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Inspiration

Durga Puja, the Divine Mother, and the Gift of Surrender

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Swami Sarvapriyananda
Oct 24, 2026
10 min di lettura

Da Vedanta Society of New York

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A lecture on the Divine Mother, delivered by Swami Sarvapriyananda and published by the Vedanta Society of New York in October 2026, opens in a place that seems to have nothing to do with a monastery: Times Square, on the evening of a Durga Puja, with King Kong and Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse crowding the same square as the image of the goddess. From that unlikely scene the speaker moves backward through Vedic fire ritual and the Puranas, then forward through the lives of Sri Ramakrishna, Swami Vivekananda and the Holy Mother. Along the way he makes a case that worship of God as Mother is the oldest living form of devotion in Hinduism, that the personal God and the nondual Brahman are not rivals, and that the most practical spiritual act available to a human being is to surrender to a power that is already caring for them. What follows walks through the ideas in that lecture so that the argument can be followed without the video in front of you.

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Can a festival this noisy really be sacred?

The speaker's first question is not theological but cultural: is it appropriate to hold Durga Puja in the middle of Times Square? His answer comes from the Sanskrit texts that describe the festival itself. After the image of the goddess is immersed on the tenth day, Dashami, the texts prescribe something called Sabar Utsav. "All the children of the mother dressed in colorful costumes," he describes, parading in groups, throwing flowers, singing, dancing and calling out to one another joyously. The language, he notes with some amusement, is "not very scriptural" by polite standards. The texts even say the Devi will be annoyed if this part of the festival is left out (3:09 and following in the lecture).

He then recounts a scene from Belur Math, where the image was immersed in the Ganga as it still is. Before the immersion, devotees dance in front of the image in a special style called Dhoorichi Nritta, with pots of smoke, which the speaker admits is "a little difficult." A devoted doctor, Dr. Kanjilal, threw himself into the dance so fully that other devotees complained to the Mother that it was inappropriate for a sacred festival. Her reply, as the speaker tells it, was that the dance should go on because the Devi enjoys it and is pleased by it. "She didn't say Sabar utsav, but that's what she meant," he says. "She validated it."

The point is a sharp one for anyone who has ever felt that devotion must be solemn to be real. Joy, noise and abandon are not a lapse from the sacred. In his reading they are part of how the sacred is honored. Times Square, he jokes, has become a kind of nitya Sabar utsav, a perpetual festival running through the night.

Why is Durga Puja called the greatest ritual?

To answer this, the speaker goes back to the Vedic period. Ancient India, he argues, was not built around temples or even images. Its religion was ritual, and its center was the homa and yajna, the elaborate fire offerings. The greatest of them was the Ashwamedha Yajna, a massive, costly and complicated rite. "All that is obsolete now," he says (5:15). Hinduism, over the last two to three thousand years, has shifted toward the worship of deities through puja, the form of worship most people in the lecture's audience would recognize.

So what, in the modern world, stands in the place of the Ashwamedha? The speaker's answer is Durga Puja. That is why it is called Maha Puja, the great worship. He points to its days, Maha Saptami, Maha Ashtami, Maha Navami, and notes that while the first of these is often left unspoken, it belongs in the same grandeur. Each region of India has its own central observance, he explains. In western India and Karnataka, Ganesha Puja plays that role, and in Bengal, Durga Puja is the central expression of Bengali culture.

The lineage matters to his argument. A ritual that has carried the weight of the Vedic fire altar into the present is not a recent invention, and the speaker is at pains to say that the worship of Durga herself goes back to the Vedas, where the Devi Suktam appears in the Rig Veda. "It is one of the oldest, one of the most ancient living rituals in the world today," he says.

Is God male, female, or neither?

The speaker's method on this question is the Hindu habit of answering with a qualified yes and no. Do Hindus believe in God? Yes, though some strains, such as Sankhya, Yoga and Purva Mimamsa, are agnostic or reject a creator. Is God male? "Yes and no. Look, God is proudly female." Is God with form? Yes and no again: God has form, and not just one form but endlessly many, which is why the variety of deities can seem bewildering. "The truth is one. The sages call it variously," he says, invoking the Rig Veda's line, Ekam Sat Vipra Bahudha Vadanti (8:51).

Mother worship, he says, is the earliest recognizable form. He recalls learning as a schoolboy about the Indus Valley Civilization, and about a figurine of a Mother Goddess among its earliest artifacts, dating back more than five thousand years. He notes that the civilization is now often called the Saraswati Civilization. The line of argument is that human beings first met the sacred in the form of a mother, and that this instinct has never disappeared.

"There is in this universe a great power which thinks of itself as feminine. You worship it as mother. She thinks of itself as the mother of the universe." (Swami Sarvapriyananda, quoting Swami Vivekananda, Vedanta Society of New York lecture)

How did Durga come before the universe?

The lecture leans on the Brahma Vaivarta Purana, which traces the history of Durga's worship back to the beginning. According to this account, the goddess was worshipped before the universe itself was created, in the eternal Vrindavan, the realm where Krishna dances eternally with the gopis, and not the earthly Vrindavan. There Krishna is said to have worshipped Durga for the first time. The speaker treats this as a timeless origin rather than a historical date, which is how Puranic cosmology is meant to be heard. The image of the Mother is not a late addition to a male-centered religion. In this telling, she is prior to creation.

What does it mean to see God in a living presence instead of a stone?

Here the lecture turns to Narendra, the young man who would become Swami Vivekananda. The speaker describes him as someone who did not believe in image worship or ritualism, and who was proud of his intellect (32:31 in the lecture). The story unfolds around his encounter with Mother Kali. Where he expected a stone image, the speaker says, he found a living presence. He returned and, in effect, admitted that the Mother had been at play with him: "I know it is your play." The lecture uses this turn to show how a skeptic can be humbled not by argument but by direct contact.

This is also where the speaker separates two kinds of realization. One is the nondual realization of Brahman, the ultimate reality beyond all names and forms. The other is the personal relationship with the Mother who appears in forms. The lecture does not treat them as competitors. The speaker's argument is that the personal form is the way many people approach the formless, and that devotion to the Mother can lead to the same ultimate truth that the sages describe in abstract terms.

What does taking refuge in the Mother look like?

The lecture's most practical section is built on a Sanskrit phrase, Ma Tvam Hi Tara, which the speaker glosses in the lines that follow: "You are the one who takes us across the samsara, the ocean of samsara" (37:17). The Mother here is the one who ferries the devotee across the sea of birth and death. Taking refuge is not a complicated intellectual exercise. It is letting go.

To make this clear, the speaker draws a contrast between two kinds of spiritual posture, using images of animals. The baby monkey clings to its mother, holding on with its own grip as she leaps from tree to tree. The kitten, by contrast, is carried by the mother, who grips it by the scruff, and the kitten does nothing but go limp. The monkey path is effort, discipline and self-reliance. The kitten path is surrender, trusting that the Mother will carry you (39:08). The speaker's sympathy is clearly with the kitten for those who find effort impossible, and he asks his listeners to consider which of the two they are trying to be.

The surrender he describes is not passive resignation. It is an act of trust in a power that already holds you. "If you can surrender to God," the lecture suggests, a person stops trying to control every outcome and begins to live within a larger play.

What did the Holy Mother mean for Vivekananda's mission?

The lecture moves from Vivekananda's own inner life to the Holy Mother, Sri Sarada Devi, and her blessings for his work (46:41). In the speaker's telling, the Mother is not a distant symbol but a person whose grace shaped a movement. The lecture also reminds listeners that the Mother's presence is not limited to a single temple or to one famous devotee. The speaker then turns to a broader point (52:02): the Divine Mother can be seen in all women, and to honor a woman is to honor the same power that is worshipped as Durga or Kali.

What is the final lesson of the Mother's play?

The lecture ends with the idea that life itself can be seen as the Mother's play (55:04). The speaker suggests that when a person encounters difficulty, the right response is to recognize that the difficulty is part of a larger order. "It is her play," he says (58:14). Humans, he admits, find this hard. "It doesn't come easily to us." Yet the wiser response, he says, is to accept whatever karma comes as a blessing from God, and to "express our helplessness" to the Mother, who can take that helplessness and turn it into grace.

Where to go from here

The lecture is best understood as a single argument with several entry points. Start with the Times Square scene and the Sabar Utsav passage, which show how joy and devotion belong together. Then follow the Vedic and Puranic material to see how deep the tradition of Mother worship runs. Finally, listen to the sections on Narendra, Ma Tvam Hi Tara, and the monkey and kitten, which give the surrender teaching its practical edge. Anyone interested in the full scriptural context can explore the Vedanta Society of New York's lecture archive, which groups talks by scripture and by topic, and its published books by Swami Sarvapriyananda. Those who want to test the idea of surrender in their own lives might begin with a single question the lecture leaves open: where in your life are you trying to be the monkey, and where might you let yourself be carried?

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[0:07] Om Asatoma Sadgamaya Tamasoma Jyotirgamaya Mrityurma Amritam Gamaya Om Shanti Shanti Shanti

[0:31] Om lead us from the unreal to the real, lead us from darkness

[0:39] to light, lead us from death to immortality.

[0:44] Om Peace Peace Peace. Namaste, good morning and welcome.

[0:53] Durga Puja which is one of the greatest religious festivities

[0:59] of India.

[1:03] I had an interesting experience yesterday in the evening.

[1:08] I attended Durga Puja in Times Square.

[1:12] And Times Square was very Times Square yesterday.

[1:16] All light and people and costumes and I mean there was Durga Puja

[1:21] but there was also King Kong and Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse.

[1:27] And you know, the thought was that is it appropriate to have

[1:32] Durga Puja in the middle of Times Square?

[1:35] Then I was reminded of one of the components of Durga Puja

[1:40] which is actually in the Sanskrit text describing Durga Puja.

[1:44] It is something called Sabar Utsav.

[1:47] Sabar Utsav, you know Durga Puja, the tenth day, Dashami,

[1:52] when the image is immersed.

[1:54] And then after that, the text says there should be Sabar Utsav.

[1:59] What is Sabar Utsav?

[1:59] And it describes in detail.

[2:01] All the children of the mother dressed in colorful costumes.

[2:06] They will come in a parade, in a group and they will be throwing flowers.

[2:10] And they will sing and they will dance.

[2:14] And they will call out to each other joyously.

[2:17] And they will shout and yell at each other and the words, it is all described there.

[2:22] They are not very scriptural words to say the least, to put it politely.

[2:28] And it is prescribed

[2:29] and it says that the Devi will be Rushdha, will be annoyed, she will be miffed

[2:33] if this component is missed out.

[2:35] If you stop this from happening.

[2:40] Ma Sharada, Durga Puja in Belur Math.

[2:43] She was there, Durga Puja in Belur Math and the image was immersed in the Ganga

[2:48] as it is done even now, every time.

[2:51] And after the immersion, the monks, the devotees, there is music

[2:58] and they dance in front of the image before the immersion,

[3:02] just before the immersion.

[3:04] And it is a special dance called Dhoorichi Nritta, which is with pots

[3:09] with smoke coming out of them and you dance.

[3:13] It is a little difficult actually.

[3:16] So there was one doctor who was a great devotee, Dr. Kanjilal.

[3:19] And he was dancing, but he was really into the dance.

[3:25] And the devotees felt a little annoyed.

[3:28] They said, they complained to the mother, this is not appropriate,

[3:31] this is inappropriate.

[3:32] After all, it's a sacred festival and you shouldn't dance like

[3:37] this in front of the Devi.

[3:41] She said to the contrary, no, it should be done

[3:45] because the Devi likes it.

[3:47] She is pleased by it.

[3:49] This is Sabar utsav.

[3:50] She didn't say Sabar utsav, but that's what she meant.

[3:53] She validated it.

[3:55] So yesterday I thought, Times Square is Nitya Sabar utsav.

[4:01] Perpetually the Sabar utsav, that festival is going on day

[4:05] and night there, especially at night.

[4:07] So that's fine.

[4:08] That's perfectly fine.

[4:10] Durga Puja is one of the greatest religious festivals,

[4:16] occasions in Hinduism.

[4:18] The ancient Hindus, Hindus always have been very ritualistic.

[4:22] The ancient Hindus, their main religion was ritualism.

[4:27] You might say, isn't it Vedanta?

[4:28] No, no, no, not really.

[4:30] This is marginal.

[4:32] The real religion at that time in India, if you go there,

[4:35] you'll find these elaborate fire rituals.

[4:38] The Homa, the Yajnya, the fire ritual and nothing dies in Hinduism.

[4:43] It still continues.

[4:44] So if there is a big puja, big ritual, there will always be a Homa,

[4:49] a fire ritual associated with it.

[4:51] In Durga Puja, for example, Navami, ninth day, there is a Homa, a fire ritual.

[4:57] And ancient India was not about temples, not even about images, but there were

[5:04] elaborate fire rituals, Yajnya.

[5:05] And the greatest of those elaborate fire rituals,

[5:08] the most massive, expensive, complicated was the Ashwamedha Yajnya.

[5:15] All that is obsolete now.

[5:17] You won't find anybody doing an Ashwamedha Yajnya now.

[5:21] It is said that those rituals do not give results

[5:24] in Kali Yuga, in the age of Kali.

[5:27] They have been replaced in Hinduism.

[5:29] Hinduism has moved on from there over the last, I would say,

[5:32] two to three thousand years.

[5:35] Hinduism has become more about worship of the deities.

[5:39] And those are the puja, what we do, what we call puja, what you just saw.

[5:43] If you were here earlier, you just saw puja.

[5:46] Now, why am I saying this?

[5:49] What compares to the Ashwamedha Yajnya of the Vedic times,

[5:55] the greatest fire ritual of Vedic times, the comparable ritual

[6:00] today is the Durga Puja.

[6:02] That is why Durga Puja is called Maha Puja.

[6:05] Maha Puja, the great puja.

[6:06] It is the greatest of all rituals existing practice now.

[6:11] And each of the days, we know, we say Maha Ashtami.

[6:14] Today, for example, is actually Saptami.

[6:17] Maha Ashtami, Shasti, Saptami, Ashtami, Navami, Dashami.

[6:21] These are the days of the puja.

[6:25] And we say Maha Ashtami, Maha Navami.

[6:28] But it is also true to say Maha Saptami.

[6:30] Often it is not said, but it is actually Maha Saptami also.

[6:34] So, it is the greatest of these rituals.

[6:37] And most elaborate, most, very revered.

[6:42] Each part of India, each strain of Hinduism has its own central ritual.

[6:47] So, in the western part of India, we see just before the Durga Puja,

[6:50] there is the Ganesha Puja.

[6:52] Which is the western part of India, Maharashtra and Gujarat

[6:55] and many other places.

[6:56] Ganesha Puja, Karnataka, Ganesha Puja is huge.

[6:59] It is like the Durga Puja.

[7:01] Just like that in the eastern part of India, in Bengal, Durga Puja

[7:05] is the corresponding kind of Maha Puja.

[7:08] But Durga Puja is celebrated all over India.

[7:11] So, in Ganesha Puja is over in Mumbai, it is now full of Durga Puja.

[7:15] But the Bengali Durga Puja has its own flavor.

[7:18] It is the central part of Bengali culture.

[7:23] Worship of the Divine Mother.

[7:24] Yesterday I was saying in Times Square, that in Hinduism, any question you ask,

[7:28] the answer is always yes and no.

[7:31] Is God male?

[7:33] Do Hindus believe in God?

[7:35] Yes.

[7:35] No.

[7:37] There are orthodox strains of Hinduism like Sankhya and Yoga,

[7:41] even the Purva Mimamsa, which do not, either they are agnostic about God

[7:44] or they don't believe in God.

[7:47] And yes, of course, Hindus believe in God.

[7:50] Look.

[7:51] And is God male?

[7:54] Yes and no.

[7:57] Look, God is proudly female.

[8:00] The most ancient forms of worship of God in Hinduism has been Mother worship.

[8:06] I remember as school students, we used to study about

[8:09] the Indus Valley Civilization.

[8:10] Now it is called the Saraswati Civilization.

[8:13] There, one of the oldest archaeological artifacts

[8:17] recovered was the figurine of the Mother Goddess.

[8:19] The worship of the Mother Goddess.

[8:20] And that goes back 5000 plus years.

[8:23] So God is worshipped as female.

[8:25] God is worshipped in human forms, in non-human forms.

[8:30] Form and formless.

[8:31] Is God without form?

[8:32] Yes and no.

[8:35] God is with form too.

[8:37] And not with just one form.

[8:38] Many, many, many forms.

[8:41] Endless.

[8:42] People find it bewildering, the variety of deities and yet God is one.

[8:46] It's one reality.

[8:47] You can see right there.

[8:48] The truth is one.

[8:49] The sages call it variously.

[8:51] Ekam Sat Vipra Bahudha Vadanti.

[8:54] One of the ways in which God has been worshipped is Durga.

[8:57] It goes all the way back.

[8:59] Many people think it's a new innovation in Bengal recently.

[9:02] There have been changes in Durga Puja in Bengal recently,

[9:04] last two, three hundred years.

[9:05] But if you see the worship of Durga herself, it goes all the way back

[9:09] to the Vedas, to the Rig Veda.

[9:11] Very clearly it is there.

[9:12] The Devi Suktam is there.

[9:15] So it is one of the oldest, one of the most ancient living rituals

[9:21] in the world today.

[9:23] You worship of God as mother.

[9:26] Swami Vivekananda would say, There is in this universe a great power

[9:31] which thinks of itself as feminine.

[9:34] You worship it as mother.

[9:36] She thinks of itself as the mother of the universe.

[9:43] There is one of the Puranas, Brahma Vaiyavarta Purana, that traces

[9:49] the history of the Durga Puja.

[9:51] How Durga was worshipped from the most ancient times.

[9:55] It says, Durga was first worshipped before the universe was created.

[9:59] In the eternal Vrindavan, where Krishna reigns eternally

[10:03] in Vrindavan, not the earthly Vrindavan, the eternal Vrindavan.

[10:06] Earth was not there at that time.

[10:07] In the eternal Vrindavan, in the rasa mandala,

[10:11] where the eternal dance of the gopis is going on with Krishna.

[10:15] There Krishna worshipped Durga for the first time.

[10:18] That is the first instance of worship.

[10:20] That is timeless.

[10:22] Before time was created, space was created,

[10:24] the universe was created.

[10:26] Then next we find Madhu Kaitava Vada.

[10:30] When we start the chanting, Madhu Kaitava is mentioned here.

[10:33] The two demons Madhu and Kaitava.

[10:35] These stories are very fascinating.

[10:36] I'll tell a couple of stories.

[10:38] How do you deal with these stories?

[10:41] They are not supposed to be historical.

[10:45] Swami Vivekananda says the way to use this, these are myths,

[10:48] but myths not in the sense of false.

[10:51] The religious scholar Reza Aslan says myths are always true because they hold

[10:57] a core of truth, which is an eternal spiritual truth, spiritual

[11:00] or moral truth, which is always true.

[11:02] The story is the coating.

[11:04] Swami Vivekananda tells us how to use these stories.

[11:07] He says, listen to the stories, let it wash through you.

[11:10] What it leaves behind is the truth.

[11:13] It will leave behind truth.

[11:14] It's like water washing over you and leaving

[11:16] the fertile soil behind, the silt.

[11:21] Similarly, story.

[11:23] So at the point of creation, you know the iconography Vishnu, God.

[11:30] Now before creation, God is sleeping.

[11:33] He's a bit of a couch potato.

[11:36] So he's reclining, the reclining posture.

[11:38] He's got his couch, the cosmic serpent Ananta Sheshanaga,

[11:42] with a thousand heads, and Vishnu reclines there.

[11:46] He's snoozing.

[11:48] And then he decides to, the universe is to be created.

[11:51] You know the iconography that a lotus blooms from the navel of Vishnu

[11:55] and Brahma is created there.

[11:58] But at the same time, two demons emerged from Vishnu's ear

[12:03] and they dropped into the primal waters.

[12:07] Because of course, before the universe, it was all covered in water.

[12:11] If you know, how interesting the creation story

[12:14] in Vedas and in Genesis, both of them start with

[12:18] before the universe was created, all this was covered in water.

[12:23] So water of course does not mean H2O there.

[12:25] It means the avyakta, the maya from which everything emerges.

[12:30] So the primal waters, Kimasid Ghanam Gabhiram, in the Vedic sutras you find,

[12:37] what existed in that unfathomed depth.

[12:41] So those two demons dropped into that water and they did

[12:46] terrific austerities to gain power, the demons.

[12:51] So there are descriptions.

[12:52] One of them, I think, stood on his head for a thousand years and then

[12:56] the other one held his breath for a thousand years.

[13:00] I think till he was blue in his face.

[13:03] And so the divine mother, she was pleased with them.

[13:07] She was like, stop, enough already.

[13:09] What do you want?

[13:10] And they said, make us immortal.

[13:12] That's always the prayer of the demons.

[13:14] We want to be evil and we want to do it eternally.

[13:16] We want to be eternally evil.

[13:19] She said, I can't grant you that, but all right,

[13:23] you won't die until you agree to die.

[13:26] Only you can say when you will die.

[13:27] If you agree, then only you will die.

[13:29] They were happy. And they found now whom to terrorize, there's nobody

[13:33] around, only God and he's sleeping.

[13:35] Now they saw, who's this guy, Brahma?

[13:38] Brahma is sitting, God has given him the manual of creation,

[13:41] the Vedas to create the universe.

[13:44] He's sort of the subcontractor, the contractor who's going to be.

[13:47] So you are snoozing on your couch, you tell the contractor

[13:50] to make the house, the universe for you.

[13:53] And he's been given the manual, the Vedas.

[13:55] And these two crooks, they go and terrorize poor Brahma.

[13:59] They make life miserable for him.

[14:01] They steal the Vedas and they hide it somewhere in the waters.

[14:06] And so Brahma is very scared and he's unable to create the universe.

[14:09] Anyway, the manual is lost.

[14:12] So he prays to Her.

[14:15] She appears and he wants protection from these two evil demons,

[14:19] Madhu and Kaitava.

[14:20] Madhu and Kaitava.

[14:22] They are the two primal demons.

[14:24] So what she does, she awakens Vishnu.

[14:29] Because she had put Vishnu to sleep.

[14:32] She's called Vishnu Maya. [Sanskrit shloka]

[14:43] The gods in later ages would chant to her.

[14:47] She who is known as the Maya of Vishnu, who dwells in all beings.

[14:52] That's why we can't see God.

[14:53] She has covered it with a veil.

[14:56] Salutations to the three times salutations.

[14:59] Namasthasyai.

[15:00] So three times salutation means, Swami Chaitanandaji gave

[15:02] this interpretation, that the universe is at three levels of creation.

[15:07] One is this gross physical universe you see around.

[15:09] But this is the mother.

[15:11] So salutations to the mother.

[15:13] Then the subtle universe.

[15:14] Each of us has a mind, a personality, thoughts, our inner world of thoughts,

[15:19] feelings, ideas, happiness, misery.

[15:21] So, salutation to the Divine Mother who is in the form of our inner lives,

[15:26] our inner world, subtle world, sukshma.

[15:29] And all of it comes from power, from the causal level.

[15:33] So she who is at the level of the cause of the universe, the seed of the universe,

[15:38] the third namasthasyai, salutations.

[15:40] And the last one, namo namah.

[15:42] The last one is to the ultimate reality, nirguna brahman, which is also she.

[15:47] She is not just the power of Shiva.

[15:50] She is not just the power of God.

[15:52] She is God.

[15:53] She is consciousness plus power.

[15:55] Just power is called Maya.

[15:57] But she is called Maha Maya, which is consciousness plus Maya,

[16:01] which is Brahman and Shakti together.

[16:06] So she removed the veil of Maya from Vishnu and Vishnu awakens.

[16:12] And Brahma asks for protection.

[16:14] So Vishnu fights the demons and the demons fight back.

[16:18] But they are extremely powerful.

[16:19] They have been blessed by Her.

[16:21] So they fight for 5000 years.

[16:23] I kid you not.

[16:25] 5000 years and Vishnu can't defeat them because they are not going to die

[16:29] until they are willing to die.

[16:30] So Vishnu pretends to be exhausted and he says, well, you won.

[16:37] You guys won.

[16:38] I couldn't beat you.

[16:39] And they are also arrogant and stupid.

[16:42] They said, yeah, we beat you.

[16:44] We beat God.

[16:45] And Vishnu says, grant me a boon.

[16:48] Yeah, anything you want, you die.

[16:52] Now they can't refuse that because they said, I will give you a boon.

[16:55] And so they agree to die.

[16:57] But then they may give a condition.

[16:59] They said, you have to kill us only on dry land.

[17:02] But there is no dry land.

[17:03] There is only the primal waters.

[17:06] It's all waters.

[17:08] You know, this is before creation.

[17:09] So finally Vishnu puts the two little demons, at least

[17:13] in iconography, they are shown as two little demons.

[17:15] And they are extremely powerful.

[17:17] He puts them on his thigh and with the Sudarshan chakra,

[17:20] he slays them.

[17:21] That's how he is known as Madhusudana, the slayer of Madhu.

[17:25] Madhu Kaitava, the two demons.

[17:28] That's the first, that's the second time.

[17:32] The first one is of course timeless in Vrindavan.

[17:34] But this is at the point of creation.

[17:37] And Vishnu recovers the Vedas, hands it to Brahma.

[17:40] Quick, create the universe and here we are.

[17:43] The universe has been created.

[17:44] The universe was created the third time.

[17:46] This is all from the Brahma Vaivarta Purana.

[17:48] It's all in, all these stories I am telling you, it's all in one verse.

[17:51] In the Prakriti Khanda of the Brahma Vaivarta Purana.

[17:56] So then millions of years pass.

[17:59] Now it's the turn of Shiva.

[18:02] So there were these three demons again.

[18:07] I forget the names but it's not important.

[18:09] This is the story of Tripura.

[18:11] So they worshipped Brahma.

[18:14] And Brahma appeared before those three demons

[18:17] and said, what do you want?

[18:18] He said, make us immortal.

[18:19] Again, can't do that.

[18:22] That's not for you.

[18:23] Then they said, alright, give us three cities which are impregnable.

[18:29] You know, nobody can kill us when we are in those cities.

[18:32] And so Brahma blesses them.

[18:34] The three cities were created.

[18:36] One, a golden city in the heaven.

[18:40] Second, a silver city in the skies.

[18:42] The third, an iron city on earth.

[18:46] And the three demons reigned on them.

[18:48] And they were a terror to the world.

[18:50] And none of the kings of the world, none of the gods in heavens,

[18:54] none of them could defeat them because they would just retreat to

[18:56] their invincible cities and nobody could do anything to them.

[19:02] Brahma had made one condition that in all the eons,

[19:08] the three cities which, they are apparently like spaceships,

[19:10] so they float around the universe, they will align once for a split second.

[19:17] And if anybody can shoot an arrow through all three cities at the same time,

[19:22] then only the cities can be destroyed.

[19:24] That's the only condition.

[19:25] Otherwise, nobody can destroy the cities or you as long as you are in the cities.

[19:29] So the three cities spin around the universe.

[19:32] I mean, you should make a science fiction movie out of this.

[19:34] It's so amazing, really.

[19:36] I mean, just the grand conception of it, you'll have like Star Wars.

[19:43] Star Wars and Vedanta connection, those who don't know, look it up.

[19:46] There's a strong Vedanta connection, Star Wars.

[19:50] All right, this is relatively like Star Wars.

[19:53] Now what happened?

[19:54] These demons are so powerful, they terrorize the world.

[19:56] And what happens?

[19:57] So people pray to Shiva.

[20:02] And, oh, they pray to the Divine Mother and she says

[20:06] Shiva will destroy the demons.

[20:09] And she tells them how.

[20:11] So he needs equipment.

[20:13] He needs a chariot to go out and attack those three cities.

[20:17] What is the chariot?

[20:18] The earth is the chariot.

[20:21] What are the wheels of the chariot?

[20:22] The wheels of the chariot are the sun and the moon.

[20:25] And Brahma is the charioteer.

[20:29] Vishnu becomes the arrow.

[20:31] And the great mountain Meru becomes the bow.

[20:35] And the warrior is Shiva himself.

[20:38] It is in the Shiva Mahayana Stotra, beautiful verse. [Stotra sung]

[20:56] The earth is the chariot.

[20:58] The sun and the moon are the wheels of the chariot.

[21:01] And the great mountain Meru is the bow.

[21:04] Vishnu himself is the arrow.

[21:07] And Shiva rides this chariot.

[21:08] And Brahma is the charioteer, the driver.

[21:11] So, and this amazing, you know, Uber Excel or whatever you call it.

[21:16] And Shiva rides it to fight against the three demons and the three cities.

[21:20] And at the right moment, in the eons which have passed,

[21:25] the three cities align for one moment.

[21:27] And Shiva shoots that arrow.

[21:30] Can you imagine the space battle scene it would make in a Hollywood movie?

[21:36] Or Bollywood.

[21:37] And Shiva shoots an arrow through all three cities and burns them

[21:42] into ashes in a split second.

[21:44] Although there is a South Indian tradition, a Tamil tradition,

[21:47] in which Shiva doesn't even shoot the arrow.

[21:49] He smiles.

[21:52] So, one of the names of Shiva is the one who smiled

[21:55] and reduced the cities to ashes.

[21:57] He smiled.

[21:58] Even the Shiva Mahayana Stotra, the hymn which I just chanted,

[22:02] the next two lines say, why does God need all these?

[22:06] And the answer is, he doesn't.

[22:07] He is playing.

[22:09] So, the demons are reduced to ashes.

[22:12] Again by the blessings of Ma Durga.

[22:17] And that's why Shiva gets the name Tripurari.

[22:21] Tripurari.

[22:23] That's the third time.

[22:26] The fourth time is Indra, the king of gods.

[22:30] He was reduced to a sorry state.

[22:32] He lost all his glory because the sage Durvasa had cursed him.

[22:36] So, he prayed to the Divine Mother for restoring his glory, his divine glory.

[22:40] So, one of the hymns about her says, Ya Devi Sarva Bhuteshu Kanti Rupena Samsthita

[22:47] That Devi, that divine goddess, that goddess who resides in

[22:53] all beings as glory, as beauty, as glory.

[22:57] So, she restores the glory of Indra.

[23:00] That's the fourth time.

[23:02] And the fifth time is the first time, but all of these are non-human.

[23:06] First time a human being worships her.

[23:08] This is the story.

[23:10] The story of King Surata.

[23:12] King Surata had lost his, he was a king, in the dynasty of Dhruva, I think.

[23:21] And he had lost his kingdom.

[23:24] But then he prayed to the Divine Mother to restore his kingdom.

[23:28] A worldly desire.

[23:29] But she did.

[23:31] So, and he was the first one who made an image to worship her.

[23:35] So, that's the story of the human worship of the goddess.

[23:41] All of these, and he worshipped her in spring.

[23:43] This is what is called Basanti Puja.

[23:46] So, Durga is actually worshipped twice.

[23:48] The original puja, the original worship was in spring.

[23:52] And that has sort of faded into the background.

[23:54] What happened was, again centuries passed.

[23:58] And then Rama has come to fight against the demon king Ravana.

[24:02] And he worships the Divine Mother for her protection

[24:06] and power to defeat Ravana.

[24:09] And he invokes her, not at the usual time when she is invoked, which is spring.

[24:13] The spring worship.

[24:14] But he invokes her now, in autumn, in the fall.

[24:18] So, this is called the autumnal or fall worship of the Divine Mother.

[24:22] In Bengali, Sarodiya Durga Puja.

[24:24] And that has become, Navaratri Sarodiya Durga Puja, that has become

[24:27] the most important form of Durga Puja in India, in Hinduism now.

[24:32] The worship of Durga at this time.

[24:35] So, because she has been called, invoked, awakened at a time, which is not

[24:41] her usual time to come, this is called Akalabodhan.

[24:45] Invoking at, not the right time, some other time.

[24:50] And this is the worship which we have now.

[24:53] Swami Vivekananda says, anything that you want to accomplish in this world,

[24:58] you have to worship the Mother.

[24:59] It is the Mother's grace.

[25:01] Brahman is fine.

[25:02] Existence, consciousness, bliss.

[25:05] And nothing else.

[25:07] Now, the thing is, that is true as far as it goes.

[25:10] But we are living in this world of, you can call it Maya, you can call it

[25:15] names and forms, but it makes a huge difference to us.

[25:19] Whether you are sick or healthy, from Brahman's perspective, one existence.

[25:24] Yeah, it appears as sickness, it is playing the sickness movie,

[25:26] the screen is the same.

[25:28] And it is a movie.

[25:29] It could be a tragedy or a comedy.

[25:31] But it makes all the difference to us.

[25:32] A tragedy puts us into tears, a comedy makes us love and laugh.

[25:37] Love and laugh.

[25:38] Which one do you want?

[25:40] We have a preference.

[25:42] To the screen, it doesn't matter.

[25:44] It is exactly the same thing.

[25:46] If you have a preference, and we do, we want our life

[25:50] to be like this and not like that.

[25:52] Even spirituality.

[25:54] I don't want my mind to be scattered.

[25:56] I want my mind to be focused.

[25:58] I don't want my desires flowing out in a hundred different streams

[26:00] into the world.

[26:01] I want devotion for God.

[26:03] I want self-knowledge, not ignorance.

[26:05] If I want all that, then you need the Divine Mother.

[26:11] Her blessings are necessary.

[26:12] Even for spirituality, for God realization.

[26:16] Sri Ramakrishna used to call it, Shakti Relaka.

[26:20] The realm of Shakti.

[26:22] Everything in the world is in the realm of Shakti.

[26:25] And including enlightenment, freedom, mukti, moksha,

[26:29] that's also in the realm of Shakti.

[26:30] She can give everything in the world and freedom from this world also.

[26:36] Swami Vivekananda says, His own language, She is the very heart

[26:42] of the law of causation, karma.

[26:45] She is what powers this law of causation.

[26:48] Cause and effect.

[26:49] Good, good, bad, bad and none escape the law.

[26:52] But what is this law?

[26:53] Because Brahman is the same anyway.

[26:54] There is no whisper of this law in Brahman at all.

[26:57] No causality.

[26:58] This law, he says, is the Divine Mother.

[27:01] But it's in her hands.

[27:04] If you want to fudge the accounts a little bit, you can't do it yourself.

[27:07] And Brahman is unconcerned.

[27:10] Who will help?

[27:11] Mother will help.

[27:13] Vivekananda says, she responds to prayers quickly.

[27:17] So father is a little strict, but mother is soft.

[27:21] If you nag her enough, she will give you what you want, even

[27:25] if you don't deserve it.

[27:27] Including enlightenment and God realization.

[27:30] I have known such people, who, out of intense prayer to the mother,

[27:35] they got at least an insight, a flash of this realization of the Divine.

[27:41] So she gives.

[27:42] And quickly, that too.

[27:46] In our day and age, of course, Sri Ramakrishna is known as the greatest

[27:50] of the worshippers of God as mother.

[27:54] And Vivekananda.

[27:55] Our interest today is because of Vivekananda, we are here today.

[27:59] And so that is closely connected to the worship of the Divine Mother.

[28:02] I'll speak a little bit about that.

[28:04] So when Vivekananda comes to Sri Ramakrishna, remember for

[28:07] Sri Ramakrishna, God was always Mother.

[28:10] Mother Kali, Ma Kali, Durga, same.

[28:13] So Vivekananda comes and asks Narendranath Dutta, asks

[28:16] Sri Ramakrishna, Sir, have you seen God?

[28:19] That's what he was going around asking.

[28:21] All great preachers, teachers.

[28:24] And it is a bit uncomfortable, especially if you're a great religious teacher,

[28:28] and you're talking about God day and night,

[28:30] and this young man comes impertinent.

[28:32] Have you seen God?

[28:34] And you have to hesitate and scratch your head.

[28:36] No, but it can be seen.

[28:40] So he goes to Sri Ramakrishna and Sri Ramakrishna says,

[28:45] Yes, I have seen God.

[28:47] Just as I see you, even more clearly.

[28:50] And you too can see God.

[28:53] And so Narendranath is convinced.

[28:55] He becomes a disciple of Sri Ramakrishna.

[28:58] Sri Ramakrishna trains him.

[28:59] Sri Ramakrishna sees that this young man is going to be the carrier

[29:02] of his message across the world.

[29:04] To train him up, to equip him, he wanted to give him two things,

[29:08] both of which Narendranath did not want.

[29:10] One was the non-dual realization of Brahman, that there is an ultimate,

[29:14] absolute, non-dual reality, existence, consciousness, bliss, and you are that.

[29:19] The world is a dream.

[29:21] Narendranath was not interested.

[29:23] Sri Ramakrishna would ask him to read Ashtavakra Gita,

[29:26] the highest text of non-dual Vedanta.

[29:28] And Narendranath would read and say, What is all this?

[29:33] The cot is God, the pot is God, the door is God, the window is God,

[29:38] you are God, I am God, what nonsense is this?

[29:41] And Sri Ramakrishna said, just read it for my sake.

[29:44] It was for his sake actually, but anyway, read it for my sake.

[29:47] And one day Sri Ramakrishna actually touches him.

[29:50] And Narendranath has this vivid experience, undeniable.

[29:53] He finds one reality inside and outside, one radiance, existence,

[29:57] and consciousness, and bliss.

[29:59] The park in front of the house, which is still there, the Hidua Park,

[30:03] in front of Vivekananda's house.

[30:06] There are these iron railings, which are also still there.

[30:08] So Narendranath says he went and banged his head against the iron railings to see

[30:12] whether they were substantial or not.

[30:13] A coach was coming, a horse-drawn carriage.

[30:16] He didn't feel like stepping aside.

[30:18] Luckily he did, that's why we are all here today.

[30:20] He didn't feel like stepping aside.

[30:22] It seemed like a dream, like a movie.

[30:23] It lasted for three days, this vision.

[30:28] After a certain time it became a little less in which he saw

[30:31] the reality Brahman and the world also shadow-like.

[30:35] After that he could never doubt.

[30:37] And that's what he taught here in the West, in America,

[30:39] the Vedanta, the non-dual truth.

[30:43] Nirvikalpa Samadhi, the highest, the deepest absorption, he wanted that.

[30:46] One day he got that in Kashipur, when Sri Ramakrishna was already ill

[30:49] towards the end of Sri Ramakrishna's life.

[30:51] And when he comes out of it, he shouts, where is my body?

[30:55] I can't see my body.

[30:57] And Advaitanandaji, another disciple of Sri Ramakrishna, Budhogopal Maharaj,

[31:01] he rushed upstairs where Sri Ramakrishna was on his sickbed upstairs.

[31:05] Those who have gone to Kashipur, you can see the same layout is there.

[31:08] He went upstairs and says to Sri Ramakrishna,

[31:11] Naren says he can't feel his body.

[31:14] No introduction, what's going on.

[31:16] Sri Ramakrishna says, let him stay like that for a while.

[31:19] He has pestered me enough for it.

[31:22] Let him stay like that for a while.

[31:25] That was one side of it, the Nirguna Brahman,

[31:28] the teaching of non-dual Vedanta.

[31:31] The other side was mother, Sri Ramakrishna's beloved mother.

[31:35] And Narendra Dutta would have none of it.

[31:38] First of all, it's image worship.

[31:40] It is image worship in spades.

[31:43] So there is a temple and there is a Brahmin priest and there is the image

[31:47] of Kali and all very orthodox traditional

[31:51] Hinduism.

[31:52] Now Narendra Dutta was, he was this educated in western philosophy

[31:57] and he was a member of the Brahmo Samaj which was a reform movement in

[32:01] 19th century Hinduism in Bengal.

[32:05] So he did not believe in image worship and the ritualism

[32:10] of traditional orthodox Hindus and so on.

[32:13] Actually the Brahmos didn't even consider themselves to be Hindus.

[32:17] So he wouldn't even go to the temple.

[32:19] He liked Sri Ramakrishna so he came to Sri Ramakrishna.

[32:22] But he wouldn't go to the temple, he would sort of avoid it

[32:24] and he would call mother in the temple Thakur's mother.

[32:28] That means not mine, that's his mother.

[32:32] Now it so happened that he fell on hard times, Narendra Dutta.

[32:36] His father, very successful lawyer, advocate died suddenly.

[32:40] And the family which was so well off plunged headlong into poverty.

[32:46] And it was very difficult for them to make ends meet.

[32:49] I mean the descriptions are so moving, you know.

[32:52] That how they didn't have enough food to eat and Narendra Dutta

[32:57] as the eldest son of the house.

[33:00] He was a responsible young man.

[33:02] It was his responsibility to take care of his poor widowed mother

[33:05] and his little brothers and sisters.

[33:07] He couldn't find a job, he couldn't find a way of making money.

[33:10] And proud as he was, he would say I have been invited by a friend for lunch.

[33:15] So I won't eat.

[33:17] Nobody had invited him, he would go hungry.

[33:19] Just so that his younger brothers and sisters would have enough to eat.

[33:22] He struggled, couldn't make ends meet.

[33:25] Then he comes finally helplessly to Sri Ramakrishna.

[33:27] Because he sees thousands of people come daily

[33:29] to the mother's temple.

[33:31] Whatever they want, at least they hope they will get those blessings.

[33:34] So he asks Sri Ramakrishna, can you help me, can you tell her?

[33:40] Sri Ramakrishna says I never ask for such things, money

[33:43] and job and things like that.

[33:45] You go and ask.

[33:47] And Narendra Dutta says no, she listens to you, you ask her.

[33:51] Sri Ramakrishna says I am telling you, you go and ask,

[33:54] you will get your heart's desire.

[33:56] And today is the day of mother's worship.

[33:58] It is an auspicious night, evening.

[34:01] So Narendra Dutta goes to the temple of Kali.

[34:04] And there instead of a stone image, he sees a living presence.

[34:10] In Bengali, Chinmoyi.

[34:12] Mrinmoyi means she who is made of clay or rock.

[34:15] Chinmoyi means she who is made of consciousness.

[34:18] She is standing there radiant, filling the temple with her presence.

[34:22] And he is intoxicated, God intoxicated.

[34:25] He asks her for devotion, love and devotion.

[34:31] For knowledge, for dispassion for the world.

[34:33] And he comes back, he is reeling with God intoxication.

[34:37] Sri Ramakrishna says what happened?

[34:39] He narrated everything.

[34:40] He says all that is good but did you ask for money?

[34:42] And he said no, I forgot.

[34:44] Oh, how foolish, still time, go, go, go and ask for money.

[34:48] So he goes back a second time, the second time the same thing happens.

[34:51] He comes back and he narrates that same thing.

[34:54] He couldn't ask for money.

[34:55] How foolish, go again a third time.

[34:57] This time Vivekananda knew that it was all the play of Sri Ramakrishna.

[35:00] So he comes back and says I know it is your play.

[35:03] You please bless me.

[35:05] And Sri Ramakrishna said, alright, your family will not want for

[35:09] plain food and clothing.

[35:11] In Bengali, Mota Bhaat Kapur, plain food and clothing.

[35:14] I bless you that much.

[35:15] Your ends will meet.

[35:16] It was a test.

[35:18] It was a test.

[35:22] The three kinds of devotees we read about in the Gita.

[35:26] Artha, Artharthi, Jigyasu and then the fourth one, Jnani.

[35:29] Krishna says devotees, those who believe in

[35:31] God are of four kinds.

[35:33] One, those who are in trouble.

[35:35] They need protection.

[35:37] And they worship God.

[35:39] Help me.

[35:40] There is no way I can save myself or whatever I want

[35:43] or my beloved person, whoever it is.

[35:45] Help me.

[35:46] In trouble.

[35:47] The second one is not in trouble but they want to get something

[35:50] in the world.

[35:51] You know, get money or power or in India, win an election.

[35:55] They will turn up in temples, politicians, just before an election.

[35:58] So whatever you want.

[36:01] That is Artharthi, those who want stuff in the world.

[36:04] And the third one is who do not want anything in the world.

[36:07] They want God.

[36:09] So Vivekananda, who had asked, what was the question

[36:12] he had come with to Sri Ramakrishna?

[36:13] Does God exist?

[36:14] Have you seen God?

[36:16] Have you seen God?

[36:16] Not even does God exist.

[36:17] That's the theoretical question.

[36:19] Have you seen God?

[36:21] So Sri Ramakrishna was testing him.

[36:24] Which category does he belong to?

[36:25] Now that he is in trouble, he really needs money.

[36:29] Is he in the category of the distressed devotee?

[36:33] Is he in the category of the devotee who wants money and prosperity?

[36:37] Because she can give.

[36:38] The Divine Mother can give if you want it.

[36:40] But every time Narendra Nath passed with flying colors, he said again

[36:44] and again clearly that even in his time of direst need,

[36:49] he wanted God and nothing but God.

[36:50] So it's a demonstration in our times of those ancient verses.

[36:54] And then what happened was because of this, Narendra Nath had

[36:58] no further doubt about the existence of God.

[37:02] Not only the limitless pure consciousness of Brahman, the non-dual truth,

[37:07] but that it appears as the mother of the world, that it comes to

[37:10] you as the mother of the world.

[37:12] It creates, protects and preserves this universe.

[37:16] He had no more doubt.

[37:18] He asked Sri Ramakrishna, can you teach me a song of Kali?

[37:21] So Sri Ramakrishna that night, he taught him that song, Ma Tvam hi Tara.

[37:26] Ma Tvam hi Tara, Tumi Trigunadhara, Paratpara.

[37:31] You are the ground of this universe, the universe which is made of

[37:35] three gunas, Sattva, Rajas and Tamas.

[37:37] You are Trigunadhara, the support of the universe on which

[37:40] these three qualities are playing.

[37:43] Paratpara, and you are beyond this universe also.

[37:46] You are the Nirguna Brahman also.

[37:49] Durga Meti Dukha Hara, when you are someone who is in

[37:53] deep trouble, you are the one who removes their misery.

[37:59] Brahman, not concerned.

[38:02] But you are the one who will come to help and remove their misery.

[38:06] Swami Vivekananda himself says, there is in this universe a mother.

[38:10] Even if you have nobody in this universe, she will never, and he says,

[38:14] never, never, never abandon you.

[38:18] Know this for sure.

[38:20] We must take refuge in her.

[38:22] He says two things.

[38:23] Be as children, trust, give up all these, he says, uncanny theories.

[38:27] All your, this philosophy, that philosophy,

[38:30] give up all these theories.

[38:32] Be as children, take refuge in her.

[38:36] Then only are you safe.

[38:39] Trust in her, then only are you safe.

[38:41] In another place he says, if you can, we must surrender to

[38:45] her continuously, unconditionally.

[38:48] She will protect you.

[38:51] Then we will have peace.

[38:52] So two things, peace and safety.

[38:55] You want peace in life and you want safety in life,

[38:58] life and life after life, forever.

[39:00] She will give it to you.

[39:02] But you must surrender to her, trust her, be as a child trusting the mother.

[39:07] As a child who holds on to the mother.

[39:08] Sri Ramakrishna will say you can be spiritual in two ways.

[39:12] Like a baby monkey and a baby kitten.

[39:13] A kitten is a baby anyway.

[39:15] So like a baby monkey and a kitten.

[39:17] So the baby monkey holds on to its mother tightly.

[39:22] And the mother jumps from tree to tree.

[39:24] If you have seen that in India, you can see that often.

[39:27] But it's a dangerous thing to do.

[39:30] Because baby is a baby.

[39:31] If the baby monkey lets go of his or her hold, it will tumble

[39:35] down, fall down into the forest.

[39:38] Because you are holding on to God.

[39:42] And if you let go, you let go.

[39:44] You never ask God to hold on to you.

[39:47] I saw that actually happen before my eyes.

[39:49] Again, diversion.

[39:50] In my eyes I can see that happening.

[39:53] So we have an ashram in the Himalayas, a place called Mayavati.

[39:57] And that was established by Swami Vivekananda.

[39:59] It's about 7000 feet high in the Himalayas.

[40:03] Durga, by the way, one of the names of Durga is the daughter of the Himalayas.

[40:10] The thing, refrain which we chant?

[40:16] Shailasute.

[40:18] The daughter of the snows.

[40:20] Daughter of the snows.

[40:21] Yes.

[40:22] So in the Himalayas it's there.

[40:24] Now the thing is, that place is, there are tigers.

[40:27] Have you heard, every child in India has read stories

[40:30] of Jim Corbett hunting tigers?

[40:32] Tiger hunting stories, we all read that.

[40:34] That's the place he hunted the tigers.

[40:35] That's the place.

[40:36] Champawat.

[40:38] There are stories, man eater of Champawat.

[40:40] So there were these huge royal Bengal tigers there.

[40:43] There were.

[40:44] Then they were hunted to almost extinction.

[40:49] But when Vivekananda was there and for years afterwards

[40:52] the tigers were still there.

[40:55] So there, the point of it is, there you have to sit in

[40:59] a cage and meditate.

[41:00] The human beings are in the cage, the monks

[41:02] are in the cage, the animals are outside.

[41:05] And it makes sense because I tried once to sit in

[41:08] the forest and meditate.

[41:09] You can't.

[41:10] Just a little snap of a twig or something, you feel a tiger is coming.

[41:13] Now, nowadays, when I went, that was 20 years ago,

[41:16] there were no tigers at that time.

[41:18] There were cheetahs and bears which are bad enough.

[41:21] Not cheetahs, leopards.

[41:22] Leopards and bears, that's bad enough.

[41:26] But now, I went last year, I heard the tigers are back.

[41:30] And they are already eating up human beings.

[41:33] So anyway, long story short, I was sitting in a cage.

[41:36] I decided to sit in the cage and lock the door

[41:38] and then you can meditate.

[41:39] It's very, only, there is an ambient sound of the jungle behind you.

[41:44] Then suddenly I saw the whole flock of monkeys.

[41:48] It's like National Geographic.

[41:49] You are sitting and watching.

[41:50] Whole flock of monkeys race across the clearing and climb up into the tree.

[41:56] And there were mother monkeys with baby monkeys clinging to them.

[42:00] They were being chased by a wolf.

[42:03] I later discovered they are like mountain dogs.

[42:06] They are not literally wolves.

[42:07] But anyway, mountain dogs.

[42:07] They were chased by a wolf.

[42:09] And one baby monkey fell down and is immediately torn apart

[42:12] in front of me.

[42:13] By that mountain dog.

[42:15] So the danger of being a baby monkey is that, yes, I will realize God.

[42:22] Why?

[42:22] How?

[42:24] By lots and lots of YouTube talks and reading lots

[42:28] of books and attending classes.

[42:31] And I will sit for meditation.

[42:32] I will hold my breath for a thousand years like the demon.

[42:36] But remember, after all that, he became a demon.

[42:38] He was still a demon.

[42:40] I will hold my breath and all that sort of stuff.

[42:43] I will do.

[42:43] That's the baby monkey's way.

[42:44] You can reach God that way.

[42:46] But there is a danger there too.

[42:48] And the kitten's way, Sri Ramakrishna says, is the kitten

[42:51] surrenders to the mother, the cat.

[42:54] And wherever the cat, you know, the cat catches

[42:55] the kitten, the scruff of the neck.

[42:57] And takes it from place to place.

[42:59] And Sri Ramakrishna gives a graphic description.

[43:01] There is a kitten just says, mew, mew.

[43:04] And the mother comes and takes it from place to place.

[43:06] And wherever she thinks fit, puts it there.

[43:09] The kitten is fine.

[43:10] As long as she has the mother, the kitten is okay.

[43:13] The kitten is fine with the mother.

[43:16] She has the mother.

[43:17] She has no concern where she has been put.

[43:21] So, like that, if you can surrender to God, then, Vivekananda says,

[43:29] one must surrender continuously, unconditionally.

[43:32] Then you will have peace.

[43:38] There is one who is the Mother of the universe.

[43:40] There is a Mother in the universe.

[43:42] He says, capital M. There is a Mother in the universe who will never,

[43:45] never, never abandon you.

[43:47] Holy Mother says, She says, listen, my children.

[43:53] Wherever you are in life, whatever you're doing in life, even

[43:55] if you have nobody else in the world, always know that you have a mother.

[44:01] She means herself or the Divine Mother, Durga.

[44:04] So, that is Vivekananda.

[44:07] He accepts Kali.

[44:08] We're back to our story.

[44:09] He accepts Kali.

[44:10] He sings this song

[44:14] Ma Tvam Hi Tara.

[44:15] You are the Redeemer.

[44:16] Oh, Mother, you are the Redeemer.

[44:17] You are the one who takes us across the samsara, the ocean of samsara.

[44:22] You are the Redeemer.

[44:23] Ma Tvam Hi Tara

[44:24] he sings.

[44:26] There is a book by Swami Buddhananda who describes this

[44:29] so beautifully, so lyrically.

[44:31] He says, the song was wafted by the wind across the temple garden of Dakshineshwar.

[44:36] It was dark by that time, past midnight.

[44:38] Into the skies above Dakshineshwar, across the river Ganga,

[44:42] into the skies and the star above.

[44:46] And he sang.

[44:47] He sang again and again and again all night long, the same song.

[44:52] Next morning, how do we know all this?

[44:54] Because Sri Ramakrishna himself said so.

[44:55] Next morning, many people came to meet as usual.

[44:58] And whoever came into his room, he would point to Narendranath,

[45:00] who was exhausted and sleeping in a corner, and say, he has accepted Kali.

[45:04] Isn't it wonderful?

[45:06] Now, what is this accepting Kali?

[45:09] What does it mean?

[45:10] People, to humor him, they said, yes, I guess it's wonderful.

[45:13] I guess so.

[45:15] It sounds good, whatever it means.

[45:18] But it means something really great.

[45:21] By the way, he would sing that song,

[45:24] Ma Tvam Hi Tara, one more time.

[45:26] At the end of his life.

[45:29] Vivekananda, at the end of his life, 4th July, when all the work of the mother

[45:32] was done, in Belur Mutt, the new monastery, the last day

[45:36] of his life, 4th July, he selected that, Independence Day of America.

[45:40] Deliberately selected that.

[45:41] That day, early in the morning, he was only 39, he was to say

[45:45] that, I won't live to see 40.

[45:47] He went into the temple of Sri Ramakrishna, closed the door,

[45:51] and that day's worship, he did himself.

[45:54] And he closed the door, he meditated for a long time.

[45:57] Then afterwards, from outside, the monks heard

[46:00] him singing that same song,

[46:03] Ma Tvam Hi Tara.

[46:05] Again and again and again.

[46:08] Anyway, so he accepts the Divine Mother that she is true, she is real.

[46:14] Swami Vivekananda came to this country.

[46:19] He himself said so many things about the Divine Mother, about Kali.

[46:23] He said, how I used to hate her ways, I would not accept Kali.

[46:28] But he surrendered me, Sri Ramakrishna surrendered me to her.

[46:32] And made me a slave of her.

[46:34] And now she guides me in every little thing that I do.

[46:41] How he came here, that also is a connection with the Divine Mother.

[46:47] When, after Sri Ramakrishna passed away, Vivekananda heard about

[46:50] the World Parliament of Religions, he felt he should come, he felt.

[46:54] But he wasn't sure, he had no clear command from God.

[46:57] And he didn't receive anything, that he has to come here.

[47:01] So in his dilemma, he wrote a letter.

[47:03] He was in Hyderabad at that time.

[47:05] He wrote a letter to her.

[47:08] Of course, he didn't know where she was.

[47:10] So he wrote a letter to her, his brother disciples,

[47:14] care of his brother disciples at the monastery in Calcutta,

[47:17] I think Alam Bazar at that time.

[47:20] Addressed to her, marked urgent.

[47:24] And then the next part of the story, we didn't know the details.

[47:26] We know the story in general, that he wrote a letter and she blessed him

[47:30] and said you should go to the West.

[47:31] It is Sri Ramakrishna's wish.

[47:33] But the details we didn't know.

[47:35] Now we know by some research which was done by Swami Purnath Parandaji,

[47:40] who is the head of our centre in Dhaka in Bangladesh.

[47:43] So in a talk he said, many decades ago, he had met a gentleman who knew

[47:48] the direct disciples of Sri Ramakrishna, was very close with them.

[47:50] And he heard the story from them.

[47:52] So the letter arrived in the monastery from Vivekananda to her and they sent

[47:56] the letter onwards to Jayarambati by post.

[47:59] Now that night, that early morning, that day when the letter arrived,

[48:04] she called her younger brother.

[48:06] We know when you read about her life, Kalimabhadra, the middle brother,

[48:10] Mejo. Called him and said, go and collect the mail.

[48:15] Sri Ramakrishna came to me last night and said, Naren's letter is coming.

[48:21] Naren's letter is coming.

[48:24] And Kalimabhadra, the younger brother of the mother, he said,

[48:29] but today is not the mail day.

[48:30] Now what used to happen was there was a central post office

[48:32] and there was something called a dark peon, a mail peon.

[48:35] He would come to a central place in the middle of multiple villages,

[48:38] including Jayarambati, he would sit there with the mail.

[48:41] You know when the mailman will come.

[48:43] You have to go and collect your mail.

[48:47] Email is not bad, you should see.

[48:49] That's how you get your mail.

[48:51] Today is not the mailman's day.

[48:52] He is not supposed to come today.

[48:54] And she said, no, it's coming today.

[48:56] Go and see.

[48:58] So he goes and he sees the mailman sitting there alone in the middle

[49:01] of a field, waiting for him with that letter.

[49:03] He said, this is not the day, but it's marked urgent.

[49:06] So the postmaster said you should go and deliver it.

[49:09] So here's the letter.

[49:12] So Kalimama rushed back to the mother.

[49:15] She opened it and there Vivekananda had written.

[49:17] It had to be read out to her.

[49:19] Vivekananda had written about the world parliament of religions,

[49:24] Chicago, America, all of which she didn't know anything

[49:26] about.

[49:27] She felt sad that her beloved child would have to go so far away,

[49:32] in far off foreign lands.

[49:33] That night Sri Ramakrishna again comes to her and says, tell him to go.

[49:37] It will do great good to the world.

[49:39] Jago ter kollan habe, jete bologe.

[49:42] So she writes an unconditional support, letter of blessings.

[49:46] So all these stories, this kind of research was done by

[49:49] Swami Purnath Parandaji.

[49:51] There also the divine mother's will that Vivekananda had to come here.

[49:56] He comes here, he starts teaching.

[50:00] He says clearly that whatever I'm doing here,

[50:03] I'm guided in every little thing by her.

[50:07] Somebody asked him, how do you get all these ideas?

[50:10] You don't see him preparing.

[50:12] How do you get all these ideas?

[50:13] She says, Ma, Rashtralaya, Sri Ramakrishna also used to say.

[50:18] Somebody asked Sri Ramakrishna, where do you get all these ideas,

[50:20] these wonderful teachings?

[50:22] When I'm empty, the mother pushes in more material into me.

[50:25] She is there.

[50:26] And Vivekananda also the same thing.

[50:27] It's like the divine mother would literally tell him what to say in

[50:30] the next talk or the next lecture.

[50:36] This is his guidance.

[50:39] Another thing he says that this is the age of the worship of God as mother.

[50:43] God as father, yes, certainly.

[50:46] God as the formless Brahman, certainly.

[50:48] But this is a special age of the worship of God as mother

[50:51] because of the Ramakrishna avatar, because of Ma Sarada.

[50:54] The power of God especially, the mother aspect

[50:57] of God is especially manifest.

[50:59] You see it in many ways.

[51:00] You can't prove it, but you can see it in many ways.

[51:03] In the last hundred years or so, the liberation

[51:06] and the rise of women across the world.

[51:10] There is a tremendous force working in society and utterly transforming society.

[51:17] Joseph Campbell who went from here to India in 1950, visited India.

[51:22] He writes about his impressions of India in a book, in a diary.

[51:26] There he mentions that women have no participation in life.

[51:30] You hardly see any women going to work in the outside home.

[51:36] That was 1950.

[51:37] Now you go to India.

[51:39] Tremendous difference.

[51:41] The lives that women today have, not just India, India especially,

[51:44] but everywhere in the world.

[51:45] The lives that women today have is very different from the lives

[51:48] their mothers had and tremendously different

[51:51] from the lives their grandmothers had.

[51:53] And that's true across the world.

[51:55] That's true across the world.

[51:57] There is a great awakening of the mother power

[51:59] in this universe today.

[52:02] Swami Vivekananda says, it would do you great good if you see,

[52:06] if everybody sees the divine mother in all women.

[52:11] If you see the mother in all women.

[52:13] What is the secret here?

[52:15] In Hinduism, we divinize our relationships with the human, with the human being

[52:20] and humanize our relationship with God.

[52:22] Notice how we are referring to God as mother.

[52:25] God is mother or father or friend or master.

[52:29] God is master, I am the servant.

[52:31] God is Ramachandra, the servant is Hanuman, I am the servant.

[52:35] God is friend.

[52:37] Krishna is God and Arjuna is the disciple but also friend.

[52:41] The relationship is of a friend.

[52:43] God is mother or father.

[52:45] In Christianity, God is father.

[52:48] In Hinduism, God can be both father or mother.

[52:53] For Sri Ramakrishna, God was always mother.

[52:55] Even after his non-dual realizations, ultimately the one thing that was common

[52:58] throughout his life was God as mother, as a divine mother.

[53:02] Then God can be child.

[53:05] God can be your baby.

[53:07] That is the whole idea of the baby Krishna, the baby Jesus, the baby Rama.

[53:11] God can be worshipped as child.

[53:15] Then God can be your beloved like Radha and Krishna.

[53:19] So these are the human relations.

[53:22] But that's how you relate to God.

[53:23] You relate to divinity through human relations.

[53:25] Because we understand the human relations, now you impose it

[53:28] upon divinity and relate.

[53:30] See the relations are important for pulling the heart.

[53:34] Non-dual Vedanta can seem very clear, very convincing

[53:38] but it can also seem rather cold and stratospheric.

[53:45] Vivekananda said, these ancient rishis, they have taken human thought

[53:49] to such stratospheric levels that human lung can scarce breathe there.

[53:55] You are not letting me live if you stay at that state.

[54:01] In life, how do you relate to God as a human being?

[54:06] Just as you relate to other human beings.

[54:08] You relate to God as a human being.

[54:11] So Ramakrishna says, such a person who loves God as a human being,

[54:15] when they feed their child, they will feel that they are feeding God.

[54:20] When they take care of their parents, they will feel that they are taking care

[54:23] of, he says, shakshat bhagavan bhagavati, they are taking care of father

[54:27] and mother, God and the goddess.

[54:29] So this is divinizing your relationships with God.

[54:34] But you, humanizing your relationships with God.

[54:39] But you divinize your relationships with the human beings.

[54:42] So with your father, mother, husband, wife, children, friend, what do you do?

[54:47] You see God in them.

[54:49] That's why Swami Vivekananda says, especially to see the divine mother

[54:52] in all women, that is a powerful practice for multiple reasons, across many reasons.

[55:01] I will,

[55:02] oh we have just run out of time.

[55:05] On this day, I will pray to the divine mother

[55:10] Ma Durga to bless all her children.

[55:13] We will remember the words of Swami Vivekananda.

[55:17] Many times he said, he said about Sri Ramakrishna,

[55:19] he was Kali, I am convinced of it.

[55:22] Kali worked up the body of Ramakrishna for her ends, he says.

[55:26] And he says, there is a Mother power in the universe.

[55:31] Know that, which will never, never, never abandon you.

[55:35] We must trust in her and take refuge in her.

[55:38] Another time he says, that there is a power in this universe

[55:42] which thinks of itself as feminine.

[55:45] As, and we all of us as her children.

[55:48] We must surrender to her continuously and unconditionally.

[55:52] He says, it's a continuous practice, an unconditional practice.

[55:57] Swami Turiyanandaji, Hari Maharaj, great non-dualist, all his life.

[56:03] Baby monkey.

[56:05] But all his life, if you see the last part of his life, specially when he went to

[56:09] the, when he came to the USA

[56:10] and then he went back to India, all throughout his life, all his letters

[56:13] and talks, you will see it's mother, mother, mother, always.

[56:19] And he says, I am Brahman that came easily to Vivekananda.

[56:24] It doesn't come easily to us.

[56:26] Therefore, I say, mother, thou art all.

[56:31] He says, the best philosophy is ground yourself in Vedanta.

[56:34] Realize you are that, at least know that you are that reality.

[56:37] And then play with the mother all your life.

[56:40] That's the best kind of life you can lead.

[56:42] Life will go on anyway.

[56:44] The body will live until the death of the body.

[56:46] It will go on living.

[56:47] There will be people, there will be things to be done.

[56:48] There will be ups and downs.

[56:50] Past karma will keep giving results.

[56:54] Take it not as, karma, you know, foolish people take this world as, that's

[56:59] a bad person, that's a good person.

[57:02] And it's all their fault.

[57:04] A little more wise person takes it as karma.

[57:07] It is mine.

[57:08] I get what I deserve.

[57:10] It's good karma, bad karma, all of it, it's getting the results.

[57:14] A wiser person, he takes this karma as the blessings of God.

[57:20] For my own spiritual evolution, the mother has arranged this.

[57:24] I am growing and the mother is just playing with me.

[57:27] Sometimes the play can be a little painful.

[57:31] Mother is playing with me.

[57:33] My life is this play I have with the mother.

[57:39] One American lady, sister Devamata, she became a sannyasini.

[57:42] She went to India.

[57:43] She met many of the direct disciples of Sri Ramakrishna.

[57:45] One day Swami Ramakrishna Anandaji, who established the Ramakrishna Math

[57:49] in Mylapore, in Chennai, he was telling her

[57:52] the struggles in his life.

[57:54] He had lot of struggles in setting up the ashram there.

[57:56] And she writes, Sister Devamata, I felt bad such a holy

[58:00] and spiritual person like him had to suffer so much

[58:03] and I expressed as much to the Swami.

[58:05] And the Swami looked astonished.

[58:07] He said, my true life is eternal.

[58:10] This little, little life, let her play with it as she will.

[58:14] It is her play.

[58:15] So we must be aware.

[58:18] We also must be like the surrender, like the baby kitten.

[58:21] This is like the kitten.

[58:22] Kitten is a baby anyway.

[58:23] So like the kitten we must be and be perfectly contended to do our best

[58:30] wherever she puts us.

[58:32] Knowing, trust in her.

[58:33] Because she is taking us towards freedom, spiritual freedom.

[58:38] To see the divine in all beings and to serve them all.

[58:42] I pray to the mother that she may hold on to us.

[58:46] We are foolish children.

[58:48] We may or may not understand.

[58:51] One devotee says to her, children play and they, oh she herself said, Ma Sarada,

[58:56] children play and soil themselves.

[58:58] They become dirty.

[58:59] They roll in the mud and play in the mud.

[59:00] It's the mother's duty to clean them up and take them on her lap.

[59:04] So I will take them on my lap.

[59:08] So we express our helplessness.

[59:11] Our foolishness.

[59:13] Our silliness to before her.

[59:16] May she bless us and take care of us forever and ever.

[59:19] May her blessings extend to all beings.

[59:23] To her children of all races, of all religions, of all nations.

[59:27] Of all sentient beings, human, animals, plants, gods and even the demons.

[59:33] All of them.

[59:34] May they all enjoy her blessings and her protection.

[59:38] Om Shanti Shanti Shanti. Hari Om Tat Sat. Sri Ramakrishna Arpanamastu

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Hindu monk and prolific Advaita Vedanta scholar leading the Vedanta Society of New York since 2017, known for making ancient philosophical teachings accessible to modern audiences.

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In the lecture, Swami Sarvapriyananda describes Sabar Utsav as a festival prescribed in the Sanskrit texts after the image is immersed on Dashami. It involves costumed processions, flower throwing, singing, dancing and joyous, boisterous calls between participants. He argues that the Devi is pleased by this exuberance and would be displeased if it were omitted.
The speaker argues that Durga Puja is the modern counterpart to the Ashwamedha Yajna, the greatest and most elaborate fire ritual of the Vedic age, which has become obsolete. That position makes Durga Puja the greatest ritual practiced today, and it is why the festival is known as Maha Puja.
Ma Tvam Hi Tara is presented as a prayer addressing the Mother as the one who carries devotees across samsara, the ocean of birth and death. The speaker uses it to explain taking refuge in the Mother rather than relying on one's own effort alone.
The speaker uses two animals to contrast spiritual approaches. The baby monkey clings to its mother through its own effort, which stands for disciplined self-reliance. The kitten is carried by the mother and goes limp, which stands for surrender and trust in divine grace.
The speaker answers that the question has both a yes and a no answer, but he emphasizes that God is proudly female in many forms of worship. He cites Mother worship as among the oldest recorded forms of Hindu devotion, including a figurine of a Mother Goddess from the Indus Valley civilization.
The lecture distinguishes between the nondual realization of Brahman as the ultimate reality and the personal relationship with the Divine Mother who appears in forms. It treats the personal form as a path that can lead to the same ultimate truth that the sages describe in abstract terms.

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