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Finding the Infinite in Ordinary Life: A Vedanta Inquiry

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Swami Sarvapriyananda
Nov 4, 2026
10 min di lettura

Da Vedanta Society of New York

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On a Sunday morning at the start of a fall session, a full house sits quietly as a chant rises: Om asato ma sadgamaya, lead us from the unreal to the real. The speaker, Swami Sarvapriyananda of the Vedanta Society of New York, opens with a provocation rather than doctrine. Outside, the weather is "a very wet and windy kind of ordinary experience," and he asks where, in that, the infinite could possibly be. Everything looks finite and changeful. The hour that follows is an attempt to show that Vedanta claims the opposite: the infinite is not a remote mystical summit reserved for saints but the reality underneath every ordinary moment, and our own awareness is the evidence. The talk moves from the Upanishadic formula sat, chit, ananda, through the witness consciousness that stands behind waking, dreaming and deep sleep, to the freedom it calls living liberation.

Lettura · 11 sezioni

Why look for the infinite in the ordinary at all?

The talk begins with a phrase the speaker says he has been repeating all summer, from New York to London to Australia and New Zealand. At a conference at Stony Brook University on Vedanta, a professor from Brazil described the tradition as "an extraordinary clarification of ordinary experience" (video, 2:09). The speaker loved the line, and it frames the whole inquiry.

His reasoning is simple. Mystics in every tradition have had extraordinary experiences that convinced them that God exists and that our true nature is spiritual. But such experiences, he says, have a weakness: "they are extraordinary, they are rare and they can be doubted." Ordinary experience is the one thing no one has to take on faith. So the talk's central claim is bold and deliberately practical: "The infinite is available to us not only in extraordinary experiences but in ordinary experiences."

The obstacle is that the infinite is already here but "covered up by the veil of the finite." Discovering it, in his telling, is less like acquiring something new than like mining for a buried ore. The method is not to leave the ordinary behind but to look more carefully at it.

What does Brahman actually mean?

Vedanta's word for ultimate reality is Brahman, and the speaker begins with its meaning. He traces the word to a root that means to expand without limit, to swell without limit: the vast. That etymology matters because it sets the tone. Brahman is not a particular object in the world, however large. It is what has no edge.

The definition the talk returns to comes from the Taittiriya Upanishad, sung as a refrain during the opening (video, 5:10): satyam jnanam anantam brahma. Reality, knowledge or consciousness, and the infinite is Brahman. The speaker unpacks it word by word. Sat is existence or being, the bare is-ness of things. Jnanam, or chit, is awareness or consciousness. Ananda, in the talk's later terms, is bliss. Three words, which Vedanta insists are not three separate things but one reality seen from three sides.

How do sat, chit and ananda answer philosophy's oldest questions?

This is the piece of the talk that the speaker says "struck" him a couple of years earlier, and it is the most original move in the lecture. He notes that philosophy has three branches, each built on one great question. Metaphysics, which he updates with the more modern name ontology, asks what is real. Epistemology asks how we know anything. Axiology, the study of values, asks what the point of it all is: what is good, what is worth having, what we are chasing.

Vedanta, he argues, answered all three, and did so five thousand years ago in the Upanishads. Sat answers the question of reality: existence itself is what is real. Chit answers the question of knowledge: experience is possible because of consciousness. Ananda answers the question of value: bliss is the point.

"It struck me that these are actually the answers to the deepest questions of philosophy. The greatest questions that we have ever asked."

(Swami Sarvapriyananda, in the talk, 9:28)

That is why the infinite can be found in the ordinary. If existence, knowledge and value are the ultimate answers, then every ordinary act of being, perceiving and caring is already an expression of them. The talk then pushes the claim further: these are not three different things but one reality, and the inquiry turns from definitions toward a single question the listener can check directly.

Can you really be certain that you exist?

The chapter on "I exist" (17:22) makes that check. The speaker admits that as a non-philosopher he might doubt almost anything, and he sketches the doubt playfully: "Am I a philosopher who is dreaming he is a butterfly, or am I a butterfly who is now dreaming that he's a philosopher?" Then he returns to the one thing that survives the doubt. "I exist," he says, and then, to make the point stick: "Yeah, I exist."

The argument is not that the body or the mind is certain. Bodies change, thoughts change, and the speaker acknowledges that even the body is not the subject of the inquiry. What he means is that the bare fact of being aware, of existing as the one who experiences, is the most certain thing we know, and it requires no proof. Later in the talk he presses the same point with a stark example: "I am tormented on the rack, but I exist." Pain can be total and still leave the existence of the one who feels it untouched.

What is the witness consciousness?

The key term of the middle part of the talk is sakshi, witness consciousness, the awareness that observes whatever arises without itself becoming any of it (video, 24:08). The speaker gives a formula for ordinary perception that he wants the audience to hold onto: "Consciousness plus object is equal to experience." Colors, shapes, people and sounds appear, and consciousness is the light in which they appear. "That's what we call seeing," he says, and the chair, the room and the camera are all objects appearing before a single awareness.

The implication is that every experience has two components, and only one of them changes. Objects come and go. The awareness that makes them available does not. The speaker is careful to say that this is not a theory added on top of experience but a description of experience itself, which he calls "ordinary knowledge itself, ordinary perception itself."

What happens to awareness in dreams and deep sleep?

The chapter on dreams and deep sleep (29:57) tests the claim at its hardest point. If consciousness is present in waking life, is it present when the world vanishes in dreamless sleep? The speaker's answer is that when nothing comes before awareness, the absence itself is what is revealed. "If nothing comes in front of it, that nothing itself is revealed" (video, 33:53). He extends the same reasoning to general anesthesia, arguing that the thread of awareness is not broken by the loss of objects, only by the loss of the objects themselves.

This is the subtlest part of the talk, and it is where a listener is most likely to push back. The speaker's answer rests on his earlier definition of awareness as something that does not depend on what it is aware of. The witness is continuous because it is not one of the things that come and go.

Why don't experiences change consciousness?

The chapters on continuous awareness (34:30) and on experiences leaving consciousness untouched (43:44) bring the argument into daily life. Thoughts rise, mood shifts, the mind is changeful. The speaker's insistence is that none of this alters what is aware of it. "Consciousness is ever the same," he says (video, 43:44). The mind is a moving field; consciousness is the stillness in which the field is seen.

This is also where the talk's language of light deepens. "Intellect, mind is a great light," he says, but the mind shines only by borrowing a light it does not own. That borrowed light is what the talk moves toward next.

What is the "light of lights"?

The chapter at 51:34 is titled around the phrase "light of lights." The speaker describes consciousness this way: "It is the light of lights forever beyond darkness." The image is the traditional Vedantic one: the sun does not need another lamp to be seen, and whatever is seen is seen by its light. Consciousness is not one more item in the list of things we perceive. It is that by which the list appears at all.

This is why the talk can say that consciousness is never touched by what it reveals. Experiences are real as experiences, but they are illumined, not illuminating.

Is the universe appearing inside consciousness?

The chapter on nonduality (1:02:12) carries the argument to its final step. If consciousness is the one reality, then the world is not a separate thing standing outside it. The speaker has already signalled this movement with the recognition statement aham brahmasmi, "I am Brahman," which he introduces with the observation that the claim "goes even further, even more dramatic" than what came before. The universe, in this picture, is not a rival to the infinite. It is the infinite appearing as a show within consciousness, and nothing in it stands apart from the one awareness that holds it.

That is a demanding idea, and the talk does not pretend otherwise. But the discipline it asks for is the same one the earlier chapters practised: attend to what is actually present in experience, and notice what does not change.

What does freedom look like amid life's challenges?

The final chapter (1:08:26) turns from theory to conduct. The speaker names the state he has been describing as jivan mukti, freedom while living. His summary is compact: "This is enlightenment in both senses of the word" (video, 73:47). The first sense is intellectual clarity about what we are. The second is the living freedom that follows when that clarity is no longer only an idea.

The practical payoff, as the talk frames it, is that challenges remain challenges. Weather, illness, loss and pain still occur. What changes is the relationship to them, because the one who is aware of them is not disturbed by them. This is the sense in which the infinite is found in the ordinary: not by escaping the wet and windy day but by recognising the awareness in which it occurs.

Where to go from here

The talk is dense and rewards a second listen. Start with the chapters on "I exist" and the witness consciousness, since they supply the vocabulary the later sections depend on. Then test the claim in your own experience: notice a single ordinary perception, and ask what remains constant while the objects change. Vedanta's own introductory material, organised by scripture and by topic, is available through the Vedanta Society of New York at vedantany.org/introductory-lectures and vedantany.org/by-topic. Keep the speaker's own warning in mind: the aim is not a new belief but a clarification of what is already here.

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[0:05] Om Asato Ma Sadgamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya Mrityur Ma Amritam Gamaya

[0:26] Om Shanti Shanti Shanti. Om, lead us from the unreal to the real, lead us from darkness

[0:36] to light, lead us from death to immortality.

[0:40] Om, peace, peace, peace.

[0:47] Namaste and welcome back everybody.

[0:50] We are starting our fall session.

[0:53] I am actually surprised, so many brave souls.

[0:57] I thought the weather would put off many people

[0:59] from turning up but we have a full house.

[1:04] We are especially delighted and honoured to welcome

[1:08] Swami Ishadhyananandaji who is a monk from our Vedanta Society in Sacramento.

[1:15] He is here on a special assignment.

[1:18] He is speaking at the Vivekananda Vidyapith in New Jersey.

[1:22] But we are delighted to have him here with us this Sunday morning

[1:25] when we reopen.

[1:27] The subject this morning you might have seen

[1:31] is finding the infinite in the ordinary.

[1:36] Maharaj will recall when we became monks we took a vow to speak about the vast,

[1:43] the great, not to speak about petty things.

[1:46] Brihadvadhemasu Viraha.

[1:48] Let us speak now, from now on let us speak of the vast, of the great.

[1:55] Finding the infinite in the ordinary, what do you mean by the infinite

[2:01] and why look for it in the ordinary?

[2:05] A couple of months back just before we closed for summer, there was

[2:09] a conference in Stony Brook University on Vedanta and a professor

[2:16] from Brazil no less, he characterized, he gave a wonderful characterization

[2:22] of Vedanta as an extraordinary clarification

[2:26] of ordinary experience and I loved that.

[2:29] I have been repeating it all summer all over the world.

[2:34] I saw literally went from, I flew from New York to London to Australia and

[2:40] New Zealand and from there came back to New York.

[2:43] So literally around the world wherever I went often I would say

[2:46] this extraordinary clarification of ordinary experience.

[2:51] Now right at the outset the extraordinary, the divine, the spiritual, the infinite,

[2:56] it is available in extraordinary experience

[2:58] there's no doubt about it.

[3:00] Saints and sages and mystics throughout the ages

[3:03] in every spiritual tradition have had extraordinary experiences

[3:07] which have proved to them the truth of the claims of religion that God exists,

[3:13] that our true nature is spiritual not material

[3:16] in extraordinary experiences.

[3:19] But the problem with extraordinary experiences is

[3:21] they are extraordinary, they are rare and they can be doubted.

[3:26] What we have is ordinary experience and the grand beauty of Vedanta is

[3:33] that it is accessible to us right here, right now.

[3:38] The infinite is available to us not only in extraordinary experiences

[3:43] but in ordinary experiences.

[3:45] One might as well say, you know I am having an ordinary experience, a very wet

[3:52] and windy kind of ordinary experience.

[3:54] Where is the infinite here?

[3:55] There's nothing infinite here, everything is finite,

[3:57] everything is changeful, everything is just life.

[4:02] It requires an extraordinary clarification.

[4:05] That's what we will attempt to do this morning,

[4:07] nothing less.

[4:08] We're going to discover the infinite.

[4:11] Discovering the infinite requires us to uncover it.

[4:14] It's already here

[4:15] but it's covered up by the veil of the finite.

[4:18] We're going to dig into it. Mine for the infinite, not crypto.

[4:22] We're going to mine for the infinite now.

[4:27] What do you mean by the infinite?

[4:29] Vedanta has a very precise understanding of it, a very grand understanding.

[4:34] When we start up and we look into Vedanta, it's talking about Brahman,

[4:37] the Sanskrit word Brahman which means the vast.

[4:40] The literal, the etymological if you go into it, the word

[4:43] Brahman comes from the root brin-hadhatu which is which means to expand without

[4:48] limit, swell without limit, the vast.

[4:52] When we look into what Vedanta is saying about

[4:57] ultimate reality, it is so grand

[5:01] and it's so deeply philosophical, so high and seems so abstract.

[5:07] Just now you're hearing the beautiful refrain.

[5:10] This is from the Taittiriya Upanishad.

[5:13] What is that ultimate reality?

[5:14] Satyam jnanam anantam brahma.

[5:17] As we were singing right now, existence or being, reality, that is Brahman.

[5:23] Jnanam, knowledge or consciousness, awareness, that is Brahman.

[5:28] And limitless being and limitless consciousness,

[5:31] that is Brahman.

[5:32] Satyam jnanam anantam.

[5:35] Reality, consciousness, limitless, that is Brahman.

[5:39] So abstract and so philosophical.

[5:43] It struck me sometime a couple of years ago

[5:46] that the greatest questions that we ask in philosophy, there are three branches

[5:53] of philosophy, each based on one of those great questions.

[5:57] The deepest questions that we have ever asked ever

[5:59] in any civilization.

[6:03] One question is what is real?

[6:06] The question about reality.

[6:07] What's the truth here?

[6:08] What's the reality?

[6:09] Is matter real?

[6:10] Is energy real?

[6:10] Are quarks real?

[6:12] Is Harry Potter real?

[6:14] Is the number one real?

[6:17] What's reality?

[6:18] Is God real?

[6:19] Is mind real?

[6:21] What is reality?

[6:23] What is reality?

[6:24] What is appearance?

[6:25] When we ask these questions about reality, about being, the subject, the branch

[6:31] of philosophy which deals with these questions is called metaphysics.

[6:35] Used to be.

[6:36] Now there's a new name, a more fancy name, ontology.

[6:39] Ontos from the being, from existence.

[6:42] So ontology.

[6:43] And then there is another question which comes immediately

[6:46] after we make ontological claims.

[6:49] You know, God is real or heaven is real or super strings are real.

[6:53] Immediately the question will come, the question of knowledge.

[6:56] How do you know?

[6:58] On what basis are you saying these things?

[7:01] A question about knowledge.

[7:02] How did you know anything?

[7:03] How did you know these things?

[7:04] That branch of philosophy which is necessary, which goes immediately

[7:08] with ontology is called epistemology.

[7:11] Knowledge, the study of knowledge.

[7:13] Any kind of knowledge.

[7:17] Epistemology, how do you know anything?

[7:19] And finally there's another branch of philosophy called axiology.

[7:23] It's not a common term but what it means is the study of values.

[7:28] What is right?

[7:29] What is wrong?

[7:30] What used to be called morality or ethics?

[7:32] It's part of axiology.

[7:34] What is the point of it all?

[7:36] You can talk about the infinite, ordinary, extraordinary but what is it to me?

[7:41] What do I get out of all?

[7:42] What do I get out of this whole deal?

[7:45] What's the point of it?

[7:46] What's the goal?

[7:47] Is there any goal?

[7:48] Is there anything that we can expect in life?

[7:51] What's the point of the universe?

[7:52] What's the point of life?

[7:54] Aesthetics, beauty, all of these are under one head called axiology.

[8:00] Now it struck me a couple of years ago, our understanding of the infinite

[8:05] in Vedanta is an answer to these three questions.

[8:09] What is ultimately real?

[8:12] What's reality itself?

[8:13] And Vedanta has a bold, all the way back to the Upanishads,

[8:16] five thousand years ago, straightforward, direct, bold answer which

[8:21] we just heard in melodious music now.

[8:23] Sat or Satyam, being itself, existence itself is reality.

[8:29] Now what it means, we'll investigate, but existence itself is reality.

[8:33] Existence, being, is-ness, that is the ultimate reality.

[8:38] How do you know anything?

[8:40] The question of knowledge, epistemological question.

[8:44] And again a bold answer from all the way back to the Upanishads.

[8:49] Chaitanyam, consciousness.

[8:51] We experience, we know, experience is possible,

[8:54] knowledge is possible because of consciousness.

[8:57] Chit, in Sanskrit, consciousness.

[9:00] And then is there a point to it?

[9:02] What can we expect in life?

[9:03] What are we chasing?

[9:04] What's good?

[9:05] What's worth having?

[9:07] What's the value point of all of this?

[9:09] And again a bold and direct answer from the Upanishads.

[9:13] Ananda, bliss.

[9:17] So existence, consciousness, bliss.

[9:20] Sat, chit, ananda.

[9:22] These are the answers and this is how we define Brahman.

[9:25] This is how we characterize the ultimate reality.

[9:28] But it struck me that these are actually the answers

[9:32] to the deepest questions of philosophy.

[9:34] The greatest questions that we have ever asked.

[9:37] Sat, chit, ananda.

[9:39] The answers to the questions, the metaphysical, ontological question

[9:42] about reality, the epistemological question

[9:44] about knowledge and the axiological question about value,

[9:48] the point of it all, the purpose of it all.

[9:52] Sat, chit, ananda.

[9:53] This is just the beginning.

[9:55] Vedanta goes on to make an even more bold claim that this sat,

[9:59] chit, ananda, these are not three different things.

[10:02] They are one thing.

[10:04] There is one reality, that ultimate reality which gives reality

[10:08] to the entire universe.

[10:09] It's the reality of our entire universe and ourselves.

[10:13] And that makes possible all experience which we have.

[10:16] The experience which we are having now, ordinary experience.

[10:20] It makes it possible.

[10:22] And that same thing is the goal and purpose of life.

[10:26] Ananda, bliss.

[10:28] So they are very same.

[10:29] It is one reality which in itself combines the answers to the ontological,

[10:35] epistemological and axiological questions.

[10:37] What a grand, grand claim.

[10:39] Just look at the vision.

[10:41] Just look at the vision.

[10:43] Swami Vivekananda said, those Vedic rishis, they took philosophy

[10:48] to such heights where he says, human lung can scarce dare breathe.

[10:53] You feel starved of oxygen there.

[10:56] It's such stratospheric heights.

[10:59] Elliot, T.S. Elliot, he took a course in Indian philosophy

[11:04] at Harvard University.

[11:05] And I recently found out his tutor was Josiah Royce, who was in,

[11:09] was one of the American idealists.

[11:11] And he was in close contact, in dialogue actually.

[11:14] I think he met Swami Vivekananda and definitely he had long discussions

[11:18] with Swami Abhedananda, who was here in the Vedanta Society of New York.

[11:22] In fact, there's a description of, there was

[11:26] one gentleman, I forget his name.

[11:28] He was the pioneer of Sanskrit studies at Harvard University.

[11:31] He was there.

[11:33] Josiah Royce was there.

[11:35] Swami Abhedananda was there.

[11:37] And William James was there.

[11:38] William James is the pioneer of psychology at Harvard University.

[11:41] And there's a description of a dinner party in Boston

[11:45] at the residence of William James, where the three of them, the Sanskritist,

[11:50] Josiah Royce and Abhedananda, they ganged up on poor William James.

[11:54] Because William James, as you know, was a pluralist.

[11:56] So he loved these discussions, but he was not convinced of non duality.

[12:01] So he staunchly took the pluralist position.

[12:03] And these three, Charles Landman, I remember now, Charles Landman was

[12:07] the founder of Sanskrit studies at Harvard University.

[12:12] Charles Landman, Swami Abhedananda and Josiah Royce on one side

[12:15] and William James on the other side.

[12:17] Three hours they debated.

[12:20] I don't know what the result of the debate was.

[12:22] But anyway, it was, that's recorded.

[12:26] This Josiah Royce was the tutor for T.S. Eliot.

[12:29] And T.S. Eliot writes in, when he's studying Indian philosophy,

[12:32] this is in 1920s, I think, he writes in the margins of his notebooks,

[12:36] these ancient Indian thinkers, all those centuries ago, had taken up

[12:42] the issues which exercise our brightest minds

[12:45] today and dispose them off.

[12:47] And he says centuries ago, compared to them, the brightest minds

[12:51] we have today are like children.

[12:54] So what a grand view.

[12:57] The ultimate reality is one and it is the answer to our greatest questions

[13:03] about reality, knowledge and the value of the point of life.

[13:08] The ontological, axiological and epistemological questions.

[13:13] But Vedanta doesn't stop there.

[13:16] It goes even further, even more dramatic.

[13:20] What is this Brahman?

[13:22] What is this ultimate reality?

[13:24] This Sat Chit Ananda you're talking about, where is it?

[13:27] Is it a grand metaphysical abstraction or does it really exist?

[13:33] And where does it exist?

[13:36] Remember, it's a vital question because it answers

[13:38] the greatest questions of philosophy.

[13:41] Also, it answers the question of what we want,

[13:44] what we seek to achieve in life, Ananda.

[13:46] So it's very important for us to know that.

[13:48] Where is this thing?

[13:50] What is it?

[13:51] How do we find it?

[13:53] And Vedanta gives an even more dramatic answer, the climax.

[13:56] It says it's you. Tat Tvam Asi.

[13:59] Vedanta reaches its climax by saying that ultimate reality is you.

[14:04] It grounds it in the most ordinary of our experiences,

[14:08] our experience of ourselves.

[14:11] It is you.

[14:13] All of Vedanta can be summarised in this short teaching, this sentence.

[14:20] That thou art. Tat Tvam Asi.

[14:21] You are that.

[14:23] I am Brahman.

[14:24] Aham Brahmasmi.

[14:28] We shall look into our ordinary experience of ourselves and see what we can find.

[14:36] What are we seeking to do?

[14:37] We're seeking to discover the infinite.

[14:40] Where?

[14:40] Right here.

[14:41] Right in our experience of life itself, of living.

[14:47] This exploration we will do, a clarification,

[14:52] the extraordinary clarification of ordinary experience.

[14:56] Actually, if you look at the Upanishads, in Mandukya Upanishad, the Upanishad

[15:01] which is famous for waking, dreaming, sleeping, where do you discover Turiyam?

[15:05] The ultimate reality is called the Turiyam, the fourth.

[15:08] Where do you discover it?

[15:10] In waking, dreaming, sleeping, ordinary experience.

[15:14] Look at the Taittiriya Upanishad where you're seeking the same reality.

[15:19] Where do you discover it?

[15:20] In this psychophysical system of the human being.

[15:23] You know, the enquiry into the five sheaths

[15:26] of our psychophysical existence, the physical, the physiological,

[15:31] the mental, the intellectual, the causal.

[15:34] Annamaya, Pranamaya, Manomaya, Vijnanamaya, Anandamaya.

[15:38] This is all ordinary experience.

[15:39] There's nothing mystical about it.

[15:42] And always, the Upanishads, all that time ago, they tell us,

[15:47] take a look at life right now.

[15:51] Suppose it doesn't work, there are other ways.

[15:54] We will tell you, there are other ways.

[15:55] You can take the scenic route.

[15:58] But why take the scenic route when the direct path is available,

[16:01] the royal path is available to us?

[16:04] We have taken surface roads so long that the freeways have fallen into disuse.

[16:08] So this is the freeway, the highway, the direct path.

[16:12] Take a look at that and it's right here and now.

[16:15] That's what we'll try to do.

[16:16] And this extraordinary clarification of ordinary experience.

[16:21] What do we find?

[16:25] Remember, whatever I'm going to say now, from now on, the claim is,

[16:31] I'm speaking about something we are already experiencing.

[16:33] Don't postpone it by saying, all right, that's wonderful to know.

[16:37] One day, if God is gracious, I will have that amazing, ecstatic,

[16:42] transcendent experience.

[16:43] Then I will know.

[16:44] No, no, no.

[16:45] Vedanta is saying that you have it now.

[16:48] The experience is here right now.

[16:50] We are just not seeing it.

[16:52] All we require is this extraordinary clarification.

[16:55] That's what we're going to try to attempt to do over

[16:58] the next 40 minutes or so.

[17:00] Extraordinary clarification.

[17:01] I'll try to finish within time today.

[17:03] I had this experience once walking in Central Park.

[17:06] Somebody on a bike stopped in front of me and said, hey, you're the guy

[17:10] with the really long talks on YouTube.

[17:13] And I said, guilty as charged.

[17:22] The first thing that we discover about ourselves is

[17:26] that you can't doubt yourself.

[17:28] I don't mean in a psychological sense.

[17:30] Of course, we can doubt ourselves.

[17:31] We can second guess ourselves.

[17:32] But our own existence is indubitable.

[17:36] The French mathematician, philosopher, Descartes, he set out on what is called

[17:41] the project of global skepticism to doubt whatever could be doubted.

[17:45] To find out the one thing you can never doubt.

[17:47] The rock bottom on which you can rebuild knowledge.

[17:50] That was his, 300 years ago, his project.

[17:53] And he found you could doubt everything that you experience.

[17:57] But you can't doubt the experience.

[18:00] I can doubt everything in the world.

[18:03] You might say, why?

[18:04] Why would you doubt all of this?

[18:06] Generally, we wouldn't.

[18:07] But because we are not philosophers, but philosophers we would doubt.

[18:10] Philosophers are very meticulous.

[18:12] They would carefully say, can this be false?

[18:15] What we are experiencing right now?

[18:16] It could be.

[18:17] Could be a dream.

[18:19] Could be the Matrix movie.

[18:20] There's also another movie, the Inception movie.

[18:23] Like a dream.

[18:24] So it could be a dream.

[18:25] Who knows?

[18:25] How do you know it's not a dream?

[18:28] How do you know that we are not hallucinating?

[18:30] It could be.

[18:31] The next moment we could wake up and thought,

[18:33] oh, I thought I was in the Vedanta society listening to a talk,

[18:36] but apparently I overslept.

[18:37] I'm in my bed now.

[18:39] How do you know?

[18:40] Zhuang Zhou, the philosopher, Chinese philosopher, Taoist, he was taking

[18:45] a nap under a tree and he woke up.

[18:47] He said, I was dreaming I was a butterfly.

[18:50] And he woke up.

[18:50] And then he thought, am I a philosopher who was dreaming that he was a butterfly

[18:56] or am I a butterfly who is now dreaming that he's a philosopher?

[18:59] Which is true?

[19:00] Is the dream true or is this waking true?

[19:03] So I think only philosophers get time off to nap.

[19:08] And that too, ancient Chinese philosophers,

[19:10] not modern philosophers in Ivy League.

[19:12] They are too much under, you know, publish or perish.

[19:14] They'll be doing assignments and publishing papers

[19:18] and a perpetual race with AI.

[19:22] The ancient Chinese philosopher could take the nap, nap under it, afternoon nap

[19:27] under a tree and wonder whether he was a butterfly

[19:29] dreaming that he's a philosopher.

[19:31] How do you know?

[19:33] Descartes didn't have the Matrix movie, but he thought of

[19:38] something very sophisticated.

[19:39] He thought, suppose there's a demon, he called it a malign demon, who projects

[19:44] this world, who gets into my head and projects this world for me.

[19:46] How would I know that this world really exists?

[19:48] And even my body exists, how do I know?

[19:50] I'm just seeing it.

[19:51] It could be a projection.

[19:53] But one thing he said, his famous cogito ergo sum,

[19:56] that I think therefore I exist.

[19:59] Even if I doubt, even if I doubt my own existence, do I exist?

[20:02] I exist.

[20:03] Because just now I doubted it.

[20:04] That cannot be doubted.

[20:06] Even the doubt has to be there.

[20:08] If the doubt is there, the doubter is there.

[20:10] There is at least something that is experiencing a doubt.

[20:13] So one's own existence cannot be denied.

[20:16] About 800 years before Descartes, the Advaitins were already writing,

[20:21] nobody ever thinks I do not exist.

[20:24] But everybody has the experience I exist.

[20:27] So this is the first thing we discover about ourselves.

[20:31] What are we doing?

[20:32] We are clarifying our own experience.

[20:35] The first thing we discover, which cannot be doubted,

[20:39] which is absolutely firm.

[20:40] Nobody really doubts it.

[20:42] You can doubt the existence of God.

[20:43] You can be an agnostic, you can be an atheist,

[20:45] you can be a skeptic.

[20:48] But you cannot doubt your own existence.

[20:52] So there's an American word, meh?

[20:56] M-E-H

[20:56] He said, yeah, Swami, but you're saying something very ordinary.

[21:01] Why make such a big fuss about it?

[21:03] Yeah, I exist.

[21:03] Whoever said I didn't exist, I exist.

[21:05] But that's the problem really.

[21:06] I exist.

[21:07] But my existence is surrounded by problems.

[21:10] I have financial, my absolutely sure existence,

[21:13] thank you very much for nothing, is surrounded by financial problems,

[21:17] relationship problems, health problems, insurance problems, weather problems.

[21:24] All of these problems are there.

[21:26] Because I exist, thank you very much.

[21:28] Now you have proved my certain existence and now I have so many problems now.

[21:32] Wait, extraordinary clarification has just begun.

[21:36] I promise to show you, I promise to show you at the end

[21:39] of this clarification, you don't have these problems.

[21:43] That's a big promise, Swami.

[21:45] Let's see if you can deliver.

[21:46] Let's see.

[21:49] This extraordinary clarification gives us the first result

[21:53] that I do exist, indubitably so.

[21:56] In Sanskrit there is a word, asamdigdham, which means irrefutable, indubitable.

[22:04] You can't doubt it.

[22:06] What else?

[22:09] Descartes says there in his meditation, actually it's in another tract, he says,

[22:16] I am absolutely certain that I exist.

[22:20] But about that absolutely certain existence

[22:22] I don't know anything.

[22:24] He says, his exact words translated, it is passing strange that what

[22:31] I know so much about, I can never be sure of it.

[22:34] And what I am sure of, I don't know anything about it.

[22:38] What does he know so much about?

[22:39] All the things he knows, 300 years ago, about science

[22:43] and mathematics and all of that.

[22:46] And he was right.

[22:47] He says, I can never be sure of it, about the world, because a lot of what

[22:50] he knew has been proved to be wrong.

[22:53] Except certain things, but many things have been revised.

[22:56] That's the nature of science.

[22:57] Science gets revised.

[22:59] And he says, what I am absolutely sure about, I exist.

[23:02] And then you ask, okay, that you who exists, absolutely sure, what's it?

[23:07] What do you know about it?

[23:08] I know nothing about it.

[23:10] How strange.

[23:10] I am sure that I exist, but I can't say anything more about it.

[23:13] I can say a lot about this universe, but I am not sure of any of it.

[23:19] Now, Descartes would be delighted with what we are doing, this project

[23:22] of extraordinary clarification, because we are going to deliver

[23:25] maybe a dozen results to him, which he did not know.

[23:29] But he would be delighted to discover all this.

[23:32] What do we know about this absolutely sure existence?

[23:36] And remember, all of this is ordinary experience.

[23:38] I am not going to say anything.

[23:39] I am going to say extraordinary things, but ground it in ordinary experience.

[23:42] In fact, if you doubt it, take a look and see, is it true?

[23:46] Almost all of what I will say, you can immediately verify right now.

[23:49] In fact, all of what I can say can be immediately verified

[23:52] right now, but that will require, the last part of it I will come,

[23:55] that will require you to be enlightened.

[23:57] But the enlightened person would also say, yeah, check, that's true.

[24:01] For the rest of us, we might go, but most of it we will say, yes,

[24:06] I never thought of it that way.

[24:08] What's the first of these amazing discoveries?

[24:11] Is that you are seeing.

[24:13] We are seeing.

[24:15] And we see so many things.

[24:18] You see flowers, you see the Swami, you see the curtains

[24:21] and you see the shrine, the altar.

[24:24] Notice one thing, the flowers and the Swami and the curtains

[24:27] and the altar, they are all different things.

[24:30] And yet it is you who is seeing it.

[24:32] There is one common consciousness or awareness

[24:35] to which different objects are appearing.

[24:38] That's what we call seeing.

[24:39] Seeing with the eyes, we are seeing different colors, different shapes.

[24:44] The objects keep changing, but the consciousness or the awareness,

[24:48] I'm using the words consciousness, awareness interchangeably,

[24:51] it doesn't matter.

[24:53] None of them precisely capture the Sanskrit chit, chaitanya,

[24:58] so you can use consciousness, awareness interchangeably.

[25:01] It is that one awareness to which these various objects are appearing.

[25:06] In fact, not only these objects are appearing, but we hear,

[25:12] you are hearing right now, you heard music earlier, now we are hearing words,

[25:15] language, a talk.

[25:19] It is the same awareness.

[25:20] Imagine, what I'm trying to point out here is

[25:23] so utterly simple that we overlook it.

[25:26] Imagine the amazing nature of it.

[25:28] Seeing something, look at this experience of seeing, color and shape and depth

[25:33] and all of this, we are seeing.

[25:35] And close your eyes and listen.

[25:38] Listening and seeing are so different from each other.

[25:42] How does it feel to see and how does it feel to listen?

[25:45] So different.

[25:47] And yet, yet, we have no doubt, both of them are being experienced by

[25:52] the same awareness.

[25:54] The objects are different.

[25:55] Here the objects are colors and shapes and people and all that.

[25:58] In listening the objects are sound, music and speech and all.

[26:02] Very different objects, but they're all experienced by

[26:06] the same awareness, same consciousness.

[26:11] And so it is true of flavor.

[26:13] When we eat, I am being very detailed here, when we eat,

[26:19] but I'm just trying to bring out the amazing nature

[26:21] of experience, our daily experience.

[26:25] Christophe Koch wrote a book about it.

[26:27] He called it the feeling of life itself.

[26:30] Michael Pollan's best-selling book right now and Swami is reading it

[26:34] now, A World Appears.

[26:37] It's called A World Appears.

[26:38] What does he say?

[26:39] Close your eyes and open them.

[26:42] What happened?

[26:43] A world appeared before us.

[26:46] You say, so?

[26:47] But isn't it miraculous?

[26:50] So this magical display appears before us.

[26:53] How?

[26:54] How?

[26:56] You can guarantee it when you have the camera which is recording.

[26:59] To the camera there is no experience of the world

[27:01] appearing before us, before the camera.

[27:03] It's recording the same thing.

[27:05] But we have that experience.

[27:07] Why?

[27:08] Because of awareness, because of consciousness and flavor

[27:12] and taste and smell, odors and fragrances.

[27:17] Touch, hard and soft, painful and sharp, hot and cold, all of these experiences

[27:25] are coming before us.

[27:27] So all the sensory experiences, seeing, hearing, smelling, tasting,

[27:31] touching, all of this amazing display.

[27:37] Do you want to have a glass of water?

[27:39] Does anybody have water?

[27:43] You've got?

[27:43] It's there.

[27:44] Sit, sit.

[27:44] It's there.

[27:46] Yes.

[27:50] That's all right.

[27:51] Come, come, come.

[27:53] There's space here.

[27:58] A world appears to us or in Christof Koch's, the title of the book,

[28:03] The feeling of life itself.

[28:07] All of this is mediated by consciousness.

[28:10] You can reduce it to an equation, a very general kind of equation.

[28:16] Consciousness plus object is equal to experience.

[28:20] Consciousness plus object is equal to experience.

[28:23] What are the objects?

[28:24] Colors, shapes, sounds, tastes, smells, the objects which come to our senses.

[28:31] These are objects.

[28:32] Consciousness plus object is equal to experience.

[28:35] That is a world appears before us, the feeling of life itself.

[28:40] And it doesn't end there.

[28:43] It doesn't end there.

[28:44] It goes on.

[28:45] All our activities, when I'm speaking, when I'm walking, when you're working,

[28:50] when you're playing, in all those experiences,

[28:54] they're all conscious experiences.

[28:56] So there's this one light which gives us the experience of seeing, hearing,

[29:01] smelling, tasting, touching.

[29:03] It is the same light of awareness, of consciousness, which gives us

[29:08] the experience of our physical activities, working, playing, talking, walking,

[29:14] all of that, our motor activities.

[29:18] And then we all of us have an inner world, a first person world.

[29:21] Right now, we have thoughts, we have memories, we have desires,

[29:26] we have feelings, we have a sense of ego, I.

[29:30] All of that internally right now is also being revealed by the same awareness,

[29:35] by the same consciousness.

[29:40] It is utterly ordinary.

[29:42] That's what our life is.

[29:43] And yet, if you reflect upon it, it's extraordinary.

[29:48] This is like a magical display going on.

[29:52] David Chalmers calls it the movie which is continuously playing inside you.

[29:55] Our series of experiences we are having.

[29:58] In fact, all our dreaming experiences and even the blankness of deep sleep

[30:06] is lit up by this one awareness.

[30:10] About deep sleep, one might say, but there's

[30:12] no awareness there, lights out.

[30:14] No, the Vedantic understanding, reframing of our deep sleep experience

[30:18] is thus, that suppose you remove all the objects

[30:22] of experience, what will it be like?

[30:24] It will be deep sleep.

[30:26] Suppose I don't see anything, hear anything,

[30:28] smell anything, taste, touch.

[30:30] I don't think about anything, I don't remember anything,

[30:33] I don't even feel I, I don't do anything, I'm utterly still.

[30:36] All physical sensation has left, all mentation has stopped,

[30:40] all emotions have settled down.

[30:44] Everything's blank.

[30:46] Deep sleep.

[30:50] And yet, consciousness is there, illumining what?

[30:52] Nothing, just the absence of objects.

[30:54] I remember a very nice experience I had just a couple of weeks ago,

[30:58] I was in New Zealand, outside Auckland, one of the most beautiful countries

[31:02] in the world.

[31:03] Outside Auckland, amazingly beautiful place.

[31:07] At night, we were working in the hall which was being set up

[31:12] for the talk next day.

[31:14] Dark night, it's far away from the city, so it's completely dark

[31:18] and vast open pastures, low-lying hills, very beautiful,

[31:22] but all hidden in darkness.

[31:24] And up there in the sky, I saw what seemed to be shining wisps of cloud

[31:30] from this horizon to that, turned out to be the Milky Way.

[31:34] And I've never seen the Milky Way so bright and so extensive, you know.

[31:39] I was reminded of one of the phrases used by Isaac Asimov,

[31:42] the famous science fiction writer.

[31:45] He says, the stars like dust.

[31:48] Imagine the stars like that little band of dust across the sky.

[31:52] There are millions of stars there.

[31:55] Now, I was walking with somebody and I, on my mobile phone, you know,

[32:00] you have a flashlight, you can switch it on.

[32:02] And I pointed it upwards, nothing, it's dark, you can't see anything.

[32:06] But the moment I put my hand in front of the light, like this, my hand blazed up

[32:13] in white light from the flashlight.

[32:16] So this is like deep sleep.

[32:18] It looks like there's no light there, but the moment an object

[32:20] comes in front, look at what happens.

[32:22] It blazes up with light.

[32:26] Even deep sleep, the absence of all objects, is illumined by

[32:30] awareness, by consciousness.

[32:33] All of this to say is we make an amazing discovery that

[32:37] my indubitable existence is also continuously consciousness.

[32:45] I will not even say it's a conscious existence

[32:47] because in deep sleep, we apparently lose consciousness.

[32:49] But consciousness is there all the time.

[32:53] It is what makes the experience of life possible.

[32:57] Ordinary experience, we are mining ordinary experience.

[33:00] Not only I am there, absolutely certain, but all ordinary experience is mediated,

[33:06] is made possible by this constant light of awareness.

[33:11] That's why we have ordinary experience.

[33:14] Indeed, as a footnote, if we are one day fortunate enough to have

[33:18] extraordinary experiences, mystical experiences, experiences of God

[33:23] and the divine, it will still be this same consciousness

[33:27] which will experience that.

[33:30] Advaita Vedanta is interested not in the objects of our experience,

[33:34] but in the experiencing consciousness.

[33:37] It's an exploration of consciousness, of awareness.

[33:40] Vedanta has a word for this, what I just said, sakshi,

[33:45] which means witness consciousness.

[33:48] Not a person who's sitting and witnessing something.

[33:50] Think of it as a light which illumines whatever comes in front of it.

[33:53] And if nothing comes in front of it, that nothing itself is revealed.

[33:57] So this is God's sakshi, witness consciousness.

[34:01] This is one more discovery we have made.

[34:03] Again, ordinary experience, all the time.

[34:07] Try to dispute it.

[34:09] You know, all the things which I'll say today, try to dispute it.

[34:12] You can.

[34:13] If you dispute it, if you debate with it, you'll come up with philosophy.

[34:17] You'll come up with various schools of philosophy.

[34:19] You'll come up with the history of Indian philosophy.

[34:22] But this is at the very source, at the beginning, the original vision

[34:26] of the Vedic seers, the rishis.

[34:28] Going on, moving on.

[34:31] What else can we discover?

[34:33] This consciousness is always there.

[34:37] This consciousness, which illumines all our experiences, is always there.

[34:42] It's gapless.

[34:44] In Sanskrit, nirantara.

[34:46] There's no break in consciousness.

[34:48] If consciousness is there in deep sleep, in the sense in which we are speaking

[34:52] about, if it's there in deep sleep, if deep sleep is defined or redefined,

[34:57] reframed as an illumination of the absence of objects, the moment you have

[35:01] the illumination of the absence of objects, there is illumination.

[35:04] So there is consciousness.

[35:05] The same idea would be extended to general anesthesia.

[35:10] So if you say that this, if we claim that this consciousness is present

[35:13] in deep sleep or general anesthesia also, because after all, in whose experience,

[35:18] who claims I experienced anesthesia?

[35:21] The moment you say I experienced anesthesia, the moment

[35:24] we say I was deeply asleep, I did not know anything,

[35:28] how did you know that even?

[35:30] If consciousness was not there, we would have said I was awake,

[35:33] I fell asleep and dreamt, I'm awake, I'm awake again.

[35:35] I would never claim that there was a period of nothing, that there was

[35:38] a period of nothing, even that it's a very interesting way of looking at it.

[35:43] So this consciousness is always there, gapless.

[35:48] A lot of debates are there.

[35:50] The Buddhist mind only school, the momentary consciousness school.

[35:55] They say no, no, no, there are gaps in consciousness.

[35:58] In fact, the Buddhist idea is of that particular school, Vijnanavada,

[36:02] is that there are flashes of consciousness.

[36:05] The momentary flashes of consciousness in Sanskrit, a stream

[36:11] of momentary flashes of consciousness.

[36:13] Consciousness, switch off consciousness, switch off consciousness,

[36:16] switch off, extremely fast.

[36:18] That's why they say you think it's one consciousness, but it isn't.

[36:22] Moment to moment it appears and disappears.

[36:25] What's our reply to that?

[36:27] There's an example of the dialectics which went on

[36:29] about 1600 years ago in India.

[36:34] The reply would be, if it's discrete, if there are gaps in consciousness,

[36:40] are the gaps known or unknown?

[36:43] If the gaps are known, then there's consciousness there.

[36:46] To know something, to experience something,

[36:47] there must be consciousness.

[36:48] So it's no longer discrete, it must be one consciousness.

[36:51] If you say the gaps are unknown, there are gaps in consciousness,

[36:54] but we can't know them at all.

[36:56] If you can't know them at all, in principle it can be

[36:58] ever unknown and unknowable.

[37:00] Why speak of it?

[37:02] Where does the point arise?

[37:03] Why would you even talk about it?

[37:05] This is a gapless consciousness.

[37:08] In Sanskrit, nirantara, gapless.

[37:14] I like these words, they help me to remember the whole argument.

[37:18] Another reason I like these words, most of these words are names of monks.

[37:23] That's how the monks are named.

[37:24] Various aspects of ultimate consciousness.

[37:27] We know a Swami Nirantaranandaji who was our teacher.

[37:30] So, the one whose bliss is in gapless consciousness.

[37:37] Without a gap.

[37:41] Then what else can we find out?

[37:44] Well, there can be things without a gap.

[37:46] For example, the Hudson is flowing continuously.

[37:48] There's no gap in it, but it's a continuous flow, a stream.

[37:53] There's water, you know, you say you can never bathe in

[37:55] the same river twice.

[37:56] The water is continuously flowing.

[37:58] So, isn't consciousness like that?

[38:00] We even have, in fact it's an American school of English literature,

[38:03] stream of consciousness.

[38:05] From a Vedantic perspective, that's a misnomer.

[38:09] A misnomer.

[38:10] When you say stream of consciousness, what do you mean?

[38:12] You mean thoughts, emotions, ideas, memories, our reflections.

[38:17] That's going on in the mind.

[38:18] If you carefully attend to it, you can identify all of that

[38:21] and you can put it in writing.

[38:23] That became stream of consciousness literature.

[38:25] But Vedanta would say, wait, wait a minute.

[38:28] If you have a series of ideas and thoughts and perceptions, sensations, reflections,

[38:35] those are all objects being lit up in that one gapless consciousness.

[38:42] They're objects.

[38:43] If you are aware of the thoughts, if you are aware

[38:45] of the sensations, they must be objects.

[38:48] An object is something that you are aware of.

[38:49] It is not awareness.

[38:51] Awareness reveals that object.

[38:53] So, you can see the stream which stream of consciousness talks

[38:56] about is not consciousness.

[38:59] It's a stream of objects flowing in consciousness.

[39:02] Consciousness is illumining all of that.

[39:05] This was demonstrated to us.

[39:07] I was in Venice last year.

[39:09] We had a, one day was a writing workshop.

[39:11] It was a gathering of people debating consciousness, scientists,

[39:15] neuroscientists, quantum theorists, AI people, one monk.

[39:20] And one day there was a writing workshop by one

[39:25] of the very famous science fiction writer who was also there.

[39:28] So, he told us, this morning when you came to this conference hall,

[39:33] you know, you came by boat or gondola or something.

[39:36] You actually don't take a gondola to work.

[39:38] There you take, it's more like a bus.

[39:39] Gondola is for relaxation.

[39:42] So, there is the equivalent of a bus.

[39:46] It's a launch actually.

[39:47] So, you take that.

[39:50] Just give us an account of what you saw, heard, smelt, tasted.

[39:57] Not thoughts.

[39:58] Don't tell us what you thought.

[39:59] Write it down from your room to here.

[40:03] What are the things you saw?

[40:05] What did you hear?

[40:06] What were the impressions you got?

[40:08] Sensory description.

[40:10] We wrote it down.

[40:12] And then he said, after finishing that, now add to it what did you think about it?

[40:21] Add to it what did you feel about it?

[40:25] So, our feelings, emotions, what did those smells, what did those sights,

[40:30] the colours, the shapes, what we saw.

[40:32] The first account was just the sensory report.

[40:35] The second account was the sensory report with an overlay

[40:38] of our emotional reactions.

[40:40] I liked it.

[40:42] I wanted that cup of Italian coffee which I smelt.

[40:46] So, I like it.

[40:47] I want it.

[40:48] This made me feel anxious or the boat is a little late.

[40:54] Will I be late to the workshop?

[40:55] That anxiety came.

[40:56] So, all those things you added.

[40:59] Then third time you write it again, the same thing.

[41:02] The description of your journey from your room to this place.

[41:04] Now you add your reflections on it.

[41:07] What are you thinking about?

[41:08] How are you ruminating?

[41:10] What's going on in your mind?

[41:11] Could be nothing to do with what you are seeing actually.

[41:14] Now it shows you these are all stream of consciousness.

[41:17] They are all being illumined by one consciousness

[41:20] which is not part of the stream.

[41:23] So, this is called nirvikara, changeless.

[41:29] The objects keep changing.

[41:31] There is no change in consciousness.

[41:34] It is a big thing to reflect upon because there's in the literature

[41:38] we always talk about transformation of consciousness, a change

[41:42] in consciousness, a new state of consciousness.

[41:45] Now this way of thinking which we are introducing now,

[41:47] this extraordinary clarification shows us none of that is possible.

[41:52] What you are talking about when you are talking about stream

[41:54] of consciousness, change of consciousness, transformation of consciousness,

[41:58] you are talking about a transformation in the mind, in the intellect,

[42:01] in the emotions, in our sensory perceptions,

[42:03] in our behavior, in our language.

[42:05] You are talking about the contents of consciousness,

[42:08] not of consciousness itself.

[42:11] Notice what's going on.

[42:13] We are not meddling with our experience.

[42:14] We are clarifying.

[42:15] We are offering an extraordinary clarification,

[42:18] changing our view about what's going on here.

[42:21] And this view, consciousness doesn't change.

[42:25] It's the object which changes.

[42:27] Logically also, you can use the same kind of logic to prove

[42:29] that consciousness does not and cannot change.

[42:32] The same question can be asked.

[42:34] If consciousness changed, did you experience

[42:37] the change in consciousness?

[42:39] If you say you did, then it was a change in the object, not in consciousness.

[42:43] Because whatever you experience is an object.

[42:45] And if you say no, no, there's a change in consciousness

[42:47] but we cannot experience it, then why speak about it?

[42:51] So consciousness is not only without a gap, but it doesn't flow.

[42:56] It shines.

[42:57] It is unchanging.

[42:58] This unchanging nature, changeless nature of consciousness is called Nirvikaara

[43:03] in Sanskrit, without modification.

[43:07] Objects undergo modification.

[43:09] Consciousness does not undergo modification.

[43:11] Consciousness illumines, it shines.

[43:14] Very much like the light metaphor.

[43:17] I mean, stuff is going on in this room.

[43:19] People come and go, things are arranged and rearranged, but the light

[43:23] reveals whatever is going on.

[43:24] Light is not arranged or rearranged.

[43:26] Light is not going on in this room, generally speaking.

[43:29] What else can we find out?

[43:32] I hope we're all moving together.

[43:34] I can assure you I'm enjoying it and Descartes would have enjoyed it

[43:37] thoroughly.

[43:38] He would have said, oh, I'm assured.

[43:41] This is great, I never thought about it.

[43:45] What else can we find out?

[43:47] Another thing we find out is very interesting.

[43:50] Nothing sticks to consciousness.

[43:52] Consciousness is non-stick.

[43:54] You're non-stick cooking there?

[43:57] Consciousness is the ultimate non-stick.

[44:00] Nothing sticks to it.

[44:02] People come and go, events happen, life flows by,

[44:05] it doesn't stick to consciousness.

[44:07] It may stick to your memory a little bit, but not to consciousness.

[44:12] Think about it.

[44:13] That's the very nature of knowledge.

[44:15] Just ordinary, without going into metaphysics and all that,

[44:17] just ordinary knowledge itself, ordinary perception itself.

[44:20] We are looking at the universe, at the world.

[44:23] What sticks to your eyes?

[44:25] Which color, which person, which shape, which place, what we have seen,

[44:30] what has stuck to our eyes, what is it that we are always seeing?

[44:33] Nothing.

[44:33] It just flows.

[44:35] What sound, what music, what noise is sticking to your ears?

[44:39] Nothing.

[44:41] What flavor to your tongue, what order to your nose?

[44:44] Nothing.

[44:44] It just comes and goes.

[44:47] What thought, what emotion, what idea, what memory is sticking to your mind?

[44:55] Actually nothing.

[44:56] Even the most repetitive, the most repetitive, the most OCD kind

[45:01] of behavior pattern, that also comes and goes.

[45:04] If you fall asleep, in your dreams those things are not there.

[45:07] Even if they invade your dreams, when you go into

[45:09] deep sleep, nothing is there.

[45:12] So nothing sticks to senses, to our senses.

[45:18] Nothing sticks to our mind also.

[45:19] Forget consciousness.

[45:20] Nothing sticks to consciousness.

[45:23] The objects which we experience in consciousness, arise,

[45:27] play around for a little while, subside.

[45:30] Consciousness is exactly the same, untouched, non-stick.

[45:36] Consciousness is non-stick.

[45:38] They are worth meditating upon.

[45:39] These are the subjects of meditation in Vedanta.

[45:43] Consciousness as asanga, non-stick, unattached.

[45:47] Effortlessly so.

[45:48] You don't have to be detached.

[45:50] You have no choice in the matter.

[45:52] Consciousness is detached.

[45:53] Your nature as consciousness is detached.

[45:56] All the time, by definition, by construction, by logic,

[46:00] by the sheer logic of it, what's going on here.

[46:03] It's detached.

[46:04] Try to be attached, you can't.

[46:07] Even the trying is an effort of the mind which will come and go.

[46:11] Consciousness will remain ever the same.

[46:14] Asanga, non-stick.

[46:16] Again, names of monks.

[46:19] Asanga itself was the name of a Buddhist monk, about 1400 years ago.

[46:23] One of the greatest Buddhist philosophers.

[46:25] Asanga, Vasubandhu, Asanga.

[46:28] Non-stick.

[46:29] What else?

[46:33] Consciousness is ever the same.

[46:36] This is another remarkable thing, which is

[46:38] utterly alien to our way of thinking.

[46:42] Consciousness is not affected by what it experiences.

[46:48] Rich, wonderful experiences, good experiences do not improve or enrich.

[46:53] They can improve your mind.

[46:55] They can enrich your memories.

[46:56] They can change your personality.

[46:58] Consciousness, the one which reveals those improvements by itself

[47:01] is not improved or enriched or changed.

[47:05] That which is unchanging, that which is non-stick,

[47:08] how can it be improved by anything that it experiences?

[47:11] It cannot be degraded, damaged by what it experiences,

[47:15] no matter how horrible the experience.

[47:18] In every experience, consciousness is just the same.

[47:22] Bare awareness.

[47:24] The ever same, never different nature of consciousness.

[47:27] In Sanskrit, this is called Samaha.

[47:31] Samaha means even, same.

[47:36] Samah rasa, of same taste.

[47:38] Like the ocean, taste it at the top, salty.

[47:40] Taste it in the middle, salty.

[47:41] Taste it at the bottom, salty.

[47:46] I was saying these things in Brisbane a couple of weeks ago

[47:51] and they are drilling for oil outside.

[47:54] They said, taste it in the top.

[47:55] I said, Swami, no.

[47:56] You taste it at the top, it's oily.

[48:00] But it stays the same.

[48:01] Consciousness is ever of same taste, no different.

[48:05] If you say, no, it is different, then the difference must be in the mind

[48:09] or in the body or somewhere else.

[48:10] An object, that's why you experienced it.

[48:13] Consciousness is always the same, never different.

[48:17] Samaha.

[48:19] Put these together.

[48:20] That consciousness is always there, never absent, gapless.

[48:24] That consciousness is never changing.

[48:27] Consciousness is non-stick.

[48:28] Consciousness is ever the same, never different.

[48:31] Put them all together and we get an amazing result.

[48:34] Consciousness is untraumatizable.

[48:38] In Sanskrit, avyayaha, the undecaying.

[48:41] Stunning result.

[48:44] Because the first thing we say about ourselves is, I suffer.

[48:49] I am traumatized.

[48:51] And here is the claim that, no, you're not traumatized.

[48:54] Not only that, you cannot be.

[48:57] But we are not talking about the body.

[48:59] The body can have trauma.

[49:00] It does have trauma from injury, from disease.

[49:04] The mind has trauma from terrible experiences in life.

[49:09] The mind gets traumatized.

[49:10] The personality gets mangled.

[49:13] It does get affected.

[49:15] But what we are talking about is consciousness, which reveals

[49:18] all this trauma in itself, is not only not traumatized,

[49:21] cannot be traumatized.

[49:26] It is this indubitable existence, which is the light of our lives,

[49:33] which reveals all of our lives, which is always there, never not there,

[49:38] which is never changingly there, which is non-stick,

[49:43] which is ever the same.

[49:45] It cannot be traumatized.

[49:49] Yesterday, someone sent me something from Dostoevsky.

[49:53] He said, how Vedantic, Swami.

[49:56] Take a look at this.

[49:58] I'll read it out to you.

[50:01] This young man said, very Vedantic theme in an unexpected place.

[50:06] Dostoevsky writes, and I seem to have such strength in me now that I think

[50:13] I could stand anything, any suffering, only to be able to say

[50:18] and to repeat myself every moment, I exist.

[50:24] In thousands of agonies, I exist.

[50:29] I am tormented on the rack, but I exist.

[50:34] Do I sit alone on a pillar?

[50:36] A philosopher used to sit on top of a pillar.

[50:38] Do I sit alone on a pillar?

[50:40] I exist.

[50:42] I see the sun and if I don't see the sun, I know it's there.

[50:48] That existence is the sun and there is a whole life in that,

[50:53] in knowing that the sun is there.

[50:56] There's a whole life in there, knowing that this one indubitable light

[51:02] of our lives, which is always there, non-stick, unchangeably, ever the same,

[51:09] never traumatized, it's there.

[51:12] Dostoevsky says, it is a whole life in it.

[51:16] Moving on, Vedanta says, we are just beginning,

[51:18] we're getting started now.

[51:20] The engine is just warming up now.

[51:22] What else can we discover?

[51:25] I'm just imagining Descartes all those centuries ago

[51:27] with his notebook scribbling down.

[51:29] This is amazing, he would say.

[51:30] This is stunning.

[51:32] What else can we discover?

[51:35] This consciousness is the light of lights.

[51:38] Upanishads speak of it as the light of lights.

[51:41] In Sri Krishna in the Bhagavad Gita,[Sanskrit verse] he calls it, in the 13th chapter, he says,

[51:50] it is the light of lights forever beyond darkness.

[51:54] In the Katha Upanishad, Mundaka Upanishad, Shvetashvara Upanishad,

[51:57] the same lines come. Tameva bhantam anubhati sarvam…

[52:04] That alone shining, everything else shines.

[52:07] By its light, everything here is lit up.

[52:10] Consciousness alone shining, everything else shines.

[52:13] By the light of consciousness, everything here is lit up.

[52:17] Consciousness alone, everything else shines means,

[52:19] consciousness shining, the mind becomes aware.

[52:22] The mind becoming aware, we have these illumined senses of seeing, hearing,

[52:28] smelling, the modes of experience of life, what Christof Coe calls,

[52:32] the feeling of life itself.

[52:34] That shining, everything else shines.

[52:36] By its light, everything here is lit up.

[52:38] What do you mean by light of lights?

[52:40] The light metaphor is used in Upanishads.

[52:44] The idea of light there is interesting.

[52:48] Anything that reveals something which was in darkness is called a light.

[52:51] The room was in darkness, you switch on this light, the room is revealed.

[52:55] So what's the light?

[52:56] That which reveals everything else which was in darkness.

[52:59] But also, important, it reveals itself.

[53:03] To see this light, you don't have to switch on another light.

[53:06] To see the room in darkness, the people, the tables and chairs, you need a light.

[53:12] They will not show themselves.

[53:13] I'm talking in a very naive way here.

[53:15] So this room will not show itself unless you focus a light on it.

[53:18] But the light shows itself.

[53:20] It not only shows you the room, it shows itself.

[53:22] So light is something that reveals whatever else was in

[53:25] darkness and reveals itself too.

[53:27] But of course, this light is not the ultimate light.

[53:32] What's the light of this light?

[53:34] Our eyes.

[53:36] If you close your eyes, no light.

[53:40] Although if it's a strong enough light, if you look at it, you can feel

[53:42] the light even with the closed eyelids.

[53:45] I've told this earlier, but it's the right place to tell a funny story

[53:48] about my illumination, enlightenment.

[53:54] I became enlightened three days after I became a monk.

[53:58] You're laughing.

[53:59] That means you don't have confidence in me.

[54:04] What happened was, we had to meditate as new novices.

[54:08] We had to meditate early in the morning in the temple.

[54:11] And I also went to meditate in the temple.

[54:13] I was just three or four days, I'd just become a novice.

[54:17] And we had a Swami who was a very strict Swami who made sure

[54:20] that the novices would, monastic novices, would all get up

[54:23] early in the morning and go and meditate.

[54:26] So I was sitting there and suddenly I had this experience

[54:29] of light, tremendous light.

[54:31] And I thought, already?

[54:36] That was quick.

[54:38] I thought it might take me a few years to become enlightened,

[54:41] but three days, that's good.

[54:43] Then I opened my eyes and I saw that Swami with a flashlight.

[54:48] And he's saying, oh, you have come, good, go on meditating.

[54:50] And then he went to the, to see, check who else has come

[54:53] and who has not come.

[54:54] So he was checking on the monastic novices in the darkness in the temple.

[54:58] Maharaj knows which Swami I'm talking about.

[55:02] So, no, I'm very grateful to those strict Swamis

[55:07] because you look back and you are grateful to them because of their scoldings

[55:12] and their, you know, uncompromising discipline

[55:15] that we learned a little bit.

[55:17] Whatever we know, we learned because of them.

[55:19] So illumination, the light outside doesn't work without

[55:23] these lights, this light.

[55:24] Our senses are lights.

[55:28] Think about it.

[55:29] Without these eyes, I can't see the world.

[55:31] Without the ears, I can't hear music and speech.

[55:34] Without the nose, without the tongue, without the skin, enormously there is

[55:38] various domains of experience are not available to me.

[55:41] So the senses are lights.

[55:42] Remember what's the definition of a light?

[55:44] It reveals that which was in darkness.

[55:48] And in doing so, it reveals itself.

[55:50] By the fact, very fact that I see all of you, by that very fact,

[55:53] I not only see you, but I also know intuitively

[55:56] my eyes are working.

[55:57] I don't have to see my eyes, but I know my eyes are there

[56:00] and working because I see all of you.

[56:02] My ears are working because I can hear all this.

[56:05] So the senses are lights.

[56:09] Language is a light.

[56:12] Language is a great light.

[56:14] We are in the age of AI, large language models.

[56:17] What's the one light that these AIs have?

[56:19] Language.

[56:20] Human language.

[56:22] Language is a great light.

[56:23] They have only one light, the AIs.

[56:25] One eye, one light to know everything and that's human language.

[56:30] Language is a great light.

[56:32] The mind is a great light.

[56:34] Intellect, mind is a great light.

[56:36] It can inquire, synthesize information, come to new understanding.

[56:41] But what is the light of the mind, of language, of the senses?

[56:46] What shining all of these shine?

[56:49] Consciousness.

[56:50] Suppose consciousness were not there.

[56:51] Suppose the eyes are not there, what will happen?

[56:53] I won't see, that's all, but I'm still aware.

[56:55] Ears are not there, I won't hear, but I'm still there.

[56:59] Suppose I stop thinking, I'm aware of the blankness,

[57:01] I'm still there, aware of blankness.

[57:04] But suppose that eye, that awareness was not there, then nothing,

[57:09] nothing, just nothing at all.

[57:12] The eyes could be there, ears could be there,

[57:14] nothing, no experience at all.

[57:16] In Sanskrit there is a phrase, jagad andhya prasangah,

[57:20] the contingency of the darkness of the universe arises.

[57:23] The universe would be enshrouded in darkness if the consciousness

[57:26] was not there, that awareness was not there.

[57:28] Awareness, consciousness is the light of lights.

[57:32] Jyotisham apitad jyoti.

[57:35] Moving on, associated with this, how do we know that consciousness exists?

[57:41] Svaprakash, we are sure it exists, but how?

[57:45] How?

[57:46] How do I know you exist?

[57:48] Swami, you see us, don't you?

[57:49] Yeah, I see you, therefore I know you are here.

[57:52] I hear it, so I know somebody is speaking.

[57:55] And so by certain instruments we know the existence of other things.

[58:00] I can feel my body, so I know it's there.

[58:04] A paralyzed person might not be able to feel a limb,

[58:07] they wouldn't even know if it's there or been amputated.

[58:10] The phantom limb syndrome is also there.

[58:12] So it is through the body, the senses, through the mind that I know of

[58:17] the existence of other things and including the body

[58:20] and the senses and the mind.

[58:21] But consciousness, how do I know?

[58:23] I'm so sure of consciousness, but how do I know

[58:25] that consciousness is there?

[58:26] It's a subtle question, you're sure of it, but how?

[58:30] Did you see consciousness?

[58:32] Did you hear consciousness?

[58:33] Did you smell it?

[58:34] Did you taste it?

[58:34] Did you touch it?

[58:37] Did you have to think about it?

[58:38] Let me see, am I conscious or not?

[58:41] I'm conscious.

[58:42] No, we don't do that, ever.

[58:45] Consciousness is prior to everything, prior to all of these experiences

[58:50] of mental sensory experiences.

[58:52] Consciousness is prior to all of that.

[58:54] Awareness is prior to all of that.

[58:55] How do we know it?

[58:57] And Vedanta says there's only one possibility,

[59:00] it must be self-revealing, like a light.

[59:03] It reveals everything else and it reveals itself.

[59:06] The self-revealing nature of consciousness is called Swaprakasha,

[59:11] self-luminous.

[59:14] I won't go into it, I can already see I violated the time limit,

[59:19] we have one minute past 12, but I'm going to go on regardless

[59:22] because I have to finish the extraordinary clarification.

[59:27] Okay, we'll speed it up.

[59:28] You could go on and on, but I'll get into the really difficult part

[59:32] a little bit now.

[59:34] All of this was supposed to be easy, but whatever we did till now.

[59:39] What have we got till now?

[59:42] Indubitable.

[59:44] You cannot doubt consciousness.

[59:45] Asam digdam.

[59:47] Consciousness is the light of our lives.

[59:48] It reveals everything in our life.

[59:51] Sakshi, witness consciousness.

[59:53] It's always there, never not here.

[59:57] It's without any gaps.

[1:00:00] So, nirantara.

[1:00:01] And then, not only without gaps, it's unchangingly there.

[1:00:05] Consciousness is unchangingly there.

[1:00:07] Nirvikaara.

[1:00:08] And it's non-stick.

[1:00:10] Asanga.

[1:00:12] Non-stick.

[1:00:13] And it's always the same.

[1:00:15] Samaha.

[1:00:17] Experiences differ, but consciousness doesn't differ.

[1:00:19] Samaha.

[1:00:21] And it's untraumatized.

[1:00:26] Avyayaha.

[1:00:27] It is the light of lights.

[1:00:29] Jyotisham apitad jyoti.

[1:00:30] Light of lights.

[1:00:31] It is self-luminous.

[1:00:32] Swaprakasha.

[1:00:33] All of this.

[1:00:36] Another thing about consciousness.

[1:00:38] It is direct, immediate, choiceless, instantaneous, effortless.

[1:00:45] How is consciousness presented?

[1:00:46] It's presented directly, not through anything.

[1:00:49] And it's effortless.

[1:00:50] You don't have to do anything to be conscious.

[1:00:52] Try to be not conscious, you can't.

[1:00:56] What do people try to do?

[1:00:57] They get drunk and try to lose consciousness.

[1:01:00] Just have the conscious experience of being drunk.

[1:01:05] But they become unconscious, Swami.

[1:01:06] Yes, they have the conscious experience of being unconscious.

[1:01:10] They're not really unconscious.

[1:01:13] So, you can never be not conscious.

[1:01:17] Vedanta would claim, even under anesthesia there is

[1:01:19] consciousness.

[1:01:20] That does not mean Vedanta doubts the efficacy of anesthesia.

[1:01:23] No, no, not at all.

[1:01:24] Vedanta's explanation of anesthesia is different.

[1:01:28] The medical explanation of anesthesia is, you block consciousness.

[1:01:32] You stop consciousness from arising.

[1:01:34] Therefore, you don't feel pain, if it's general anesthesia.

[1:01:37] Vedanta's explanation of anesthesia is, you block

[1:01:40] the access of consciousness to objects.

[1:01:42] You block the objects from arising, from being presented to consciousness.

[1:01:46] It's like being in deep sleep.

[1:01:55] So, it is choiceless.

[1:01:58] Consciousness is choiceless.

[1:01:59] You don't have a choice in it.

[1:02:01] It's effortless.

[1:02:02] It's directly present.

[1:02:04] It's choiceless.

[1:02:05] This direct, immediate nature of consciousness is called aparoksha.

[1:02:10] Alright, that's enough to be going on with.

[1:02:12] Now, let's enter the really difficult part of it.

[1:02:15] What's the really difficult part of it?

[1:02:17] All of what I did just now, in philosophy, it is immediately recognizable as Sankhya,

[1:02:24] which we use to separate consciousness from the objects.

[1:02:27] Here is the world of objects, external objects,

[1:02:29] physical objects, mental objects.

[1:02:31] They're all objects.

[1:02:32] Even mind is object, not subject in this analysis.

[1:02:35] See how different it is from our usual discourse.

[1:02:38] And these are worthwhile exercises.

[1:02:40] If I tell you what you already know, what's the point?

[1:02:45] But if I'm telling you something that you don't know

[1:02:46] and still it seems reasonable, that's exciting.

[1:02:49] I'm learning something, an utterly new way of looking at it.

[1:02:55] Consciousness is separated from all the objects.

[1:02:59] The objects are separate, consciousness is separate.

[1:03:01] This is called Atma-Anatma vichara, self and not self inquiry.

[1:03:06] Drig-Drishya vichara, this inquiry into the seer and the seen.

[1:03:11] But now the question arises, what is the relationship

[1:03:14] of the objects to consciousness?

[1:03:17] Are they utterly separate?

[1:03:18] You can't say utterly separate because they're all the time interacting.

[1:03:20] After all, we are seeing and hearing and smelling and tasting objects.

[1:03:23] And we identify with some of them.

[1:03:26] We identify with the body and the mind.

[1:03:28] Some of these objects, we're continuously interacting with them.

[1:03:31] What's the relationship between them?

[1:03:34] Huge subject, endless philosophical views are there.

[1:03:38] Some views say they are distinct but interacting.

[1:03:41] Some would say that.

[1:03:43] Some would say, no, no, no, they are one reality.

[1:03:45] It is matter alone, the object alone which produces consciousness.

[1:03:49] Who says that?

[1:03:50] Materialism says that.

[1:03:51] The brain produces consciousness.

[1:03:53] The scientist will come, the materialist will come and say, Swami,

[1:03:56] all of what you have said, I agree with.

[1:03:58] I have no problems with it except all this fancy consciousness talk.

[1:04:02] It's actually the brain which is producing this consciousness.

[1:04:05] Once the brain is gone, lights off, finished.

[1:04:08] But there you will have the hard problem of consciousness.

[1:04:11] You can't explain how the brain is producing consciousness.

[1:04:14] It's a huge issue, debate which is going on now.

[1:04:17] Robert Lawrence Kuhn said there are now he's saying more than 400 theories

[1:04:21] of consciousness, which is crazy.

[1:04:24] The latest issue of Scientific American, this month, the cover story,

[1:04:30] consciousness, the impossible question.

[1:04:32] It says, Scientific American.

[1:04:35] 20 years ago it would have said, it's the brain, that's it.

[1:04:39] Now, imagine the enormous shift.

[1:04:43] Now, it's not that they are adopting the Vedantic perspective

[1:04:46] or a Buddhist perspective.

[1:04:47] No, some of them are, some of them are not.

[1:04:49] But I'm saying the question is now a serious question.

[1:04:53] What was taken as granted, one day we will see

[1:04:55] how the brain produces consciousness.

[1:04:56] They are no longer saying that anymore.

[1:04:59] So, the question about how, what is the relationship of object

[1:05:03] to consciousness, matter to awareness.

[1:05:06] And I will jump straight to the Vedantic answer.

[1:05:10] The Vedantic answer is, matter is an appearance in consciousness.

[1:05:15] The object is an appearance in consciousness.

[1:05:19] It has the immediate advantage of being true to our experience.

[1:05:22] Where do you see objects?

[1:05:24] In consciousness.

[1:05:26] Where do you see the world?

[1:05:28] You might say, no, it's out there.

[1:05:29] But where is out there?

[1:05:30] It's in you only.

[1:05:33] One Swami, he was giving a talk in India.

[1:05:38] He was talking about the all-pervading nature of consciousness

[1:05:40] and somebody at the back of the hall objected.

[1:05:42] He said, Swami, I am there and I'm not there.

[1:05:46] I am here and I'm not there.

[1:05:48] And you are there and you are not here.

[1:05:49] How can I be everywhere?

[1:05:52] And the Swami answered, ah, but here and there, are they not both in you?

[1:05:58] What does he mean by that?

[1:05:59] If you think of yourself as the body, clearly I am here and you are there.

[1:06:03] But if you think of yourself as a field of consciousness, experiencing objects,

[1:06:07] where are those objects being experienced?

[1:06:09] In consciousness.

[1:06:11] The universe appears in consciousness as the known and the unknown.

[1:06:15] Remember, it's not that you know everything.

[1:06:17] Even the unknown part of the universe, where is it unknown?

[1:06:19] To whom is it unknown?

[1:06:20] To consciousness.

[1:06:23] The unknown is converted into the known by consciousness through instruments

[1:06:27] of knowledge, through what are called epistemic instruments.

[1:06:32] It sounds like a mouthful but it's very simple.

[1:06:35] I don't know what's behind me.

[1:06:39] Now, where is that I don't know what's behind me?

[1:06:41] In my consciousness, that's there as the unknown.

[1:06:44] Now I can do this.

[1:06:47] Oh, now I know what's behind me, the curtain.

[1:06:49] What happened?

[1:06:50] I used my epistemic instruments and I took a look.

[1:06:54] I converted the unknown, I brought it into the range of the known.

[1:06:58] That's all I did.

[1:06:59] But in both cases, it was in, this is in my field of consciousness

[1:07:05] as the known, that's in my field of consciousness as the unknown.

[1:07:08] The universe down to the furthest galaxy and the tiniest particle here are all

[1:07:14] in consciousness as the known and the unknown.

[1:07:17] They are indeed all appearances in consciousness.

[1:07:20] This is the hard part.

[1:07:22] What I'm claiming until this point, whatever I said is already

[1:07:26] within our experience.

[1:07:27] Just take some, you know, need to look at it in a new way.

[1:07:31] This part, what I'm just saying now, the universe, your consciousness

[1:07:35] and the universe is in consciousness, is indeed nothing other than consciousness

[1:07:39] appearing to itself as an objective universe.

[1:07:42] This seems tremendous because it is tremendous.

[1:07:45] But here also, the claim is, it is within your experience.

[1:07:50] In fact, this is what experience is right now.

[1:07:53] Right now.

[1:07:54] It's just that it's too much to wrap our heads around sometimes.

[1:07:58] If you can, you say, no, why is it too much to wrap my head around?

[1:08:01] It seems straightforward.

[1:08:03] You're lucky.

[1:08:04] You're lucky.

[1:08:05] That is the non-dual experience.

[1:08:09] This is called, what do you call this in Sanskrit?

[1:08:12] Advaitam, non-dual.

[1:08:15] This non-dual consciousness, you are.

[1:08:17] This is the meaning of Tat tvam asi, thou art that.

[1:08:22] This is the extraordinary clarification of ordinary experience.

[1:08:27] From that perspective, as endless being, endless awareness, as Ananda,

[1:08:32] fulfillment itself, I have not argued those points out yet.

[1:08:35] No time.

[1:08:36] But from that perspective, not as this person, from that perspective,

[1:08:41] what problem do you have?

[1:08:43] Fear of death, the biggie.

[1:08:45] You can't die.

[1:08:45] The body dies.

[1:08:46] You cannot die.

[1:08:48] If the consciousness is not produced by the brain, as the heart problem

[1:08:52] of consciousness seems to suggest, why would you think

[1:08:54] that consciousness dies when the brain dies?

[1:08:57] You don't die with the death of the brain.

[1:09:00] Oh, I have so many issues and problems and in the mind.

[1:09:05] Is it in consciousness or in the mind?

[1:09:07] It's in the mind.

[1:09:10] Why let it bother you?

[1:09:12] You are consciousness itself.

[1:09:14] You are not the mind.

[1:09:16] You are not the body.

[1:09:18] One way of applying this, one monk put it beautifully,

[1:09:21] keep things where they belong.

[1:09:25] It sounds like something your mom would tell you,

[1:09:28] keep things where they belong.

[1:09:29] It was very good advice.

[1:09:31] Where are I becoming old and wrinkled?

[1:09:34] No, no, no, wait.

[1:09:35] Is consciousness becoming wrinkled?

[1:09:37] No, it's the skin which is becoming wrinkled.

[1:09:40] I am awareness, the unwrinkled.

[1:09:42] I could add that one more.

[1:09:43] The unwrinkled.

[1:09:44] The gapless unwrinkled consciousness.

[1:09:50] Though, there is an old Advaitic text.

[1:10:00] The Changdev Pashashti in Marathi, where the author, he calls the universe

[1:10:10] a wrinkle in the cloth of consciousness.

[1:10:15] Consciousness, cloth you fold it, it's a new shape.

[1:10:19] Looks utterly new, but what is it?

[1:10:20] It's through and through the same cloth and nothing really has happened to

[1:10:24] the cloth except a fold in the cloth.

[1:10:26] Which is an example I've never come across anywhere else, but a beautiful example.

[1:10:30] It's an example.

[1:10:32] So, if the universe, we always say name and form,

[1:10:34] but how does the name and form come?

[1:10:36] Think about it as folding your handkerchief, as folding a napkin.

[1:10:41] It's a fold in consciousness, in a way of speaking.

[1:10:45] So, this non-dual, one non-dual consciousness,

[1:10:48] what problem does it have?

[1:10:50] This one non-dual consciousness, it can't die, it can't get sick,

[1:10:54] it can't be unhappy and what does it need?

[1:11:01] Nothing.

[1:11:02] Because everything is a manifestation of that thing, of that one consciousness.

[1:11:06] It is appearing as the entire universe.

[1:11:09] All objects, remember?

[1:11:10] Consciousness appearing as all objects.

[1:11:12] What is there other than this consciousness?

[1:11:14] Nothing.

[1:11:14] It doesn't need anything.

[1:11:15] It is everything, in fact.

[1:11:18] Whom does it hate?

[1:11:21] There's nobody for it to hate.

[1:11:22] Non-dual.

[1:11:23] Everybody is it.

[1:11:24] They are all you.

[1:11:25] You are that, so they all are you.

[1:11:27] Even your worst enemy is you.

[1:11:36] What problem does it have?

[1:11:38] Nothing.

[1:11:41] And then, after all of this, life will still continue.

[1:11:45] Life will continue.

[1:11:46] Then what can you do?

[1:11:47] You can speak like Dostoevsky.

[1:11:51] In the midst of torment, in the midst of suffering, physical, mental, emotional,

[1:11:56] in the midst of struggle and deprivation, I exist.

[1:12:00] I am.

[1:12:02] Can't be doubted.

[1:12:03] Take a look.

[1:12:04] And this I am is the light which gives me all experiences of life.

[1:12:08] It is the miracle.

[1:12:10] It's the feeling of life itself.

[1:12:12] It's what Michael Pollan calls the world appears.

[1:12:14] Because of that, it's Sakshi.

[1:12:16] That I am is the Sakshi, the witness consciousness.

[1:12:19] I'm always there, gaplessly there.

[1:12:23] I am non-stick.

[1:12:25] Whatever appears, comes and goes in me, but it doesn't stick to me.

[1:12:29] All the torments of the world, they don't stick to me.

[1:12:32] All the goodies of the world also don't stick to me.

[1:12:37] And I am not traumatized.

[1:12:39] That I exist, Dostoevsky points out, my body may be broken by suffering,

[1:12:45] my mind may be traumatized by it, but that I exist is not affected by it.

[1:12:51] It's still I exist.

[1:12:52] The same I exist.

[1:12:54] In the midst of pain, in the midst of sitting on top of a pillar,

[1:12:58] loneliness, utter loneliness, I exist.

[1:13:00] It's the same I exist, which is in the middle of a marketplace also.

[1:13:04] The same I exist.

[1:13:06] What problem does that I exist have?

[1:13:09] Nothing.

[1:13:11] And that's present with us and available to us at every moment, even

[1:13:15] when we are having problems.

[1:13:16] Because it is our real nature.

[1:13:18] So this living from that I exist, living from that that asandighdham,

[1:13:26] the sakshi, the nirantara, nirvikara, samaha, asanga, avyayaha,

[1:13:34] the jyotisham apitad jyoti, the svaprakasha, aparoksha, advaya consciousness,

[1:13:41] from that perspective, relief is possible all the time.

[1:13:47] This is enlightenment in both senses of the word.

[1:13:49] One is enlightenment, you suddenly, ah I get it.

[1:13:52] The other one is you feel lighter.

[1:13:55] Oh, enlightenment, the burden is removed right here and now.

[1:14:00] One Buddhist monk put it beautifully.

[1:14:02] A man carrying a heavy burden, how much weight is there?

[1:14:06] A lot.

[1:14:06] But then suddenly you realize, no, no, no, it's in a mirror.

[1:14:10] How much weight is the mirror feeling?

[1:14:12] Nothing.

[1:14:14] But the man is there and the burden is there.

[1:14:16] Nothing.

[1:14:17] It's an appearance.

[1:14:18] Similarly, in the mirror of consciousness, the entire universe appears along

[1:14:23] with this body and this little life.

[1:14:25] While it appears, you're still free of it.

[1:14:28] That's the beauty of it.

[1:14:29] You don't have to wipe it out.

[1:14:31] You don't have to sit in meditation and close your eyes.

[1:14:33] I won't look at life, then I'll be free of it.

[1:14:35] Not necessary.

[1:14:36] You can sit in meditation if you like.

[1:14:38] You can open your eyes and fully be engaged in life,

[1:14:41] in whatever we are doing and still be completely free.

[1:14:44] This is called Jeevan Mukti, free while living.

[1:14:48] I pray on this day when we begin our fall session, I pray to

[1:14:52] Sri Ramakrishna, Ma Sarada, Swami Vivekananda to bless all of us

[1:14:57] that this light may dawn in our lives, that this enlightenment

[1:15:00] may come to us in this very life itself.

[1:15:14] Sri Ramakrishna Arpanamastu

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Hindu monk and prolific Advaita Vedanta scholar leading the Vedanta Society of New York since 2017, known for making ancient philosophical teachings accessible to modern audiences.

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In the talk, Swami Sarvapriyananda traces Brahman to a root meaning to expand or swell without limit, so it is understood as the vast. It is defined through the Taittiriya Upanishad as satyam jnanam anantam, meaning reality, consciousness and the infinite.
Sat chit ananda names existence, consciousness and bliss as the nature of ultimate reality. The speaker argues these three also answer philosophy's oldest questions: what is real (ontology), how we know (epistemology), and what is the point (axiology).
The witness consciousness, or sakshi, is the awareness that observes all experience without becoming any object within it. The speaker summarizes perception as consciousness plus object equals experience, so the awareness itself remains unchanged.
Yes, according to the talk. The speaker argues that extraordinary experiences can be rare and doubted, while ordinary experience is always available, and the infinite is already present within it, covered over by the veil of the finite.
Jivan mukti means freedom while living. In the talk, the speaker presents it as enlightenment in both senses: clarity about what we are, and the freedom that follows when that understanding shapes how one lives amid life's challenges.
The speaker argues that when no object comes before awareness, the absence itself is revealed, so awareness is not broken by the loss of objects. He applies the same reasoning to general anesthesia, though he frames this as a philosophical argument for listeners to test.

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