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[0:01] About a week ago,
[0:02] um I returned from Singapore
[0:06] from the triple platform ordination.
[0:09] Yay!
[0:10] >> [laughter]
[0:13] >> Um
[0:14] and it was venerable Kunga and venerable
[0:16] Pelgye and myself who went to Singapore
[0:19] for this ordination.
[0:21] Um so the triple platform is three
[0:24] ordinations, actually. We retake our
[0:27] novice ordination.
[0:29] Then we take full ordination and then
[0:31] the Bodhisattva precepts. And that
[0:34] happened the very last day we were
[0:36] there.
[0:38] And of course, there's very
[0:41] uh there's a lot that I could say about
[0:43] this experience.
[0:45] Um but what I wanted to focus on was
[0:50] the difference between my expectations
[0:53] of certain aspects of this process and
[0:56] what actually happened.
[0:59] And this was quite opposite.
[1:02] Um
[1:03] so as
[1:05] you know, uh prior to the ordination, I
[1:09] was feeling some anxiety,
[1:13] uh fear, stress,
[1:17] even dread.
[1:19] Um and I I kind of had this um idea that
[1:23] I just I wanted it to be over with.
[1:25] Uh we've we've been preparing for so
[1:27] long. There's been so much going into
[1:30] this, so much um
[1:33] I was feeling it sort of like pressure,
[1:35] so much going into this
[1:38] one really moment um that I just wanted
[1:41] it to be over.
[1:44] Um
[1:46] and what I will say now, it was the most
[1:50] impactful experience of my life.
[1:53] Um
[1:54] and I won't be the same.
[1:56] >> [laughter]
[1:57] >> I'm not the same.
[1:59] It reminded me actually of an experience
[2:02] I had right before coming to the Abbey
[2:05] for the very first time.
[2:07] I was in Atlanta and coming to a
[2:11] Buddhist monastery was totally different
[2:14] than anything I had ever done in my
[2:15] life.
[2:18] And before I left the Abbey for
[2:19] Singapore, I felt like that.
[2:22] This is different.
[2:25] I've I was at that point I had been a
[2:27] novice for almost 4 years.
[2:30] And you know, I felt pretty comfortable
[2:32] at the Abbey.
[2:34] Comfortable how we do things, how we
[2:37] practice the Dharma.
[2:39] And it was like, okay, I'm going to
[2:40] spend a month in a Chinese Buddhist
[2:44] temple in Singapore.
[2:46] It really felt like a big departure.
[2:49] And I was, yeah, quite apprehensive
[2:51] about it.
[2:52] It was like, this is different. This is
[2:54] new.
[2:57] So,
[2:59] one of the first things I learned was
[3:02] where I was going to be taking
[3:03] ordination. So, I took ordination at
[3:06] Xuan Lin Monastery.
[3:09] And the nuns were at Pu Ti Temple.
[3:12] And so, um
[3:14] the nuns were there. We were pretty much
[3:16] separate the whole ordination.
[3:19] Um one day the monks went over to the
[3:21] temple where the nuns were. We took a
[3:23] group photo. We welcomed and the uh
[3:28] preceptors and the witnesses were
[3:30] introduced and there was a big lunch.
[3:33] And other than that, we didn't go back
[3:35] to the temple. Um the nuns came to uh
[3:39] Xuan Lin
[3:41] for the full ordination. At the end of
[3:43] their full ordination, um to go before
[3:47] the Bhikkhu Sangha and then also for the
[3:49] Bodhisattva precepts and also for the
[3:52] arms round.
[3:54] Um but we were pretty separate the whole
[3:57] time.
[3:59] And
[4:00] so I had heard and, you know, seen
[4:03] online that Shuang Lin Monastery was in
[4:06] the middle of Singapore.
[4:08] On the map, it was right next to a
[4:10] highway.
[4:12] I thought, "Oh, no." I mean, many of the
[4:15] people at the Abbey, the the nuns and
[4:17] and Ven. Losang, they went to this, you
[4:20] know, temple in the middle of the
[4:22] mountains in Taiwan.
[4:24] And of course, I was romanticizing that.
[4:26] Oh, how nice that would have been. And
[4:28] I'm in the middle of a city.
[4:31] Um I will say it was a really amazing
[4:35] place.
[4:36] Um Shuang Lin is over 100 years old.
[4:40] Um it was founded in 1898.
[4:44] Um it's one of the oldest temples in
[4:45] Singapore.
[4:47] And
[4:48] you know, we've been under construction
[4:50] at Sravasti Abbey for some time.
[4:53] They've been renovating this temple for
[4:55] over 30 years.
[4:58] Right?
[4:59] Um and they weren't just starting from
[5:01] scratch, you know, they were renovating
[5:03] a very old uh
[5:05] complex of buildings.
[5:08] Um
[5:09] and what they have done is absolutely
[5:10] amazing. It was It's one of the most
[5:12] gorgeous temples I've seen. Although, I
[5:14] haven't seen many temples. But But it
[5:17] was It's It's absolutely gorgeous.
[5:19] And what what really surprised me was
[5:22] all the monks, 36 monks, were living in
[5:25] one room, in basically the basement.
[5:28] And
[5:29] because there were so many buildings
[5:32] between the highway and where we were
[5:33] living, it was extremely quiet.
[5:36] And there was this beautiful little
[5:38] courtyard. And when I looked up, I could
[5:41] see the the main hall
[5:45] and and the sky. And then all of these
[5:47] Chinese roofs around. And I didn't see
[5:51] from from the lower perspective, the
[5:53] lower level, I couldn't see the other
[5:55] buildings, the skyscrapers that were
[5:57] surrounding the temple. So, I was like
[6:01] in my own little world. And it was
[6:03] really amazing. We would walk from the
[6:05] basement to the next floor, which was
[6:08] where we um chanted. We did morning and
[6:10] evening service in their Buddha Hall.
[6:14] Um and then we walked to the dining
[6:16] room, which was on that level.
[6:18] And then we walked up another floor and
[6:20] that was where the teachings were and
[6:22] the rehearsals. And on that level, you
[6:24] could see kind of where we were in the
[6:26] context of Singapore. I mean, surrounded
[6:29] by skyscrapers.
[6:31] But down at the basement, it was this
[6:34] our own little world. Um and it really
[6:36] felt like that.
[6:38] Um so
[6:40] it was very different than I had
[6:42] anticipated.
[6:44] Um
[6:45] the other thing that was very different
[6:48] than how I was thinking about it at
[6:50] first was we have what are called
[6:53] guides.
[6:55] Um not to be confused with guards.
[6:59] Although Although they're kind of like
[7:01] guards
[7:02] in that they're constantly walking
[7:05] around pointing out uh mistakes, you
[7:09] know, in how you wear your robes, how
[7:11] you walk. Um do you cover your feet when
[7:15] you're kneeling? If not, they will pull
[7:17] your robe and cover your feet. Um does
[7:20] the bowl that holds the arms bowl, is it
[7:23] creased? Is it folded on your shoulder?
[7:26] Is your collar okay?
[7:29] Um did you pull the left bowl to the
[7:32] right or did you first or did you pull
[7:36] the right bowl to the left? How do you
[7:39] uh fold your napkin? And is it perfectly
[7:42] aligned with the front of the table?
[7:46] Is your high ching under your rear and
[7:49] your precept robe um around your rear?
[7:54] So like we were getting feedback
[7:56] constantly. [laughter]
[7:58] Right? And then not only were there
[8:00] guides, and again, there were only 36
[8:02] monk monks. There were I think five
[8:05] guides. So we had um a lot of attention.
[8:10] There was also the disciplinarian
[8:13] for the monastery, and he was this kind
[8:16] of big, tough-looking guy, looked kind
[8:18] of like a bouncer. And he would walk
[8:20] around the Buddha Hall on the perimeter.
[8:23] He'd walk, stop, turn, walk, stop, turn.
[8:29] And he would be looking
[8:30] at us. And every time when he would turn
[8:34] the corner, I thought, "Oh, no, he's
[8:35] going to
[8:36] he's going to, you know, tap me on the
[8:37] shoulder, he's going to tug my robe."
[8:39] But he never touched me.
[8:42] Um but as as time went on, I realized
[8:46] "Oh, they're helping us.
[8:50] They're not there to harm us
[8:53] or to point out all of our faults.
[8:57] They're there to help us." And I had
[8:59] this very strong
[9:01] um impression as we were chanting, as
[9:04] the disciplinarian was doing his laps,
[9:07] as the guides were walking around,
[9:10] tugging on robes.
[9:13] "Oh, this is like the embodiment of
[9:17] mindfulness and introspective awareness.
[9:21] Right? It's like the mind that's
[9:23] constantly aware of what am I doing
[9:27] physically? What am I doing verbally?
[9:29] What am I doing mentally?
[9:31] Right here, it's an embodiment, this
[9:34] whole temple was this enclosed
[9:37] environment, and it really it seemed
[9:40] like the the whole Chinese tradition and
[9:42] the whole way this program was set up
[9:45] was an embodiment of Dharma practice.
[9:49] And when I saw the guides like that,
[9:52] it's like, "Oh, well, is it the case
[9:54] that every time I see a guide, I
[9:56] remember the instructions?" Yes. I see
[10:00] the disciplinarian, how's my posture?
[10:03] I see one particular guide, "Oh, no, did
[10:05] I fold my napkin correctly?"
[10:08] So, it was so helpful.
[10:10] They didn't even have to say anything.
[10:12] [laughter] They just had to stand there
[10:14] looking as they were looking and
[10:16] immediately my mindfulness and
[10:19] introspective awareness
[10:21] started or restarted. I regained
[10:25] mindfulness.
[10:27] And so that was that was so different
[10:29] than how I was originally
[10:31] conceptualizing of them.
[10:35] Another thing that that happened um
[10:39] that really surprised me
[10:42] um
[10:44] was
[10:45] in the evening we would often do the
[10:47] repentance chant. And it was extremely
[10:50] beautiful. Many of the guides had
[10:52] beautiful voices.
[10:54] Um it was kind of being like back in
[10:56] men's chorus
[10:58] um that I had been in in my lay life.
[11:01] But for a very different reason and um
[11:04] and it was so beautiful. And I remember
[11:07] one night my mind was very uh turbulent,
[11:12] very afflicted.
[11:15] And it was amazing.
[11:17] The guide that, you know, originally I
[11:19] thought was kind of stern
[11:21] he said to the whole group
[11:25] you had an unstable mind.
[11:28] But now after chanting it is more
[11:30] settled.
[11:33] Yes.
[11:35] Yes, that is true.
[11:36] And I felt in that moment I felt so
[11:39] cared for
[11:40] and seen.
[11:42] Like, oh, they're they're really they're
[11:44] really trying to take care of us.
[11:47] And what I heard repeatedly from this
[11:49] guide, who was the the lead guide he
[11:52] kept saying, "The abbot is so
[11:54] compassionate.
[11:56] The abbot is so compassionate."
[12:00] We were supposed to be sleeping on the
[12:02] floor.
[12:03] That's why we were instructed to bring
[12:05] sleeping bags.
[12:07] But the abbot said, "No. They're not
[12:09] going to sleep on the floor."
[12:10] And he made sure that the temple bought
[12:13] us beds
[12:15] and sheets
[12:17] and blankets and pillows.
[12:21] It was It was really amazing.
[12:24] Um you know, at first it's like oh, the
[12:26] abbot, you know, kind of scary.
[12:29] And but they kept saying the abbot is so
[12:31] compassionate. And one day after our nap
[12:34] time, which was quite nice,
[12:37] um I stood up and there was the abbot.
[12:41] And he said, "Everything okay?"
[12:45] Yes.
[12:47] It was so beautiful. It was this this
[12:50] older monk and
[12:52] it just
[12:53] I was just struck by his kindness. And I
[12:56] was like, why was I surprised that the
[12:58] abbot was kind? But
[12:59] I [snorts] was.
[13:01] >> [laughter]
[13:02] >> And he was. He was really um really
[13:05] kind.
[13:11] The um another part of the the whole
[13:15] program that really took me by surprise
[13:18] was the alms round.
[13:20] And again, I had heard from those who
[13:22] had been to Taiwan, "Oh, the alms round,
[13:24] you go into the city. It's really this
[13:27] amazing experience. You know, you're
[13:29] walking on the sidewalks." Okay, so
[13:31] Singapore law, you can't do that.
[13:34] So then I found out, "Oh, you're going
[13:35] to be doing alms round within the temple
[13:38] complex."
[13:40] Oh, really? And you know, and then I
[13:41] found out it's going to be like through
[13:42] the parking lot.
[13:46] Really? This is the alms round? I was
[13:48] like, this is so fake. This is just
[13:50] going to be so fake. Like this like
[13:53] festival that happens at the school
[13:55] parking lot. You know, you have little
[13:57] booths and it's all kind of
[13:58] manufactured. It's not authentic.
[14:02] So I had this impression going into that
[14:04] day. Actually, that very morning,
[14:07] you know, we we were told, you know,
[14:08] okay, the the people um offering you
[14:11] things are going to be on one side, the
[14:13] volunteers are going to be on the other
[14:14] side.
[14:16] I said, is so fake and they're telling
[14:18] us how to comport ourselves.
[14:21] It was not fake.
[14:23] It was the most beautiful experience
[14:26] I've ever had.
[14:28] Um they told us to
[14:30] you know, look straight ahead, look at
[14:32] the back of the person in front of you,
[14:35] hold your bowl like this, hold it like
[14:38] this to pour out the offerings into the
[14:41] bags that the volunteers were holding.
[14:44] It was so incredible. There
[14:47] it the the I mean, the temple was full
[14:50] of lay people wanting to support um all
[14:54] of us.
[14:56] And so, on my left there were all of
[14:59] these lay people with so much devotion.
[15:03] They wanted to be there to support the
[15:05] newly ordained.
[15:07] Then on my right were all of these
[15:09] volunteers also supporting us, wanting
[15:13] to help.
[15:14] And then around
[15:16] the guides
[15:18] and the abbot
[15:20] holding this whole
[15:22] this whole experience.
[15:24] And it was incredible. And at first, I
[15:26] thought, "Oh, that's so rude. I'm not
[15:29] going to say anything." They told us you
[15:31] cannot acknowledge their offering. You
[15:33] just keep going and you can't turn
[15:35] around and you can't go back if if
[15:37] someone's calling out to you, you can't
[15:39] go back. I thought that's incredibly
[15:41] rude. We would never do that in you
[15:43] know, America.
[15:46] And what I found was that
[15:48] by not getting involved
[15:51] I was able to keep my mind stable. It's
[15:55] like, "Okay, cute kid,
[15:57] nice old lady, stranger, fossa."
[16:02] And the whole time it was the point was
[16:05] to develop equanimity.
[16:07] And to not be
[16:09] angry when I didn't get an offering or
[16:12] to be elated when I did get an offering
[16:14] or to or compare myself with the person
[16:16] ahead of me or behind me.
[16:18] If they want to make an offering,
[16:20] wonderful. If they don't make an
[16:21] offering, fine.
[16:24] So, it was this whole It was a new way
[16:26] of relating to people that was totally
[16:28] different.
[16:31] So, lastly, um
[16:33] the night before the Bodhisattva
[16:37] precepts,
[16:38] um we had the opportunity to make a very
[16:43] special offering to the Buddha
[16:46] that I think most of the fully ordained
[16:49] here um
[16:51] have done.
[16:53] And that was as part of the Bodhisattva
[16:56] precepts, um one aspect
[16:59] was to show your commitment to the
[17:02] Bodhisattva path
[17:03] was to make an offering of incense to
[17:07] the Buddha
[17:08] by burning incense on your head.
[17:13] And so, um for those with hair, it kind
[17:17] of is much more disguised,
[17:19] >> [laughter]
[17:20] >> but for myself, it's very clear.
[17:24] And
[17:25] this was another experience I thought,
[17:27] "Oh, wow, this is going to be horrible.
[17:30] This This [laughter]
[17:31] This
[17:32] This is going to be excruciating."
[17:35] And I was quite nervous, um and and I
[17:38] even started thinking of reasons why I
[17:40] should get out of it. Like, "Oh, I
[17:42] really can't do this."
[17:44] Um
[17:46] And so, I I walk in to the hall
[17:49] and we start chanting
[17:52] homage to Shakyamuni Buddha.
[17:56] And the And then the
[17:58] the the preceptor and the two acharyas
[18:01] walk in.
[18:04] And then we start forming lines, and
[18:06] they start marking where they will put
[18:09] the incense.
[18:12] And really we the whole
[18:16] the whole environment, the whole energy
[18:18] of the space changed. It was this is a
[18:21] sacred moment.
[18:23] Right? This is not at all scary.
[18:26] Um and it's not about that.
[18:30] And it wasn't about me.
[18:32] It was about generating compassion.
[18:35] And
[18:37] showing our commitment to the
[18:38] Bodhisattva path.
[18:41] And I had the opportunity to um kneel
[18:46] before the main preceptor, uh venerable
[18:48] Master Chong Song.
[18:52] And
[18:53] when I had seen him, you know, when he's
[18:56] on the, you know,
[18:57] uh platform and teaching and he was kind
[19:01] of stern.
[19:03] And when he was there and I I saw as he
[19:07] was doing it for other people, placing
[19:09] the incense with such care and
[19:12] compassion.
[19:15] It was a It was like a totally different
[19:16] person.
[19:18] And I felt so held
[19:20] um and comforted by him.
[19:23] And I knelt down
[19:25] and he, you know, very carefully placed
[19:28] the incense and it's and lit them
[19:32] and it started to burn.
[19:36] And I thought
[19:38] of the suffering of others.
[19:41] There's so much suffering in this world.
[19:45] And in all the realms.
[19:48] This little tiny bit of pain is nothing.
[19:54] And I kept waiting for the pain to be
[19:57] unbearable.
[20:00] And it was never unbearable.
[20:04] And I thought this is the power of
[20:06] compassion.
[20:09] And I'm so happy I did it.
[20:12] It was like
[20:14] wow.
[20:17] And I think it was actually then
[20:20] that I received the Bodhisattva
[20:21] precepts.
[20:23] Not the next day,
[20:25] cuz I was quite confused, cuz we didn't
[20:27] have interpretation.
[20:28] >> [laughter]
[20:29] >> It was that moment.
[20:31] The preceptor was sitting in front of me
[20:33] and I was kneeling.
[20:35] It was like
[20:37] this. This is it.
[20:40] Um
[20:41] yeah. And so now I now I have a um
[20:45] physical manifestation of that
[20:48] that I will always remember.
[20:50] So, I didn't think I'd get this
[20:52] emotional.
[20:53] But um
[20:55] it was yeah, the most impactful
[20:58] experience in my life.
[21:00] And I won't be the same.
[21:02] And I can't be the same mentally or
[21:04] physically.
[21:06] And now, as I was
[21:08] recently mentioning to Venerable Lhamo
[21:10] Sal, now I have to like
[21:12] reorient myself.
[21:15] It's like I'm coming now from a new
[21:17] perspective.
[21:18] It's like, okay, who am I now? What does
[21:21] this mean?
[21:22] What does this mean for my practice? How
[21:24] do I practice Buddhism?
[21:26] Everything's different.
[21:29] I thought I could just be kind of
[21:30] complacent.
[21:32] I can't. It's totally different now.
[21:35] So, thank you for the opportunity,
[21:38] Venerable Children, and for the
[21:40] community.
[21:41] And uh
[21:43] yeah, we'll see
[21:44] um where it goes from here.
[21:46] So,
[21:48] yeah, it was a it was an amazing
[21:50] experience and um I have more to share,
[21:53] but that's that's it for now.