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[0:01] >> All right, we're live. Hello. Hello,
[0:04] everyone.
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[0:09] >> So, um Kathy and I have been having a
[0:11] laugh here at the tech stuff,
[0:14] but uh we are live. So, welcome to
[0:18] everyone and anyone who is out there
[0:23] um watching this.
[0:27] And uh let me just check what's
[0:29] happening on on YouTube.
[0:31] >> We're just getting set up. Welcome
[0:33] everybody to our awesome conversation
[0:36] here with me and Tanya. I'll let her do
[0:39] the tech stuff and I'll start chatting
[0:41] just for a moment. We were just laughing
[0:43] here chatting away and realized
[0:46] >> I don't know why this
[0:49] YouTube thing
[0:51] >> chatting away.
[0:52] >> Oh, there you are. It's streaming. Yes.
[0:54] >> Why this? It was time
[0:56] >> YouTube.
[0:57] >> Okay, let me switch it off. Otherwise,
[0:59] we're kind of
[1:00] >> It's streaming.
[1:01] >> Yes,
[1:02] >> it was time.
[1:03] >> I think you can hear us.
[1:04] >> Let me switch it off. Otherwise, we're
[1:06] kind of
[1:08] [laughter]
[1:11] >> So, you've got it right. You've got it
[1:13] going too, Kathy.
[1:15] >> Yes.
[1:17] >> Fantastic.
[1:18] >> Thank you, Tanya, for setting this up on
[1:21] StreamYard so we could do this live
[1:23] because I don't know how to do this. So,
[1:24] welcome everybody. Tanya and I are here
[1:27] to have a beautiful conversation today
[1:29] about how awesome human life can be. And
[1:33] um for those of you who don't know us,
[1:36] I'll do a quick introduction, then I'll
[1:37] let Tanya do one. She's doing all the
[1:40] techie stuff. So, thank you, Tanya. Um
[1:44] this will be on my YouTube site as well
[1:46] as Tanya's.
[1:49] >> So,
[1:50] >> all right. Go ahead. Go ahead. So,
[1:52] >> are we good?
[1:53] Yes, we're going. We're on. Go. Go. Go
[1:58] ahead.
[1:58] >> So, my name's Kathy Bowman. I am a
[2:01] source embodiment guide, meaning that I
[2:04] just help people to embody their true
[2:06] nature. And Tanya and I are both on this
[2:09] journey for a super duper long time and
[2:12] working with others and living it fully.
[2:15] And for those of you, I know a lot of my
[2:18] friends, your friends, Tanya, we have a
[2:20] lot of friends in common. And um Tanya
[2:24] and I chat and share a lot about our
[2:27] personal lives and over the years it's
[2:29] been so fun to hear the parallels in
[2:32] where we've gone from um the embodied
[2:36] realization or I'll start with the
[2:39] initial realization of who we truly are
[2:42] which is decades now for both of us. Um,
[2:46] and then you know the from the times of
[2:49] all of our spiritual work and
[2:52] integration work and then the
[2:54] realization of who we truly are as
[2:56] source and then you know for me I'll
[3:00] speak for myself. I thought I've made
[3:02] it. This is it. I've reached the
[3:04] mountain top. But it turns out you know
[3:07] um I think it was 16 years ago now. I
[3:11] had a near-death experience that was a
[3:13] huge condalini awakening and total,
[3:17] we'll say, realization of who I truly am
[3:19] beyond identity, beyond um all this
[3:23] human awesome stuff, right? But as it
[3:26] turns out, that was just the beginning
[3:28] of truly embodying that consciousness.
[3:31] So, there's a very big difference
[3:33] between knowing who you are and actually
[3:36] living it. So, one of the things that
[3:39] I've just loved about our relationship,
[3:42] Tanya, is our chats and how wild and
[3:46] crazy and fun and beautiful and
[3:48] sometimes challenging this human life
[3:52] has been through these years of
[3:54] integration and going with the twists
[3:56] and turns and ultimately I will say
[3:59] living as source, which you could say
[4:02] living as unconditional love in human
[4:05] form. and that presence that we are. So,
[4:09] I'll let you introduce yourself, Tanya.
[4:12] >> Thank you very much, Kathy. Thank you.
[4:14] Hey, you guys just pitch in in the
[4:16] comments. Um, we would love to interact
[4:20] with you also on in the chat. Um, so my
[4:23] name is Tanya Castillo. I've been around
[4:26] for a while within this whole discovery
[4:29] of
[4:31] who am I? like um and uh honestly if I
[4:34] say like I can't answer like I can't say
[4:37] I am this because basically there is no
[4:40] answer to that it's not a we we cannot
[4:43] package it like I am this other than I
[4:47] am um a part of the whole of all that is
[4:52] expressing itself in this moment in this
[4:54] lifetime through this body through this
[4:57] awareness that in itself has also
[5:00] changed and changed and keeps keeps on
[5:02] changing. So the moment I think, oh,
[5:05] this is it. Yeah. Wow. Then um a new
[5:10] shift happens and and something goes on
[5:13] that, um
[5:15] I wasn't expecting and then I discover
[5:17] more. So basically um in 2013 when I had
[5:23] my um
[5:26] big uh also condundalini awakening but
[5:29] different like it was in different way
[5:31] than Kathy Kathy's and also it was a
[5:34] near-death experience but again in a
[5:36] different way and I at that time became
[5:40] so connected within that huge love that
[5:44] it was so overwhelming actually that
[5:46] huge love that Um in the first days I
[5:51] could hardly um process being in a human
[5:55] body actually because um I felt like I
[5:58] was floating and um I had to go to work
[6:01] at that time. I was an English teacher
[6:04] and it was so strange because I was kind
[6:06] of living parallel realities because I
[6:09] was in this expanded
[6:12] love in this huggeeness in this huge
[6:15] silence everything went very like
[6:17] totally still inside of me and my heart
[6:19] just became completely fulfilled
[6:22] and at the same time then I was in in
[6:25] the so-called real world and um like
[6:28] trying to figure out
[6:31] now now who am I and what am I supposed
[6:33] to be doing and all that. And so in the
[6:36] first days it was uh strange but
[6:39] fantastic as well. And just to say that
[6:43] for um like about a decade um I lived
[6:50] um an almost constant state of peace and
[6:54] fulfillment and bliss and all of that.
[6:57] Of course there were fluctuations
[6:59] throughout the that journey um
[7:02] throughout that time but mostly it was
[7:05] like that like I was feeling like really
[7:07] in a a very expanded vibe
[7:11] living life to its most beautiful
[7:16] potential and then stuff happened and
[7:19] then uh all of a sudden it was like oh
[7:22] whoa whoa wait a minute so oh this this
[7:25] changes and then Now I am in a a new
[7:29] phase different from the other one. Um
[7:32] and the realization that many of us when
[7:37] we start our spiritual journey of
[7:40] discovering who we are, we think um that
[7:44] there is a kind of um a baseline a place
[7:48] you reach and that it's constant. And
[7:52] another thing that we believe is that
[7:54] there is a place you reach uh and that's
[7:57] it. Like you reach a place
[8:00] and then from then on it's all kind of
[8:03] um champagne and roses and um
[8:08] from my experience because I can only
[8:10] speak from my experience and we're only
[8:12] here to share our experience not not to
[8:15] make it the truth or anyone else's
[8:17] truth. That's not the point at all. Um
[8:20] the point of sharing it is hey this
[8:22] happens too or it can be this way or
[8:25] that way. It's it's not in any way to to
[8:27] to be special or whatever. So anyway, in
[8:33] my experience, I've realized there is no
[8:37] kind of place you arrive
[8:40] uh where it's then always free sailing
[8:45] and there is no constant baseline. So as
[8:50] embodied human beings,
[8:53] we do have a different perspective and
[8:56] it's very easy to touch base again and
[8:58] again and again if we get distracted by
[9:02] any chance because it's normal to get
[9:04] distracted while living everyday life.
[9:08] But it's easy to touch base constantly
[9:10] and and come back into that awareness of
[9:13] presence and to live from there um
[9:16] almost 100% of the time. But does it
[9:20] become 100%. I would say um maybe if we
[9:25] were choosing to live in a monastery or
[9:29] in kind of at the top of the mountain
[9:31] somewhere away from everyone else even
[9:36] so I'm not sure it would be a constant
[9:39] constant but our choice is to live a
[9:43] meditative life
[9:46] but in a way that is a celebration. So
[9:50] basically we live
[9:53] normal regular lives um and have as much
[9:57] fun as we can according to our own
[10:01] perception obviously because each one
[10:02] has their own way of enjoying. So we
[10:06] have as much fun as we like as we really
[10:09] feel in the moment but um in a very
[10:13] sacred way I would say so life becomes
[10:17] um an extremely sacred experience even
[10:21] within its secularity in in its everyday
[10:25] normaly
[10:27] so I don't think there's much of like
[10:30] our life is not that normal so to speak
[10:33] but on the other hand it is. So
[10:36] basically um [snorts] it's been a
[10:39] discovery that the baseline is always un
[10:42] there underlying but we're not
[10:45] constantly in it. Uh and it doesn't
[10:48] matter. So that's been one of the
[10:51] biggest most relevant discoveries for me
[10:53] because uh I've always been very
[10:55] determined and very disciplined and uh
[10:59] so for me it was really important to you
[11:01] know you like now you're fulfilled. You
[11:04] know what that means now you're supposed
[11:06] to stay that way 100% of the time and if
[11:09] if not it's because you're doing
[11:11] something wrong. And my perception now
[11:13] is not about doing something right or
[11:16] wrong. is just get out there and and
[11:19] experiment. Just try it out. See how it
[11:23] goes. Doesn't matter. It really doesn't
[11:25] matter because presence, the divine
[11:28] source, whatever we want to call it, is
[11:30] there all the time. So there's no way we
[11:33] can lose it. We can temporarily lose
[11:36] touch.
[11:37] >> Can be for fractions, for seconds, for
[11:41] minutes, sometimes a few hours, never
[11:44] for entire days.
[11:46] uh anymore.
[11:47] >> No,
[11:48] >> which is fantastic.
[11:50] >> Um yeah, and then of course there are
[11:53] many many days where we're in complete
[11:56] touch all the time. So
[11:59] >> I think that is something to celebrate.
[12:01] Uh for me at least it is. I'm very happy
[12:04] about it
[12:05] >> and to be able to share. There you are.
[12:08] >> Yes. Yes. And I have to say what Tanya
[12:12] just said. I mean, that's why we do what
[12:15] we do. That's why we're here sharing
[12:17] with you. When you live in this
[12:19] completely different state than you
[12:21] were,
[12:23] you want to share it with people. When
[12:25] people you love are still going through
[12:27] struggles and certain levels of
[12:29] suffering and challenges that you know
[12:33] can be easier, that's why we share this.
[12:36] And again, like she said, something
[12:38] super important. It's not about being
[12:42] special. Everyone on the planet is the
[12:44] most special person in the universe of
[12:46] course. Um but it is about sharing
[12:48] what's available and you will notice you
[12:51] know Tanya and I have very similar
[12:54] stories yet very different stories and
[12:56] one of the things with the whole
[12:58] spiritual
[13:00] hoba blah blah now it's become very
[13:02] mainstream and you have all the
[13:03] spiritual teachers and it's like
[13:05] everything's a paradox. Well one reason
[13:08] is as she pointed out there is no single
[13:10] truth. we can only each share our
[13:12] experience as this emanation of source
[13:16] and it's all going to be different but
[13:18] hopefully the more people that share uh
[13:21] help the others that are still going
[13:23] through it. So I want to pick up on what
[13:26] Tanya said though about the baseline and
[13:29] for me that's been
[13:32] huge. So, you know, for anyone out there
[13:34] who's going back and forth and
[13:36] struggling and not committed and not
[13:39] determined, you know, I've I I will say
[13:43] that yes, this is happening for you.
[13:46] It's happening automatically. When the
[13:47] clarioning call goes off, you really
[13:49] can't say no or you're going to be in a
[13:51] world of trouble. But the determination
[13:54] and the commitment to yourself, I mean,
[13:58] if you choose that, it just makes
[14:01] everything so much easier. And the
[14:04] baseline for me when I had my experience
[14:07] now 2015, it was like I wasn't very um
[14:12] spiritual before that. I was pretty
[14:14] dense and really had what you'd call
[14:18] essentially like a nervous breakdown for
[14:20] years. I was bedridden. I became
[14:22] agorophobic. I couldn't leave my house.
[14:24] I was on anti-depressants, anti-anxiety
[14:26] meds, bipolar meds. I was, you would
[14:28] think, the biggest mess on the whole
[14:30] planet, right? Like the last person. And
[14:32] I thought, I'm done. This is over. You
[14:36] know, I'm the one person in the world
[14:37] who is beyond repair and all these
[14:41] things that, you know, we deep down a
[14:43] lot of times think about ourselves. And
[14:47] one thing I do want to just impress upon
[14:51] everyone is when you choose this
[14:55] with your whole heart and you mean it. I
[14:58] just want to know who I am and I'm I'll
[15:01] be honest and truthful within myself and
[15:04] you ask for help from your creator self,
[15:06] from yourself as source, as the
[15:08] universe, as God, whatever words that
[15:10] you want. It it will happen. But it
[15:14] requires your commitment and your
[15:17] honesty and sometimes all of your grit
[15:20] and all of your human um we'll say I
[15:23] always say you have to dig really really
[15:25] deep and just say damn it all of myself
[15:28] were doing this to walk through the
[15:30] fears and to get up and keep moving
[15:32] through things. But you know, on one
[15:35] hand that sounds like kind of hard, but
[15:37] on the other hand, it's the most
[15:40] wonderful thing ever in the end to be
[15:44] your own hero, to have a new baseline.
[15:47] So the way I experience life now, like I
[15:51] wasn't in bliss like Tanya was after,
[15:53] yes, there was silence for days. I sat
[15:55] there and didn't get off my couch
[15:57] because I didn't have a thought in my
[15:58] head and I couldn't even contemplate
[16:00] taking a shower. [laughter]
[16:02] Um so yes I had to integrate that living
[16:06] in in two worlds kind of thing. Um but
[16:10] it was a lot more of a challenge for me
[16:12] where I started from. And the one shift
[16:17] that I will say happened year over year
[16:20] month over month every decision is just
[16:24] that today there is a space of peace
[16:28] within. There's always always always a
[16:31] knowing that all is well. Even when it
[16:34] doesn't seem well, even when you look
[16:36] around and everything is flying this way
[16:40] and that way, there is something
[16:43] embodied. I'll say you are embodied
[16:46] within your physical body to the point
[16:48] that you remember who you are. And it is
[16:51] 24/7. There are minutes or moments where
[16:54] you might h have a little reaction but
[16:57] you're aware of the reaction essentially
[16:59] all the time. And so even from the
[17:04] emotional state. So I think most folks
[17:07] what really troubles us, what troubled
[17:09] me why I was on a million meds is
[17:11] emotions. You know the thoughts and the
[17:14] emotions are what cloud us of feeling
[17:17] like ourselves.
[17:19] And even when those arise
[17:23] now, I'm still here. I'm still fully me
[17:27] able to witness all the emotions and
[17:30] feel this embrace of love. And it goes
[17:33] beyond. And it's so hard to describe
[17:35] this because
[17:38] it very much, you know, we use words
[17:41] like bliss and joy and ease.
[17:44] But there is to me a very physical
[17:47] tangible feeling through my body that
[17:50] extends way beyond my body. I don't
[17:52] know. It's just endless
[17:54] of being connected to everything and
[17:56] embraced by all that is. So yeah, I've
[18:01] had a ton of ups and downs and twists
[18:04] and turns and things go this way and
[18:07] things go that way and oh my god, I'm
[18:09] moving again and how am I going to pay
[18:10] my rent and looking at the bank account,
[18:13] but the whole time it's like meh, I know
[18:15] who I am. [laughter]
[18:18] This body, this body isn't built to live
[18:20] here forever, but I never die and it's
[18:23] going to be what it is. And when you
[18:25] know that you're part of this whole
[18:27] thing and you know it's like pure
[18:31] consciousness, love, source, it loves
[18:34] you. It if when you're open and you're
[18:37] in flow and you ask for whatever I want
[18:40] joy, I want love. I want you know the
[18:42] foundation for everything that I do is
[18:45] to be clear and embodied and aligned
[18:47] with and of and as who I am and be that
[18:50] expression.
[18:51] But what you ask for comes into your
[18:54] life. It's just a matter of what's in
[18:56] between
[18:58] you and the thing that you want. And
[19:01] what's in between is eons of old energy.
[19:04] All those old energies, call them from
[19:08] past lives, karmic energies, whatever
[19:10] words you want to use that we have in
[19:12] the cells of our body. So the biggest
[19:15] struggle for me, and Tanya, I'll let you
[19:18] pick this up, is when you, you know,
[19:21] going back to poof. Oh my god, I know
[19:24] who I am. Oh my god, I can't believe I
[19:26] ever fell asleep. Ah, you know, it was
[19:29] like I remember balling tears of relief
[19:32] and then laughing like how could I have
[19:34] fallen? Oh my god, I can't believe I
[19:36] believed in fear and death and all this
[19:39] and then you think I've made it. But the
[19:42] crazy thing is you know what you know,
[19:45] but you haven't embodied it because the
[19:48] cells of your body are still holding all
[19:50] this density. And so it was years of
[19:54] walking through fears. I mean, there
[19:56] were times I remember telling my dad no
[19:58] one time and he's gone now, bless his
[20:01] soul. But telling him no for the first
[20:03] time on the phone and my whole body
[20:05] started shaking and I started balling
[20:07] when I got off the phone and my body was
[20:09] just squeezing out fear. So, there's a
[20:12] lot of weirdness that goes on and
[20:16] difficulty and challenges
[20:19] letting our bodies speed up
[20:21] vibrationally and keep recalibrating to
[20:24] bring more of that knowing through our
[20:27] form.
[20:29] And so picking up on that, it's been
[20:33] really really interesting like since um
[20:37] well since both of us for sure we have
[20:40] this since we began this awareness this
[20:43] coming into awareness of who we truly
[20:45] are and and the whole thing of
[20:47] embodiment. So for me it started like
[20:50] over 20 years ago when I started with
[20:52] Reiki and all of that stuff. Like for me
[20:54] that was a huge thing because I was
[20:56] totally not into spiritual stuff at all.
[21:00] Like totally not. Then started
[21:02] meditation and all that. Well, whatever.
[21:04] Anyway, since that time up to now,
[21:10] this body has been through so much. I've
[21:14] been through periods where my body was
[21:18] kind of like fireworks, like always
[21:20] tingling. And after especially after
[21:23] 2013, the experience I I told you about
[21:27] and and like it was this kind of
[21:29] constant orgasmic feeling like feeling
[21:32] my condolini always um moving up and
[21:35] down my spine and and it could be with
[21:38] anything. It could be like bathing in
[21:40] the ocean or just the simplest things
[21:43] and it would just boom and I was like,
[21:45] "Oh, wow." Sometimes people tell me,
[21:47] "Oh, have you ever done aaska or
[21:49] whatever?" I said, "What for?" I mean
[21:51] I've been through I've experienced such
[21:54] kind of transcendent stuff with nothing
[21:58] like just with how the whole embodiment
[22:01] works and and this condundalini thing
[22:03] that and not I didn't do any specific
[22:06] condundalini practices just so you know
[22:08] it just burst on its own and then it
[22:11] kept on boom boom boom boom boom
[22:13] sometimes really intensely for days it
[22:16] would be like a a kind of a huge
[22:19] powerhouse always on. Boom boom boom
[22:22] boom. And I would just feel this huge
[22:25] huge kind of my head was like it was
[22:28] like huge like much larger and and the
[22:32] whole body was tingling all over and
[22:34] then I went through phases as well. So
[22:37] this comes in waves just so and it was
[22:40] in waves before but after that
[22:43] experience the waves is the same thing.
[22:45] So then it was waves of embodiment.
[22:49] So when I hit that super high frequency
[22:52] then what happened was that then the
[22:55] body needs to calibrate and adjust and
[22:58] so um then I used to go through and
[23:01] still do when I'm going through
[23:02] transitions through very hyper sensitive
[23:05] phases where I feel everything like
[23:08] where where I feel the people around me
[23:11] the places everything is so intense and
[23:14] sometimes painful actually like feeling
[23:17] the the thoughts thoughts and and
[23:19] feeling the emotions and feeling
[23:22] everything that's going on in a certain
[23:24] space. Um, and when I'm going through
[23:27] those transitions, I become super hyper
[23:30] sensitive, but I have learned not to
[23:34] kind of um protect myself from
[23:38] experiencing that in a sense. So, I do
[23:40] know that when I need to remove myself
[23:44] from being in public places, I just do.
[23:47] I I go into my own kind of cave and just
[23:50] stay there and just lie down and just
[23:54] just breathe and allow the body to kind
[23:56] of settle because it's very very intense
[24:00] physically.
[24:01] >> Yeah.
[24:01] >> And then I go but I don't just stay
[24:03] there uh like okay now the oh now it
[24:07] feels oh it feels so good. Okay. Oh
[24:10] yeah. And then I go back. I mean, I
[24:13] don't just stay there because it's
[24:14] comfortable and it feels really good and
[24:16] and finally it's settling. No. Okay, now
[24:18] it's settled. Now I can go back and try
[24:20] and try see how it goes again.
[24:22] >> And um so then at a certain point it
[24:26] just tilts. So that that hypers
[24:30] sensitive transition goes on for a
[24:32] while. Sometimes even it becomes very
[24:36] kind of my mind is very silent.
[24:39] I don't have a million thoughts racing
[24:42] or anything like that. So, this is also
[24:44] I think important to share because many
[24:46] people do a lot of meditation practices
[24:49] and that and and sometimes feel
[24:51] frustrated because it seems like they're
[24:53] never getting anywhere and that the mind
[24:55] will still be noisy forever and we just
[24:58] have to deal with it and it's not true.
[25:00] The mind will not be noisy forever. My
[25:03] mind is totally not noisy. um it is very
[25:08] silent. Um but when I am going through
[25:11] those transitional frequency phases and
[25:15] whatever the cells in my body need to
[25:18] expel from all of my incarnations, but
[25:22] also from what I kind of um gather along
[25:26] the way, you know, because I'm living
[25:29] life, so I gather I gather stuff and
[25:32] then I need to kind of release it. Um,
[25:35] so it's just part of being in life. And
[25:37] so in while I'm in those very hyper
[25:40] sensitive uh phases, it also becomes a
[25:44] bit noisy because I'm picking up a lot
[25:46] of different thoughts that I know are
[25:49] not mine because I mean they don't make
[25:51] no sense at all. Like then I but I don't
[25:54] fret about them and say, "Oh my god, how
[25:57] why am I thinking this?" You know, I
[25:59] shouldn't be think. No, it's like, "Oh
[26:00] wow, that's interesting." and let it go.
[26:03] And it just goes and goes and goes and
[26:06] then it just shifts and the mind is
[26:07] silent again and the body [sighs] can
[26:11] finally relax into the new frequency.
[26:14] So um also I have had phases within all
[26:18] of these transitions where my body has
[26:22] been like I've been almost dying
[26:25] literally like I felt like the I didn't
[26:28] know if I was going to wake up the
[26:31] following day. Okay. I didn't know if I
[26:32] would live the following day
[26:34] >> because it was literally dying. Like the
[26:38] whole biology seemed to be shutting
[26:40] down. Um I felt um a lot of pain
[26:46] everywhere,
[26:48] joints,
[26:50] organs, everything. It's like everything
[26:53] was aching. Like oh, it was terrible to
[26:56] even think about getting out of bed in
[26:58] the morning sometimes. and and this
[27:00] could go on for days and days and
[27:03] sometimes over a month and two months
[27:05] and whatever. And um the only thing that
[27:09] that um I knew for sure is it's okay
[27:16] whatever happens whether I transition or
[27:19] not is not the point here. What matters
[27:23] is that I can fully trust
[27:26] that this too is part of embodiment. So
[27:32] when the body is kind of I've been
[27:35] through phases where I could feel like
[27:37] the whole of humanity crying, it's pain,
[27:40] it's tears like
[27:42] >> huge huge pain coming from everywhere.
[27:45] It's kind of it's excruciating.
[27:48] Anyway, and in those moments where I
[27:50] felt despair, I also at the same time
[27:54] felt,
[27:55] but it's okay. So, um, whatever it is,
[28:01] it's okay. It's part of of becoming the
[28:04] more that I am within this physical
[28:07] body. And so, I never so I don't
[28:09] recommend this to anyone, okay? But I
[28:12] never went to the hospital or sought
[28:14] medical advice or anything. So, I'm not
[28:17] recommending that. I'm not saying you
[28:19] should do that, but for me, it was like
[28:22] that. I always fully fully trusted. So,
[28:24] I don't know if I've had cancer or not
[28:27] or if I've had like a really really
[28:30] deadly disease meanwhile within all of
[28:32] that pain that I went through. I have no
[28:34] idea. It doesn't matter, you know.
[28:37] >> I think that's good to share.
[28:40] >> Yeah. I just stayed and knew that what
[28:44] was going on was perfect for me. And I
[28:49] knew to stay and feel if there was
[28:51] emotion with that and there was there
[28:54] there was always emotion coming up with
[28:56] the different kind of phases to feel
[28:58] those emotions to you know not discount
[29:02] them as oh you know why am I feeling
[29:04] this or what sometimes um it can get
[29:08] like yeah um wow why is this emotion
[29:13] coming up it's not about why it's just
[29:16] be with it you know it's there. Be with
[29:18] it. Doesn't matter where it's coming
[29:20] from. Even if it's not yours, it doesn't
[29:22] matter either. It's you're feeling it.
[29:24] Just just feel it. Let it go. Let it
[29:27] move through you. And at some point um
[29:32] through all of those phases, then the
[29:34] physical body comes to a new stage,
[29:37] comes to a new frequency. And um and in
[29:41] that case, then it sort of kind of um
[29:45] rejuvenates. So that's happened to me
[29:47] several times throughout the process.
[29:49] So, there's been times where it seems
[29:51] like I was getting really heavily older,
[29:55] like like, oh gosh, oh, maybe I'm
[29:58] getting old, maybe. Oh, wow.
[30:02] Okay. And then all of a sudden I'm
[30:06] younger than [laughter] I was 20 years
[30:08] ago in terms of how I feel and and the
[30:11] health that the body is exuding and the
[30:13] the the brilliance, the radiance and and
[30:16] just the stamina and all of that and
[30:20] it's all of a sudden, oh okay, so that
[30:23] wasn't the end of the line. That's why I
[30:25] said at the beginning, it's never the
[30:27] end of the line. there's always um more
[30:31] and I know it will just keep on you know
[30:33] it will just keep on going um and I'm
[30:37] okay with that at this moment I'm in a
[30:39] phase of ex absolute discovery I'm
[30:42] living in a new place um
[30:45] uh meeting new people and some people
[30:48] that I have in my life in the moment
[30:50] it's like they've been there forever
[30:52] like we like we've known each other
[30:54] forever and um because there's there's
[30:58] this uh connection that happens
[31:00] instantly and there um not I'm not
[31:04] protecting myself from meeting people um
[31:08] openly like you know I can love you
[31:11] entirely right here and right now just
[31:14] because we're here in life you know so
[31:17] I'm I was sharing with Kathy like um
[31:19] here where I'm living I've got my son on
[31:23] the island and my nieces and nephews and
[31:26] all that which aren't of of course uh
[31:28] blood related but it it's the same
[31:31] thing. I love them as much as um as I
[31:35] love my own kind of um offspring. Um I
[31:40] don't get jealous [laughter]
[31:44] about her. Don't get jealous. Um but
[31:48] yeah, it's just um the way it is. So the
[31:50] body it goes through a lot of phases and
[31:55] I mean if you feel you need to go to the
[31:56] doctor do if you feel you need to go to
[31:58] the hospital do do whatever you feel you
[32:00] need to do. If you feel you need to take
[32:02] medication do whatever you need to you
[32:05] need to do that you can that you can
[32:07] trust.
[32:08] >> So for me I didn't do any of that
[32:11] because I'm I I sort of came in with a a
[32:15] hyper trust kind of kind of thing. So
[32:20] had this hyper trust thing like I really
[32:22] trust
[32:23] >> but not not everyone is the same and
[32:25] each one has to go through this um
[32:29] embodiment process in their own way.
[32:32] >> So you know whatever works for you but
[32:34] don't feel discouraged
[32:36] >> when it feels like you've fallen down
[32:39] and and like it feels like you can't get
[32:41] up again.
[32:42] >> [snorts]
[32:42] >> There was a point I actually I asked
[32:45] Kathy for help like because I was
[32:48] drowning in in this um in this very
[32:51] dense energy because of some work I was
[32:54] doing with uh people and um I just said
[32:58] hey I'm I'm really not managing to to
[33:02] kind of get get past this and I know it
[33:05] will move but it's so painful at the
[33:07] moment that if I can get a little bit of
[33:10] support it will be easier. for me. And
[33:13] so Kathy with the energy work just her
[33:17] support uh helped my body to kind of
[33:20] stabilize and for it to be a bit less
[33:23] time that I needed to be in that density
[33:26] and that that pain that I was in at that
[33:29] time. So um it's all part of the
[33:32] process. It's not that um you're doing
[33:35] anything wrong. Um, and also one thing
[33:39] I'd really like to leave very clear, you
[33:42] are so unique, um, that it's you we want
[33:47] here. Like it's you we're waiting for.
[33:49] It's not it's not like a replica of
[33:51] anyone else or like that you kind of
[33:54] emulate some kind of guru or someone
[33:57] that you like or that you follow. No,
[33:59] please. I mean, no, you are the one that
[34:03] has your particular
[34:06] um sum total of all that you are from
[34:10] all that you have been and all that you
[34:13] are to be because everything's happening
[34:16] at the same time. Um so that's what we
[34:22] uh celebrate with is is the uniqueness.
[34:26] It's not about us sharing our examples
[34:29] here and that being kind of oh okay
[34:31] that's a map or something. There is no
[34:34] map. Sorry to say that's been one of the
[34:36] hardest discoveries actually. Um
[34:40] sometimes you know listening to this or
[34:42] that wise person whatever and then
[34:45] feeling like ah yeah but my my story is
[34:48] not exactly like that and now [snorts]
[34:51] okay how do I navigate? Huh? You're here
[34:54] to discover.
[34:55] >> Yes. On to you, Kathy.
[34:58] >> Yes. Oh, goodness. I I want to talk a
[35:02] bit about the body some more. And I
[35:05] you've already made these points. This
[35:07] is not medical advice. This is not a
[35:09] how-to. This is sharing of the
[35:11] experience and how we got here. And um
[35:15] and then I want to go back to the island
[35:18] thing. So that's what I'm going to start
[35:19] with is the body. But for anyone who
[35:23] resonates with this, with the
[35:25] challenges, the ups, the downs, the
[35:27] feeling like you're stuck in the mud, um
[35:30] I too went through the days, weeks,
[35:32] months, and even years of those
[35:34] integrations.
[35:36] Um, for me, I know that that um
[35:40] near-death experience, the awareness,
[35:43] the experience of being pure
[35:44] consciousness and then coming back to
[35:46] the body. I mean, I just couldn't take
[35:49] it seriously anymore. Like, I couldn't
[35:52] take it I couldn't take human life
[35:54] seriously anymore. And it even pissed
[35:56] people off, you know, at the time. My
[35:58] boyfriend was like, "Well, you just
[35:59] don't care about anything anymore, do
[36:01] you?" Just like, I'm a totally different
[36:02] person now. you know I have a totally
[36:04] different perspective
[36:07] but not because we don't care because
[36:10] you can see the truth and you know the
[36:13] truth and you can sense the truth and
[36:15] there is such a deep connection. So
[36:19] again if you are going through those
[36:21] just know that this is part of the
[36:25] process of your body recalibrating and
[36:28] and releasing everything. So, you know,
[36:31] I mean, in my private group, the
[36:33] creators group, I've shared so many
[36:35] weird stories over the years. And Tanya,
[36:37] you reminded me of so many of those.
[36:39] It's like the times when I had the
[36:42] weirdest weirdest things going on with
[36:44] my body. Yes. Feeling like I'm having a
[36:46] heart attack, feeling like I'm dying
[36:48] probably a hundred times. I mean, who
[36:51] knows how many times. And the feelings
[36:53] of so much energy, you don't know what
[36:55] to do with it, and you just can't even
[36:57] harness it all. the feelings of being
[37:01] dragged through the bottom of the ocean
[37:02] again as the next clearing comes.
[37:04] Immense pain, extreme pain. Now, I
[37:08] shared earlier that I was on loads of
[37:10] psych meds 15, 20 years ago when I kind
[37:13] of got into meditation and yoga after 20
[37:16] plus years corporate life. I started
[37:19] getting into that stuff also. Um, but I
[37:22] also had two biopsies done that were
[37:24] atypical. So, I knew deep down I had
[37:27] cancer, but I never went to get it
[37:29] checked. I said, "Screw it. I'm either
[37:32] going to find out if I'm eternal or not,
[37:35] and I haven't been to the doctor for 14
[37:39] years since I pulled the plug on
[37:40] everything." And I said, "We're either
[37:42] going to do this and transform this body
[37:44] and I'm going to become me or f it. I'm
[37:47] out of here." You know, because I was
[37:48] like, I'm doing it. If anybody I've now
[37:51] seen these stories and I had a amazing
[37:54] facilitator William Lynville is still my
[37:57] mentor. I will have sessions with him.
[37:59] You know there's this spiritual ego like
[38:03] the master knows everything and never
[38:05] asks for help. It's like uh there's
[38:07] eight billion people on the planet for a
[38:09] reason and we're all here to love and
[38:11] support and help each other. Now you've
[38:13] got your own wisdom, you've got your own
[38:15] connection. It's not from neediness.
[38:18] It's out of love. So I had the support
[38:22] of a facilitator. Thank God I wouldn't
[38:25] be here today. I don't think I mean I it
[38:28] was a very very tough journey but um
[38:32] again who knows what my body has how
[38:36] many times has it had or released cancer
[38:39] or this or that. Essentially, as you're
[38:42] clearing those cellular memories, it is
[38:44] also every ancestral disease, every
[38:48] different thing is coming up and out.
[38:51] Um, that knowing that you're eternal,
[38:54] that for me it was I just know that as
[38:59] long as I am choosing to know who I am
[39:01] and to body embody who I am, that
[39:05] everything is golden. You know, it's
[39:07] like everything is happening for me. so
[39:10] lovingly. And you know what? If I'm not
[39:13] meant to be here at a higher level of
[39:16] consciousness, then so be it. But that
[39:19] level of openness and trust and
[39:22] willingness, it's not about, we'll say,
[39:24] being stupid or whatever. Like, I fell
[39:26] and hurt my shoulder. So, I have been to
[39:28] the doctor. I tore some tissue and I
[39:30] went in, I got cortisone shots. I got an
[39:32] MRI. I had them fix me up and give me
[39:35] some pills. Like, I took
[39:37] anti-inflammatories. Whatever. It's not
[39:40] anti- that stuff at all. It is about
[39:44] asking yourself in connecting with
[39:47] yourself and saying, "Okay, what does
[39:48] the body need? Does the body need to go
[39:50] to the doctor?" Well, for 14 years, the
[39:52] answer was no. And what's happening? Oh,
[39:55] this is just part of a clearing. Got it.
[39:57] Oh, this is just a another embodiment, a
[39:59] light integration, an activation,
[40:01] whatever you want to call them. Got it.
[40:04] And so when you really are committed to
[40:08] becoming clear and connected within
[40:09] yourself, every answer is right there.
[40:13] And I will say with one exception, there
[40:15] are times that life brings us tremendous
[40:18] storms.
[40:19] And those storms make us more embodied
[40:22] and integrated. The challenges bring us
[40:25] into deeper presence and deeper
[40:26] embodiment. But if you're like me and
[40:29] Tanya, we say, "Bring it on. I'm here
[40:31] for it. Let's go." 100%. We are true
[40:35] explorers. Thank you, Ashana. Hello. Um,
[40:38] and I think we just incarnated. I'll
[40:40] speak for myself. I came in apparently
[40:43] with that disposition. This was my path
[40:46] and I couldn't deny it if I wanted to.
[40:48] It may seem utterly crazy to others, but
[40:52] somebody's got to be a forerunner and
[40:54] jump right in and say, "It's okay, guys.
[40:56] Come on, join me. It's safe. It turns
[40:58] out it's really it's all good. It's
[41:00] hard, but it's worth it." Um,
[41:04] but it really is about connecting to
[41:07] yourself, getting those answers. But we
[41:09] are here to love and support and help
[41:12] each other. And when I had this big
[41:14] experience, it was like I would go out
[41:18] into the world and I was seeing with my
[41:21] physical eyes light emanating off of
[41:23] everyone out of their eyes, out of their
[41:25] hearts. And I felt such love for
[41:28] humanity. And now this is very serious.
[41:33] This is a a point I want to make because
[41:36] I see people all the time sharing posts
[41:38] on Facebook or wherever. Well, that's
[41:40] really the only place I am. I'm not very
[41:42] um into social media, but um you know,
[41:46] like love and light sucks. That's all
[41:48] fluffy and that's spiritual to
[41:51] bless your enemies and give them love.
[41:54] Like that's a bunch of bypassing. And
[41:56] I'm like, whoa, that is a load of ego.
[42:00] And that just is part of our human
[42:02] identity. And it is very, very hard for
[42:07] people to get beyond that. And I
[42:08] understand that. But in truth, when you
[42:13] feel who you truly are, there is nothing
[42:16] but love and compassion for the biggest
[42:20] um jerk, for the meanest person, for the
[42:24] people that are perceivably wrecking the
[42:27] world with greed and the terrible, you
[42:30] know, the murderers and whatever. You as
[42:33] source in truth has nothing but
[42:36] unconditional love and compassion for
[42:39] everybody. And you can see too that they
[42:43] are actually doing it to themselves.
[42:45] They are separating themselves from the
[42:47] love that they are. And how could you
[42:50] not feel for them? So this journey is
[42:52] not about memorizing all this spiritual
[42:56] jargon. You know I too dabbled in a few
[42:59] energy work things. I don't do any of
[43:01] that today. I go direct. It is about the
[43:04] heart. It is about truly the heart of
[43:09] existence and who you are. And when you
[43:13] strip away all the kind of spiritual
[43:15] jargon and yada yada yada and you come
[43:18] into that presence of love that you are,
[43:23] it's like Tanya said, you
[43:26] there were periods I could feel the
[43:28] suffering of humanity. I couldn't hardly
[43:30] leave my house, right? But you feel this
[43:33] love simultaneously. It's such a rich
[43:36] experience.
[43:37] But that feeling of love, it grows and
[43:41] grows and grows and grows. And the
[43:44] feeling of the other energies diminishes
[43:47] and diminishes and diminishes and
[43:49] diminishes. And yes, I have waves of
[43:51] sensitivity.
[43:54] But truly, this whole embodiment isn't
[43:57] about becoming smarter and memorizing
[43:59] all the stuff and knowing everything or
[44:02] look where we are. It's about coming
[44:04] home to your heart and unconditional
[44:06] love. And if you want to call it pure
[44:08] consciousness, that's fine. But for me,
[44:12] being on this planet requires extreme
[44:15] love, extreme compassion.
[44:18] compassion for yourself because you're
[44:22] here watching. So, you're on this
[44:24] journey with us and it will drag you
[44:26] through the worst of emotions you've
[44:29] ever felt. It will drag you through the
[44:31] depths of despair because you have to
[44:33] release all of that to remember who you
[44:36] are.
[44:37] And so just know that when you are
[44:41] connected to that and you stay committed
[44:44] to that and you come from the heart and
[44:46] don't get, you know, sucked into all
[44:49] these egoic little stories and things
[44:52] and teachings and whatever and worrying
[44:54] about what other people think and
[44:55] comparisons and all the identities and
[44:56] all the stories that you will come
[44:59] through this and it's not going to be
[45:02] easy. It's simple, but it's not easy. So
[45:06] this is so fun because you know we've
[45:09] gone through we have such a similar
[45:11] disposition I will say in in the way of
[45:15] like constantly being committed and I
[45:18] believe I was infused and I was seated
[45:20] with that from birth and also though in
[45:23] my big um NDE experience it was like
[45:27] there is nothing else. There is nothing
[45:29] else in this life. I love my kids. I
[45:31] love my family but they're not my kids.
[45:33] They're not my family. I'm not a
[45:34] daughter. I'm not a mother. I'm just
[45:36] pretending to play this little character
[45:38] called Kathy. I'm not a girl. I'm not an
[45:40] American. It's just all fun things I can
[45:43] play. And today in the world, I can play
[45:45] with those identities. I can hang out
[45:47] with girls and have a little girl talk
[45:49] or I can go to work and I can talk like
[45:51] the professionals a little bit, you
[45:52] know, and I can do those things. For a
[45:55] lot of years, it was awkward because I
[45:56] was like, I can't say this now. It's not
[45:58] me. I don't know who I am, you know? And
[46:00] then you're just like, whatever. You
[46:01] just get out there. You start playing,
[46:03] you start talking. I mean, sitting on
[46:06] the mountaintop was very very um you
[46:09] know, it it is hard guys to get out
[46:12] there and keep going into the world, but
[46:14] keep doing it because that's what gets
[46:17] you more integrated. Take your time, get
[46:20] clear, and then go back out and play.
[46:23] So, Tanya, you're a great example of
[46:25] that, and you were very out in the world
[46:28] a lot, and you helped me a lot. Um when
[46:32] I started my website maybe six years
[46:34] ago, I found your I mean I met you
[46:38] through you know spiritual group. We
[46:40] were in the same group together and I
[46:43] watched your YouTube videos and I was
[46:45] like whoa this chick's the real deal.
[46:47] Like it was just I could feel it
[46:49] instantly and our everything you shared
[46:52] I was like yep yep yep yep yep. And um
[46:55] then I did a session with you actually
[46:57] when I started my website because I just
[47:00] knew there was still all this doubt that
[47:03] would come up like what am I doing? Does
[47:05] anybody need this? Um am I ready? You
[47:09] know, and I was looking at my mentor
[47:11] Will Lynville. I was like I'm nowhere
[47:12] near where he is and I'm never going to
[47:15] be ready, you know?
[47:16] and then all this other junk that was
[47:19] still in my way. And I knew I needed
[47:21] somebody to just say it to out loud.
[47:25] Like sometimes we just need another
[47:27] human to witness us and say I am doing
[47:30] this and please help me with some of
[47:32] this stuff. And so I have I will say
[47:37] been fascinated with you from the time I
[47:39] met you. I just felt a very like big
[47:42] resonance. We'll put it that way. And
[47:46] you went through a big shift though the
[47:48] last couple years and you live fullon
[47:50] when we chat when we've been, you know,
[47:52] we've been sharing a lot about our
[47:54] personal lives the last several years
[47:56] and I'm always like, "Oh my god, oh my
[47:57] god, oh my god." And it makes me so
[47:59] excited because I'm like, "Yeah, I'm
[48:01] right there with you." And I'm I live a
[48:03] very sort of boring life now, like
[48:05] working a nineto-five job. I'm a coach
[48:07] here in the community as well as my
[48:09] website. And it's very like you know
[48:12] typical human job where you now are
[48:15] living this wild adventure but it came
[48:19] from after you said years of feeling
[48:22] very kind of settled into your
[48:24] blissiness and then you went through a
[48:26] big shift of consciousness again.
[48:30] Um what would you like to share about
[48:33] that?
[48:34] Well, so um I don't know the people who
[48:37] were like uh used to uh be in my sphere
[48:41] and who I used to work with and all
[48:43] that. Um know that there was a time
[48:46] where I said like this was July 2024
[48:50] that I couldn't uh do any work with
[48:53] anyone at that time. I had to stop all
[48:56] of my um sessions, all of my work with
[48:59] people. And um I didn't know when that
[49:03] would uh when that period would end. And
[49:06] I was also off social media for maybe
[49:10] about a year. I'm some Yeah. just all of
[49:13] a sudden. And so um uh it comes it it
[49:18] comes that actually um I had made an
[49:23] agreement
[49:25] before coming in which which then I was
[49:29] apparently ready to um to take on and
[49:35] this was with Serena. Many of you have
[49:38] have known about Serena Faith
[49:40] Mastersonson. And so I started working
[49:42] with her in 2020.
[49:44] slightly before Norma Delaney passed
[49:47] away and then I took over um with the
[49:51] rest of of what what was needed on on
[49:54] Serena's path. Serena's path is like no
[49:57] other. Like really I I cannot fathom
[50:01] uh there existing
[50:04] other human beings that went through uh
[50:06] the level of pain and torture and
[50:08] everything that she went through. And
[50:10] I'm not going to go into any sort of
[50:13] detail here, but anyway, um at one point
[50:17] she came to live in my town uh in in at
[50:21] by the end of 2023 and then you know we
[50:25] all thought it's like yeah it's going to
[50:27] be good for her leaving the US and all
[50:29] that and so on and then it turns out the
[50:32] idea actually like our souls our like
[50:36] the higher consciousness had another
[50:39] thing in mind and So [laughter]
[50:41] >> it's like that a lot.
[50:43] >> It's like oh oh that's what you came
[50:46] for. And so um in that case it was
[50:50] precisely on embodiment. So um
[50:54] throughout my my journey as um as me
[50:59] like as me as becoming me as becoming
[51:01] more of more remembering more of who I
[51:04] truly am because I don't become
[51:06] anything. I just keep on remembering
[51:09] and um throughout that journey I I've
[51:12] specialized in integration.
[51:15] So integrating um aspects of personality
[51:18] that are for some reason kept out there.
[51:22] Um so because of trauma of course there
[51:24] are so many different types of trauma
[51:26] and um so in this case um and also my
[51:31] specialty is embodying embodiment is is
[51:34] coming into the physical body like
[51:38] bringing more of source of our divinity
[51:41] of our soul of whatever you want to call
[51:43] it into the physical body. So this
[51:46] couldn't be done online. So the work um
[51:49] I had been doing with Cath with Kathy
[51:51] sorry with uh with Serena and had been
[51:55] done online because she was far away and
[51:57] then she needed to come and uh then then
[52:02] oh my god then everything that we had
[52:05] done before at a certain level needed to
[52:08] be brought into the body. And so um
[52:13] uh for months and months and months uh
[52:17] my only function was to be um a source
[52:21] of presence and to help uh just
[52:28] with this presence help her navigate her
[52:32] own kind of huge huge amount of
[52:36] personalities because she had um
[52:38] developed uh multiple personality
[52:41] disorder and had come to a point where
[52:44] that was under control but then when it
[52:48] came to really embodying into the
[52:51] physical body that all came up again. So
[52:54] uh then we had to deal with loads and
[52:57] loads and loads like hundreds and
[53:00] hundreds
[53:01] of different um aspects of personality
[53:04] all with their own their own uh ways and
[53:08] whims and wants and needs and whatever.
[53:11] Anyway, and um I I was very strong. my
[53:17] frequency was very high but then it was
[53:21] just such
[53:23] a load that
[53:25] um I it just started kind of coming into
[53:28] my body because I used to kind of go in
[53:31] to that stuff to um hold her hand let's
[53:36] say and that had a very very very strong
[53:40] impact on my physical body um and at a
[53:45] point so the people who knew knew me
[53:47] before know that I was always have been
[53:51] very joyful and that I love um to be in
[53:55] life um in a very open way where I
[54:00] really share my joy um of just being
[54:05] alive and discovering so many beautiful
[54:07] things about life and people and places
[54:10] and all of that stuff. Anyway, believe
[54:12] it or not, I lost my joy
[54:15] and uh so there was a point during all
[54:19] of that work where I could not stop
[54:21] doing it, but I could also not find my
[54:25] way to where is the joy? What's
[54:28] happened? And of course, it had to do
[54:31] with a change of frequency. And there
[54:34] came a point where um I finally uh
[54:38] realized okay I've done what I can do.
[54:41] So I've completed my kind of commitment
[54:44] that I already had from before coming
[54:46] into this lifetime. It's done. Um
[54:51] uh I can't my body can't sustain any
[54:54] more of this. It's just I mean I'm at
[54:57] the end of the line. And um so when that
[55:01] moment came um I became really really
[55:05] very ill. Um I had become ill several
[55:10] times throughout the whole process but
[55:12] then I managed to bounce back but the
[55:15] joy at just disappearing was for me kind
[55:19] of um being dead already
[55:23] >> because no joy is dead. Uh and so um
[55:30] and at that point I I went through a
[55:33] phase where I was um also a little bit
[55:37] kind of you know
[55:40] telling like talking to myself like you
[55:42] know I mean you could have let me know
[55:44] or
[55:46] you could have kind of um
[55:49] told me that it's going to be really
[55:51] challenging but fortunately that never
[55:53] happens right when our soul
[55:56] never tells us these things. It's not
[55:58] supposed to because otherwise we would
[56:00] have ideas about it and we would want to
[56:02] kind of figure it out and control it in
[56:04] a certain way and avoid certain things
[56:06] and whatever. So, and also another thing
[56:08] I discovered is our soul knows jack
[56:11] about how it's going to be really. So,
[56:14] um
[56:16] it's a discovery. The commitment is
[56:19] there, but then the way it's going to
[56:21] turn out in actual physical reality is
[56:25] is not known. It no one knows. No one
[56:28] anywhere anywhere in the universe knows
[56:32] how it's going to unfold.
[56:34] >> Yeah.
[56:34] >> And that's the big deal. That's the
[56:36] thing is like Yeah. Well, you kind of
[56:39] okay, you chose this. I am the human the
[56:42] human facet that is experiencing this.
[56:44] So, I guess that's the point. But
[56:47] I mean it you think it would have been
[56:51] helpful to to know a bit more but it
[56:53] wouldn't. Anyway, then there came a
[56:56] point where my soul um kind of I don't
[57:02] know um
[57:05] it's let's say that that that
[57:09] facet of spirit integrated as well. So
[57:14] it's not like also the human aspects
[57:16] integrate but I discovered also that
[57:20] that um there's the oversoul and and a
[57:24] lot of emanations from the oversoul and
[57:26] so the facet of soul that had chosen in
[57:30] this incarnation to have this experience
[57:33] and also in like over a thousand
[57:36] incarnations all of the other
[57:38] experiences that I had from that soul
[57:40] frequency uh of Aila
[57:44] uh was finally ready to
[57:48] integrate. Um it had done precisely what
[57:53] it had um been created for basically. So
[57:58] not at only at a human level but as at a
[58:01] spiritual level. And so then there was a
[58:04] long period where
[58:07] then I was kind of whoa now what like I
[58:12] felt like okay so my soul kind of my
[58:15] soul is gone in a sense like so now what
[58:20] you know um there was not this
[58:22] communication that I was used to with my
[58:25] um let's say higher self or whatever um
[58:29] because I've always found it really easy
[58:31] to communicate with my essence, with my
[58:34] soul, and also with other masters from
[58:38] the other side. They they there for me
[58:40] and with me oh 100% of the time, even
[58:43] when I forget to to interact or to
[58:48] communicate or to ask for some guidance
[58:51] and usually and a lot of times the
[58:52] answer now is there sorry I mean there's
[58:56] no guidance we can give. we're
[58:57] witnessing. I mean, you're you're the
[58:59] one that's discovering. We're just whoa,
[59:02] you know, just go ahead and do it
[59:04] because we have no idea what to tell
[59:06] you. I mean, sometimes there's an
[59:08] adjustment here or there that that is
[59:10] helpful because um the vision is much
[59:13] clearer from the other side. And so
[59:16] sometimes there is a bit of input that
[59:19] can be helpful for me and that helps me
[59:21] navigate. But a lot of the time it's
[59:23] like
[59:25] there's no answer really. There is no
[59:28] right right thing, no right moment, no
[59:31] right way to go because you are
[59:34] discovering exactly what it is here and
[59:37] now. And so um yeah and then so I just
[59:43] stayed in that kind of desert um
[59:47] like okay
[59:50] well then now what and so I didn't know
[59:54] I had to let go of everything all of my
[59:57] projects everything I have ever created
[59:59] even in passion the project in passion
[1:00:02] everything all of everything all of the
[1:00:05] groups I was in everything it just went
[1:00:07] away everything everything I'd created
[1:00:10] until that point disappeared completely.
[1:00:13] There was no point, no purpose anymore.
[1:00:16] No, nothing to to
[1:00:19] be a passionate about, nothing. Nothing.
[1:00:23] Um, and so at that point, I was like,
[1:00:28] well,
[1:00:30] okay.
[1:00:32] And I just kept on breathing every day.
[1:00:34] I am that I am whatever that is.
[1:00:39] [laughter]
[1:00:41] And I don't know. I don't know what I
[1:00:43] like. I don't know. I I had no idea
[1:00:46] about who I like even in human form
[1:00:50] about who this person is. This person,
[1:00:53] this new person, this person that had
[1:00:56] that was no longer feeling that
[1:00:58] connection. And then this um
[1:01:02] new frequency, let's say this new
[1:01:04] emanation, and it's not a soul
[1:01:06] emanation. It's kind of I I don't know
[1:01:09] how to put it, but it's kind of a spirit
[1:01:13] with with no particular purpose. It's
[1:01:16] what was there before Aya had a purpose.
[1:01:20] So is called the Ain frequency, which I
[1:01:23] have um now sign my stuff with. But this
[1:01:28] Ain frequency is very very different
[1:01:31] from from Aya and not another like not a
[1:01:34] walk-in not a different soul. No, it's
[1:01:38] just um kind of let's say the baseline
[1:01:42] that has no need to fulfill anything.
[1:01:46] Has no purpose to fulfill, no aim to
[1:01:49] walk towards, no nothing to achieve.
[1:01:54] It's just
[1:01:56] embodying for the pure joy and grace of
[1:02:00] experiencing
[1:02:02] these frequencies through humanness
[1:02:05] through a physical body. That's all. Um
[1:02:08] with no particular direction, no
[1:02:12] particular
[1:02:13] achievement or anything. So um so then
[1:02:18] it became so so completely different
[1:02:21] that I felt
[1:02:23] this uh
[1:02:26] stream of joy coming again but very
[1:02:30] different from before. Um and I felt I
[1:02:34] okay so it's time to move. Uh so because
[1:02:37] the place where I had been and
[1:02:40] integrated everything was no longer
[1:02:43] needed so to speak like there's nothing
[1:02:46] here for me anymore in that place
[1:02:48] >> and so then
[1:02:51] this um invitation this awareness
[1:02:54] islands islands to go and live in the
[1:02:57] islands and I didn't know what islands
[1:02:59] at that time but then it became clear
[1:03:01] that it was the Azorus islands which are
[1:03:04] the islands that belong to Portugal
[1:03:07] and uh oh wow it's been so I just um
[1:03:13] this started coming to me in July last
[1:03:15] year and now I've moved so I moved in
[1:03:17] December and living in the middle of the
[1:03:21] Atlantic um
[1:03:24] on these like these islands are just so
[1:03:27] magnificent in terms of their nature the
[1:03:31] beauty but also the frequencies And oh
[1:03:35] the silence h because um there's of
[1:03:40] course many more many less people here
[1:03:43] and we are far away from bigger bodies
[1:03:47] of of land. So it's like this just this
[1:03:50] huge these huge ships in the middle of
[1:03:53] the Atlantic basically. Um, and the
[1:03:56] whole of the Atlantic, the winds and the
[1:03:59] power of this nature here just keeps
[1:04:02] everything so clear that for me it's
[1:04:05] been like a magical discovery of um how
[1:04:13] lightness feels like in in the physical
[1:04:16] body and also discovery of me in a
[1:04:19] completely new way because I've
[1:04:22] discovered so many things I didn't know.
[1:04:25] Um I liked and I mean it's like every
[1:04:28] day I discover oh oh I like this or oh I
[1:04:32] I fancy discovering this new kind of
[1:04:36] sport or this new kind of I don't know
[1:04:38] I'm always discovering stuff. It's like
[1:04:41] it's like becoming a whole new person.
[1:04:44] Uh it's not like it is becoming a whole
[1:04:46] new person and discovering that every
[1:04:50] single day and not having like much of a
[1:04:54] reference point from before because it
[1:04:57] just simply doesn't I mean it doesn't
[1:05:00] make sense to go and get from before
[1:05:03] what I used to be, what I used to do,
[1:05:06] what I used to like um who I used to
[1:05:09] kind of um
[1:05:12] identify with. Now someone the other day
[1:05:14] was asking me a really important
[1:05:15] question which is is it possible to
[1:05:19] live purely from presence with no
[1:05:22] identities and my answer is very clearly
[1:05:25] no because here uh in human form in the
[1:05:29] human body the purpose of identities is
[1:05:32] clear they don't have to be stuck. So
[1:05:35] identities don't need to be
[1:05:36] disintegrated or you know dark aspects
[1:05:39] or anything like that don't but the way
[1:05:41] we interact with the world is through
[1:05:44] identif identifying with something and
[1:05:48] that's not a bad thing just so long as
[1:05:50] you don't remain attached to that
[1:05:52] identity. So you kind of meet the world
[1:05:56] and the people around you through
[1:05:59] whatever you are identifying in that
[1:06:03] moment. It doesn't mean that you're
[1:06:04] going to identify the same tomorrow. So,
[1:06:08] it also requires a lot of flexibility
[1:06:11] and being able to be okay with not
[1:06:14] knowing who you're going to wake up as
[1:06:17] like like uh tomorrow I might not feel
[1:06:21] the same way. It's okay. So, um in human
[1:06:27] form identity serves a wonderful
[1:06:29] purpose. So identity does not mean the
[1:06:32] same as ego in the way that that like
[1:06:36] Kathy was saying just now. So when we
[1:06:38] say the ego traps and all that what we
[1:06:41] mean is the the the traps of comparison
[1:06:45] of power games basically power games um
[1:06:48] >> forgetfulness forgetting that like when
[1:06:51] the world comes over your eyes
[1:06:54] >> that's all but identity um it doesn't
[1:06:57] necessarily forget you can be creating
[1:07:00] identity from that point of presence and
[1:07:03] you know you are exactly like Kathy
[1:07:05] shared like you go out and now you're at
[1:07:09] the job or now you're this and and you
[1:07:11] know and that's fine because it's not
[1:07:13] fixed uh in in like it's not written in
[1:07:16] an ancient tablet and it has to remain
[1:07:18] that way forever. It's what needs to be
[1:07:22] in that moment and and you are flexible
[1:07:25] enough to not need to be that constantly
[1:07:28] or not need to be that every day. So
[1:07:30] you're always discovering which way you
[1:07:34] are going to
[1:07:36] uh identify
[1:07:38] um in each moment. So um
[1:07:42] though it is uh not possible to interact
[1:07:45] in human form without some sort of
[1:07:48] identity
[1:07:50] um that is not a bad thing because that
[1:07:53] is when it's created from connection
[1:07:56] when it's created from being in the
[1:07:59] knowingness of presence that you are
[1:08:01] presence that you are creating your
[1:08:05] reality 100% of the time and everything
[1:08:07] that emanates in it is a reflection
[1:08:09] refction of you. H when you are in that
[1:08:13] knowingness um then it's coming from a
[1:08:17] clear source and therefore these are
[1:08:20] clear identities. They do not get stuck.
[1:08:23] So um it's it's not like the identity is
[1:08:27] a bad a bad kind of huge bad thing. And
[1:08:30] uh we're already on for an hour and
[1:08:32] eight minutes.
[1:08:35] [laughter]
[1:08:35] >> Yeah.
[1:08:37] >> And uh Yeah. So that's that's how it's
[1:08:41] been. And so then I started the
[1:08:43] Impassion project again, but not again
[1:08:46] because um it's completely different
[1:08:48] now. The offerings are different. And um
[1:08:52] basically now it it is here for the fun
[1:08:56] of of providing that space of presence
[1:09:00] um because I can. Um and in that of
[1:09:04] course it does provide support but it's
[1:09:06] not because I need to kind of save
[1:09:10] anyone from anything just like Kathy for
[1:09:13] sure. Uh we're not here to save anyone
[1:09:15] from their experience in any way. We are
[1:09:19] just here experiencing and within that
[1:09:22] experience sharing
[1:09:25] um possibilities and whoever wants to
[1:09:29] play with us within that um landscape.
[1:09:33] We are now launching the awesomeness
[1:09:36] unleashed divinely human for real online
[1:09:39] retreat which starts on the 17th of
[1:09:42] October and um our info and all of that
[1:09:46] is on our website. So, uh, both of our
[1:09:50] websites have the information there and,
[1:09:53] um,
[1:09:55] you can look it up and, uh, we will be
[1:09:58] diving deeply into
[1:10:01] just each one's very personal, very
[1:10:04] unique, very particular, uh, way of
[1:10:08] being present in everyday life and being
[1:10:12] able to clear whatever is not a
[1:10:16] reflection of that. So that more and
[1:10:18] more the life that you live reflects
[1:10:21] that. So there are in fact different
[1:10:24] there are very different realities and
[1:10:26] like the reality I live is sometimes so
[1:10:30] awesomely
[1:10:32] magic. I I I sometimes look and say wow
[1:10:36] really
[1:10:38] how could it I mean how could I ever
[1:10:41] doubt this? I mean this I'm living it
[1:10:44] every single day in that way. um that it
[1:10:48] shows me uh constantly
[1:10:51] that um wherever you're coming from in
[1:10:54] your consciousness is reflected in your
[1:10:58] reality. So um
[1:11:00] >> whatever needs to be cleared is very
[1:11:02] very welcome all the time and so that
[1:11:06] the the landscape stays clear within the
[1:11:09] emanation I am choosing to be.
[1:11:13] >> Yes. Fabulous. Thank you Tanya. That's
[1:11:16] so great. I'll just make a few comments
[1:11:18] so we can wrap it up here shortly. Thank
[1:11:20] you everyone who has joined us. You
[1:11:22] know, this whole thing. So, yes, check
[1:11:25] out our retreat. It's going to be a
[1:11:27] month-long October 17th uh through
[1:11:30] November 14th. We've got a couple days
[1:11:34] of retreat and also a private one-on-one
[1:11:38] uh session with both Tanya and I there
[1:11:40] uh to work with you as well. So, if
[1:11:43] you're going through anything or you're
[1:11:44] just simply ready for a quantum leap,
[1:11:47] like the last time I signed up for um
[1:11:50] you know, I did all William Lynville's
[1:11:52] mastery courses and to this day I'm
[1:11:54] like, "Thank God. I'm so glad I did it
[1:11:56] because the presence of somebody who has
[1:11:59] lived through it, who has released all
[1:12:02] these constraints, all these constructs,
[1:12:04] all these prisons that we live in. When
[1:12:07] you release that, then you give that
[1:12:10] gift to others. It is through presence.
[1:12:13] It is through frequency. I mean, when I
[1:12:15] worked with Will, I could feel it. It
[1:12:17] was like, and I still have this today.
[1:12:20] Like Tanya said, you know, we don't live
[1:12:21] in monasteries. We're out in life every
[1:12:23] day. I have a very busy human life now.
[1:12:26] Yet, I don't because my free time, I
[1:12:28] still like a lot of silence. So, Kathy,
[1:12:30] what are you doing this weekend?
[1:12:31] Nothing. Leave me alone. You know,
[1:12:33] sometimes it's like that. But, you know,
[1:12:36] and I still meet people. I know why
[1:12:38] they're brought into my life. I can feel
[1:12:40] the frequencies, the encodments of
[1:12:42] consciousness they hold and I can go,
[1:12:44] "Oh, yeah. I remember this. This is me,
[1:12:46] too. I was still contained in this area
[1:12:49] and then I embody it." It's so cool
[1:12:52] because it's not done through here. It's
[1:12:54] done through presence. And so that's
[1:12:57] what Tanya and I both um assist with is
[1:13:00] the majority of our work just happens by
[1:13:03] being in presence with people if they're
[1:13:05] open to it and willing. But of course, I
[1:13:07] do energy work and other things and I
[1:13:11] can show others how to do these things
[1:13:13] as well. Direct with source. Just let
[1:13:16] there be light because we're all energy
[1:13:18] workers. I mean, if you wake up every
[1:13:20] day and you say, "I'm so sick and tired
[1:13:22] of there." That's energy work on your
[1:13:25] body, you know? I mean it literally
[1:13:29] more the more and more we let go of the
[1:13:32] constructs, the identities, the things
[1:13:34] that have held us into this um we'll say
[1:13:37] perception of reality, the more we open
[1:13:39] up and you are a portal of source. Your
[1:13:42] body is a conduit like a lightning rod
[1:13:45] for that light. And the more that you
[1:13:47] open up, the more light you just bring
[1:13:49] through and it just goes where it needs
[1:13:51] to go. It does what it needs to do. It
[1:13:53] realigns my body, my mind. I'm healthier
[1:13:56] at 51 than I was at 41, then I was
[1:13:59] healthier at 41, than I was at 31. And I
[1:14:02] mean, this whole idea of aging is BS.
[1:14:05] Uh, just belief systems. And we don't
[1:14:07] even know what our bodies are capable of
[1:14:09] because we don't know. We're stepping
[1:14:12] into new territory, new energy. This is
[1:14:15] a whole amazing exploration. If you're
[1:14:19] not feeling that way, then I encourage
[1:14:21] you to, you know, join us. Um, and the
[1:14:25] thing about the identities, you know,
[1:14:27] playing in the world, I can go and I can
[1:14:30] be an employment consultant and I can go
[1:14:32] and talk to employers and then I can go
[1:14:34] hang out with friends and I can go do
[1:14:36] this and that.
[1:14:38] I'm going to bring this back to the
[1:14:41] unconditional love of source that we
[1:14:43] are. It's not about battling the
[1:14:45] identities. It's like you begin to
[1:14:47] really appreciate all that you've been
[1:14:51] like, "Wow, I was such a badass when I
[1:14:53] was younger. I was a on wheels,
[1:14:55] you know, and it's like I kind of like
[1:14:57] her. Like I still I can pull that card
[1:14:59] if you need me to, you know, [laughter]
[1:15:02] or you know, it's like I can be the boss
[1:15:05] at work. I was a leader for a long time.
[1:15:07] or this love that comes through me at
[1:15:10] times in events. I become completely
[1:15:13] silent and I might be completely patient
[1:15:16] while somebody just goes off and says
[1:15:18] things, but there is this presence of
[1:15:21] source that comes through you more and
[1:15:24] more that guides your actions. It will
[1:15:27] kind of possess you, if you will, but
[1:15:30] you're just being possessed by pure
[1:15:32] presence, by the love of all that is.
[1:15:35] And every day I wake up and say, "Make
[1:15:37] me an instrument." You know, wash away
[1:15:39] all that's not me. Because the more that
[1:15:42] the falsivities of who I thought I was
[1:15:45] get washed away, the more that I love
[1:15:49] all of it and I can play with all of it
[1:15:51] and I'm available for everything and
[1:15:53] anything. It's a matter now of how much
[1:15:56] can my body handle. like Tanya said
[1:15:59] about being very sick and ill with the
[1:16:02] density, you know, it's like your body
[1:16:04] goes through um things and there's days
[1:16:07] I crawl on my couch and I cover up with
[1:16:09] the blankie because I'm feeling
[1:16:11] sensitive, right? And I breathe. But we
[1:16:14] always have access to that presence,
[1:16:16] that breath, and to just bring more of
[1:16:18] that light through. And watch how it
[1:16:21] realines your body. It rejuvenates your
[1:16:23] body. It just takes care of everything.
[1:16:26] And to the old linear logical mind like
[1:16:29] I was a pricing manager. I was working
[1:16:32] in access. I mean I like numbers
[1:16:36] you know I would have said well that's
[1:16:38] crazy but you know who can really put a
[1:16:41] definition on divinity. Who really has
[1:16:44] written the book on the truth about what
[1:16:46] is of this whole grand creation? So um
[1:16:50] we're exploring it. We're really
[1:16:53] explorers um in this consciousness and
[1:16:57] it really does all come back to
[1:16:59] unconditional love. And love is not
[1:17:02] fluffy. I'm sorry for the people that
[1:17:04] don't like the word love and light. It's
[1:17:06] not effing fluffy. It is walking through
[1:17:08] your fears. It is facing the darkest of
[1:17:11] dark. It's looking at the most terrible,
[1:17:14] traumatic,
[1:17:15] awful, even disgusting things and
[1:17:17] saying, "It just is.
[1:17:21] I can look at it now because
[1:17:24] I'm not judging it. And when you can do
[1:17:27] that, you're free. And then you can play
[1:17:30] in the world and you can love everyone.
[1:17:31] You know, it's like you go in the world
[1:17:33] and everyone is sort of like family.
[1:17:35] Everyone is like friends. None are um
[1:17:38] now, okay, some are more enjoyable than
[1:17:40] others. This is where you can still, you
[1:17:43] know, the identities, you know, you're
[1:17:45] not going to go to the job and be like,
[1:17:48] "Hey, what's your name?" I don't have a
[1:17:50] name. I have a frequency. You know,
[1:17:53] [laughter]
[1:17:56] you need to be able to like relate and
[1:17:58] meet people where they are. So, you need
[1:18:00] to be able to still be in this world,
[1:18:03] right? Like, [laughter]
[1:18:05] >> yeah, I'm going to play Frisbee next.
[1:18:08] And uh so that would be funny like, oh,
[1:18:10] who are you? Oh, I'm I'm presents
[1:18:13] playing frisbee.
[1:18:16] [laughter]
[1:18:18] So, you need your human aspects. You
[1:18:21] need your ability to be human fully to
[1:18:24] go out and not be like a total weirdo.
[1:18:27] >> Yeah.
[1:18:29] [laughter]
[1:18:31] >> I mean, I'm a weirdo, but you know, I
[1:18:34] try to act normal.
[1:18:35] >> That's the thing. That's the That's the
[1:18:37] whole point right there. You are.
[1:18:41] [snorts]
[1:18:43] All right,
[1:18:44] Kathy. This has been so wonderful. Thank
[1:18:47] you very much. It's been so much longer
[1:18:49] than we had initially planned. Just so
[1:18:51] you know, we were about to do this for
[1:18:53] 45 minutes,
[1:18:55] [laughter]
[1:18:56] >> but it's been loads of fun and um who
[1:18:59] knows, we do it again. But anyway, check
[1:19:02] out our retreat, our online retreat, and
[1:19:06] um we look forward to playing with
[1:19:09] whoever will enjoy joining us.
[1:19:14] Thank you.