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[0:00] Sarah, I'll give you the spotlight, and
[0:01] I'll have you introduce yourself much
[0:03] better than I can.
[0:05] Um so, Sarah McLean
[0:07] has been
[0:08] on a lifelong pursuit exploring the
[0:10] mysteries of meditation, awareness, and
[0:13] how to awaken to a life of wonder and
[0:16] beauty. Sarah, I'm so grateful you're
[0:18] here. You're an absolute rockstar.
[0:20] Welcome.
[0:21] >> Thank you. It's good to be here. I'm
[0:22] glad you invited me.
[0:24] >> Yeah, I appreciate that.
[0:26] Well, I'd love to have you introduce
[0:27] yourself and share like some of your
[0:29] story, you know, higher level how how
[0:31] you got to be doing, you know, what you
[0:32] are doing and and and what are you
[0:34] doing? How are you serving the world and
[0:36] Let's go from
[0:37] >> [laughter]
[0:38] >> What am I doing? That's a good question.
[0:40] Who am I? That's another really good
[0:41] question.
[0:43] Um so, who am I? Well,
[0:45] I can tell you that I am someone who is
[0:48] in love with
[0:51] the journey, the pilgrimage to
[0:54] experiencing and fully being aware of in
[0:57] every moment my indwelling spirit.
[1:01] And I don't know if I would have had
[1:02] words for this when I first learned to
[1:04] meditate gosh,
[1:06] well, many many years ago. And um
[1:09] I've even thought lately that life, and
[1:13] maybe it's just my age, I'm going to be
[1:14] 65 in a month or so, um
[1:19] maybe life really is a pilgrimage. I
[1:22] mean, we've heard Ram Dass say, "We're
[1:25] all just walking each other home."
[1:27] But I really believe we're just walking
[1:29] with each other on this spiritual quest.
[1:32] At least that's what it is for me now. I
[1:34] mean, I first learned to meditate
[1:37] many many years ago because I first of
[1:38] all, I thought it was cool. I pretended
[1:41] to meditate. That's my very first
[1:43] experience of meditation was pretending
[1:45] to meditate sitting in the back of a
[1:47] trolley car and outskirts of Boston
[1:50] taking a skipping school
[1:52] with my girlfriend, and we were both
[1:55] really troubled children. Um we had
[1:58] parents that were really
[1:59] different and um
[2:02] we were escaping. We were escaping to a
[2:05] world that was promising, a world of
[2:08] mystery, a world of the intellectual
[2:11] pursuits. And we would take the subway
[2:14] into Harvard Square, which is right in
[2:16] where Harvard is, outside of Boston. And
[2:19] on the way in the subway, I would sit
[2:21] cross-legged and put my hands like this
[2:23] and
[2:24] wait for the magic to happen, although I
[2:26] did not know what to do with my mind.
[2:29] You know, I just assumed the position.
[2:31] So, my pursuit uh was really to figure
[2:36] out how to meet my own mind and the
[2:37] mystery of the mind. I used to love
[2:40] mysteries. I had the entire Nancy Drew
[2:42] collection and if any of you're old
[2:45] enough to know what that is, um, I just
[2:48] love a good mystery and I like to solve
[2:49] a mystery, too. And I'm pretty committed
[2:51] to doing that. And um
[2:54] so, I didn't know how to meditate and I
[2:57] went did a lot of different experience,
[2:59] had a lot of experiences like everybody
[3:01] else and by the time you're this age,
[3:03] you've had a lot, but I joined the army.
[3:06] I was married and divorced really early
[3:08] on, joined the army and became a
[3:10] behavioral specialist, which meant I was
[3:12] working with the soldiers in their minds
[3:15] and how their minds kind of um
[3:19] would not become their friend if they
[3:21] were exposed to too much moral injury or
[3:24] horror or you know, stress or trauma.
[3:27] So, I first learned to meditate when I
[3:28] was in the military and um it was just a
[3:31] simple body scan, which we'll start with
[3:33] a little bit of that today. And um then
[3:37] I just went off to gosh, I worked in a
[3:40] psychiatric hospital, where a lot of
[3:42] people who have trauma end up, not
[3:44] everyone, of course, but I worked in the
[3:46] behavioral units and
[3:48] eventually went to college and became
[3:51] um a journalist, journalism major, and I
[3:54] got to really study the
[3:55] transcendentalists.
[3:57] Um, some of you know who they are.
[3:59] They're the ones who sort of
[4:01] went beyond the Puritan religion in
[4:03] Cambridge, Massachusetts, and found that
[4:06] there was something more. Uh, there was
[4:08] this one
[4:10] um, I'd have to say
[4:12] conductor of the orchestra that we're
[4:14] all in, this universe that we're all
[4:16] singing this one song.
[4:19] And there's this conductor, and they
[4:21] called it
[4:22] Emerson called it Ralph Waldo Emerson
[4:24] called it the one.
[4:25] And of course Henry David Thoreau
[4:27] followed in
[4:29] Emerson's footsteps and decided to just
[4:31] go into the wilderness like you, Shawn,
[4:33] and you know, live on the land, right?
[4:36] And just kind of
[4:38] shake off the hypnosis of social
[4:40] conditioning. And um, so I became very
[4:43] exposed to that and religions of the
[4:46] world.
[4:47] And um,
[4:49] when I got I got
[4:52] invited to ride my bike around the
[4:54] world. I had a boyfriend,
[4:57] um, and we decided to ride our bikes and
[4:59] went to Europe first and then went all
[5:01] through Asia and then he got pneumonia.
[5:03] So we stopped short of our at 9 months
[5:06] of riding our bikes from our what was
[5:09] going to be a 2-year trip. And um,
[5:13] riding my bike in the middle of the
[5:15] hottest summer that has ever
[5:17] been on record in Greece,
[5:19] and we were along the Peloponnese,
[5:22] there's a place there called
[5:24] uh, the gates of hell, and it's Mani, m
[5:26] a n i, it's the very tip of it, and it's
[5:28] literally as hot as can be, and that's
[5:31] why I started getting delirious and
[5:33] started wanting to throw my bike off a
[5:35] mountainside.
[5:37] And my boyfriend had me chant.
[5:41] He had me start chanting. He said,
[5:43] "Look, I know this Buddhist chant." And
[5:46] and at the time we didn't have cell
[5:48] phones or music or anything. We just
[5:50] were hoping for the next American
[5:51] Express office and I writ- I wrote down
[5:54] this chant
[5:56] and I would sing it to myself as I was
[5:58] biking up these hills and in the heat
[6:01] and losing my mind literally.
[6:03] And um it was the very first time I lost
[6:07] the mind that said, "You can't do this."
[6:11] Mhm. And just spent each moment, each
[6:14] pedal, each stroke of each turn of the
[6:17] wheel chanting
[6:19] um
[6:20] Namu Butsu yo Butsu u an Bopo Chonen Jo
[6:25] Rakuge go Jo Rakuge Jo Chonen Kanzeon
[6:30] Bonen Kanzeon Nennen
[6:33] Jushin Ki
[6:35] Nennen Furishin and Kanzeon a little did
[6:38] I know
[6:40] was a this was a chant to Kuan Yin.
[6:44] Kanzeon in Japanese is Kuan Yin. I
[6:45] probably botched it slightly, but um
[6:48] Kuan Yin is the goddess of compassion.
[6:51] You know, Avalokiteshvara or Kuan Yin or
[6:55] Kanzeon is this this um
[6:59] goddess of compassion and um
[7:01] it really did help me and I I chanted
[7:04] that for the next 6 months on the road
[7:07] going up the foothills of the Himal-
[7:09] Himalayas up through Pakistan up to
[7:11] China
[7:12] and just kept chanting to Kuan I did not
[7:14] know who this what this chant was
[7:16] though.
[7:17] >> Yeah, you just you just memorized the
[7:19] chant and you something about it
[7:20] resonated.
[7:22] >> Yeah, and it also [clears throat] gave
[7:23] me a rhythm and it gave my mind
[7:24] something to hold on to instead of, "Are
[7:27] we there yet? Is this hill going to
[7:29] stop? Can I get can I stop and get
[7:31] another drink of water?" You know.
[7:34] Anyway
[7:34] >> How old were you at that at that point?
[7:36] >> Uh [clears throat] I was in my
[7:39] mid-20s.
[7:41] So, I was probably 25 or so, 26. And
[7:45] when I got back, my boyfriend and I
[7:47] broke up.
[7:48] Uh I ended up Well,
[7:51] I ended up deciding to move to
[7:53] Washington, D.C.
[7:55] Although, wherever you go, there your
[7:56] lessons are anyway, but as you'll find
[7:59] out in Idaho. But, for me, I I started
[8:03] to do yoga. There was a class near me,
[8:06] and I started to do yoga there, and I
[8:08] would never chant aloud. But, they were
[8:11] chanting om. I liked the yoga itself.
[8:15] And um
[8:17] I ended up long very long story short, I
[8:19] ended up meeting someone who
[8:21] was a meditator.
[8:23] And I had a very very debilitating
[8:26] anxiety.
[8:28] I mean, I would never imagine myself
[8:29] talking to anyone online like this. And
[8:31] the anxiety was so bad, and he said,
[8:33] "You You know, I'd really like to be
[8:35] your
[8:36] boyfriend, but you're going to have to
[8:38] do something about this anxiety, and I
[8:40] meditate. Maybe you should meditate,
[8:41] too."
[8:42] And I
[8:44] said, "Sure."
[8:45] So, I ended up learning to meditate, and
[8:48] that was the beginning of my journey
[8:51] to do making it a daily
[8:54] uh
[8:55] daily routine, part of my daily sadhana,
[8:57] this rhythm that I've taken on now.
[9:00] And it this was when I was about 27
[9:03] years old.
[9:04] >> Wow, when you when you started
[9:06] meditating, was it What What was like
[9:09] the real intention, or was it both?
[9:11] Was it because you really wanted to get
[9:12] rid of the anxiety, or was it because
[9:14] there was hope with the guy, and you
[9:15] were like, "Okay, if this is something I
[9:16] can do for us to be together, I'll
[9:18] meditate." And then if so, like at what
[9:20] point did it something start clicking
[9:23] for you? Because you tried to meditate
[9:24] in the
[9:25] back of the trolley, or whatever it was
[9:26] going to Harvard Square.
[9:27] >> [laughter]
[9:28] >> Like, that wasn't it, but something
[9:29] clicked, it seemed like, this time.
[9:32] >> I think there was a It was three
[9:33] three-pronged uh reason. First, I think
[9:36] it was the anxiety. I mean, I I didn't
[9:39] realize how bad it was,
[9:41] uh even though I had been studying
[9:42] stress and the resulting
[9:44] uh effects of trauma, which included
[9:46] anxiety and depression, of course, but
[9:48] also um I also think it was wanting to
[9:52] be loved, you know? A lot of us will do
[9:54] anything for love, and also because I
[9:57] thought it was cool. I'd heard how cool
[9:59] it was, and the Beatles did it, and I
[10:01] wanted to be, you know,
[10:03] Zen, and
[10:05] I knew how to escape
[10:07] uh
[10:07] my mind in some way, shape, or form. I
[10:10] did not know the ultimate effect of it,
[10:12] of course. I think many of us are drawn,
[10:15] magnetized to meditation, and we don't
[10:18] exactly know why.
[10:20] And um
[10:21] we just there's something inside us
[10:23] that's sort of a we strike a core chord
[10:25] is struck by it, like this there's
[10:28] something to this, and I can have
[10:30] everything in the world, and yet there
[10:32] may be something missing. I know let
[10:33] many, many people
[10:35] um get to the success state, everything
[10:39] they wanted, and they still aren't
[10:40] happy, and it's nothing
[10:42] other than maybe there's a lack of um
[10:46] loving the self, or falling in love with
[10:48] the end-dwelling spirit, or
[10:51] >> [clears throat]
[10:51] >> um
[10:52] not living that extra 180. I mean, we
[10:55] live externally about it
[10:57] 180°, and then we need the 180 inside.
[11:01] Is that right? That's that adds up to
[11:03] 360. Um so, I think it was all of that,
[11:07] and I'll tell you the very first time I
[11:10] sat in a meditation room,
[11:13] and was instructed in meditation, it
[11:17] really made a difference to me. I
[11:19] thought I had this feeling like
[11:22] why do I feel like I've come home? I I
[11:26] didn't understand it. The birds outside
[11:28] the windows were
[11:29] singing to me, my body was relaxed,
[11:33] And I'd never had this state of
[11:36] meditation or of of life before. And I I
[11:40] often try to explain what meditation is
[11:41] to people and I say, you know, it's it's
[11:44] not only the whole myriad of meditation
[11:46] practices that you've heard about, like
[11:48] loving-kindness or mantra or mindfulness
[11:51] or walking meditations, it's not only
[11:54] the ancient and modern practices that
[11:56] you hear about, meditation also refers
[11:59] to that state.
[12:01] It also refers to a state where you're
[12:03] fully awake,
[12:05] but yet fully relaxed.
[12:08] And
[12:10] I can liken it to when you're drawing
[12:12] when you want to reach a goal and you've
[12:14] got a bow and arrow and let's say a
[12:15] target and you pull
[12:17] the bow back,
[12:19] meditation's a lot like that.
[12:22] And then there's an ease of letting go.
[12:25] And that's that's the movement into
[12:28] life, right? So, that's what I find is
[12:31] um
[12:33] Yeah, I find it just really that state
[12:35] becomes now infused in my
[12:38] being. Now, I'm not
[12:40] I'm not unemotional. I'm not without
[12:43] perspectives or opinions. I'm not Zen
[12:46] all the time. I definitely feel like my
[12:50] awareness has expanded to the point
[12:51] where I can see
[12:54] all perspectives and I can see
[12:57] I'm tuned into the mystery of creation
[13:00] as well as the mysteries that aren't
[13:02] necessarily
[13:03] shown to us as living in this culture
[13:06] and in this society. And um
[13:09] Yeah, meditation has been my daily
[13:11] companion for almost 40 years.
[13:15] >> That's phenomenal.
[13:16] >> Yeah.
[13:16] >> I love the I love the bow and arrow.
[13:18] That's that's phenomenal.
[13:19] >> Yeah.
[13:19] >> I you know, I was in the military, too.
[13:21] I I think I forgot you were in the
[13:22] military, but
[13:24] I I remember [clears throat]
[13:25] one of the first things that helped me
[13:27] get into a meditative state of
[13:28] meditative state was actually shooting.
[13:31] >> Yeah.
[13:31] >> It would It was like the It was the
[13:32] first time I can recall as an adult
[13:35] doing something that got me completely
[13:37] present, you know, cuz you're completely
[13:39] just focused on target and then like all
[13:41] that mind There's so much at stake. It's
[13:43] so can be dangerous if you're not. So,
[13:45] everything else has to go away.
[13:47] And I just remember shooting.
[13:49] >> You have to. Yeah, you have to relax.
[13:51] You have to focus. You have to be
[13:52] present.
[13:54] You have to be intentional.
[13:55] >> Yeah.
[13:56] >> That was That was me.
[13:58] >> uh maybe that's not uh sustainable daily
[14:00] practice for some. Meditation
[14:03] could be.
[14:04] >> Sure. Yeah, sure. No, it's not. It's
[14:07] not, but it like that example that I
[14:09] I remember that was one of my the first
[14:11] times accessing that state, the state of
[14:13] just like here, right here.
[14:15] >> Yeah.
[14:16] Well, meditation can be really
[14:18] complicated and I know, you know, I
[14:21] wanted to do the best meditation. I
[14:23] wanted to do the very best meditation. I
[14:25] was very um let's say a brand snob, you
[14:29] know. But if we've if you've come this
[14:31] far in your life, you realize that
[14:33] sometimes the off-brand is just as good
[14:36] as the designer brand. So, I've come to
[14:39] learn that there's so many um common
[14:42] aspects to meditation. Uh the first is
[14:45] that every meditation, well, you started
[14:48] it, every meditation starts with an
[14:50] intention.
[14:51] >> Mhm.
[14:52] >> You know, whatever it may be. It may be
[14:54] I want to just get Maybe you've got a
[14:55] diagnosis or a breakup or you know,
[14:58] trauma in your childhood that's rearing
[15:00] its head or you're starting to feel some
[15:03] dissatisfaction with life and so your
[15:05] intention could be I want to be more
[15:07] satisfied. I want to feel healthier. I
[15:09] want to have more energy. I want to be
[15:10] younger. I want to
[15:12] be more balanced. I want to make better
[15:14] choices. I want to be less nasty. I want
[15:17] to be less critical of myself and
[15:19] others, whatever. I know everybody's got
[15:21] an intention here, and it may not even
[15:24] be
[15:25] conscious to you, but you're here
[15:27] because of it.
[15:28] And so every meditation
[15:31] contains this willingness
[15:34] to do it. You have to be willing to do
[15:36] it, and whatever that motivation is,
[15:38] whatever that intention is that is
[15:40] propelling that willingness. And then
[15:41] the second ingredient for every
[15:43] meditation, regardless of how much you
[15:46] paid for it, and what religion you are,
[15:49] and whether, you know, uh you believe in
[15:51] God or
[15:52] whatever your story is, the second
[15:55] ingredient for every single meditation
[15:57] practice is your gentle attention.
[16:02] Mhm. So, that's it. Your gentle
[16:04] attention. It doesn't take superpowers
[16:06] of concentration, which I used to think
[16:09] it did. Um it you do not need to be a
[16:12] Jedi, although it might help you to be
[16:15] one. Um you it will help you to focus on
[16:19] one thing at a time,
[16:20] and to be more conscious of what you're
[16:22] paying attention to. But in general, the
[16:24] ingredients are your willingness, your
[16:27] gentle attention,
[16:29] and then how meditation differs is what
[16:33] you're paying attention to.
[16:35] Mhm. So, maybe you're paying attention
[16:37] to a mantra
[16:39] or an affirmation or a question
[16:43] or chanting
[16:45] or some bells you hear from the external
[16:48] world or bowls. So, it could be an
[16:50] auditory
[16:52] it could be an auditory uh object that
[16:55] you're paying attention to.
[16:57] It could be a visual object you're
[16:59] paying attention to, whether it's
[17:01] something you're imagining, like the
[17:03] light in your heart, or gazing out to
[17:06] the mermaid light on the on the waves
[17:10] that the sunlight creates, or maybe
[17:12] you're looking at a flower,
[17:14] or the clouds, or
[17:17] you could even be imagining a scene in
[17:20] your mind's eye.
[17:21] You know, take you back somewhere that
[17:23] you loved or somewhere you hope to go.
[17:25] And so, it can be a visual
[17:27] object. So, you have some You can
[17:29] meditate on something auditory also.
[17:32] Something you hear.
[17:34] Well, something you hear, something you
[17:36] see, and then something you feel. And
[17:39] now, most mindfulness meditations are in
[17:42] that realm.
[17:44] How about you? Do you meditate right
[17:45] now?
[17:47] >> Do I meditate right now? Absolutely.
[17:48] Yeah, yeah, yeah. Most mornings. Yeah,
[17:50] most mornings.
[17:51] Yeah, you know what one thing I loved
[17:53] that you said and I want to get your
[17:55] distinction on this, but on the second
[17:56] thing.
[17:57] Where you said,
[17:59] you know, how it differs is based on
[18:00] what you pay your attention to. I think
[18:04] that's a powerful phrase.
[18:06] You know, because
[18:08] from from a perspective of
[18:10] many perspectives, but one perspective
[18:12] of time on Earth, how much time we have
[18:14] here on Earth, then every moment of
[18:17] every day,
[18:18] you and I are paying our precious
[18:21] attention that is that from a human
[18:24] perspective is limited. Maybe from
[18:26] spirit
[18:27] perspective, it's not. So, you are
[18:30] paying in a sense like and I like just
[18:32] like kind of like the visual of pulling
[18:34] out a credit card and paying. You know,
[18:35] paying my attention to what? A mantra or
[18:38] my breath or
[18:40] something I want or a certain state that
[18:42] I want to be in. I think that's very
[18:43] powerful to to say that because it
[18:45] brings it back to the intention. Then
[18:47] it's like, okay, if I'm paying for this,
[18:49] which you are,
[18:50] then what are you paying for?
[18:52] >> The currency your currency is your
[18:55] attention is most valuable thing.
[18:57] It's not even a thing. It's most
[18:59] valuable force or source, and I wrote
[19:01] the book The Power of Attention
[19:03] with this in mind because
[19:05] well, I I want to finish up what you can
[19:08] and might pay attention to, but I do
[19:10] want to suggest that when you're sitting
[19:12] there
[19:13] paying attention to what's say a mantra
[19:16] something that you might repeat silently
[19:18] to yourself
[19:19] eventually you the subject and that
[19:23] which you're paying attention to the
[19:25] object
[19:27] that sort of begins to fall away and all
[19:30] that seems to be left is your own
[19:33] attention.
[19:34] So if you're like me I lived in the Zen
[19:36] Buddhist monastery for
[19:38] couple of years and I'd spend 8 hours a
[19:40] day in meditation at least
[19:42] um
[19:44] sometimes you just start going well
[19:45] where
[19:46] does my attention arise from?
[19:49] Where in the world is that attention
[19:51] coming from?
[19:53] You know you might even ask yourself
[19:55] that question now
[19:57] and watch what your immediate answer is
[20:01] um it's probably something like oh it
[20:03] comes from my brain well does it?
[20:05] How can you express how can you say that
[20:08] when people who have near-death
[20:10] experiences are
[20:11] fully aware
[20:13] and they're fully attending to what
[20:15] their experiences are and they may be
[20:18] brain dead right? So we hear about that
[20:21] with the Richie Davidson was just doing
[20:23] um
[20:25] and a movie on these monks that they
[20:28] would die sitting up and they would be
[20:30] in this Bardo state for weeks
[20:34] aware
[20:35] but not alive.
[20:37] So it's a quite interesting to start
[20:39] getting into the story about awareness
[20:41] but
[20:42] um in terms of so we talked about
[20:44] visualizations or
[20:46] site-based meditations and sound-based
[20:49] meditations and there two other
[20:52] uh categories. One of them would be a
[20:55] sensation-based meditation and there's
[20:57] really two aspects of this. One would be
[21:00] emotions you know the the sensory
[21:04] felt emotion of forgiveness or gratitude
[21:08] or
[21:10] love.
[21:12] You know, just really just this
[21:14] heartfelt that can be the focus of your
[21:16] meditation.
[21:18] Sort of in your emotional body, but
[21:20] there's also the felt sense of breathing
[21:24] of sitting
[21:26] of walking
[21:27] the movement, the stillness, the
[21:29] vibrations, the activity
[21:32] that can is happening right now to you.
[21:36] You know, let's pay attention for a
[21:37] moment
[21:39] to the breath.
[21:44] It's happening all the time. It's always
[21:46] here for you. It's always here. That's
[21:48] the thing. It's always here. It's not
[21:49] there. It's here. Just like your body is
[21:52] right here. Just like your life
[21:55] is right here. And then there's one, I'd
[21:57] say
[21:59] advanced technique
[22:01] that I Some people start with and I'd
[22:04] say it's probably hard to start this
[22:06] way, which is um just simply sitting
[22:10] and welcoming everything without
[22:13] clinging to anything.
[22:15] >> Love that.
[22:16] >> Yeah, I mean, it's hard to do though
[22:18] because the mind is very, very, very
[22:20] creative and charming and says, "Let's
[22:22] plan our future." No, I'm sitting in
[22:24] open awareness meditation. Well, let's
[22:26] review what I said to my husband earlier
[22:28] today. No, I'm sitting here in open
[22:30] awareness meditation.
[22:32] >> [gasps]
[22:32] >> It doesn't require It's like sitting
[22:35] It's like sitting in a stream on a rock
[22:38] in the middle of the stream and the
[22:39] stream's coming toward you and you're
[22:41] welcoming every single
[22:44] sound, sight, sensation
[22:47] visualization, right? Every single
[22:49] moment is new and that is probably
[22:53] pretty challenging for most of us. It is
[22:55] for me.
[22:56] >> Totally. We I led one similar to that
[22:58] last night. But I like the idea just
[23:00] being
[23:01] um
[23:02] I like the way I the word I use is like
[23:03] unhooking. Unhooking from whatever.
[23:06] Unhooking from every thought that comes
[23:08] in, every conversation that happened,
[23:12] every fear or that comes up, every idea
[23:14] that comes up, every sound, every
[23:16] anxiousness about tomorrow or whatever.
[23:19] It's like you getting hooked in or or it
[23:21] can almost seem like it like those
[23:23] thoughts are hooking in to me and then
[23:25] pretty soon it's like
[23:26] whoa
[23:27] here we go.
[23:28] >> Yeah, right.
[23:30] >> come back.
[23:31] >> Super charming. And you know most of our
[23:33] thoughts are linguistically structured
[23:35] so words can really charm our attention
[23:38] and
[23:38] all of a sudden you're off and running,
[23:40] you know.
[23:41] >> Making meaning. It's like making meaning
[23:43] of of it all. Even like you're saying
[23:45] the water and then maybe a fish comes by
[23:47] and he's like what is the meaning of the
[23:48] fish?
[23:49] >> a leaf.
[23:50] Oh I used to love to fish.
[23:53] >> [laughter]
[23:54] >> Yeah, oh that was with my dad. Oh I
[23:55] haven't talked to my dad in a while.
[23:56] >> Oh yeah, I need to call him and then all
[23:58] of a sudden it's not meditation anymore.
[24:00] But the meditation actually is
[24:02] recognizing that you're thinking about
[24:04] fishing and your father
[24:06] and you bring your attention back to the
[24:08] water
[24:09] again and again and again and again
[24:12] without berating yourself, without
[24:14] without thinking you're doing it wrong.
[24:17] Um and that's what creates the
[24:18] meditation or attentional muscle
[24:21] is noticing you're off topic and coming
[24:23] back. Noticing you're off topic and
[24:25] coming back. Again, again, again without
[24:29] a lot of without you know
[24:32] beating yourself up.
[24:33] Cuz a lot of people go
[24:35] doing it wrong.
[24:36] >> Sorry about that. Is that what you meant
[24:37] earlier you said the second thing is
[24:39] gentle attention? Is that what you mean
[24:41] gentle? Is that why you use that word?
[24:43] >> Well, that's part of it but mostly I say
[24:46] that because people go okay, I'm going
[24:47] to meditate and they they're just
[24:50] straining so hard to focus on something
[24:52] when you don't have to and here's how.
[24:54] I'm going to give you an example of how
[24:55] gentle your attention can be and be
[24:58] successful at meditation.
[25:00] So,
[25:02] while you're sitting in you everyone
[25:03] here, while you're sitting where you
[25:04] are, notice your feet on the ground.
[25:08] If that's where they are.
[25:10] Or notice where your hands are.
[25:15] Now, begin to notice what you hear in
[25:17] the room.
[25:26] And now begin to notice the light
[25:28] sources
[25:30] in your room.
[25:36] Okay.
[25:37] Was that easy?
[25:40] >> Yeah.
[25:41] >> Yeah. That's how easy meditation can be.
[25:45] You don't have to try hard to look for
[25:47] light sources or feel your feet on the
[25:49] ground or your hands or listen. These
[25:52] are very natural things. So, what you're
[25:54] doing is you're
[25:55] focusing your attention on uh something
[25:58] and you're using a gentle focus, gentle
[26:01] attention.
[26:03] So, that's
[26:04] I really like to suggest that because I
[26:06] know people go, "Well, I spend the
[26:07] morning concentrating."
[26:09] Well, that's probably not going to
[26:12] really get you where you want to go
[26:13] because what we're doing in meditation
[26:15] is downshifting.
[26:17] Where we're moving out of the
[26:19] uh fight or flight response that's most
[26:23] of us are in at least a little bit every
[26:25] single day the minute we get up. That's
[26:26] why we our cortisol levels go way up
[26:29] because we the body knows we're getting
[26:30] ready to
[26:32] get activated. And what we do is we
[26:34] downshift in meditation and move into
[26:37] the rest and digest response, which is
[26:40] very sustainable.
[26:42] Um it helps to reduce inflammation, it
[26:44] lowers your blood pressure, helps you
[26:46] digest your food, increases, if you're
[26:49] interested in this, fertility, um your
[26:51] immune system gets more balanced. You
[26:54] know, it it helps you think more clearly
[26:57] and, uh, helps you stay focused so
[26:59] you're not distracted looking for the
[27:01] next threat
[27:03] that might be here.
[27:05] You know?
[27:06] >> Yeah, totally.
[27:07] >> Yeah.
[27:07] >> Totally.
[27:08] >> So, my journey in meditation took me a
[27:10] lot of different places and you can read
[27:12] about it in my bio, but in fact,
[27:15] um,
[27:17] I did really
[27:19] want to know what the very best
[27:20] meditation is. You know, I was falling
[27:22] in love with Ayurveda. You know,
[27:24] Ayurveda, if anyone knows anything about
[27:26] Ayurveda, this ancient science of life
[27:28] and longevity, it's about 5,000 years
[27:31] old, origins in India.
[27:33] Uh, there are three governing body types
[27:36] and the second one is, uh, Pitta,
[27:39] which, you know, we're governed by fire
[27:42] and liquid, like, uh,
[27:44] like your digestive fire and, um, also
[27:47] we like shiny objects and nice things.
[27:51] Now, everyone has their own,
[27:53] um, operating system, so to speak, or
[27:56] our constitutional
[27:57] makeup, but, um, I really wanted the
[27:59] best. I always want the best. I want the
[28:02] best for everyone and for myself and I
[28:04] wanted the best meditation, so I went
[28:07] off to, uh, live in India in an ashram,
[28:10] ala Eat, Pray, Love. Um, lived there for
[28:13] 6 months.
[28:14] I ended up going to a Zen Buddhist
[28:16] monastery and living there for 2 years,
[28:20] becoming a Zen Buddhist monk. I ended up
[28:22] going up to to India,
[28:25] uh, to meet with the Dalai Lama and
[28:27] teaching Tibetan Buddhist nuns how to
[28:30] speak English and and and immerse myself
[28:34] in their culture.
[28:35] I went and studied with Thich Nhat Hanh,
[28:38] the Vietnamese Buddhist monk and, um,
[28:41] ended up taking his five mindfulness
[28:43] trainings.
[28:45] I ended up working in self-inquiry with
[28:49] Byron Katie and
[28:51] um learning to question the thoughts
[28:53] that caused me suffering, which that was
[28:55] really evolutionary for me. I mean, all
[28:58] of everything was. It was just like this
[29:00] beautiful
[29:02] uh curriculum that this school of life
[29:04] put together for me and putting together
[29:06] for you, whether you're trying to
[29:08] navigate you know, a change in your
[29:10] career or a health challenge or how to
[29:14] work with your family members and just
[29:16] live harmoniously or
[29:18] um you know, starting something new,
[29:21] moving to a new place, setting up a life
[29:23] you love. It's just all this beautiful
[29:25] human experience of
[29:28] um [clears throat]
[29:29] and the navigating of it, you know, and
[29:31] being kind to yourself the whole way.
[29:34] >> Yeah, I love it. I love this school. How
[29:35] did How did you word it that the school
[29:37] that's being just magically assigned to
[29:39] you, given to you? That's
[29:41] curriculum. It's powerful.
[29:43] >> It is and uh you're not getting the
[29:45] wrong curriculum even though it may seem
[29:47] like it.
[29:48] I certainly thought I was in the wrong
[29:49] school with the wrong people. I was
[29:51] wanting to drop out.
[29:53] >> [laughter]
[29:54] >> I thought I kind of did really when you
[29:56] think about going to a monastery. It's
[29:57] like dropping out of life and the
[29:59] hardest part for me
[30:01] has been
[30:02] um like luckily it's been a long time,
[30:05] but um I I started sort of the
[30:08] householder path
[30:10] um when
[30:12] I left the monastery, I started working
[30:14] for a man named Gary Zukav, who wrote
[30:17] Seat of the Soul
[30:18] and I started kind of a householder path
[30:21] and um that's been 25 years, so. But I
[30:23] can tell you it's harder
[30:25] from for me not to be in a meditation
[30:29] community than
[30:31] most people would think it'd be harder
[30:32] to be in a monastery and meditate 8
[30:34] hours, but it's not. Not when you can
[30:37] close your eyes and shut out that
[30:38] curriculum.
[30:40] >> [laughter]
[30:40] >> And you don't have distractions like the
[30:42] distractions of the world. Is that kind
[30:43] of what you're getting at?
[30:45] >> Yeah, I mean there's a lot you have to
[30:46] do when you're not sitting there with
[30:48] your eyes closed, you know, really. Um I
[30:51] mean certainly there were things that
[30:52] interpersonal situations and of course
[30:55] desires still arose and
[30:57] physical challenges arose and it's a
[30:59] difficult life and
[31:01] um but it was preferred for me but now
[31:03] I'm getting used I've spent 25 years I
[31:06] I'm used to this life now. It's I like
[31:09] it. But I've always got that out of my
[31:10] back pocket like if this whole thing
[31:13] doesn't work out
[31:14] >> [laughter]
[31:15] >> Yeah, yeah. You can go back.
[31:16] >> India.
[31:18] >> What So where did you land with the best
[31:20] meditation?
[31:22] >> Uh the best meditation is the one you
[31:23] do.
[31:25] >> Yeah, I love that.
[31:25] >> you do every day.
[31:27] >> Okay. I had a follow-up question but you
[31:29] answered it in in that in that answer.
[31:31] >> [laughter]
[31:32] [gasps]
[31:33] >> I don't you know I I like them all. I um
[31:35] I teach them all. I I invite people to
[31:38] learn a whole bunch of different things
[31:39] because I
[31:40] I don't
[31:42] I do hope eventually someone settles on
[31:44] a meditation that they can count on that
[31:48] they can do every day.
[31:50] Um
[31:52] for me and mine is changing a little
[31:54] bit. Um I have to say I'm
[31:57] really
[31:59] I'm not that interested in changing um
[32:04] working from the outside in. I want to
[32:05] work from the inside out. And I And that
[32:07] sounds so
[32:08] lingoish but I think you know, working
[32:11] with loving kindness is really great. It
[32:13] helps you to sort of align your
[32:15] personality with your soul uh to to
[32:19] borrow Gary Zukav's saying um you know,
[32:22] these love love focused meditations,
[32:24] forgiveness focused, gratitude focused,
[32:27] they're all beautiful. I'd call them
[32:29] bookends in a way to deep practice which
[32:33] helps you to dive into
[32:37] your own presence.
[32:40] The indwelling spirit that's in you. And
[32:44] um
[32:45] the challenge here is that we want to
[32:47] give it all kinds of
[32:49] um
[32:51] qualities. You know, it's light, it's
[32:54] it's expanded, it's vibration, it's
[32:59] you know, it's um joy. But really and
[33:02] truly, it's it's beyond all of that.
[33:05] It's beyond all of that. It is, in fact,
[33:09] a direct experience of
[33:12] oneness. And you can't think your way
[33:14] there. I wish I wish you could, but you
[33:16] can't. You can't make it up. And I think
[33:18] what's happened to me lately is
[33:21] meditation when I started meditation was
[33:23] just so
[33:24] weird. My family thought I was weird,
[33:26] everybody thought I was weird, but it
[33:28] was so important to me, but now it's
[33:31] it's a fashion.
[33:33] I mean, more so than ever. I remember
[33:35] even
[33:36] looking at magazines and or newspapers
[33:39] and scanning for any kind of hint of
[33:43] someone in a yoga pose or meditation
[33:46] lotus position and um I didn't see it.
[33:49] Now it's everywhere. It's a It's a brand
[33:51] It's a It's a style.
[33:53] And I think the biggest challenge is for
[33:56] people to
[33:58] discerning a real teacher with direct
[34:02] experience of
[34:05] the indwelling spirit
[34:07] from someone who's talking a good game
[34:10] about
[34:12] kindness and mindfulness and gratitude.
[34:15] Nothing wrong with that. It's good to
[34:16] hang out with any of that, but
[34:19] has your life been transformed
[34:22] by your daily practice or you know, do
[34:25] you know that that's
[34:29] can you put that uh in the forefront of
[34:31] your of your style guide. Looking for
[34:34] the direct experience and looking for
[34:36] practices that take you there or here.
[34:39] It's here.
[34:43] >> Love it. Yeah.
[34:44] >> I know I talk about these things and
[34:46] gets to be too weird, but
[34:48] >> No, it's not weird. I don't think it's
[34:49] weird for anybody here.
[34:50] >> Okay. Go ahead.
[34:51] >> If it's weird for you, but you're still
[34:53] here, then there's something that's not
[34:54] weird about it. How about that?
[34:56] [laughter]
[34:57] You know?
[34:58] If you're weird, you already left.
[34:59] >> Yeah.
[35:00] >> If you're weird, you your your task list
[35:02] got more important tonight and you'll be
[35:04] back tomorrow.
[35:06] >> Well, it's okay. You know what? Even if
[35:07] you've heard just a little bit of this,
[35:09] it is planting a seed. It is
[35:11] it is um
[35:12] striking a chord. You know, I have these
[35:14] crystal bowls. They're not here. They're
[35:15] in the other room. I also have a piano.
[35:18] And when I play the piano, which I'm not
[35:20] great, so
[35:21] whatever, but I like to sometimes make
[35:23] up songs and the crystal bowls will will
[35:25] just vibrate right along with it.
[35:27] >> Oh god. That's awesome.
[35:29] >> Yeah, and that's um
[35:31] that's what
[35:32] That's what this conversation can do for
[35:34] people.
[35:35] There's there's something inside that's
[35:37] vibrating right along with it. That's
[35:39] how it was for me.
[35:40] And it started by reading about
[35:42] meditation. That's how it started.
[35:44] So.
[35:45] >> Yeah.
[35:46] Yeah, there's a truth in it. There's a
[35:48] truth.
[35:49] I think in some degree like I you said
[35:51] something similar to this, but there's
[35:52] not necessarily words for it for what
[35:54] we're talking about what you're sharing
[35:56] about. There's not really words for it.
[35:58] Not in the English language to like like
[36:00] the language is limiting
[36:03] to what you're referring to.
[36:09] >> [laughter]
[36:10] >> I should say [clears throat] nothing.
[36:11] You're right.
[36:12] >> Yeah, yeah, nothing. Yeah, it just
[36:14] That'd be a fun one. Let's just sit
[36:16] here.
[36:16] >> Yeah, that's what we'll do for the rest
[36:17] of the time here. Actually, we could
[36:19] probably meditate, but you know what I
[36:20] like to do is um
[36:24] I'd like to Do you mind if we ask if
[36:26] there's anyone that has any question
[36:28] that we that might just be
[36:31] happening now that's getting your
[36:33] attention. I'm I'd love to answer
[36:35] >> since they have a question. Yeah, I can
[36:37] feel it. You guys gals, yeah, what's up?
[36:39] >> Oh, yeah, meditation makes you more
[36:40] intuitive, too. It actually does.
[36:44] You turn down the external volume and
[36:46] turn up the internal awareness.
[36:49] >> Yeah, I love that. Yeah, does anyone
[36:51] have a question or anything you want to
[36:53] throw out there before Sarah takes us on
[36:55] a
[36:56] inward more than we've already gone.
[37:00] >> I don't have bells and whistles in my
[37:02] meditations.
[37:03] I do have bells, actually.
[37:05] >> [laughter]
[37:06] >> And I can whistle.
[37:08] Um what I wanted to say is
[37:11] um
[37:12] I want to start with something I I
[37:13] mentioned, but I want to just
[37:15] make sure you hear it. Um I love to
[37:17] suggest that you have
[37:19] follow the five essentials to
[37:20] meditation. And if you have heard me
[37:23] before, you could probably say them. But
[37:25] the first one is it's okay if you get
[37:27] off topic. It's okay if you lose your
[37:29] attention and think about the fishing or
[37:32] your your plans for tomorrow. But what
[37:35] you your job is to notice.
[37:38] Oh, it's like I'm I'm supposed to be
[37:39] meditating here, so I'm going to come
[37:41] back. Again and again and again and
[37:43] again and even I meditating as long as I
[37:46] have
[37:47] can barely
[37:49] uh
[37:50] say a mantra without a lot of other
[37:52] thoughts. And it's not cuz I'm flawed
[37:53] and not cuz you're flawed. It's just
[37:55] that's the nature of the mind is to
[37:57] think. And and your nature, too, is
[38:00] extremely creative.
[38:02] So we recognize it and we come back to
[38:04] the practice because you can create any
[38:06] other time. Meditation's for meditating.
[38:10] And so thoughts are okay.
[38:13] Be kind to yourself in there. Do not
[38:15] spend an iota of any attention berating
[38:19] yourself, criticizing yourself,
[38:21] or judging yourself.
[38:23] Uh third, don't try to have any
[38:25] experience that you're not having. Have
[38:28] the one you're having.
[38:29] Because when you try, it actually
[38:32] creates stress and is not meditation.
[38:35] Meditation helps you to go from the
[38:37] level of thinking
[38:40] into subtler and subtler levels
[38:43] of the mind's activity until the mind's
[38:46] activity sort of dissipates, gets
[38:48] subtler and subtler, and
[38:50] suddenly you're in the realm of
[38:53] the thinker of the thought, the one
[38:54] who's observing the thoughts. So, you
[38:57] trying keeps you at the level of
[38:58] thought. So, we want to just give up
[39:00] trying and um
[39:03] let go of expectations. I mean, not
[39:04] every meditation's magical. I've had
[39:06] some really
[39:08] restless meditations,
[39:10] ineffectual, it seemed, meditations, but
[39:14] the benefits of meditation show up after
[39:17] you're done meditating,
[39:18] not in necessarily in the meditation. It
[39:21] shows up when you're walking,
[39:24] living, feeling fearless, feeling
[39:27] curious, feeling loving,
[39:30] tuned in, being um
[39:33] intuitive,
[39:35] feeling like you're at home in your own
[39:37] body,
[39:39] feeling hopeful.
[39:41] You know, just I think that's how you
[39:43] know meditation's working and um
[39:46] what else? Oh, yeah, we're going to
[39:48] meditate for about How long do you
[39:49] normally meditate on these calls, Sean?
[39:52] >> Like 2 or 3 hours.
[39:54] >> [laughter]
[39:55] >> Well, I'm game, but uh
[39:57] I think other people have to
[39:58] go and address [clears throat] their
[40:00] lives. Unless you're in a monastery,
[40:01] this is true.
[40:02] >> Yeah.
[40:03] >> Unless you're in a retreat or in some
[40:05] sort of
[40:07] contemplative community, it's probably
[40:09] not that great to meditate too long
[40:11] every day.
[40:12] >> Mhm.
[40:12] >> You know, you want to in you want to
[40:15] have a rhythm of rest, activity, rest,
[40:18] and activity. And while we're on that
[40:19] subject, the first time of day the first
[40:21] time to meditate is right in the
[40:23] beginning when you get up. Even though
[40:25] you're fully relaxed, maybe, it helps
[40:28] you to become less reactive, more
[40:31] responsive to your day.
[40:33] And then the next best time is what I
[40:35] call happy hour.
[40:37] >> Happy hour.
[40:39] >> [laughter]
[40:40] >> Not that you're necessarily happy, but
[40:42] you know, whatever it is you like I
[40:43] mean, if you like to go and have a glass
[40:45] of wine, or if you like to watch a
[40:47] movie, or if you like to,
[40:49] you know, go go to the gym. That's sort
[40:52] of that junction point between
[40:54] daytime and evening, between 4:00 and
[40:57] 6:00. Not for 2 hours, but that's a
[40:58] great time to meditate. It's the
[41:01] lightest time. It's very naturally
[41:03] spiritual time. And that's why you get
[41:05] tired at that time, too. Because um
[41:08] there's not a lot of stable qualities to
[41:11] the time between 4:00 and 6:00, and 4:00
[41:13] and 6:00 in the morning, too.
[41:15] Let's see if Do you think there's any
[41:17] question? Just lots of emojis. Not weird
[41:21] at all. Thank you.
[41:23] >> anyone say anything.
[41:24] Okay, well, as long as
[41:26] as long as you want to go is fine. I'll
[41:28] leave that up to you. It's your process,
[41:30] so I trust you on that.
[41:31] >> Well, we've already been chatting here
[41:34] for what?
[41:35] I can 45 minutes. I can talk all day, so
[41:38] you don't you know. Meanwhile, I think
[41:40] we'll just do a short one.
[41:43] >> I just want to share this cuz like on
[41:45] when you're talking about um
[41:48] you know, the essentials, your
[41:50] essentials, and like going deeper you're
[41:52] like going deeper and deeper and getting
[41:53] into the deeper layers. This is such a
[41:55] silly thing, but it just popped in.
[41:57] You know, we're I walked [clears throat]
[41:59] out my wife was sitting on the on out on
[42:00] the balcony a couple nights ago, and she
[42:02] was out there for hours. And I was
[42:05] working, and I I went out, and it was
[42:08] dark.
[42:09] She'd been sitting out there, and she
[42:11] goes,
[42:13] "The sheep are talking to each other
[42:15] like crazy tonight." You know, cuz the
[42:18] neighbors all have like sheep and goats
[42:20] and horse and chickens and roosters and
[42:22] like all that.
[42:24] And I couldn't hear it.
[42:26] And like I I was only out there for a
[42:28] moment, you know, I walked out.
[42:31] She said that,
[42:33] didn't hear it, and I walked back in.
[42:34] And even the next morning, she goes,
[42:36] "You couldn't hear the sheep talking to
[42:37] each other. They were going crazy last
[42:39] night."
[42:40] And then like I got I I got it cuz I go
[42:42] out there, too, and I sit out there in
[42:44] the mornings, I sit out there at night,
[42:45] and then it's like once I settle in,
[42:48] then all of a sudden I hear all this
[42:50] stuff that I couldn't hear, but it was
[42:53] always there. They're all on these
[42:55] animals are all talking to each other
[42:56] all day, and like I don't even hear it
[42:58] unless I get out there and get through
[43:00] the mind and the busyness, and then
[43:02] pretty soon
[43:03] it's like, "Oh my god, there's a
[43:04] conversation happening." And then
[43:06] there's the coyotes, and then
[43:08] So, anyway, I I just like felt like a
[43:09] analogy to what you're saying, like
[43:12] getting to the sitting long enough to
[43:14] get into the
[43:15] deeper stuff that's already happening in
[43:17] here, the thoughts, the the the
[43:18] guidance, the direction.
[43:20] All of that's already there, and like
[43:22] this is in part why we why I meditate,
[43:25] so.
[43:26] >> Nice. Well, that's expanded awareness.
[43:29] It's not something lofty. It is tuning
[43:31] into the subtleties, whether it's
[43:34] internal or external subtleties of
[43:37] the sounds of creation, the universe of
[43:40] creation, whether you're listening to
[43:41] birds or listening to the wind or
[43:44] listening to the waves.
[43:46] And um
[43:47] I don't know the exact quote, but I've
[43:50] heard the doorway to the infinite is
[43:52] through the cleansed
[43:54] doors of perception, something like
[43:56] that. I think it's Aldous Huxley.
[43:59] Um but it's really when we've got so
[44:02] much noise, whether it's digital noise
[44:04] or physical noise or too much activity
[44:07] or
[44:08] too many pressures, it will keep us from
[44:11] tuning into our own
[44:13] internal yums and yucks, and
[44:15] interoception, tuning into your body
[44:17] signals of comfort and discomfort, and
[44:20] as well as tuning into the beauty
[44:23] and wonder all around you.
[44:25] >> I'm on board. All right, Sarah, I'll
[44:26] give it to you. I'll go on mute. You
[44:29] You take us away, and then we can do a
[44:30] Q&A afterward and
[44:32] go from there. Oh, the fifth essential.
[44:34] Okay, thank you.
[44:35] Uh Andrea has just asked this.
[44:37] >> Oh, yeah.
[44:37] >> Um
[44:40] The fifth essential is to stick with the
[44:43] time that you've allotted to meditate.
[44:45] So, speaking of time, let's meditate for
[44:47] about 12 minutes or so today. I'll I do
[44:50] my best to keep track of the time,
[44:52] although I'm tend to go into the
[44:53] meditation myself. So, So, you
[44:56] predetermine how long you're going to
[44:57] meditate for, and then you stick with
[45:00] that whole time. And that is important
[45:02] because the mind is like, "Squirrel!"
[45:05] or whatever it is, and it wants to go,
[45:07] "I've got to check my email. I've got to
[45:09] return that call. I've got to
[45:10] get cooking or whatever." So, if you can
[45:13] commit
[45:15] to a particular period of time, whether
[45:17] it's 5 minutes, 10 minutes, 12 minutes.
[45:19] I do 22 minutes twice a day.
[45:22] Uh some people do more. Some people do
[45:24] less. And it doesn't matter as long as
[45:25] you commit to
[45:27] it regularly. So, that's a good
[45:28] question. Thank you, Andrea.
[45:31] And yes, um meditation's not the same
[45:34] for anyone.
[45:36] Um it's We're all going to have our own
[45:38] journey. Just like your life is your
[45:40] journey. Your life is your pilgrimage.
[45:43] And I'm glad it's taking you here.
[45:45] So, sitting comfortably, um you Some
[45:47] people like to lie down. I prefer
[45:49] upright because what we're doing is
[45:52] creating a new way of being,
[45:55] where you're relaxed, yet engaged, like
[45:57] your wife sitting on the balcony,
[46:00] relaxed and engaged with what you're
[46:03] listening to, what you're saying, what
[46:04] you're doing, what you're in this case
[46:06] meditating on.
[46:09] Ideally, you sit relatively still. Your
[46:11] eyes can be closed or you can be gazing
[46:13] toward the ground.
[46:17] And finding a dignified upright posture,
[46:20] comfort is key.
[46:23] Find a way to be comfortable in the
[46:25] space you're in.
[46:29] And I'm going to sound a bell.
[46:31] I hope you can hear.
[46:35] >> [music]
[46:43] [music]
[46:51] [music]
[47:03] >> Begin to take some deeper breaths
[47:05] through your nose.
[47:09] At your own pace, breathing in deeply
[47:13] and exhaling completely.
[47:22] Letting go of any baggage you might be
[47:24] carrying,
[47:26] worries you might have or
[47:29] plans you need to make.
[47:31] Being here as you breathe in
[47:33] and out a little more deeply than usual
[47:38] allows the body to relax.
[47:50] Breathing in and out and noticing the
[47:52] sensations
[47:54] of breathing.
[48:00] >> Being mindful of the way the body
[48:01] responds to the breath.
[48:05] As the ribs expand and contract.
[48:17] The chest rises and falls.
[48:28] You can let your breath return to its
[48:30] natural rhythm and depth.
[48:39] And as you're sitting here
[48:41] comfortably with your eyes closed
[48:44] you might begin to notice you're a
[48:46] little more aware of the sounds in your
[48:48] environment.
[48:54] So begin to welcome everything you hear.
[49:04] No need to judge the sounds or make
[49:05] meaning of the sounds.
[49:12] Simply notice the sound of the sounds.
[49:34] Welcoming everything and resisting
[49:36] nothing.
[49:40] And noticing how some sounds arise from
[49:42] the silence
[49:44] and return to the silence
[49:46] just like my voice.
[50:01] >> Begin to tune into any sounds you might
[50:03] hear internally now.
[50:14] Perhaps you hear your heartbeat or your
[50:16] breath.
[50:20] Or maybe you hear nothing at all.
[50:34] Welcoming everything and resisting
[50:36] nothing.
[50:43] Begin to follow your breath.
[50:47] Noticing the sensation of inhaling the
[50:49] fresh air
[50:52] as it moves through the back of your
[50:54] throat and into your lungs.
[50:58] And exhaling the warmer breath
[51:03] as you exhale out of your nostrils.
[51:15] There's no need to control or regulate
[51:17] your breath. Simply allow your breath
[51:20] and its sensations to charm your
[51:22] attention.
[51:37] Notice the pauses
[51:39] after the exhale.
[51:43] The pause
[51:44] after the inhale.
[52:00] Becoming aware of the inhale and the
[52:03] exhale.
[52:05] You might even silently say in
[52:08] or I'm aware I'm breathing in on the
[52:10] inhale.
[52:13] Or out.
[52:14] I am aware I am breathing out as I
[52:17] exhale.
[52:59] Whenever the mind drifts away
[53:02] to another time and place, come right
[53:04] back here to your body
[53:06] and to your breath
[53:08] which are always right here, right now.
[53:29] And as you continue to breathe
[53:31] naturally, begin to scan your body now.
[53:36] Letting go of any stress or tension in
[53:38] your face.
[53:44] Your throat.
[53:50] Your shoulders.
[53:58] Letting your arms hang naturally.
[54:01] Hands relaxed.
[54:09] Feel the support of the chair or the
[54:11] cushion beneath you.
[54:18] Softening your belly.
[54:22] And your hips, your pelvis.
[54:37] Noticing your legs.
[54:42] And any areas where your body meets the
[54:44] floor.
[54:54] Completely surrendering to this moment.
[54:58] And all the sensations and
[55:01] of breathing and sitting and being
[55:03] alive.
[55:22] Notice the stillness that's here.
[55:27] The pauses between the breaths.
[55:31] The resting in this place.
[55:48] >> And tune in now to movements.
[55:57] The movement of the breath.
[56:07] The movement of the body in response to
[56:09] the breath.
[56:21] Perhaps you sense your heartbeat.
[56:23] Or your pulse.
[56:38] Or perhaps you feel the subtle vibration
[56:40] of being alive.
[57:16] Whenever your mind drifts away, come
[57:18] back here.
[57:21] Come back to your body and to your
[57:23] breath.
[57:45] >> There's nothing special that's supposed
[57:47] to happen.
[57:50] There's no one way you should be
[57:51] feeling.
[58:09] We'll meditate like this for another
[58:11] minute or two, and I'll keep track of
[58:12] the time.
[1:00:00] >> And keeping your eyes closed,
[1:00:04] I invite you to silently say,
[1:00:07] "I am."
[1:00:09] followed by your full name.
[1:00:21] You might even place your hands on your
[1:00:23] heart.
[1:00:34] And now,
[1:00:35] you can silently say,
[1:00:37] "Your
[1:00:38] I am." followed by your first name.
[1:01:03] And now,
[1:01:05] you can silently say, "I am." followed
[1:01:08] by a nickname,
[1:01:10] or a name someone calls you,
[1:01:13] a pet name.
[1:01:37] >> And now
[1:01:39] you can silently say I am.
[1:02:02] And now you can rest
[1:02:05] in the experience
[1:02:07] of being.
[1:02:13] Rest in your I am
[1:02:16] before conditions.
[1:03:00] Your hands are on your heart, you can
[1:03:01] let them rest in your lap.
[1:03:14] And rest in being
[1:03:22] Before name and form.
[1:03:48] And as you hear the bell, I'm going to
[1:03:50] invite you to sit with your eyes closed
[1:03:53] as our meditation comes to a close.
[1:03:59] It's always important to come out of
[1:04:00] meditation slowly, even if you don't
[1:04:03] think you went very deep.
[1:04:08] >> [music]
[1:04:15] [music]
[1:04:23] [music]
[1:04:35] >> You might reflect with your eyes closed
[1:04:37] on
[1:04:38] Oops. On your intention for being here.
[1:04:49] And imagine that you got what you came
[1:04:51] for.
[1:04:59] You might take some deeper breaths or
[1:05:01] raise your hands into the space around
[1:05:03] you and above you.
[1:05:07] Keeping your eyes closed as long as you
[1:05:09] like.
[1:05:10] It's always important to take this
[1:05:12] integration period
[1:05:15] between the state of meditation and the
[1:05:17] waking state,
[1:05:19] which is very real.
[1:05:24] Begin to tune into the sounds around
[1:05:26] you, the body. You might move it a
[1:05:28] little bit.
[1:05:31] Deepening your breath.
[1:05:45] Bring a smile to your lips, and then
[1:05:47] open your eyes when you feel you'd like
[1:05:49] to do that.
[1:05:55] And appreciate yourself
[1:05:57] for
[1:05:58] loving yourself in this way,
[1:06:01] downshifting,
[1:06:03] connecting to the deepest part of you.
[1:06:06] I say the benefits show up when you're
[1:06:08] not meditating.
[1:06:10] You can be a little sensitive, so you
[1:06:13] might not want to
[1:06:15] get into
[1:06:16] busyness right away. You might want to
[1:06:18] take it easy, maybe
[1:06:21] go stand outside and look at the sky,
[1:06:24] listen to the coyotes, the sheep, the
[1:06:26] birds, the traffic.
[1:06:31] So, thank you for sharing uh
[1:06:34] this time with me.
[1:06:36] There's so much more I want to talk
[1:06:38] about, um but if you come to my
[1:06:41] meditations, we can talk about it.
[1:06:44] Thank you, Shawn. How are you feeling?
[1:06:47] >> I feel phenomenal. I went
[1:06:50] on a on a ride. So, thank thank you.
[1:06:53] Appreciate that. I needed that. It was
[1:06:56] It was phenomenal. I feel great.
[1:06:58] >> I like to say you clear your browser,
[1:07:00] you know, you um
[1:07:01] >> Yeah.
[1:07:02] >> What is it? You defrag your hard drive?
[1:07:05] >> Yeah.
[1:07:05] >> [laughter]
[1:07:06] >> Yeah, exactly.
[1:07:07] >> For people in the digital world like
[1:07:08] you.
[1:07:09] >> Yeah.
[1:07:10] Yeah, I appreciate you, Sarah. I'd love
[1:07:12] to have you back. We can do it We can
[1:07:14] talk again and go deeper.
[1:07:16] Um thank you.
[1:07:17] >> Yeah, you're fun to talk to you and easy
[1:07:19] to talk to.
[1:07:20] I'm going to uh while we got everyone
[1:07:22] here, too, I'm going to I want you to
[1:07:25] talk about the meditation series Awaken
[1:07:27] Wednesday for those that may not know
[1:07:28] about it. And um I'm going to drop the
[1:07:30] link in, too. So, for everybody that
[1:07:32] wants to join in tomorrow. So, they'll
[1:07:35] be in the chat right now. I'll give you
[1:07:36] a moment to chat about that.
[1:07:38] >> Well, I don't know if you're feeling
[1:07:39] lucky, but I can tell you that I um
[1:07:42] feel lucky to be here, feel lucky to
[1:07:44] meditate with you,
[1:07:46] and just in general.
[1:07:48] Uh feeling like a lot of recep-
[1:07:51] recipient of good fortune. And um I have
[1:07:54] this meditation series that's been going
[1:07:55] on for a couple of I think a couple of
[1:07:58] months now. And we do it every Wednesday
[1:08:00] through January.
[1:08:02] And it normally costs to join, but I'm
[1:08:05] going to invite you to join.
[1:08:07] And he's got the link. So, I uh that's
[1:08:10] how I'm going to get your email and send
[1:08:12] you the invitation. Happens every
[1:08:14] Wednesday.
[1:08:16] And it's private. And um
[1:08:19] I record it, and I have a private
[1:08:21] playlist on YouTube, which I'll add you
[1:08:24] to, so you can If you don't happen to be
[1:08:26] able to join it, it's at 10:00 a.m. on
[1:08:28] Wednesdays Pacific. So, 11, 12. That'll
[1:08:31] be 1
[1:08:33] p.m. Eastern, and 6:00 p.m.
[1:08:36] in the UK. And um
[1:08:39] I don't know what in Costa Rica what
[1:08:41] time it would be.
[1:08:42] >> Not on time. It's my So, be
[1:08:44] >> Same time.
[1:08:45] >> One time later than Pacific.
[1:08:47] >> What time is it there?
[1:08:49] >> It's 7:13 here.
[1:08:51] >> Oh, okay.
[1:08:51] >> So, it should be the same. Should Should
[1:08:52] be same in Costa Rica.
[1:08:54] >> Cool. Very good. Um I'm seeing if I can
[1:08:57] fix this now that the light's gone down.
[1:08:59] Um
[1:09:01] So, if you'd like to join me, I love it.
[1:09:02] It's like same kind of thing we just
[1:09:04] did. A little chatting and we break into
[1:09:07] if you want to join us, we break into
[1:09:09] community conversation. We go into
[1:09:11] breakout rooms or have Q&A. I do see
[1:09:15] some
[1:09:17] some things in the chat.
[1:09:19] Uh you almost fell asleep. That's right.
[1:09:22] Brandon, that's a normal response to
[1:09:25] being relaxed. Except for you're sitting
[1:09:27] up, so it's kind of a new way of being.
[1:09:31] I'm so glad you enjoyed all new to you.
[1:09:33] Andrea, thank you for being here. Oh my
[1:09:36] goodness, I love that you got to have
[1:09:38] that experience. I remember
[1:09:40] my first meditations. It was
[1:09:43] changed my life, obviously.
[1:09:45] Thank you, Shawn.
[1:09:48] >> Absolutely my pleasure. Yeah, totally
[1:09:51] grateful that you were here. Thank you
[1:09:52] so much. And then for everybody else, if
[1:09:54] you didn't grab the link, the way and if
[1:09:55] this was your first session this week,
[1:09:58] this replay will get uploaded. The team
[1:10:00] will get it up there roughly an hour
[1:10:01] after this. And then the link uh that I
[1:10:05] just posted here, you can also grab that
[1:10:07] on the viewing page that you clicked to
[1:10:09] get here. So, that will all be available
[1:10:10] to you for the rest of the week as well.
[1:10:12] The link will be.
[1:10:14] All right. So, thank you so much, you
[1:10:15] guys and gals. Like there's just
[1:10:17] something so awesome to be with your
[1:10:18] tribe. Like you're with your tribe right
[1:10:20] now, whether you know one another or
[1:10:21] not.
[1:10:23] You know, this is like the crazies. I
[1:10:24] call I call us the crazies, the ones
[1:10:26] that dare to go inward and have an
[1:10:28] intention and be bold and create
[1:10:31] something in your life. Like this is who
[1:10:33] you attracted into your life and and
[1:10:34] you're hanging with one another tonight
[1:10:36] and that's like such a cool thing. So,
[1:10:38] thank you so much for coming in spending
[1:10:40] some time together. And even for the
[1:10:42] ones that watch on the replay, you're
[1:10:44] still in contribution to the inner
[1:10:46] energetics of it that way. So,
[1:10:48] everyone have a beautiful night and
[1:10:50] thank you so much, Sarah. That was
[1:10:51] awesome.
[1:10:52] >> Thank you, Shawn.
[1:10:53] >> Yeah, absolutely.
[1:10:54] >> Good to see you. Thank you for being
[1:10:55] here.
[1:10:58] >> Bye, everyone.