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[0:46] >> Mhm, chakra.
[0:48] Grand masters.
[0:52] The path
[0:54] is much more subtle
[0:56] than human beings tend to be.
[0:59] They talk about it as neither doing or
[1:01] not doing. You lost everybody in that.
[1:04] It seems how can it be neither doing or
[1:05] not doing?
[1:07] That's the essence of it.
[1:09] Eventually, you will wake up totally to
[1:12] realize how strong the ego is.
[1:16] Don't belittle it.
[1:18] Don't kid yourself.
[1:20] Don't think you can talk your way out of
[1:21] it.
[1:23] Or just say you're above it.
[1:26] The ego is very, very strong. The ego is
[1:28] the essence of Maya. What does that
[1:30] mean?
[1:31] It means that this world as you see it
[1:35] is not
[1:36] as you appear to see it.
[1:39] It's not like you get to see it the way
[1:41] you see it and then do something to
[1:43] adjust to it, do something to be
[1:45] spiritual.
[1:46] If you're in it, you're of it.
[1:50] It takes very, very clear eyes, clear
[1:53] consciousness to realize
[1:56] it is not what it appears to be.
[1:59] Period.
[2:01] The amazing part is you sent your
[2:03] scientist out
[2:05] and said, "What is out there and where
[2:07] did it come from?"
[2:09] And I swear to you, they came back and
[2:11] said, "Nothing."
[2:13] They did. They came back and said, "No,
[2:15] there are no pianos, there are no
[2:17] people, there are no trees.
[2:20] It's an illusion.
[2:21] There's just this field of energy.
[2:24] You want to call it God? They give it a
[2:26] neater name, quantum field, you know.
[2:28] Call it what you want. There's a field
[2:30] of energy, a field of light.
[2:33] Really, a field of light. So, the energy
[2:35] is light, light is energy. A field of
[2:37] light, undifferentiated,
[2:40] omnipresent light.
[2:42] That is what Einstein, the quantum
[2:44] physicist, everyone has gone down and
[2:47] looked as far as they could
[2:50] with the eyes of clarity
[2:52] and they said, "That's what's out
[2:53] there."
[2:54] That's what it is.
[2:56] The discrepancy between that and what
[2:59] you interact with
[3:01] is ego.
[3:03] You see what you see because you want to
[3:06] see it.
[3:07] Everybody sees something different. Not
[3:10] they see form,
[3:12] but one form jumps out at you and it
[3:14] means nothing to the other person.
[3:17] One tree is so important to you. It's oh
[3:19] my god, I I'm losing sleep over it.
[3:22] And the other person sees millions of
[3:24] trees and that's just one of the trees.
[3:26] And by the way, I didn't mean trees, I
[3:28] meant people.
[3:29] Because that's how it is.
[3:31] You are seeing what you're seeing
[3:33] because you need to see it. You want to
[3:36] see it. It is not what's there.
[3:39] What's there is what the scientists say
[3:41] are there. The scientists are right.
[3:44] What is there is nothing.
[3:45] And they can explain to you how it went
[3:48] from nothing
[3:50] to appear to be this.
[3:52] But nothing times nothing is nothing.
[3:54] And nothing plus nothing is nothing. And
[3:57] nothing rearranged by nothing is
[3:58] nothing. It's still nothing.
[4:01] Example I always give you,
[4:03] hold water in your hand. Just so your
[4:05] mind gives up here. Hold water in your
[4:07] hand.
[4:09] I'm going to ask you, honestly,
[4:11] multiple choice.
[4:13] A, in your hand you have water.
[4:15] B, you have H2O molecules. C, you have
[4:20] hydrogen and oxygen atoms.
[4:22] D, you have electron, neutrons, and
[4:24] protons. E, you have quarks, leptons,
[4:28] and bosons.
[4:30] F,
[4:31] light.
[4:32] Quantum field, nothing, unmanifest.
[4:36] That's what's going on.
[4:38] That you can understand.
[4:40] Your mind can understand the logic of
[4:42] that.
[4:43] It is all of those things.
[4:45] It is none of those things.
[4:48] It is How can it be everything at once?
[4:51] How can it be electron, neutrons, and
[4:52] protons plus hydrogen and oxygen atoms?
[4:56] Well, because we have this way of saying
[4:58] that if electron, neutrons, and protons
[4:59] hang out with each other a certain way,
[5:02] we call that hydrogen
[5:03] and oxygen atoms.
[5:06] Okay? And if the hydrogen and oxygen
[5:08] atoms, on their own, having nothing to
[5:10] do with you, have laws that join them
[5:13] together so that they form
[5:15] water molecules, they form molecules,
[5:18] and your eyes see that as water. This is
[5:20] an illusion. It's not water.
[5:23] But, look at it through a microscope.
[5:24] Where's the water?
[5:25] I'm begging you, wake up. It's right
[5:27] before you all the time.
[5:30] And so, you basically realize, if I look
[5:32] at it not through the microscope, it's
[5:34] water. If I look at it through the
[5:35] microscope, theoretically, it's
[5:37] molecules of hydrogen and oxygen. Which
[5:40] is it?
[5:41] You don't get to do that.
[5:43] The point is, it's not water.
[5:46] And it's not hydrogen and oxygen or
[5:48] It's not hydrogen oxygen. It's not
[5:50] electrons or protons.
[5:52] It's not quarks or leptons, bosons.
[5:54] It's just light. It stayed light.
[5:57] The rest is an illusion.
[6:00] Why is it an illusion? Well, if you go
[6:02] to a magic show
[6:04] and they have you wear a special glasses
[6:07] and you could do it without the glasses,
[6:08] but let's say you wear special glasses
[6:10] and it makes everything look different.
[6:13] Everything's going on is different.
[6:15] What's that all about? It's because the
[6:18] illusion is created by the glasses
[6:20] you're wearing.
[6:21] Well, these hydrogen and oxygen atoms
[6:24] and molecules
[6:26] are being looked at through your eyes,
[6:28] which are made of molecules.
[6:30] And therefore, the way your eyes distort
[6:33] what you're looking at, lie to you,
[6:34] illusion, what you're looking at, it
[6:37] appears to be that these molecules are
[6:38] water.
[6:40] That's the game. That's God's game. You
[6:42] got to bust the guy.
[6:44] All right? He created an illusion. Do
[6:46] you understand that? If you were not
[6:48] looking at it through the exact eyes
[6:50] that you're looking at, it would not
[6:51] look like that.
[6:52] Well, which way is it? It's not.
[6:55] >> [laughter]
[6:55] >> All right? It's not. If I've got these
[6:58] magic glasses and I put them on and they
[7:00] create this tremendous illusion, like
[7:02] our our virtual reality request. Well,
[7:05] which is it? Is it when you look through
[7:07] there or when you pick it up and look?
[7:09] Which is it? Well, it depends on the
[7:11] eyes you're looking through.
[7:13] Okay? Just depends on what you're
[7:14] looking through. So, these eyeballs that
[7:17] got created not by chance, by the way,
[7:21] perfectly created for the game, so that
[7:24] when consciousness looks through them,
[7:26] it sees this.
[7:28] Take the eyeballs out and see what you
[7:29] see.
[7:31] Okay? Nothing. Put magic glasses over
[7:33] the eyeballs, see what you see. It
[7:35] changes. Well, which is it? It depends
[7:39] on what you're looking through. If
[7:40] you're looking through the regular
[7:42] microscope, it's molecules. If you're
[7:43] looking through an electron microscope,
[7:45] it's it's atoms. If you're looking
[7:46] through whatever.
[7:48] But you don't get to ask which is it
[7:50] really.
[7:51] You don't get to say it's really the way
[7:52] I see it through my eyeballs, but it's
[7:54] not the way I see it through a
[7:55] microscope. This is what you have to do
[7:58] with your mind.
[7:59] You have to realize what you're looking
[8:01] at is an illusion. It's not there or not
[8:04] there. See that? That's what they talk
[8:05] about, right? They the third of the
[8:07] patriarchs says, "Do not argue for the
[8:08] existence of things and do not argue for
[8:10] the nonexistence of things." That's like
[8:13] saying, "I want you to argue. I want to
[8:15] debate. Is it electron neutron or
[8:17] protons? Or is it atoms?
[8:19] Is it molecules or is it water? Go on,
[8:21] debate it."
[8:23] No one wins.
[8:25] Don't get into that. Is it there or is
[8:27] it not there?
[8:28] I think already you see there's no
[8:30] answer to that. So you can't build your
[8:33] life around this illusion that you're
[8:35] seeing through your eyeballs. But that's
[8:37] what happens. Because you see it the
[8:40] specific way you see it and because our
[8:42] eyeballs are tuned
[8:44] very similar to each other, slightly
[8:45] different than a fly's eyeballs. Right?
[8:47] You look at it through a fly's eyeballs.
[8:49] You have like 86 different facets and
[8:52] and 8,000 you see little pieces.
[8:54] >> [laughter]
[8:55] >> No animal sees it the way you see it.
[8:57] Okay?
[8:58] So don't think for a moment that what
[9:01] you see is real.
[9:03] It is just what you see at this moment.
[9:06] Okay? And what proves it more, it's not
[9:09] just that you look through your
[9:10] eyeballs. You wished you were actually
[9:12] looking through your eyeballs. Then at
[9:14] least you would see what your eyeballs
[9:16] see. A camera, like a camera. Camera, if
[9:18] you take a picture with a camera all the
[9:19] time, go back to the same spot, it's
[9:20] going to take the same picture. That's
[9:22] what's happening with you. You have
[9:23] behind your eyeballs a filter.
[9:26] Literally, I slip a filter in. I have a
[9:28] many different colors.
[9:30] You put in a happy filter in, everything
[9:32] you look at looks happy. Put a sad
[9:34] filter in, look at the exact same thing
[9:36] next day, it sad.
[9:38] Okay? This is unbelievable. So, you have
[9:40] the filter of mind, which is looking
[9:43] through the filter of eyes, which is
[9:45] looking at nothing.
[9:47] Whatever level you're looking at it. So,
[9:50] you wake up and you realize this is not
[9:52] real. It's just not real, period. And
[9:56] so, what happens is because you keep
[9:58] seeing it persistently the same, despite
[10:01] your filter, although your filter
[10:02] filters it, but at least your eyes tend
[10:04] to see it the same, it comes in
[10:06] and you build a whole thing inside your
[10:09] mind. As I'm going to cry. You build a
[10:11] whole thing inside your beautiful mind.
[10:13] You have a beautiful mind. A mind that
[10:15] was able to build microscopes and
[10:17] telescopes and and split atoms and oh my
[10:19] god, you're such a brilliant mind. It
[10:21] can study the nature of things. But
[10:23] that's not what you do with it.
[10:25] This comes in exactly the way you see it
[10:28] through the filter of your emotions and
[10:30] your stuff, and then you build a whole
[10:33] thing off I mean, it's so big, this
[10:36] thing you built.
[10:37] It's called ego.
[10:39] Self-concept.
[10:41] A mental image of what's going on.
[10:45] That's what the self-concept is. It's
[10:47] not a thing. It's a mental thing.
[10:50] It doesn't exist in the world of atoms.
[10:52] In your mind, which is at a whole
[10:55] 'nother level than this world that we
[10:56] just spent all our time talking about,
[10:58] you have this mind and you have free
[11:01] will.
[11:02] And what you did with that free will is
[11:05] build this thing, this menagerie inside
[11:08] your mind that says this is the way I am
[11:11] and this is the way she is and this is
[11:12] the way that is and that's the purpose
[11:13] of this and that's the meaning of this
[11:15] and just a whole thought universe
[11:19] you built inside your mind, which is the
[11:22] self-concept, which is the ego, which is
[11:24] the ego mind and so on. And now, when
[11:26] you look out,
[11:28] you don't even look through your eyes.
[11:31] Really. I mean, yes, you're looking
[11:32] through your eyes, but you have to first
[11:33] your consciousness has to first look
[11:35] through that entire menagerie of mind
[11:38] that you built. I like this. I don't
[11:39] like this. I don't like what he's doing.
[11:40] I don't feel good. This whole thing. And
[11:43] then you look through it and you look
[11:45] out through the [clears throat] eyes and
[11:46] everything looks different. People used
[11:48] to like you all right today.
[11:50] People used to not like you. Yeah, not
[11:51] so bad.
[11:53] I watched a movie a year ago. I didn't
[11:54] like it. People write us. I read The
[11:56] Untethered Soul 3 4 5 years ago,
[11:58] whatever it is. I must not have been
[11:59] ready. Cuz I just didn't get anything
[12:01] from it. I didn't finish it right. I
[12:03] picked it up the other day. Oh my god.
[12:05] I've read it three times since.
[12:07] And what is that about? Your mind.
[12:10] It is not about your eyes. They see it
[12:13] the same. It is not about what's
[12:15] happening out there cuz nothing's
[12:17] happening out there. It is about the
[12:19] fact that you have built this thing. I
[12:21] wish you would just see its size. It's
[12:23] so big you can't see it. Just like a
[12:25] fish doesn't know it's in the water. A
[12:27] fish does not know it's in the water.
[12:29] Even I don't know if the fish knows. But
[12:30] if they know anything, they don't know
[12:32] they're in the water. Why? They've never
[12:33] been out.
[12:35] So their frame of reference doesn't see
[12:37] not water. Doesn't see water or not
[12:39] water because it's never seen anything
[12:41] else. You have never seen anything else
[12:43] but your mind.
[12:45] Do you understand that? Don't you kid
[12:46] yourself.
[12:47] You've never seen anything else but your
[12:49] mind. When you're kidding yourself, you
[12:50] say, "Oh, this part of my mind's nicer
[12:52] than the other parts." It's still this
[12:53] the same stupid game.
[12:55] It's the same stupid game.
[12:57] It's a game of self-concept. Right?
[12:59] Well, I've grown a lot. I like everybody
[13:01] and I'm fine. And if I have anything
[13:03] inside of me that What is that? What's
[13:05] all that noise? Why is it talking?
[13:08] What's that got to do with what's going
[13:09] on? Nothing. Ever. Has nothing. First of
[13:13] all, there's nothing going on. So
[13:15] therefore, it can't have anything to do
[13:16] with what's going on. We said to you,
[13:17] there's nothing down there.
[13:19] Reality. Scientists have found reality.
[13:21] Newsflash, it's not there.
[13:24] Okay? It's just a field of light. It's a
[13:25] field of energy. And everything's coming
[13:27] out of that.
[13:29] And then the consciousness tries to look
[13:31] at it through this field of energy made
[13:32] these eyes, but it can't even do that.
[13:34] Because in the mind, mind, understand
[13:37] mind.
[13:39] That my mind's bothering me. No, the one
[13:41] who's saying my mind is bothering me is
[13:43] your mind also.
[13:44] Just as I showed you there's these
[13:46] layers of the quantum field, then the
[13:48] quarks, leptons, the bosons, and then
[13:50] the electron neutrons protons, and then
[13:52] the atoms, and then the molecules, you
[13:54] know, it's like there, they're all at
[13:56] the same time.
[13:57] Your mind
[13:59] Your mind has all these layers.
[14:02] I went through this before. Freud broke
[14:04] them up in id, ego, superego, but he
[14:06] never went beyond. You have these lower
[14:08] layers of your mind, and your body
[14:09] layers, and all this noise from your
[14:11] body and stuff like that, okay? There's
[14:14] just a base layer that the mind receives
[14:16] all this stuff and builds all these
[14:17] concepts. I I don't like this. I don't
[14:19] my body like this. I like this taste. I
[14:20] like that. You know, you just build all
[14:22] this garbage in your mind about with
[14:24] your body. You have a body. Why do you
[14:26] need to have a mind body?
[14:28] You just don't understand, all right?
[14:30] You have this body, and it will talk to
[14:31] you. It will let you know things, but
[14:33] you think about it instead. You build a
[14:34] mind body, and you actually live in your
[14:36] mind body, not your body, okay? Then you
[14:38] build concepts, and you build the rights
[14:41] and wrongs and views and opinions and
[14:43] what I like and what I don't like, all
[14:44] right? And then you build a spiritually
[14:46] ego. Ooh, that one's the worst of all.
[14:48] You build on top of all that. I'm pure,
[14:51] and I'm good, and I'm clear, and I'm
[14:53] clearer than she or she is, and I'm a
[14:55] teacher and I the thing, and I can help
[14:57] people. Whoa. Whoa. If it's talking to
[15:01] you, it's not you, and I assure you that
[15:03] one's talking to you. Do you get that
[15:05] straight? That's talking to you just
[15:06] like any other one, and you just keep
[15:09] building these layers of mind is big as
[15:11] God. It's infinite. You were created in
[15:14] the image of God, and one thing he gave
[15:16] you is this phenomenal mind. He got a
[15:18] phenomenal mind. He dreamt all this up.
[15:20] Still not here, but he dreamt it all up.
[15:22] So, you have dreamt up all this in your
[15:24] mind layer upon layer upon layer upon
[15:26] layer. And then when you consciousness,
[15:28] which is God, looks down to experience
[15:32] creation, it can't see it.
[15:34] It looks at it through the veil of mind,
[15:36] and that's what it sees.
[15:38] So, spirituality is not about any
[15:41] [clears throat] of this.
[15:42] True spirituality is about realizing
[15:46] I am the consciousness
[15:48] and I can't see.
[15:50] Cuz if I look down, I see mind. That's
[15:53] what I see. Period. That's a clear
[15:55] consciousness. When I look down, I see
[15:58] mind. Not this mind, that mind, happy
[16:00] mind, sad mind, moody mind, not feeling
[16:03] good mind, not feeling good. No, no, no,
[16:05] no, no.
[16:06] When I look down,
[16:08] I see this ocean of mind.
[16:11] And when I look out through the ocean of
[16:13] mind, I think I'm looking at reality,
[16:16] but I'm not. I'm looking at the
[16:18] reflection of my mind.
[16:20] I don't see a color, I see a color I
[16:22] like.
[16:23] I don't see a person, I see a friend or
[16:25] an enemy.
[16:26] I don't see a political statement, I see
[16:28] what I believe in or I don't believe in.
[16:31] All you see is yourself.
[16:33] You're just seeing the reflection of
[16:36] yourself. And I'll sit there and say,
[16:37] "But my way is right." That's hilarious.
[16:41] If your mind is in there saying, talking
[16:43] first of all, if it's talking, it's
[16:45] already your mind.
[16:46] But if you're looking down at that mind
[16:48] and it's got all these philosophies and
[16:50] views and opinions and politics and say,
[16:52] "I'm right." That's hilarious.
[16:55] That's hilarious. But don't you want to
[16:57] hear what I'm right about? No.
[16:59] How you like that?
[17:00] If you think you're right, I'm only
[17:03] hearing about what you think. I don't
[17:04] want to hear what you think. Everybody's
[17:05] got a thought. Everybody's got a mind.
[17:07] Everybody's got an opinion. But boy,
[17:09] yours is adamant, isn't it? I'm right.
[17:11] This is right. And I'll prove it to you.
[17:13] That's mind. That's just the illusion of
[17:15] mind. And you're looking down. The
[17:17] reason the world is the way it is is cuz
[17:20] we are interacting with it at this
[17:22] particular level and everyone thinks
[17:24] they're right.
[17:26] Everyone thinks they're right.
[17:27] Okay? Hey, if I'm hungry and my family's
[17:29] hungry, it's okay to steal some bread
[17:30] and take some things. It's not wrong.
[17:32] I'm supposed to feed my family. People
[17:34] think like that. Fine. Whatever you
[17:37] think. Whatever you think. You can think
[17:39] any way you want. How can you argue with
[17:42] how somebody thinks? They think any way
[17:44] they want.
[17:45] It's like
[17:46] everybody's wrong.
[17:49] Everybody's wrong. Why? Because they
[17:51] just made this stuff up in their mind,
[17:54] put it together in a way that makes
[17:55] sense to them, and then they're looking
[17:57] out through the eyes and projecting that
[18:00] onto what they're seeing.
[18:02] It's a magic show. It's a joke. God has
[18:04] played a major joke with himself.
[18:07] He wanted to have fun with himself, so
[18:08] this is what he did. He made quite What
[18:11] is a video game? Hey, your video games
[18:12] aren't always so nice, are they? They
[18:14] got all kinds of people getting killed,
[18:15] all kinds of stuff going on. You were
[18:17] left to make video Well, God made one,
[18:18] too.
[18:20] It's what he did.
[18:21] And basically, your mind is that. You
[18:24] did that. Then you project it onto the
[18:26] world, and then you want to talk to me
[18:27] about spirituality. Now you want to talk
[18:29] to me about righteousness. Now you want
[18:30] to talk to me about who's right and
[18:32] who's wrong.
[18:34] As Lao Tzu said, "A wise man never
[18:35] argues." Why? Because they know this.
[18:38] How do you like that? That's why. What
[18:40] are you going to argue? The person's got
[18:41] their mind. That's what they made
[18:43] [laughter] up. See who made yours up.
[18:44] Right? It's ridiculous. Are you willing
[18:47] to realize you are not right or wrong?
[18:50] It's just absurd.
[18:52] The game is dumb.
[18:54] The whole thing. All right? It's not
[18:56] based on reality. It's based on
[18:58] illusion, delusion, and error. Now you
[19:00] understand Maya? Have I talked enough?
[19:02] That's what everything I talked to you
[19:04] about way back in the Upanishads is what
[19:07] they mean by Maya.
[19:09] This is God's Maya.
[19:11] And then you you make it way by building
[19:14] Maya within your own mind. That's all
[19:15] That's only thing that can be in your
[19:17] mind is Maya.
[19:18] Cuz it is interpreting what you thought
[19:20] you saw and putting it together in the
[19:22] way you think you want to think about
[19:23] it. All right, what's your alternative?
[19:26] The alternative is this thing called
[19:27] spirituality.
[19:29] Real spirituality. Not pseudo
[19:31] spirituality.
[19:33] It is realizing, you know,
[19:35] that's true.
[19:37] But we just said it's true. I have built
[19:40] all these concepts, views, and opinions
[19:42] in my mind and fight for them just like
[19:44] everybody else fights and become part of
[19:47] the problem, if you will. And I do
[19:49] project
[19:51] how I see things in my mind out onto the
[19:53] world.
[19:55] That's what they are. You know, somebody
[19:56] sees a snake, "Ew, it's disgusting. I
[19:58] don't want to get near it." Somebody
[19:59] else, "Wow, what a fascinating
[20:01] creature." Which is it?
[20:05] Whatever you say it is, man.
[20:08] Really what it is is the quantum field
[20:10] manifesting.
[20:12] It's the way you are perceiving the
[20:13] quantum field at this moment. So, you
[20:15] wake up. Who's willing to live at that
[20:18] level? It's not easy.
[20:21] Christ said you must die to be reborn.
[20:22] Now you know what he's talking about.
[20:24] You have to die of the entire
[20:27] self-concept
[20:28] and of the habit of looking out and
[20:31] projecting yourself onto the world and
[20:33] then fighting with yourself. Trying to
[20:35] get yourself or stay away from yourself.
[20:37] Just hilarious. The world is a mirror.
[20:39] That's what they say. The world is a
[20:40] mirror.
[20:42] Very few people understand that. It's a
[20:44] mirror for the same reason in the book.
[20:46] I make a thing out of the Rorschach
[20:48] test. I really got into it, okay? All
[20:51] right, fine. There's this ink blot.
[20:53] Well, an ink blot is nothing. It's just
[20:54] an ink blot.
[20:55] But why does it work? Because somebody
[20:57] projects what they're used to seeing in
[20:59] their mind onto the ink blot. Here's
[21:01] somebody fighting. Here's somebody
[21:02] having sex. Here's somebody my husband
[21:04] leaving me. Here whatever the heck it
[21:06] is. See it? There's the line. and God,
[21:08] why are you showing me that? It's
[21:09] painful for me. How did you know? It's
[21:12] like, it's an ink blot, all right? And
[21:15] the next guy that comes in, he goes see
[21:16] something else and see something else.
[21:18] I asked the question in the book, how is
[21:20] it that the same ink blot works for all
[21:22] the patients?
[21:23] Isn't that miraculous? What an ink blot,
[21:25] who painted that thing?
[21:28] It's just a stupid ink blot. You are
[21:31] projecting your mind onto the ink blot,
[21:33] that's why it works for everybody. The
[21:35] world is exactly the same. It is exactly
[21:39] the same. You're doing the same thing.
[21:42] There's nothing out there.
[21:44] Yes, your eyes make it look the average
[21:46] to look like something fine, but you
[21:48] understand underneath even but first
[21:50] that's nothing. It's just what you
[21:51] happen to see. But underneath it is not
[21:54] even that way. But when you see it, you
[21:56] can't see what's there. You can't just
[21:58] see. You project yourself onto the ink
[22:01] blot of life.
[22:02] That's how I want you to see the outside
[22:04] world. It's a giant ink blot.
[22:06] It is nothing. That which means
[22:08] something to you means nothing to her.
[22:10] Just like the ink blot. If one patient
[22:12] walked in who's freaking out over the
[22:14] husband and wife fighting, the parents
[22:16] fighting on the ink blot, somebody else
[22:18] with sex, somebody else with whatever,
[22:20] death. It's death. She sees black, it's
[22:22] death. Why are you showing me right? If
[22:24] they walked in and heard what the other
[22:26] patient was saying, they'd go, he's
[22:27] crazy.
[22:29] That's not there. How could you see
[22:30] that? Hear me?
[22:32] Wake up.
[22:35] Do not continue to live in this delusion
[22:37] and error.
[22:38] So how do you wake up?
[22:40] >> [laughter]
[22:43] >> You can't change the world to make the
[22:45] It's not It's not a question of getting
[22:47] somebody to paint an ink blot that looks
[22:48] good to you.
[22:49] Is it? That's not the solution to the
[22:52] That's not the purpose that Mr. or Mrs.
[22:54] Rorschach, whoever name was, developed
[22:56] this ink blot thing. Let the patient
[22:58] come in and tell you what you want it to
[22:59] look like and have an artist, like one
[23:01] of the sketch artists that the police
[23:02] have, to do the ink blots so it looks
[23:04] exactly the way so when a person looks
[23:05] at it they feel good. How's that for a
[23:07] solution? They're good? Good
[23:08] psychologists? Good psychiatrists? No,
[23:11] you would never do that. That's what
[23:12] you're doing with the world.
[23:14] That's exactly what you're doing.
[23:16] You are looking out there and seeing
[23:17] what you're projecting onto it and then
[23:19] you're going out there and trying to
[23:20] make it look like the way you want it to
[23:22] look when you project it. That was a
[23:24] long sentence.
[23:26] That's what everybody's doing.
[23:27] And there's only one world out there, so
[23:29] they're all fighting how to make it look
[23:31] so it to make them feel good when they
[23:32] project onto it. Wouldn't it be nice if
[23:34] everybody had fancy cars? Wouldn't it be
[23:36] nice if people shared the world and
[23:37] didn't bother buying fancy cars? Okay.
[23:40] Uh-oh. What do we do with the cars?
[23:44] Stop thinking you're right. It's beyond
[23:46] right.
[23:47] It's this thing called clarity.
[23:50] So, basically, in order to see
[23:54] you have to be willing to let go of
[23:55] yourself. But nobody else, I don't care.
[23:58] You're going to sit around and wait for
[23:59] everybody else, you're going to be here
[24:00] a long time. But they'll take advantage
[24:03] of me. How can the quantum field take
[24:05] advantage of you?
[24:07] How can atoms take advantage of you? How
[24:09] can ink blots take advantage of you?
[24:12] When I'm not looking they'll change the
[24:13] ink blot.
[24:14] Okay. You see what I'm saying? Any way
[24:17] you think about it is just the way
[24:19] you're thinking about it. It's illusion,
[24:21] it's delusion. There's nobody that can
[24:23] happen, there's nothing happening. The
[24:24] only thing that's hap- I told you, this
[24:26] is how you get from this talk. What is
[24:27] happening?
[24:28] You are projecting this world you built
[24:31] inside your head out of what you thought
[24:33] you saw out onto that world and then
[24:37] deciding it has to be a certain way for
[24:39] you to be okay. There.
[24:41] Can they take advantage of you? Sure.
[24:42] Just have it not be the way you want it
[24:44] to be.
[24:45] Just have somebody leave, have somebody
[24:46] show up, fall in love with somebody else
[24:48] when you shouldn't. Just Oh my god,
[24:49] there's so many things that can happen
[24:51] that don't match your ink blot concept,
[24:53] that when you project it out there isn't
[24:54] what you projected. Go watch the
[24:56] politics, watch all of them talk. All
[24:59] they're doing is pushing themselves.
[25:01] It's amazing. Just pushing their views,
[25:03] their opinions, to what it is that they
[25:06] need to see in order for them to be
[25:08] okay. And they get very upset when they
[25:10] don't see that. So, you wake up and you
[25:12] realize that's not a game I'm going to
[25:14] play. What game? The game of projecting
[25:18] my mind out into the world, which is
[25:21] what you're doing, and then seeing
[25:23] things that I like and seeing things
[25:25] that I don't. Like you did that. There's
[25:26] no like or dislike out there. There's
[25:28] just atoms. But you projected it out
[25:31] there. Now I'm going to go out there and
[25:33] use my will to manipulate so that it
[25:36] looks the way my illusion wants it to
[25:38] look. Just remember that. Remember that
[25:40] once in your life, that is what you are
[25:42] doing. Do you understand that? That is
[25:44] what everybody else is doing. That's
[25:46] what's happening. You want to grow
[25:48] spiritually? You got to come back to
[25:50] self. Not play around with the illusion
[25:53] of the mind and the concepts, and not
[25:55] play around with what it's projecting
[25:57] out onto the ink blot of the world, and
[25:59] not even playing around with the ink
[26:01] blot of the world because it's not even
[26:02] there anyways. How do you do that?
[26:04] You're not going to do it by changing
[26:06] the world. Because
[26:09] how would you decide how to change the
[26:10] world based on how you projected out
[26:12] onto it? Who you like, who you don't
[26:14] like, how they should be, how they
[26:15] shouldn't be, how they should dress, how
[26:16] they should talk. Just everything,
[26:18] everything. You don't do that. Well,
[26:21] then what? Now I'm stuck with myself.
[26:23] Now I'm stuck with a mind that doesn't
[26:25] like what's happening. Well, maybe you
[26:27] better work with that. Maybe you better
[26:29] cool it. Maybe you better stop
[26:31] projecting your mind out into the world.
[26:33] How? Relax. Relax, then. Don't hang out
[26:36] with it. Just realize it doesn't know
[26:37] what it's talking about. I'm going to
[26:39] tell you your mind never knows what it's
[26:40] talking about. Why? Because you made a
[26:42] false mind. That's like It's like you're
[26:43] never right. Listen to me. No one has
[26:47] ever been right about that ink blot. No
[26:50] one ever got it right. There's no
[26:52] grading, all right? No one ever got it
[26:55] right as to what that ink blot really
[26:57] looks like, right? That's the truth with
[27:00] your mind.
[27:01] It's wrong. It's wrong to have built all
[27:03] these concepts and views and opinions
[27:05] and preferences based on what you
[27:06] thought you saw, which was based on what
[27:08] you projected. I can't even talk about
[27:10] it. It's too hard. All right? It's
[27:11] really sophisticated and it's pretty
[27:12] complex stuff. You project something out
[27:14] there, therefore you like it or don't
[27:16] like it, therefore you build a concept
[27:17] inside about like and dislike.
[27:19] >> [sighs]
[27:20] >> Pretty intense, okay? So, you've got
[27:23] this mind. What do you do? Well, people
[27:25] teach all kinds of things. That's why
[27:27] there are gurus. They teach all kinds of
[27:30] things. Want to know the highest one is?
[27:32] Yuktishwar.
[27:34] Very simple sentence.
[27:36] An ignored guest quickly leaves.
[27:40] There is no faster way to transcend your
[27:43] mind than to not listen to it.
[27:46] Just as you wanted to get the world a
[27:48] certain way,
[27:49] those atoms out there, well, you're
[27:51] interested, I don't know.
[27:53] Because you projected yourself onto the
[27:55] ink blot, then you wanted to change the
[27:57] ink blot so you felt good. Just as you
[27:59] wanted to do that, you want to get your
[28:00] mind to say nice things the way you want
[28:03] it to be, so you feel comfortable with
[28:04] it and so on and so forth. You're just
[28:06] perpetrating the same game.
[28:09] The same game.
[28:11] You're not seeing things clearly. You
[28:13] made up this First, you make up a mind,
[28:15] then you decide how it needs to be for
[28:17] you to be okay with it. Let me repeat
[28:19] that. You make up a mind. Your mind can
[28:21] do anything. You know what I'm saying?
[28:23] There's nothing in there. You're the
[28:23] only one in there.
[28:25] You make up a mind, then you decide how
[28:27] it needs to be for you to be okay with
[28:29] it. And then either you go outside to
[28:32] try and make people, places, and things
[28:33] be the way so the mind's okay. Or or
[28:35] you're very evolved, you come inside and
[28:37] you screw with your own mind and
[28:39] rearrange the furniture and do all kinds
[28:41] of things. What's wrong with that?
[28:42] You're the one who built this thing to
[28:45] start with, and now you're in there
[28:46] saying how it needs to be and you're
[28:48] complaining that it's not that way.
[28:50] That's just absolutely hilarious.
[28:53] There's a mirror. It's perfect. You
[28:55] stand in front of it. You don't like
[28:56] what you look like. But it has
[28:57] adjustments. It's a really amazing
[28:59] mirror. You know, it's one of these
[29:00] digital mirrors. You adjust You adjust
[29:02] You adjust it You do it the right
[29:03] weight, right this, right that, or so
[29:04] on. You step in front of it the next
[29:06] day. Ew, I don't like what it looks
[29:08] like. Oh, who did that? You did.
[29:11] You did it. You made your mind. How dare
[29:14] you complain about your mind? The mind
[29:16] did not make itself. You made it. You
[29:19] made it out of what? You projected
[29:22] yourself out onto the atoms that are not
[29:24] there, decided to freak out over them
[29:26] because You know what? You're not
[29:27] freaking out over them. You're freaking
[29:28] out over what you projected onto them,
[29:30] the ink blot. And then that reaction was
[29:33] so uncomfortable that you built concepts
[29:35] inside your mind that I don't like that
[29:36] and I don't want to look like that. You
[29:37] built this whole preference system. And
[29:39] now you're freaking out over it cuz it
[29:41] won't let you go to sleep and it won't
[29:42] let you be happy and you don't like your
[29:43] husband anymore. And it's You don't know
[29:45] what to do. And you're complaining about
[29:47] your mind. You go to group, "My mind's
[29:49] bothering me so much." That's hilarious.
[29:52] You're doing all of it.
[29:55] An ignored guest quickly leaves. What
[29:57] does that mean? Are you willing to just
[30:00] let it go?
[30:02] It's going to talk for a while
[30:04] till you get out.
[30:06] So what?
[30:08] That's the highest state with your mind.
[30:10] And I'll feel good. And I'll try to I
[30:12] don't like this.
[30:16] People talking at me. I don't hear a
[30:19] word they're saying, only the echoes of
[30:23] my mind.
[30:24] So basically, you just don't listen to
[30:27] it.
[30:28] Now, you may need help learning how to
[30:30] not listen to it.
[30:32] But it's not about listening to it.
[30:34] It's not about picking which part you
[30:35] want to be.
[30:37] It's not literally That's what witness
[30:38] conscious is. Learning to realize
[30:42] I shouldn't be listening to this thing.
[30:44] It's just all part of this mess that
[30:46] we've been talking about. I I spent a
[30:47] lot of time building it for you. It's
[30:49] unbelievable that you're going to listen
[30:51] to that mess.
[30:53] Can you relax in the face of it?
[30:56] I don't care if it's happy. I don't care
[30:57] if it's sad. I don't care if it likes
[30:59] what's happening. I don't care if it
[31:00] doesn't like what's happening. I don't
[31:02] care if it's in a good mood. I don't
[31:03] care if it's in a bad mood. I don't
[31:04] care. I don't care. I don't care.
[31:07] That's how you have to be. I don't care.
[31:09] I understand. I made a flaming mess out
[31:12] of you.
[31:13] And as long as I'm in there and letting
[31:15] you tell me what to do about it, and
[31:17] letting you express yourself through my
[31:18] being, I ain't getting out.
[31:20] The only way to get out is to be able to
[31:23] I'm in here, you're over there.
[31:26] I kind of hear you like the crickets,
[31:28] but that's about as much attention as
[31:30] I'm paying to you.
[31:31] There is no way in the world I am
[31:34] letting that mess that I made because of
[31:37] what I projected on the world and then
[31:38] they didn't like what I I I want to do
[31:40] it anymore.
[31:41] >> [laughter]
[31:42] >> It's too complex. All right, I ain't
[31:44] doing it. I'm just not doing it.
[31:46] If I have but one life to live, I ain't
[31:47] living it that way.
[31:49] And so you learn over time, gradually.
[31:53] It's not going to happen all at once.
[31:55] To let go. That's what letting go here.
[31:57] Now at the state you understand what
[31:59] letting go means.
[32:00] The mind has something to say. I don't
[32:03] care.
[32:04] You mean I have to stop it from saying
[32:06] it? No, I do not have to stop it from
[32:08] saying it. I couldn't care less whether
[32:10] it says it or not. I couldn't care less
[32:12] whether it's happy or sad. I couldn't
[32:14] care less whether it's attracted or
[32:15] repulsed. I couldn't care less whether
[32:17] it likes something or doesn't like
[32:18] something. I couldn't care less whether
[32:20] it slept or didn't sleep. I couldn't
[32:21] care less whether it feels good or feels
[32:23] bad. I don't care.
[32:25] I don't care. I'm mean to it. I don't
[32:28] care. All right, I literally That's
[32:29] that's caring. Okay, I literally I don't
[32:31] care. I've seen enough of this.
[32:33] I've seen enough of what the mind has to
[32:35] say and how it projects itself outside
[32:38] and then likes people and doesn't like
[32:39] people and has good days and bad days.
[32:41] There are no good days. There are no bad
[32:42] days. There are no happy days. There are
[32:43] no sad days.
[32:45] There's the mind doing its mind thing
[32:47] that you made it do and you taught it
[32:50] how to do. You built that thing.
[32:52] And then there's you inside who has
[32:54] decided, "I want out."
[32:57] I want out.
[32:59] You go want to go use your life to try
[33:01] and make the ink blot of the world look
[33:03] the way you want it to look when you
[33:04] project onto it. You have fun. You go
[33:07] out there.
[33:09] I'm not a teacher, not anything. You
[33:11] just go about your business. You have a
[33:13] good old time, but I ain't going out
[33:14] there with you.
[33:15] Say that right now. All right, fine. So,
[33:18] you're just trying to divorce yourself
[33:19] from the world, but what about your
[33:21] mind? I don't care. I don't care. What
[33:24] about your feelings? I don't care.
[33:26] I don't care.
[33:28] They're just the result. The feelings
[33:29] are the same. They're just that Explain
[33:31] that in the new book. The feelings are
[33:32] just the shock they're hitting all the
[33:34] mind stuff and stuff that you built in
[33:36] there causing all these vibrations to go
[33:38] all over the place and you can't handle
[33:40] them. Well, you better handle them.
[33:42] You better just sit there and say,
[33:43] "Fine. Fine." That's the way the heart
[33:47] is. That's the way the mind is. That's
[33:49] just the human state that I built
[33:52] because I couldn't handle things and
[33:53] projected and I already told you. I just
[33:55] made this a mess.
[33:57] I am going to sit in here and relax
[34:01] through everything and anything.
[34:04] Whatever the mind wants to throw up,
[34:06] that's what it does. It throws up.
[34:07] Whatever the mind wants to throw up, I
[34:09] don't care. Spiritual, non-spiritual, I
[34:11] don't want a self-concept. I don't want
[34:13] anybody to think of me anyway.
[34:15] I have no future. I'm not waiting for
[34:17] something to happen
[34:18] so that I can express myself.
[34:21] I don't care. It's not real. If it's not
[34:24] real, why would I care?
[34:26] You understand that? This is what the
[34:27] masters have taught you. Illusion,
[34:29] delusion, and error. Maya.
[34:31] Why would I get involved in what my mind
[34:34] did about what's not there? What I
[34:36] projected onto what's not there. It's
[34:38] crazy. So, you learn to relax in the
[34:41] face of whatever your mind does,
[34:43] whatever your emotions do, whatever the
[34:45] perception of the inkblot is for the
[34:47] moment, you just relax. You fall back.
[34:51] You relax first and then you fall away
[34:53] from it. You fall away from it. Not the
[34:55] world,
[34:57] not your mind, not the emotions, all of
[34:59] it. You just fall away gradually and
[35:02] eventually, if you will keep falling
[35:04] away, it will stop pulling you into it.
[35:07] You will lose interest in it. What did
[35:09] Ramakrishna say? The world has lost its
[35:12] salt. That's not a bad thing. That means
[35:15] you understand it had no flavor to start
[35:17] with. I projected the flavor onto it.
[35:20] So, if I can relax and lean away from
[35:24] whatever the mind is saying, you
[35:26] remember you built your mind. Don't you
[35:28] ever doubt that. God did not give you a
[35:31] pre-built mind. You were given clear
[35:33] mind. You were given God's mind.
[35:35] And you did this.
[35:38] So, own it. You built it, you can let
[35:40] go. And so, you relax behind whatever
[35:43] the mind says, you relax behind whatever
[35:45] the heart does. You just keep relaxing
[35:48] until you're comfortable. You'll never
[35:49] get totally comfortable, but reasonably
[35:52] comfortable with what can get created,
[35:55] for and against. Yin and yang, as it
[35:57] gets created. I want it, I don't want
[35:59] it. They make a lot of noise. You be
[36:01] comfortable behind. If you're
[36:03] comfortable behind, they will cease to
[36:05] distract your consciousness as much. You
[36:08] won't get pulled into it. If you're not
[36:10] pulled into it, you get to remain in
[36:12] your seat of consciousness. And there
[36:14] will come a time, eventually, if you
[36:16] work on this, that you have relaxed so
[36:18] deeply and they have so little pull on
[36:21] you that you fall back. You fall in.
[36:25] You fall away. How about that? I don't
[36:27] call it back or in. You fall away from
[36:30] where you've been hanging out.
[36:32] What is there in the room other than the
[36:34] TV you're lost in?
[36:36] A lot.
[36:38] But it's outside
[36:40] of where you were lost.
[36:43] In my father's house there are many
[36:44] mansions.
[36:46] So, there's a whole universe behind
[36:49] where you're caught.
[36:50] And you just decide
[36:53] that's where I'm going. And so, you keep
[36:55] always working on letting go. There's
[36:58] never a time that that's not what you're
[37:00] doing. No matter how you feel, no matter
[37:03] what's happening, no matter what befalls
[37:05] you.
[37:05] That's what Christ's teaching was, his
[37:07] life.
[37:09] No matter what happened, he let go.
[37:12] That's the world. This world is not
[37:13] real, he taught that. And so, basically,
[37:16] I started with the physics. Then I went
[37:18] to the psychology.
[37:20] And then you're at spirituality. It's
[37:21] just that simple.
[37:22] But your mind, instead of thinking about
[37:25] these ink blots and what you want, it's
[37:27] allowed to think about the physics. It's
[37:29] allowed to think about the reality of
[37:32] what's going on. That's what Vivekananda
[37:34] taught, the Vedantic teachings, all
[37:36] right? Is you're allowed to use your
[37:38] mind for Gyana Yoga, to think of these
[37:41] high-level things. That won't bind you.
[37:43] That will help liberate you. But when
[37:45] you build this whole self-concept in
[37:47] your mind, it binds you. Who's willing
[37:49] to get out? Who's decided, I don't want
[37:52] to live my life the way these stupid
[37:53] people do? It looks crazy. Just read the
[37:56] paper every day. Turn on the news.
[37:59] So, that's yoga. That's spirituality.
[38:01] Are you willing to live at that level?
[38:05] Are you willing to continue to look at
[38:07] the world, which is an ink blot, and
[38:10] project onto it what you like and what
[38:12] you don't like and what you want and
[38:13] what you don't want,
[38:15] and then suffer?
[38:16] Go through all your little moods and
[38:18] things because you're tied into But
[38:20] real.
[38:21] You want to talk deep teachings? These
[38:24] are the deep teachings, and this is
[38:25] yoga.
[38:26] This is what the great ones taught. Do
[38:28] you understand that? Complete
[38:30] transcendence.
[38:31] Non-duality. All the Buddhist teachings,
[38:34] all the really deep teachings, are
[38:35] founded on what we just talked about.
[38:38] Are you willing to devote your life,
[38:41] every second of it, no games,
[38:44] to let go of the illusion that you have
[38:47] created when you look out there at that
[38:49] ink blot? Uh when you walk away from
[38:51] this talk,
[38:53] there's just an ink blot out there. I
[38:54] already showed you it's not real.
[38:55] Electron, neutron, proton, everything,
[38:57] right? You are projecting yourself onto
[39:00] it.
[39:01] I wouldn't devote my life to that.
[39:03] I wouldn't give it 1 second, not an eye
[39:06] blink.
[39:07] All right? You keep letting go, and let
[39:10] go of the model you built, and get
[39:12] comfortable in there behind all of this.
[39:15] Then it will all happen. That's where
[39:17] the Shakti exists. That's where it pulls
[39:19] you up. That's where you feel this
[39:20] tremendous power in the seat of self.
[39:23] You don't want the mind to be your
[39:25] power, and you don't want the world to
[39:26] be your power.
[39:28] Free yourself.
[39:29] Liberate yourself.
[39:31] Like Krishna said to Arjuna, "Be thou a
[39:33] yogi."
[39:35] Mhm. Jai Gurudev.
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