dedicated this book to those who

[9:06] have the courage to grow. And number

[9:08] three in Fire is the following.

[9:11] Never forget that your first home is

[9:13] your mind.

[9:14] So do your best to not clutter it with

[9:17] stress.

[9:18] That I believe if I was to sort of

[9:21] narrow it down to one pithy

[9:24] quote or page, that's the one that I

[9:27] particularly needed right now. That is

[9:29] what gives me the courage to grow is to

[9:32] stop cluttering my mind [clears throat]

[9:33] and knowing that it is my very first

[9:35] home and I have to take such good care

[9:37] of it. As good care as I take of my

[9:39] body, I must take care of my mind.

[9:42] >> I I it's so

[9:44] important that that one is like one

[9:48] people are like, what about your heart?

[9:49] What about your body? When I look at

[9:53] this system, I don't

[9:55] divide it too much into sections. Like

[9:57] to me

[9:59] mind is the totality of it all. Like in

[10:04] this monk, Lady Saita, he talked about

[10:08] the heart being the sort of the highest

[10:11] part of the mind.

[10:13] And but all I think of it all as like

[10:15] encompass into like this, you know, how

[10:18] is mind and matter coming together and

[10:20] there's mind

[10:21] happening in every atom of the body if

[10:23] you look at the sort of the Buddhist

[10:25] teaching.

[10:25] >> Yeah.

[10:26] >> So we have to ask ourselves like

[10:28] am I moving with ease or am I moving

[10:30] with tension? Cuz if you're sort of

[10:32] bundled up into tension, then you are

[10:36] having a very very cluttered home. You

[10:39] know, your your home is narrow. Your

[10:40] home is like you know, there's no

[10:43] flexibility to be able to see different

[10:45] options and I think we have to be really

[10:47] mindful and honest with ourselves where

[10:51] you know, the biggest question is like

[10:54] what stress am I causing myself?

[10:57] >> Mm.

[10:57] >> Like what do you have control over? You

[10:58] have control over your own actions.

[11:00] There's a lot that you don't have

[11:01] control over because so much is outside

[11:04] of your field of control, but then at

[11:06] the end of the day, your perception and

[11:08] your reaction are happening in your own

[11:09] mind and you have to be honest like how

[11:12] am I clinging? How am I holding? How am

[11:15] how how am I making this challenging

[11:16] moment even harder for myself?

[11:18] >> Mm.

[11:18] >> And then you know, you get some clear

[11:20] direction there.

[11:21] >> Number 26 in Fire.

[11:25] How to support your freedom. When you

[11:27] have self-worth, this is a big one. This

[11:30] is a source of stress for me for many

[11:32] years. When you have self-worth, you

[11:34] won't try to control how others perceive

[11:36] you.

[11:37] >> Mm.

[11:39] Yeah.

[11:40] >> Which will lead to inner peace. This has

[11:42] been a many multi-decade project in my

[11:46] body. And finally, 56 years old this

[11:50] year, I finally understand what you're

[11:52] saying.

[11:53] When I can't control how others perceive

[11:55] me, I can't even

[11:57] clutter my mind with the thought about

[12:00] it.

[12:01] >> Yeah.

[12:01] >> There is a deep peace in here finally.

[12:05] >> Yeah. That that one's like if you want

[12:07] to give yourself a beautiful gift this

[12:09] year, like give yourself the gift of not

[12:12] trying to sort of control how other

[12:15] people perceive you or even really

[12:18] worrying about it too much because

[12:21] you have to look back at history and

[12:23] like, man, there are people who hated

[12:26] the Buddha. There are people that hated

[12:28] Jesus. There are people that like you

[12:30] sort of look at these ideal sort of

[12:34] you know, archetypes in human history

[12:36] and

[12:37] you can be the most saintly, noble,

[12:40] enlightened person and still there are

[12:42] going to be people who

[12:44] won't understand you, who won't like it,

[12:47] who won't like who will just be

[12:49] committed to misunderstanding you. And

[12:51] I'm not saying like we're all there. No,

[12:52] we're all we're all highly imperfect

[12:54] people, but when you realize that

[12:56] everyone is when they see you, they're

[13:00] not getting a clear picture of you. They

[13:01] are seeing you through the lens of their

[13:04] emotional history. They are seeing you

[13:05] through the lens of the heaviest emotion

[13:08] that they feel in that moment. So it's

[13:10] very very hard to see someone clearly,

[13:13] to see someone without any projection.

[13:15] It's possible, but it requires mental

[13:18] training. So we have to be very mindful

[13:20] that like,

[13:21] you know, you can do your best out

[13:22] there, definitely be a kind person, be

[13:24] oriented towards compassion, do your

[13:26] best, but even then the haters will

[13:29] still hate.

[13:30] >> [laughter]

[13:30] >> This is the truth of life. And in our I

[13:33] picked that one specifically, number 26

[13:36] in A because in our world right now, we

[13:39] have both come up in this world, so much

[13:42] of the work of sharing our good work has

[13:46] to do with

[13:48] presenting it to others in a way that we

[13:49] get to see in real time their perception

[13:52] of us. So it's a very sticky wicket and

[13:55] I'm glad that you wrote about that

[13:57] because it's really changed the way that

[13:59] I see things in a profound

[14:00] >> Yeah.

[14:02] You know, even going going deeper into

[14:03] that too, Elena, like you know even

[14:05] before I did, right? Like you were on

[14:07] the scene as a as a a teacher for people

[14:10] in in New York City and

[14:12] and then as I started talking about

[14:14] these topics too, I would see, you know,

[14:18] even on the good end, like people sort

[14:19] of putting you on a pedestal or people

[14:21] being like, you know, thinking that I'm

[14:23] more than what I am, like I'm just

[14:25] another person on the journey with you.

[14:27] I'm walking the path with you. And and

[14:30] yeah, I've I've meditated a lot, but I

[14:31] don't make any claims to perfection. I

[14:33] don't make any claims to even

[14:35] enlightenment. I just am here on this

[14:37] path of freedom.

[14:39] But um I think it's really interesting

[14:41] how even when the perceptions are kind

[14:44] we have to make sure that our

[14:45] perceptions of others

[14:47] don't become so tilted where we see them

[14:49] as higher and us as lower, because then

[14:51] we forget that

[14:53] magic can flow from us as well as

[14:55] individuals. Like when I look whenever

[14:57] I'm standing in front of a crowd and

[14:59] speaking to them, I think about

[15:01] the magic of these individuals and how

[15:05] they're holding the arc of peace, right?

[15:07] Like they're holding the arc of peace

[15:08] for humanity because they're they care

[15:10] enough to keep developing themselves and

[15:12] trying to make sure to assess like,

[15:14] okay, where can I create more harmony in

[15:16] my life? And that harmony that you're

[15:18] sort of building in yourself and exuding

[15:20] outward, that's adding to the total

[15:22] peace of humanity. So, you know, we

[15:25] there's so much magic spilling out of

[15:27] every single one of us.

[15:29] >> Air 02. We move on to the element of

[15:31] air. Air is motion,

[15:35] change, emotional intelligence, mental

[15:37] agility, freedom, skillfulness,

[15:40] flexibility. That's the first page of

[15:42] the air chapter.

[15:44] But air 02 really touched me. Let your

[15:46] identity change

[15:48] because everything has changed.

[15:50] And so many times over these three

[15:52] decades more of working in this realm,

[15:55] in various ways I have let my identity

[15:57] change.

[15:59] People are always asking me about this

[16:00] and the the truth that you've stated,

[16:02] sticking to one idea of who you are will

[16:04] eventually feel like clothes that no

[16:07] longer fit.

[16:09] Our universe is an ever-flowing river

[16:11] that has a clear forward direction.

[16:13] Working with the universe means

[16:15] realizing that you are a being of

[16:17] change. Life has chapters. Forcing your

[16:21] preferences, standards, boundaries, and

[16:22] likes and dislikes to remain the same

[16:25] does not take into account that it is

[16:26] impossible to remain static.

[16:29] Impossible. Letting your identity flow

[16:32] like an air current is not only a

[16:34] foundational requirement to real inner

[16:36] peace, you write.

[16:38] It is the essence of building a

[16:40] fulfilling life.

[16:42] >> Mm.

[16:43] Yeah.

[16:44] >> Wow.

[16:44] >> When you when you study

[16:47] the universe, you are studying

[16:50] existence.

[16:51] And when you're studying this with your

[16:54] eyes closed,

[16:55] you see how

[16:58] things bind together for the mind and

[17:01] the matter of, you know, that's creating

[17:03] this sort of system, this Diego, this

[17:05] conception of I, how it all binds

[17:07] together

[17:09] in a very momentary situation. And

[17:12] we're all alive. We're all experiencing

[17:14] life right now because of change,

[17:16] because of the movement of change. If

[17:17] the universe were static,

[17:19] we would not be able to experience

[17:21] anything.

[17:22] Um and to me, what does that mean? It's

[17:25] I'm alive now,

[17:26] so let me do my best to work with the

[17:29] universe instead of against it. And I'm

[17:31] constantly challenging myself with this

[17:34] because when I try to

[17:36] be attached, which is basically flowing

[17:38] against the current of the universe,

[17:40] life hurts. Life hurts immediately. You

[17:42] immediately start building tension. You

[17:44] immediately start accruing greater

[17:46] amounts of delusion. Your view of

[17:49] reality becomes more unclear.

[17:51] And then I ask myself like, you know,

[17:54] what are we all learning? We're we're

[17:55] learning how to flow with this

[17:59] river of change that can only flow

[18:01] forward. And

[18:03] uh the the more that I meditate, the

[18:04] more that I see like, what's my job?

[18:06] Like, my job is to embrace change. When

[18:09] I embrace change, not only does that

[18:10] open the door

[18:12] to peace, but it opens the door to

[18:15] wisdom. And one of the clearest things

[18:17] that wisdom is trying to

[18:19] imbue is, oh, why are you hanging to

[18:22] your sense of self so tightly?

[18:25] These labels that were once helpful may

[18:28] not be helpful right now. You know, this

[18:30] one understanding that you may have

[18:32] gotten from about yourself when you were

[18:34] 21 may be totally not right when you're

[18:38] 38. And it's really interesting seeing

[18:41] how

[18:42] now that this tightness of identity is

[18:45] is looser,

[18:46] there's just so much more happiness, so

[18:48] much more love, and it's like, oh, like

[18:50] let me have curiosity towards my

[18:52] preferences. Like what do I like now

[18:54] that I didn't like before? And it's it's

[18:56] just so interesting.

[18:57] >> The same as you would do as if you were

[18:58] supporting a friend through a

[19:00] transition, you know, it's the very same

[19:02] energy.

[19:03] Uh to that end, air number 14,

[19:06] witnessing the way you move between

[19:08] calmness and storms

[19:10] will help you come to terms with the

[19:12] fact that the world does this too.

[19:15] >> [laughter]

[19:15] >> We're watching this in real time and

[19:17] current events

[19:17] >> In real time, yeah.

[19:22] >> Yeah, yeah. It's a It's incredible how

[19:27] no matter what, some people are happy

[19:28] and some people are disappointed. And

[19:30] And it And it just like that is how life

[19:34] flows. And I think when you take a

[19:37] spiritual context of like this earthly

[19:39] realm,

[19:40] I was talking to friends about it.

[19:42] And I'm like, this earthly realm

[19:45] sits between heaven and hell.

[19:47] And

[19:49] it means that there are going to be

[19:51] parts of the earth that are so beautiful

[19:53] and so qualities that we have that are

[19:55] so, you know, evidently compassionate

[19:58] and powerful, and then other aspects of

[20:00] earth that are like so hellish, right?

[20:02] Like we we see

[20:04] the most horrible things, the capacity

[20:06] for such horrendous amounts of harm.

[20:09] And And I think that doesn't mean

[20:11] passiveness, right? That doesn't mean

[20:12] like, oh, the earth always be like that,

[20:14] but it's to understand like

[20:16] this flow of change, like it just

[20:19] reveals so much of what's inside of us.

[20:21] And

[20:22] even when you close your eyes and take a

[20:24] look inside, you're getting a good look

[20:27] at humanity too. You see the darkness,

[20:29] you see the light, you see the different

[20:31] pathways that you can take and it's a

[20:34] it's a big choice for all of us to say,

[20:36] okay, I see my darkness, I create space

[20:39] for my darkness, I'm letting it

[20:41] lessen in a way where I'm not

[20:43] suppressing anything. I'm just letting

[20:45] it

[20:45] evaporate so that there can be more

[20:47] light so it's easier for me to flow in

[20:49] kindness.

[20:51] >> Your meditation practice was of great is

[20:54] continuing to be of great benefit to me

[20:56] when I sat the course and you and your

[20:59] wife Sarah were sitting in the Dharma

[21:00] seats

[21:01] and I would get to just gently hear the

[21:04] way in which you were instructing the

[21:05] gentlemen who would come to you with

[21:07] questions.

[21:08] And it was very similar to this where I

[21:11] just want to alert our viewer,

[21:13] we are very lucky to have this look,

[21:17] this closeness, this intimacy with the

[21:19] field of practice through a person who's

[21:21] fully committed to it. And this book,

[21:24] I'm going to keep reading from it,

[21:26] Journey, The Year That Changes

[21:27] Everything,

[21:28] is a distillation

[21:30] of your practice [clears throat] day by

[21:33] day by day.

[21:35] Air number 34, 33 and 34, I think

[21:38] they're both worth it.

[21:40] I by the way I'm taking like major

[21:42] notes.

[21:44] I love adding my notes. Emotional

[21:46] maturity doesn't just happen on its own.

[21:49] It is usually gradually developed

[21:52] when you recognize different qualities

[21:54] that you need to strengthen. So when I

[21:57] close my eyes and I see something like

[21:59] rancor or jealousy or dishonesty even,

[22:03] I have to let it sit and let it roll

[22:06] through, wash through, blow through,

[22:09] sweep through my consciousness until

[22:11] slowly as you just said, it kind of

[22:13] starts to lose its luster and it

[22:15] evaporates. Can you talk to us a little

[22:17] bit about

[22:19] how that process has happened for you,

[22:22] this

[22:23] evaporation, evaporate evaporative

[22:26] quality of these darknesses within us.

[22:30] >> Yeah, it's

[22:31] I almost like the word evaporate

[22:34] more than burning, right? Like it burns

[22:36] away

[22:37] and it does feel like a a lightness now

[22:40] where in the past when I first started

[22:42] meditating there was so much heaviness

[22:43] that you can just feel this fire inside

[22:46] that slowly, you know, you're no longer

[22:47] adding wood to the fire so the fire will

[22:49] burn itself out.

[22:52] But

[22:53] it's been so interesting over the years

[22:55] where

[22:56] people ask me like what's your what's

[22:58] your goal? Like why why do you write?

[23:00] Why continue to keep keep writing? I'm

[23:02] like I want people to know that their

[23:04] minds are malleable. Like my my my mind

[23:07] felt so heavy for so long, you know,

[23:10] like

[23:11] being being an immigrant and then being

[23:13] a poor immigrant on top of that and like

[23:16] having such challenging

[23:18] moments in my life where

[23:20] it was this constant struggle of

[23:22] poverty. It just made my mind so heavy,

[23:24] so fearful, so anxious, so

[23:28] sort of, you know, based around

[23:29] scarcity.

[23:30] And

[23:31] as I started meditating

[23:33] I could feel

[23:35] first witnessing the pattern, like

[23:37] seeing it and it's like whoa, it's there

[23:39] and I see the impulsiveness and I see

[23:41] the way it tries to take over and I see

[23:43] the way it tries to repeat itself over

[23:46] and over again.

[23:47] And now, you know, having had

[23:50] a number of years in this practice it's

[23:52] like

[23:53] I can see those patterns there but

[23:55] they're lighter because I've given them

[23:57] space to be

[23:59] and to be in a way where I'm not

[24:02] immediately becoming them. I'm not

[24:04] feeling them. I'm just like ooh,

[24:06] there's that fear again. There's that

[24:07] scarcity mindset. There's this

[24:10] you know, hunger for survival. And

[24:13] and I can just give it presence. Like

[24:15] it's just loving loving presence and

[24:17] then

[24:18] the heaviness will evaporate and it's so

[24:21] nice, you know, it's so interesting

[24:23] because it's so so for everybody who's

[24:25] watching now, right?

[24:26] So I don't

[24:28] um promote I teach meditation.

[24:31] I um

[24:33] the course that Elena sat with us

[24:36] that was probably the 15th or so 10-day

[24:39] course that I've taught and my wife has

[24:41] taught many too and

[24:43] um

[24:44] it's so interesting having this part of

[24:46] life where you know publicly I'm I I I

[24:49] speak and I write books privately

[24:53] this sort of space of meditation is the

[24:55] only space in my life where no money's

[24:56] involved. So like I don't get paid to

[24:58] teach, right? Like Elena also when she

[25:00] came to the 10-day course she didn't pay

[25:01] to be there and people can give

[25:04] donations and what not

[25:05] at the very end if they finish the

[25:07] course and it's so interesting how

[25:10] I love having this um

[25:13] you know it's just the only part of my

[25:14] life that has no money involved and and

[25:16] it's also interesting where you know

[25:18] there's a teacher SN Goenka who's like

[25:20] taught the courses and and where they're

[25:23] as assistant teachers sort of supporting

[25:25] uh the teaching of that technique and

[25:28] helping students just understand how to

[25:30] how to apply it properly. But it's it's

[25:32] really so great to have that moment with

[25:35] you Elena where

[25:36] the whole course you know I was I was

[25:38] sitting there on the Dhamma seat but

[25:40] then like watching you go through

[25:43] you know like you're literally traveling

[25:44] through the universe right in front of

[25:45] me.

[25:45] >> Waves.

[25:46] >> And yeah and it was just incredible to

[25:49] see and I think

[25:51] I I was laughing there were moments

[25:52] where I was laughing to myself where I

[25:54] remember speaking to a reporter once and

[25:56] she she wasn't really sure if I actually

[25:58] meditated and I was like oh right

[25:59] there's no proof. There's no like you

[26:01] know like I write these books but I

[26:03] don't take pictures of myself

[26:04] meditating. I don't like

[26:06] you know promote like I don't sell

[26:08] meditation courses or anything like

[26:09] that. So I was like of course she would

[26:11] doubt it but then I was like

[26:13] oh no but now my friend Elena Brower

[26:16] like she she saw me meditate you know we

[26:18] meditated together so she knows that

[26:19] it's real. So it's just so funny how how

[26:21] things come full circle.

[26:23] >> I'm going to come back to the book but I

[26:25] want to take a little um

[26:27] a little PSA a little public service

[26:29] announcement to share

[26:30] that after doing this course, this

[26:32] 10-day Vipassana course, I realized the

[26:35] truth of what you've just said, that

[26:37] there is a practice for me that doesn't

[26:39] need to involve money, and I have since

[26:42] ceased teaching meditation,

[26:46] ceased taking money to teach meditation,

[26:49] committed to going back to many courses

[26:52] for the rest of my life, and creating

[26:55] for myself this pocket of time twice a

[26:57] day where I'm meditating. It's my

[26:59] practice. I'm not sitting there trying

[27:01] to figure out how best to share this

[27:03] understanding or this burgeoning

[27:05] realization with the next person I come

[27:07] into contact with.

[27:09] And that has been the most profound gift

[27:11] of all.

[27:13] It's my practice now.

[27:15] Um,

[27:16] in Earth Diego, what I extrapolate is

[27:19] that real maturity is no reaction.

[27:22] >> Yeah.

[27:23] >> Real maturity, no reaction.

[27:26] When you deeply understand that all

[27:28] situations change, you write Earth

[27:29] number 28 if you're going to be

[27:31] following along with the book.

[27:33] When you deeply understand that all

[27:35] situations change, you cling to

[27:37] everything less.

[27:39] You appreciate the things that are

[27:40] enjoyable. You are not troubled when

[27:42] they end.

[27:43] You face challenges when they arise,

[27:46] but you know that no storm lasts

[27:48] forever.

[27:49] >> Mm-hmm.

[27:51] Yeah.

[27:52] That's I I You know, when you say it

[27:54] like so maturity is no no reaction, and

[27:56] I I want to make sure that for those of

[27:58] us who don't have that

[28:00] meditative contacts, like it doesn't it

[28:02] doesn't mean passiveness.

[28:03] >> Yes.

[28:04] >> It doesn't mean suppressing anything.

[28:07] What it means is that there is a very

[28:09] calm awareness that is clearly taking a

[28:13] good look at what's happening inside of

[28:15] you,

[28:15] and you are choosing not to be

[28:18] impulsive. You're not going to react to

[28:21] what's happening.

[28:22] You will If there's a need for action,

[28:25] you will take a moment to to get a good

[28:27] look like what is the proper course of

[28:29] action. How can I

[28:32] choose something that is compassionate,

[28:34] something creates harmony inside of me

[28:36] and hopefully supports the

[28:38] the harmony of the environment that I'm

[28:40] a part of.

[28:41] And you know, you're not always going to

[28:43] get it 100% right, but it at the very

[28:45] least slowing down to take a good look

[28:47] at what's actually happening and how can

[28:50] I show up in a way that's in alignment

[28:51] with my values,

[28:53] then you're going to have a way less

[28:55] bigger mess to clean up

[28:57] afterwards.

[28:59] >> To that end, Earth number 29 and I

[29:02] misspoke earlier, Earth is third and

[29:04] then water is where we end. Water flows

[29:07] back into fire.

[29:08] Earth 29.

[29:11] Deep internal stability comes from

[29:13] taking on an increasing sense of

[29:15] responsibility for yourself.

[29:18] >> Mhm.

[29:19] >> I think this is the point that you are

[29:20] just making.

[29:22] It's not about passivity at all. In

[29:23] fact, it's about seeing it so clearly,

[29:26] being with all of it, collecting

[29:28] yourself,

[29:29] and then creating the chance for you to

[29:31] choose wisely and will another way

[29:36] >> Yeah.

[29:37] >> of being.

[29:37] >> And that that responsibility for

[29:39] yourself too to like

[29:42] acknowledge that

[29:44] your healing is in your own hands,

[29:46] right? You get to craft, you get to be

[29:48] the designer of your life.

[29:50] And that includes being the designer of

[29:51] your mind, of your heart, of like really

[29:53] taking a good look in there and saying

[29:55] like what is how can I expand my

[29:58] capacity, my capacity for peace, my

[30:00] capacity for for presence, for really

[30:03] listening to others and being able to

[30:05] connect with them.

[30:06] And

[30:07] there's it's absolutely valuable to

[30:09] design a good life life for yourself

[30:11] externally, right? Like making sure that

[30:14] you have work that you really care

[30:15] about, making sure that you have good

[30:16] friends, a safe home, those things are

[30:18] valuable, but it's really that inner

[30:20] mindset that is shining a light on

[30:24] everything else around you. So if the

[30:25] inner mindset is bright, peaceful,

[30:27] happy, then things will look quite

[30:29] beautiful no matter how big are the

[30:31] winds or how small they are, whatever it

[30:33] could be. I think

[30:35] yeah, just having that responsibility

[30:37] and taking accountability for what's

[30:38] happening inside

[30:40] can really make life quite beautiful.

[30:42] >> One of the ways that I've sort of

[30:45] learned [clears throat] how to do this

[30:46] from you, Earth number 64.

[30:49] Emotional intelligence does not turn you

[30:51] into a perfect person or a mind reader,

[30:54] but it does teach you to ask questions

[30:57] instead of making assumptions.

[30:59] My understanding of this is when

[31:02] presented or confronted with a very

[31:04] intractable situation, my next move now,

[31:08] instead of assuming that something is

[31:09] going terribly awry or against me,

[31:12] assume that one more question might

[31:15] actually open something.

[31:17] >> Mm.

[31:17] >> This is very wise wise counsel, number

[31:20] 64.

[31:22] >> My my favorite thing now in conversation

[31:26] is tell me more.

[31:28] >> Totally.

[31:29] >> Tell me more and not not like not being

[31:32] so specific about like

[31:34] you know, really narrowing into one part

[31:36] of what the person is saying, but just

[31:38] saying tell me more to give them the

[31:40] freedom of like expound in any way that

[31:43] you desire so that I can get a even

[31:46] bigger picture of what you're trying to,

[31:48] you know, give to me.

[31:50] >> Yeah.

[31:51] Earth number 90 to close out Earth and

[31:53] move toward water.

[31:54] 11 ways to live wisely.

[31:58] >> Mm.

[31:58] >> Prioritize your joy.

[32:01] Lead with kindness.

[32:03] Every perspective is limited

[32:06] >> Mm-hmm.

[32:07] >> for that, including your own. Make time

[32:09] to see your friends.

[32:15] Inner peace requires letting go.

[32:19] Reacting makes the mind cloudy.

[32:23] >> Mm-hmm.

[32:23] >> Real maturity, no reaction. Stay away

[32:26] from people with big egos.

[32:29] >> Yeah, that I've been I'm really keen on

[32:32] that one. I'm like, whoa, when I see

[32:33] someone who's just like really loaded up

[32:35] in there, I'm like, oh, I got to go the

[32:36] other way.

[32:38] >> Gently make a

[32:38] >> right turn.

[32:40] >> Yeah.

[32:40] >> Um, impulsiveness is not the right

[32:42] answer.

[32:44] >> Mhm.

[32:45] >> Let people know you appreciate them.

[32:49] Slowing down helps you live your best

[32:51] life.

[32:53] And you have to say no a lot

[32:56] to save your energy.

[32:58] And I'd love for you to tell us more

[32:59] about that one.

[33:01] Just say no. Cuz you do it well.

[33:04] >> Yeah, I try I try to. I am I'm learning

[33:08] to

[33:09] make sure that

[33:11] that I I get some of my own time too.

[33:13] >> [laughter]

[33:14] >> Same.

[33:15] >> Um,

[33:16] I've been following this really strict

[33:18] rubric this year

[33:21] where I check in with myself to see if

[33:25] something is in in alignment with my

[33:27] values, with my nervous system, and with

[33:29] my intuition. When they converge, then I

[33:32] know I'm going in a good direction.

[33:34] >> Mhm.

[33:34] >> Um,

[33:36] at the same time, I have to have a clear

[33:38] sense of like what are my primary goals.

[33:40] For each year, I have, you know, have

[33:42] like two or three things that I'm really

[33:43] working on. Some, you know, internal and

[33:47] some like external like work goals or or

[33:48] what not.

[33:50] And I need to be honest about like am I

[33:53] actually putting the energy in to make

[33:55] these goals come true because if I'm

[33:57] scattered, if I'm way over committed,

[33:59] then I'm all over the place and I am not

[34:01] going to be of service to myself or to

[34:04] others. So I have to be really mindful

[34:06] and the the the nuance too that I've

[34:08] been learning about the nervous system

[34:09] where

[34:10] it's not about like, oh, keep myself

[34:13] settled and balanced and easeful all the

[34:15] time. It's not about that. It's making

[34:17] sure that I'm putting energy towards

[34:19] something that feels so genuine and so

[34:21] right that even the hard work of of it

[34:23] feels good. Even like, okay, I'm going

[34:25] to put energy like the way

[34:27] where I've been um

[34:29] doing a lot of running the past two

[34:31] months.

[34:31] >> I'm so proud of you.

[34:33] >> and it's it's hard work. It's not it's

[34:34] not easy. Like I ran 10 miles the other

[34:36] day and then I ran five yesterday.

[34:38] >> Wow.

[34:38] >> And when I was finishing the five, I was

[34:41] like in mile three I was like, oh, my

[34:42] body's tired. But um,

[34:45] but I keep going and keep a good sort

[34:48] of, you know, balance of making sure I

[34:50] get rest, but this this hard work of

[34:53] like,

[34:54] you know, pushing myself a little

[34:55] further each time, it um,

[34:59] it's not exhausting me. It's generative.

[35:01] It's like giving me more energy. So,

[35:04] yeah.

[35:04] >> It's the same with the practice, too.

[35:06] The sitting. You know, you think you

[35:07] can't

[35:08] 30 minutes and you're just like, wow,

[35:10] another 30 minutes is upon me.

[35:14] >> Yeah.

[35:14] >> And you think you can't and then you

[35:15] can.

[35:17] >> That's my favorite thing about

[35:18] meditating. I'm like, it's not easy.

[35:20] Like people are like, I'm bad at it.

[35:22] That's why I don't do it. I'm like, of

[35:23] course you're bad at it. We're all bad

[35:24] at it. That's the whole point. It's

[35:26] supposed to be very revealing.

[35:28] >> Oh, yes.

[35:29] >> and but it's training. Like come on, you

[35:31] think you're going to go to the gym for

[35:32] the first time and it's going to feel

[35:34] great? No, it's going to hurt.

[35:36] >> It's sore.

[35:37] >> Yeah.

[35:39] >> Um, water as cohesion. You mentioned

[35:42] this earlier and I would love to explore

[35:43] this with you.

[35:45] I think of water and I think of fluidity

[35:47] and then you brought in this word

[35:49] cohesion and I'm understanding now how

[35:52] everything kind of congeals and flows

[35:55] together. I would love for you to talk

[35:57] from your perspective about this word.

[36:02] >> Yeah, I think um, I felt the same way

[36:04] the first time I heard that that word

[36:05] cohesion and it's it's in the

[36:09] you know, when you look at the old

[36:10] Buddhist teachings and Glenn talks about

[36:11] this water as cohesion, too. And I think

[36:14] about water as cohesion. That's that's

[36:16] why the water section is the last one

[36:18] because you spend time sort of like

[36:21] cultivating that quality of fire to make

[36:23] big changes. You develop your

[36:25] adaptability with air. You develop your

[36:27] balance with earth. And then water is

[36:30] like, how are you showing up for

[36:31] yourself and for your community, for the

[36:34] people that you love? Cuz that's the the

[36:35] cohesive quality is like, are you

[36:38] feeling whole within and are you doing

[36:41] your part to bring harmony into the

[36:43] environments that you're in. And and I

[36:46] think it's it's interesting how, you

[36:47] know, you

[36:49] that's the big connection is you

[36:51] really embrace your ability to evolve

[36:55] and then you immediately start seeing

[36:57] how that transforms your relationships,

[37:00] how that makes them deeper.

[37:02] And that's why I felt like, okay, let me

[37:03] really focus in on the first part of the

[37:05] book on the individual, and now

[37:08] let's bring it together with this uh you

[37:10] know, how are you showing up for

[37:11] yourself and for others?

[37:13] >> You point out too in water number 14

[37:15] that we live in a time that is not well

[37:17] matched to our evolutionary design.

[37:20] >> Oh, [clears throat] yeah.

[37:20] >> critical pivot point for me. Uh we have

[37:22] great access to one another through

[37:24] social media, text messages, emails.

[37:27] This can sometimes allow for more

[37:29] long-lasting connections and it has and

[37:31] it does. And actually we're an example

[37:33] of that.

[37:34] >> Yeah, yeah, right.

[37:35] >> But it can also put you in a situation

[37:37] where too many people are asking for

[37:39] your time. I think this is, to your

[37:41] point,

[37:42] the no that is a generative, helpful, of

[37:46] service, more harmonizing than a guess.

[37:51] >> Yeah, and it's it's really, you know,

[37:56] I think everyone is experiencing this

[37:58] because everyone has DMs, everyone has

[38:01] text messages, everyone has email,

[38:03] everyone has like so many modes of

[38:05] connecting us that

[38:06] >> Yeah.

[38:06] >> it's nice to be connected, but it feels

[38:09] the the inundation of information feels

[38:12] overwhelming and it feels like it's

[38:14] really pushing this urgency urgency

[38:17] culture that just leads to burnout.

[38:19] And

[38:21] I think to myself like, you know, we

[38:24] were meant to live in little herds of

[38:27] 120, 160.

[38:29] >> Yeah.

[38:30] >> And

[38:31] and it's [snorts] it's really

[38:32] interesting how

[38:34] think about how much time you actually

[38:36] have in your life to for for deep

[38:38] cultivation of connection, for like real

[38:40] connection where we can like really

[38:42] spend time meeting each other and

[38:45] it's been so interesting how there's

[38:48] just, there isn't infinite time, so you

[38:49] have to pick like who, who are the

[38:51] people you really want to build with,

[38:52] and I have um, I'm recently Vivek

[38:55] Murthy, he started working on Wisdom

[38:57] Ventures with us, and him and I have

[38:58] become friends. And Vivek like he, he's,

[39:01] he was, I learned so much from him even

[39:03] in in our first few meetings where

[39:06] he was like Diego, let's go on a walk

[39:07] cuz we both felt like I'm like oh my

[39:09] gosh, I love this guy, I want to be best

[39:11] friends,

[39:12] but we need time, we need time to like

[39:14] come together and like really meld and

[39:16] you know, build our bond, and we went on

[39:18] this long walk in San Francisco.

[39:21] And we were talking about

[39:24] our lives and how we got to where we are

[39:26] now and

[39:28] and it was just so interesting how

[39:31] we needed that space to really build

[39:33] that connection between the two of us

[39:35] and now it really feels evident and

[39:36] strong.

[39:37] And and I think you know, we can't, we

[39:40] can't fake that, we can't like and you

[39:42] can only really carry so many

[39:43] superficial connections, so I'm never,

[39:46] I'm never saying like be mean to people,

[39:47] but I'm saying you have to be honest

[39:49] with yourself like

[39:50] how many connections can you feed and

[39:52] are you feeding them?

[39:53] >> Water number 17.

[39:56] Saving the majority of your time for the

[39:58] people who make you feel seen and heard

[40:00] is not selfish.

[40:02] It's an act of self-care that uses your

[40:05] energy wisely.

[40:07] >> Yeah.

[40:08] >> Thank you for that.

[40:09] >> think I

[40:10] I think a lot about my my parents

[40:13] and how

[40:15] I'm like oh I'm trying, I'm trying to

[40:16] reserve so much time for them and to

[40:19] really um

[40:21] hang out with these two incredible human

[40:23] beings, like I'm so proud of them, I I

[40:25] love them so much. I talked to my mom

[40:27] the other day, my mom um she was, she

[40:29] was you know, feeling really emotional

[40:31] about how one of the interviews that I

[40:33] did for the Pivot podcast was on Netflix

[40:36] and I called my mom and she's like

[40:37] watching me on Netflix and she's, she's

[40:39] crying and

[40:41] and I was like mom, I was like I want

[40:42] you to know when whenever I tell my sort

[40:45] of my version of the story and I talk

[40:47] about you know, my mom, she worked

[40:49] cleaning houses, my dad worked in a

[40:51] supermarket. I was like, I want you to

[40:52] know that I say that with

[40:54] the most pride. Like, I'm so proud of

[40:58] you guys. Like, I'm so I'm so grateful.

[41:00] Like, it's it's this infinite gratitude

[41:02] that I feel that you would even be

[41:03] willing to to work that hard for me and

[41:05] my brother and my sister.

[41:07] And my mom, she was just like, oh, I

[41:10] know. Like, I know. You're so You know,

[41:11] you're like you you say that with so

[41:13] much pride and

[41:14] um I'm excited. My mom and dad are going

[41:16] to come with me to the

[41:18] event in Miami. So, I'm going to like

[41:20] fly them down. Well, and I made sure

[41:22] that it was like really nice and easy

[41:24] for us and then they have a good time

[41:26] and they're also celebrating, I think,

[41:27] like 43 year years of marriage or

[41:30] something like that. So, it'll be a nice

[41:32] moment for us.

[41:33] >> I remember seeing those two from the

[41:35] stage at the Y, the 92 Seconds of Y in

[41:38] New York. Beaming.

[41:40] You're all beaming toward you. So

[41:42] beautiful.

[41:44] Oh gosh. There's a last one that I

[41:46] wanted to read before I have a very fun

[41:48] announcement about four tickets to San

[41:50] Francisco that are being given away.

[41:53] >> Nice.

[41:54] >> Water number 70. Understand your field

[41:56] of control. We've talked about this a

[41:58] few different ways, but I think this is

[42:00] a really nice sort of coda.

[42:02] Understand your field of control.

[42:03] Craving will make you want to control

[42:06] much more than what is reasonable.

[42:08] If you truly want inner peace, you

[42:10] right,

[42:11] you must come to terms with the reality

[42:13] that you can only control your own

[42:15] choices.

[42:17] You may have influence over a few

[42:19] people, but that is incredibly limited

[42:21] and unreliable.

[42:23] You cannot live someone's life for them.

[42:25] When the mind gets attached to craving

[42:28] for others to behave in certain ways,

[42:33] you are simultaneously rejecting the

[42:35] truth of the present moment

[42:37] and filling your mind with tension.

[42:42] >> There's

[42:44] there's this picture that and I've

[42:46] mentioned it to you before, but I keep

[42:48] coming back to this picture of life

[42:51] being a canvas that we paint on with our

[42:54] actions.

[42:56] >> Yeah.

[42:56] >> And it's more than enough paint. Like,

[42:59] your actions are more than enough paint

[43:01] to create something masterful, to create

[43:03] something beautiful.

[43:05] >> Mhm.

[43:05] >> And [clears throat] so often we fall

[43:07] into the delusion of, ooh, how much

[43:10] further can I extend my control? Can I

[43:13] go beyond my actions? Let me try. And

[43:15] then, yeah, you will fail. Like, you

[43:17] know, that it's the failure will be

[43:19] there of like, whoa, I have you know,

[43:22] I'm stretching too far. And the what it

[43:25] looks like is the moment that you start

[43:27] stepping outside of your own field of

[43:29] control and trying to control other

[43:31] things about other people around you,

[43:33] usually the people who are nearest to

[43:34] you are people that you love, you won't

[43:36] be loving them well. You won't be loving

[43:38] them right if you're trying to, you

[43:40] know,

[43:41] be too a part of their decision making

[43:44] where it actually feels like you're

[43:45] controlling them. That's not real love.

[43:47] That's actually squeezing the freedom

[43:49] out of the love. So we have to, you

[43:51] know, understand love as acceptance and

[43:53] love as understanding and and also

[43:55] understanding that the people that you

[43:58] are near, they have their own journeys,

[44:00] too. So your journeys may be their side

[44:03] by side lock step in your

[44:05] understandings, but then there may be

[44:06] moments where they're, you know, they

[44:08] diverge and whatnot. But I think there's

[44:11] this

[44:12] beautiful power that is unlocked when we

[44:16] are able to realize, oh, okay, so I only

[44:18] have control over my actions.

[44:20] Now you really start focusing in like,

[44:23] ooh, let me be crafty. Let me really see

[44:25] what I can do with these actions and and

[44:27] you're going to build something

[44:28] beautiful for yourself.

[44:30] >> I've seen this in my parenting most

[44:31] clearly. Partnering, too, but parenting

[44:34] most clearly, where

[44:36] I really can't control or determine the

[44:39] actions of this person to whom I've

[44:41] given birth,

[44:42] but I can walk alongside and act in a

[44:46] way that is supportive and remind him

[44:49] that I trust him and allow him to

[44:52] emerge.

[44:54] >> Mhm.

[44:55] >> And you've seen it happen and it's

[44:57] completely true that when we do that,

[45:01] these people will become who they are no

[45:02] matter what.

[45:04] >> Mm.

[45:05] Exactly. Exactly.

[45:07] >> It's incredible.

[45:08] >> I'm so glad that we're going to continue

[45:10] this in San Francisco.

[45:12] >> Yes, sir. We have four tickets.

[45:14] >> Yeah.

[45:15] >> tickets. I want to give it to four

[45:16] people. If you're watching and you are

[45:19] in the Bay Area or you know somebody in

[45:21] the Bay Area, I would like for you to

[45:24] reach out to me in the comments under

[45:26] the post that I will post up very very

[45:29] soon as soon as the video is done

[45:30] processing and let me know that you're

[45:32] interested. In about two or three days,

[45:34] I'm just going to scroll through the

[45:35] comments and go boom boom boom boom. So

[45:38] make sure you comment.

[45:40] And I will pick and I will get in touch

[45:42] via DMs in Substack and I will let you

[45:44] know that you have been the winner.

[45:47] If you don't hear from me, you haven't

[45:49] been and there will be another time. But

[45:51] I look forward to hearing from you in

[45:52] the comments.

[45:54] Diego, anything that we haven't touched

[45:56] on that you would love to touch on

[45:57] today?

[45:59] >> No, I think we should save the rest for

[46:02] San Francisco. I feel like that that

[46:04] conversation is the one I'm really

[46:05] looking forward to because

[46:07] we have always been able to see each

[46:09] other pretty well, but now we can really

[46:11] see each other

[46:12] uh now that we're sharing this practice.

[46:14] So I think I'm excited to dive deep into

[46:17] wisdom.

[46:19] I want to dive deep into like what is

[46:21] like what is at the very edge of the

[46:23] universe. What's that like? I want to

[46:25] dive deep into just all of the

[46:27] architecture of inner peace.

[46:28] And

[46:30] yeah, it's going to be fun. I know

[46:31] you're giving away four tickets, but for

[46:33] those who, you know, aren't part of the

[46:35] looking for, you should still come join

[46:36] us because it'll it's going to be

[46:38] a special and it's always the highlight

[46:39] of the tour is spending time in in San

[46:42] Francisco because

[46:43] there's always just such a warm welcome

[46:45] there. And if you're not in SF, yeah,

[46:47] there's

[46:48] you know, I'll be

[46:49] bopping around the country for two

[46:51] weeks. So I'll see you somewhere.

[46:52] >> And where's the best place for our

[46:54] viewer to find the tour dates.

[46:57] >> Um,

[46:58] youngpueblo.com/tour

[47:03] I think.

[47:04] >> I'll make sure that that's included here

[47:06] too as well.

[47:07] >> Totally.

[47:08] Awesome.

[47:09] >> you so much.

[47:10] >> Thank you so much too. This was so fun

[47:12] and thank you all so much who have been

[47:14] listening and commenting and just

[47:16] sending all the hearts out. So grateful

[47:18] for your presence. Such a great group.

[47:21] >> Yeah, thank you so much. See you soon.

[47:23] See you in San Francisco in just a

[47:25] matter of days.

[47:26] >> Awesome. Ciao.

[47:28] >> All the best.

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It is a set of 365 daily reflections meant to build self-awareness and inner peace. Rather than being organized by time, it moves through the elements of fire, air, earth and water, with each element offering a different lens on change, balance and adaptability. Perez describes it as an honest reflection of a practice he has kept for well over a decade.
Perez said that change can happen at any point in a person's life, so a fixed timeline felt like the wrong structure. The elements, which he noted appear across Chinese, Buddhist and Vedic teachings, are felt directly in the body, which makes them a practical way to approach habits. Each element poses a question, such as what earth can teach about balance or what air can teach about adaptability.
Elena Brower read a reflection stating that stress happens when you get too attached, and that craving more control makes stress worse. Perez echoed the idea, saying that when he fights change he struggles and that strong attachment creates a lot of stress. Acceptance and letting go are presented as the ways stress dissolves.
Perez said transformation is possible but not fast. He emphasized that it takes time and repeated actions rather than a single moment of insight. The book is built around that reality, asking readers to return to reflections over and over.
Perez argued that people are composed of their actions, and that intentionally choosing which actions to repeat is how a person designs and recreates themselves. He said this applies whether someone meditates, practices yoga seriously, or sees a therapist, because it comes back to what you choose and repeat. The practical implication is that change is built through daily choices, not only through insight.
A practical starting point from the conversation is to notice where you are holding on during the day and ask where you can loosen up or become more adaptable. Perez also suggested pausing when you feel an impulse coming on, reflecting on the options, and choosing a skillful response. Repeating this small pause builds self-awareness over time.
Perez suggested the book's lessons apply regardless of whether someone meditates, practices yoga, or works with a therapist, since all of these come back to choosing and repeating actions. The reflections are framed as prompts to notice behavior in daily life. Elena Brower, who described herself as a few months into a Vipassana practice, presented it as a resource for building self-awareness for general readers as well.

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