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Inspiration

Mel Robbins on Moving Away, Passion, and Breakups

Mel Robbins
Mel Robbins
Oct 5, 2026
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A listener named Kelsey wants to leave home, and her close family ties are making that feel like a betrayal. Her question opens a long, rapid-fire episode of the Mel Robbins podcast in which Robbins works through questions sent in from listeners around the world, covering moving away, reigniting passion, fitness, overwhelming emotions, getting over a breakup, changing careers, and building a better life day to day. The episode, published October 5, 2026, runs just over an hour and is built on a simple premise: most people already know the answer they need, and the hard part is acting on it. Robbins answers each question the way a friend who has been through it would, mixing blunt directives with personal stories about her own family. What follows is an unpacking of the ideas that carry the most weight, drawn from the episode's own words.

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Is it okay to move away when your family is close?

Robbins's first answer is one word: "Move." She is specific about who it applies to. "At least once in your lifetime, you need to move," she tells Kelsey and the audience, and she is especially emphatic for people in their twenties. The reasoning is not about escaping anyone. It is about what a new environment does to a person. In her framing, "Your move isn't forever. But when you change the environment you live in, it changes you forever."

The most counterintuitive part of her answer concerns the guilt. Robbins argues that a family's hesitation about a move is mostly about the family. They are used to you being close. But the physical distance can work in the other direction. "When people are right next to you, you take them for granted," she says. "When you have distance and you move somewhere new, you stop taking your family for granted. You actually feel closer." The guilt, in her reading, is evidence that the relationship matters, not evidence that leaving is wrong. She reframes it from a debt into a gift: "Focus on the gift that you love your family."

To make the case concrete, Robbins describes her own daughter, Kendall, who moved from the East Coast to Los Angeles and stayed for seven years. Robbins recounts that Kendall's life there was full of growth, then something shifted. "It's not as sparkly anymore. Something's missing." Robbins treats that restlessness as a signal. Her line for it is the one she returns to most often in this section: "if you change nothing, nothing changes. But if you change where you live, everything changes and a new part of you emerges in this new place."

The argument has a clear shape. Robbins is not telling listeners to cut ties. She is saying that the itch to move is information, and that ignoring it keeps you in the same version of yourself. Distance, in her telling, is not the end of the family relationship. It is a way to meet it again as an adult who chose where to live.

What books does Mel Robbins keep recommending?

The episode's second question is a lighter one, and Robbins turns it into a small lesson about connection. She lists five books she is loving right now, and the first pick is the one that surprises her most. The Red Rising series by Pierce Brown is, in her words, "dude fantasy fiction," a space-set mix of "Divergent meets The Hunger Games" that she describes as "crazy violent" and full of battles and twists. It is not what she would normally pick up. She reads it because her son Oakley, who recommended it, is a devoted fan, and she wanted something to share with him. "It would help me understand a little bit more about, you know, my son," she says.

Her second pick, Firefly Lane by Kristin Hannah, comes with a physical detail: a copy given to her by her mother-in-law, with a handwritten inscription. Robbins describes the novel as a story of female friendship that runs from childhood to the end, and the inscription reads, "Mel, this is one you will never forget." She also recommends Correspondent by Virginia Evans, the third title in the list shared in the episode's segment timestamps. The books are less the point than the reason she gives for reading them: a shared book can become a bridge to someone you love.

How do you get your passion back when it has gone quiet?

This is one of the questions Robbins takes most seriously, and her core move is to reject the idea that passion is a hidden object you have to find. "Passion is not some hidden object that," as she puts it in the episode's discussion, and the thrust of the answer is that passion is built through action rather than discovered in a flash. Her practical suggestion is to deliberately insert something new and small into your week, something that gives you a little energy, and then keep doing it long enough to notice a shift. The episode's examples are modest on purpose. The point is not a dramatic reinvention. It is that energy follows movement.

The transcript for this section is partial, so it is worth being careful about what is clearly said. What is clear is the through-line: Robbins treats low passion as a condition you can work with, not a verdict on who you are.

What are the fitness basics Robbins actually recommends?

The episode includes a segment titled "3 Fitness Tips to Get Stronger and Healthier," and the transcript available here captures fragments of it. Robbins talks about a few foundational realizations, and about how the trouble is often not the workout itself. In one stretch she describes a daily routine that includes creatine, a protein-forward start to the day, and attention to fiber, and she describes the morning protein habit as her own. "That's my routine," she says, before adding a line that sums up her attitude: that's it. She frames routines as simple and repeatable rather than optimized.

Because the transcript provided is incomplete, the most useful takeaway is the approach she models. Robbins favors small, sustainable habits you can actually keep, and she is skeptical of fitness advice that depends on a perfect plan. For the full three-tip breakdown, the video itself is the source.

What should you do when emotions take over?

Robbins's advice on emotional overwhelm starts with noticing. She describes feeling emotions rise up through her body and returning to her breath, a practice that creates a small gap between the feeling and the reaction. Her broader point is that naming what you are feeling matters. She refers to two decades of work on labeling emotions, and she is frank that asking for help is part of the process. "Maybe you need to ask for help," she says, a line that treats support as a tool rather than a failure.

The emotion that feels like it will never pass usually has a shape you can name, and naming it is where the grip starts to loosen.

Paraphrased from Robbins's discussion of emotional labeling, 38:24 segment

The emphasis is on regulation, not suppression. Robbins is not asking listeners to feel less. She is asking them to stop being carried away by the feeling before they have looked at it.

How do you move on when something you thought would last ends?

The episode's description frames one of its sections around something you thought would last forever coming to an end, and Robbins's breakup advice reflects that loss. Her approach is to name the grief plainly and to avoid treating the ending as proof that something was wrong with you. She describes the aftermath as a period where your brain keeps reaching for what was, which is why the work of moving forward is repetitive. She suggests treating each return to the old pattern as a moment to choose differently rather than a relapse.

Are you busy, or are you actually connected?

Near the end, Robbins draws a line between being busy and being truly present with the people you love. The distinction is easy to miss in a crowded week. A calendar can be full and the relationships still thin. She argues that busyness is often a way of avoiding the harder work of attention, and that connection requires deliberate time. The thread ties back to her family examples: distance can sharpen the relationship, and presence can deepen it without moving at all.

Where to go from here

If one idea from this episode is worth carrying, it is Robbins's insistence that change is a practice, not a single decision. The move Kelsey asks about, the book on your nightstand, the walk you keep meaning to take, the conversation you keep postponing: each is a small place to start. Robbins's advice works best when you pick one thing from it and test it for a week.

For the full context, watch the complete episode, which runs about an hour and includes the Verizon-sponsored closing segment on a single habit for overwhelm. Robbins also offers a free newsletter and the Mel Robbins podcast, which publishes new episodes on Mondays and Thursdays, and she has written several books including The Let Them Theory, The High 5 Habit, and The 5 Second Rule. Start with the question that matches your life right now, and let the rest of the episode meet you there.

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[0:00] Today on the Mel Robbins podcast, this

[0:03] episode is all about you and your fellow

[0:07] listeners. Here's the big breakthrough

[0:09] that I had about health. I want to move

[0:12] away, Mel, but my close family ties are

[0:15] killing me. How do I deal with the

[0:17] guilt? Move. Let's talk about breakups.

[0:20] I'm answering your questions and sharing

[0:22] the life advice I wish I knew sooner.

[0:30] Before we get started, I just wanted to

[0:33] thank Verizon for sponsoring a bonus

[0:36] segment that you and I are going to do

[0:37] at the end of this episode. You are

[0:39] going to love this. So, make sure you

[0:41] stay around all the way until the end

[0:44] because I'm going to do a special

[0:45] segment on the power of one simple habit

[0:48] that helps you whenever you feel

[0:50] overwhelmed. It's sponsored by Verizon

[0:52] and you're going to love this advice.

[0:54] All right, let's jump into the episode.

[0:56] Hey, it's your friend Mel and welcome to

[0:59] the Mel Robbins podcast. We are going to

[1:01] have so much fun today because we're

[1:02] doing something I've never done before.

[1:05] Your and your fellow listeners

[1:06] questions. We're going to go rapid fire

[1:09] through them. And I just want to say

[1:10] it's an honor to be here with you. If

[1:12] you're new or somebody shared this with

[1:14] you, they probably shared it with you

[1:16] because there's something I'm going to

[1:17] cover that they wanted you to hear and

[1:19] you clicked. I promise you clicked on

[1:22] the episode that you need right now. And

[1:26] if you're sitting there saying, "Wait a

[1:27] minute, Mel. How do I submit a question

[1:30] that you may answer on a podcast?" Well,

[1:32] there are three ways that you can do

[1:34] this. Number one, and I think this is

[1:37] the best way, just sign up for the free

[1:39] newsletter. Go to

[1:40] melrobins.com/newsletter.

[1:41] I send out a personal letter that I

[1:44] write more than 2 million of your fellow

[1:46] listeners to the Melroins podcast. Open

[1:48] it up and read it every single week.

[1:50] It's full of all kinds of cool stuff. We

[1:53] go deeper into episodes, free resources.

[1:55] I share a lot more about my personal

[1:56] life and there are lots of opportunities

[1:59] in the newsletter to submit questions to

[2:02] get access to things. So you can go

[2:04] there. Second, just go to melrobins.com.

[2:06] On melins.com, there is a place under

[2:09] podcast where you can submit a question.

[2:11] And finally, third, social media. If you

[2:14] follow me or the Melroins podcast on

[2:16] social media, we are constantly scanning

[2:18] the comments. We're looking at the DMs.

[2:20] And when we're running polls and in the

[2:23] responses to the polls, especially on

[2:25] Instagram, there are often opportunities

[2:27] to submit questions. And I have a stack

[2:31] of them right here. We have combed

[2:33] through questions from listeners all

[2:35] around the world. And now we're just

[2:37] going to jump in rapid fire. Let's just

[2:39] start with the first question. Your

[2:41] fellow listener, Kelsey, writes, "I want

[2:44] to move away, Mel, but my close family

[2:46] ties are killing me. How do I deal with

[2:50] the guilt? I love this question. And the

[2:52] first thing I will say is move. At least

[2:57] once in your lifetime, you need to move.

[3:00] And if you are feeling the pull right

[3:03] now that you want to move, you need a

[3:06] change, you have to listen. Particularly

[3:10] if that pull is begging you to move from

[3:14] your home town. If you're in your 20s,

[3:18] moving during your 20s is a hugely

[3:20] important thing for you to do. And

[3:22] here's what I want you to remember. Your

[3:25] move isn't forever. But when you change

[3:28] the environment you live in, it changes

[3:30] you forever. This is so important. And

[3:34] you mentioned the guilt. The guilt of

[3:36] moving away from your hometown. The

[3:38] guilt because you're so close to your

[3:40] family. Your family may be feeling

[3:43] hesitant because they're used to having

[3:45] you close. But what I need you to

[3:47] understand is that your family's

[3:49] hesitancy is all about them. They love

[3:52] having you close, but when you change

[3:54] how close you are physically, it can

[3:57] actually deepen how close you feel to

[3:59] your family emotionally. It's kind of a

[4:02] weird thing. You know, when people are

[4:04] right next to you, you take them for

[4:05] granted. When you have distance and you

[4:08] move somewhere new, you stop taking your

[4:11] family for granted. You actually feel

[4:13] closer. And if you're feeling guilty

[4:15] about it, that's because you have close

[4:17] family ties. But it doesn't mean you

[4:19] shouldn't do it. It means your

[4:21] relationship with your family matters.

[4:24] Isn't that a beautiful way to think

[4:25] about it? So don't focus on the guilt.

[4:28] Focus on the gift that you love your

[4:32] family and your family matters so much

[4:33] to you. that one of the hardest things

[4:35] about moving is that you're moving away

[4:37] from them, but you're also moving toward

[4:41] a new version of yourself. Moving is one

[4:45] of the greatest ways that you can grow.

[4:46] And remember, you can always come back

[4:48] home. And from time to time, you will.

[4:52] But pushing yourself to change and grow

[4:54] and experience new things is how you

[4:56] come home to yourself. In fact, our

[4:58] daughter Kendall went all the way across

[5:01] country from the East Coast to Los

[5:03] Angeles. She was out there for 7 years

[5:06] and I was starting to think, okay, she's

[5:08] going to be out there forever. And just

[5:10] recently, she made the decision that I'm

[5:13] telling you that you need to make. She

[5:15] started feeling this itch, this itch

[5:18] that, huh, you know, I came out here to

[5:20] Los Angeles. It was a huge move for me.

[5:23] It was an amazing chapter. I grew. I

[5:26] learned so much. I became a new version

[5:28] of myself in ways that I never could

[5:30] have done anywhere else. But after seven

[5:33] years, h

[5:36] it's not as sparkly anymore. Something's

[5:38] missing. I think I may have outgrown the

[5:41] place that I'm in right now. I'm itching

[5:43] for a change. I need a change. And if

[5:46] that's how you're feeling right now, you

[5:49] need to move because staying where you

[5:52] are, that is going to keep you where you

[5:55] are. And you know, I love the saying, if

[5:57] you change nothing, nothing changes. But

[6:00] if you change where you live,

[6:04] everything changes and a new part of you

[6:07] emerges in this new place. So move. All

[6:11] right, let's go to the second question.

[6:13] I love this second question. Mel, what

[6:16] are the top five books that you

[6:18] recommend? All right, so here are my top

[6:21] five favorite books right now in this

[6:24] moment. The first recommendation, it is

[6:27] going to surprise you. It is the Red

[6:30] Rising series by Pierce Brown. Let me

[6:33] show you this. In fact, I've got three

[6:35] of them right here. Honestly, this is

[6:38] not a book that I would normally pick

[6:40] up, but I ended up loving it. And I'm

[6:43] going to tell you about it in a minute.

[6:45] Now, why did I pick up this series? The

[6:47] huge reason why I picked this book up in

[6:50] the first place, because this is like

[6:52] what I would call dude fantasy fiction.

[6:55] It's kind of like uh Divergent meets The

[6:59] Hunger Games uh but only in space. And

[7:02] it's like crazy violent. There's a

[7:04] bazillion characters in it. There's

[7:06] nothing but wars and battles and twists

[7:08] and turns. There's no sex to speak of,

[7:10] which is typically the fantasy books

[7:12] that I'm reading. But our son Oakley,

[7:15] it's his favorite book, the Red Rising

[7:17] series. He recommended it to me because

[7:19] he was constantly seeing me cracking

[7:21] open and devouring like the Fourth Wing

[7:24] series or Dire Bound or of course

[7:27] Acatar. And so I decided, you know what?

[7:30] I'm going to read this book because it's

[7:31] my son's favorite book. And I figured it

[7:35] would be something that we could connect

[7:38] over. It would help me understand a

[7:40] little bit more about, you know, my son.

[7:42] And I loved this book, not only because

[7:46] it was amazing. was a little bit

[7:47] different than what I normally read, but

[7:49] it gave me something that I could share

[7:52] and talk to my son about. So, this

[7:55] series definitely on the top of my list

[7:58] right now. I'm not quite done with

[8:00] Morning Star, um, but I'm about to

[8:02] finish it. Okay, book recommendation

[8:05] number two is Firefly Lane by Kristen

[8:10] Hannah. Oh my gosh,

[8:13] this book.

[8:15] This book right here, this book was

[8:17] given to me by my mother-in-law. Let's

[8:20] see what she wrote in here. Okay,

[8:23] here it is. There's her handwriting. You

[8:25] can see that this is true. Mel, this is

[8:28] one you will never forget. Loving you as

[8:32] a friend, JJ. Oh, this book is so

[8:37] beautiful. It is about female friendship

[8:43] and it's a friendship between this woman

[8:46] Kate and another woman Tully. And it

[8:50] goes all the way from childhood all the

[8:52] way to the end. It's fast. It's

[8:56] beautiful. It will make you think of all

[8:58] the women in your life, the ones that

[9:01] you're currently friends with, the ones

[9:02] that you were friends with when you were

[9:04] little. You are going to be sobbing by

[9:07] the end of this thing. Oh my god, was I

[9:09] crying, crying, crying. I have now

[9:12] passed the gift of this book on to three

[9:15] other girlfriends, my two daughters, my

[9:18] mom. It is just a beautiful, easy, deep,

[9:22] wonderful read. And what I love about a

[9:23] book like this is it makes you

[9:26] really think more deeply about your life

[9:30] and the people in it. And you know,

[9:32] isn't that what a great book does?

[9:35] The next book, number three, is The

[9:38] Correspondent by Virginia Evans. I love

[9:43] this book. And the reason why I'm not

[9:44] holding it right now is because I sent

[9:46] it to my mom. As soon as I was done

[9:49] reading this book, I thought, "Oh my

[9:50] god, my mother is going to love this

[9:52] book." And she did love this book. And

[9:54] then she passed the correspondent on to

[9:56] my sister-in-law. It is such a beautiful

[9:59] book and it's written from the point of

[10:01] view of this really grouchy older woman

[10:05] who is reflecting on her life and

[10:09] largely her relationship with her

[10:11] daughter and you know kind of neighbors

[10:13] and other people. And here's what's so

[10:15] amazing about this book. Every chapter

[10:19] is written as a letter and you start to

[10:23] learn more and more about what happened

[10:25] in this woman's life. and you start to

[10:27] learn about the distance between her and

[10:32] her daughter. And it opened up my eyes

[10:36] to so many things. It gave me so much

[10:38] compassion. You know, we we we we judge

[10:42] people based on where we are, but we

[10:45] have absolutely no context for where

[10:47] they've been and what they've

[10:49] experienced.

[10:50] And it also is a book that opens you up

[10:56] to the fact that there are unexpected

[10:59] relationships all around you. And that

[11:03] the key to finding those unexpected

[11:06] relationships is showing up with more

[11:08] understanding and kindness. You know, I

[11:11] often remind you and I remind myself

[11:13] that some of your most favorite people

[11:15] that you've ever met in your lifetime,

[11:17] you haven't even met yet. And what this

[11:19] book will teach you is that they may be

[11:21] living across the street. They may be a

[11:24] person who is working down at the town

[11:27] clerk's office. They may be somebody

[11:30] that you've grown apart from. And it'll

[11:33] make you feel more compassionate,

[11:36] way more compassionate for people in

[11:38] your life that are older. I just loved

[11:40] this book. Okay, the fourth book that I

[11:44] am recommending right now is by my buddy

[11:48] John Gisham. Now, I love John Gisham.

[11:52] Okay, I got an advanced copy of his new

[11:55] book because he was a guest on this

[11:58] podcast, the Mel Robbins podcast, and I

[12:01] literally could not put this book down.

[12:04] Now, if you don't know who John Gisham

[12:05] is, John Gisham is one of the most

[12:07] successful writers of our time. He has

[12:09] sold 500

[12:11] million books. Yes, 500 million.

[12:16] His books have been adapted into movies.

[12:19] And John Gisham is known for legal

[12:22] thrillers. In fact, his book, The Firm,

[12:25] is a book that changed my life because I

[12:27] was miserable in law school. And when I

[12:30] read that book, it made me realize,

[12:32] wait, a lawyer wrote this. Maybe I don't

[12:34] have to practice law. Maybe I can use

[12:36] this degree and do something else. But

[12:38] here's what's interesting about The

[12:40] French Illusion. The French Illusion is

[12:42] not a legal thriller. So John Gisham,

[12:45] after 500 million books sold, is now

[12:48] writing a new chapter of his own. This

[12:50] is about espionage and it is crazy. He

[12:54] told me, he's like, "Mel, this book

[12:56] right here, The French Illusion, is the

[12:59] most page turning page turning book I

[13:01] have ever written in my entire life. The

[13:02] man is not wrong. I am mad at him

[13:04] because I stayed up almost all night

[13:06] reading this thing. The book centers

[13:08] around the kidnapping of a newlywed

[13:11] couple who's in Paris for their

[13:13] honeymoon. And so you kind of start

[13:15] reading the book and you're like, "Ooh,

[13:16] you know, are these two influencers in

[13:18] Paris and they're taking photos and

[13:19] they're going through this thing and

[13:21] then all of a sudden, oh my god, they

[13:23] get kidnapped by page 15." I was like,

[13:26] "Well, what are these idiot parents

[13:28] doing? Why are they not calling the FBI?

[13:31] Why? Why are they listening to these

[13:33] ransom note people? You always call the

[13:35] FBI, you dummies. And so the entire time

[13:38] you're going to be flipping through this

[13:39] because you see yourself in this and you

[13:42] start thinking, "What if this happened

[13:43] to my honeymoon? What if this happened

[13:44] to my brother on his? What if this

[13:46] happened to one of my kids on their

[13:47] honeymoon?" Your heart will be pounding.

[13:49] The pages will be turning. The French

[13:52] illusion. John Gisham, you have done it

[13:54] again.

[13:55] Number five. Number five. I've already

[13:59] confessed to you that I love fantasy,

[14:01] but adult romantic fantasy the gateway

[14:04] drug for me. Cortith thorn and roses.

[14:07] Sarah J. Moss right here. I'm just going

[14:09] to go on the record and say I've read

[14:11] all five books in Acatar. Sarah J. OS

[14:14] has caused a firestorm online because

[14:17] she has announced that she is dropping

[14:19] not just the sixth book in the series,

[14:23] but the seventh one as well within 3

[14:28] months of each other. I am ready to drop

[14:31] in. And what I love so much about

[14:34] fantasy, what I love so much about

[14:37] reading is books allow you to step out

[14:40] of your life

[14:42] and step into a different world. They

[14:46] show you completely new possibilities.

[14:49] They introduce you to the truth that

[14:53] everybody has both a deeply personal

[14:58] experience that shapes their life,

[15:02] but we all are truly more alike than we

[15:06] are different. And when you can step

[15:09] into the shoes and the minds of

[15:12] characters that are not like you, it

[15:14] expands your mind. It expands your

[15:16] heart. It expands compassion and

[15:18] understanding, and it expands your

[15:20] imagination. And isn't that the purpose

[15:23] of art? To make you feel things that you

[15:27] otherwise wouldn't in your day-to-day

[15:29] life. I absolutely

[15:32] love that. All right, you can tell I'm

[15:35] getting really passionate about this.

[15:37] And that brings me to the next question.

[15:40] Mel, how can I have more passion about

[15:43] life? I need a change. And I don't want

[15:46] to jump over a very important thing in

[15:48] this question that a lot of you miss.

[15:53] And I've missed this for decades before

[15:55] I really understood that change is a

[15:58] choice.

[16:00] You have to decide that you want to do

[16:04] and feel and be someone different. It's

[16:08] very easy to go through your day-today

[16:11] life and just lull yourself into kind of

[16:13] autopilot.

[16:15] And when you're in that mode where

[16:17] you're just waking up and you're trying

[16:19] to get through the day and it's the same

[16:20] old, same old, same old, same old, you

[16:24] haven't woken up yet.

[16:26] You haven't made a decision that I don't

[16:29] really like how life feels. I need a

[16:32] change. And it's very important to say

[16:35] this. It seems like a nuance point, but

[16:38] maybe

[16:40] the issue for you as you're listening is

[16:43] that you're so in the routine, you're so

[16:47] used to the suffering and the overwhelm

[16:49] and the stress and just having a life

[16:53] that's kind of blah that you haven't

[16:55] even done the first step yet, which is I

[16:57] don't like this anymore. I need a

[17:00] change.

[17:02] And so if you don't like where you're

[17:03] at, step one of making your life better

[17:07] is making a decision that you want to

[17:10] make your life better. That even though

[17:14] you're doing the best that you can, even

[17:17] though you have a job that you don't

[17:18] like, even though you've really let your

[17:21] health go, that you know that you don't

[17:25] have to stay here at any moment. You can

[17:27] make a decision to change. You can

[17:28] change your relationship. You can change

[17:30] your habits. You can change your job.

[17:32] You can change where you live. You can

[17:34] change your mindset. In fact, the fact

[17:36] that you hit play on this episode and

[17:39] that you listen to the Mel Robbins

[17:41] podcast means you're the kind of person

[17:43] who wants a better life. And so, don't

[17:46] just put up with where you are if you

[17:49] don't like it. If you don't like how

[17:52] your life feels,

[17:54] make a decision that you're going to do

[17:56] whatever you need to do to make your

[17:58] life feel better.

[18:00] Now let's talk about passion because

[18:03] passion

[18:05] is not something you find. Passion is

[18:09] something you feel. And this is a huge

[18:12] mistake that I made for a very long time

[18:15] about passion.

[18:17] I thought passion was like a job or it

[18:21] was a calling or it was a person.

[18:22] Passion is not some hidden object that

[18:25] you're supposed to hunt down and find.

[18:27] No, not at all. Passion is a feeling

[18:30] inside you. So if you're struggling to

[18:34] feel more passion in life, this is

[18:36] actually a very straightforward problem

[18:39] that you can solve starting right now

[18:40] where you are. And there's three things

[18:42] you need to do to feel more passion

[18:45] starting now. Number one, start using

[18:48] the word energy instead of the word

[18:52] passion.

[18:53] Because passion is just another word for

[18:56] energy. That's it. Like stop and think

[18:58] about people that you know that are

[19:00] passionate, right? All that the word

[19:02] passionate means is the person who's

[19:05] passionate is just energized by what

[19:08] they're doing. I'll give you a couple

[19:10] examples. If a chef is passionate about

[19:14] cooking, it means that when they're in

[19:16] the kitchen chefing it up, it energizes

[19:19] them. When a barrel rider, somebody that

[19:23] you know rides the barrels at a rodeo,

[19:25] gets all passionate about running the

[19:28] next race that they're going to run with

[19:29] their horse, it just means they get

[19:31] energized when they think about doing

[19:32] it. A DJ that is passionate about

[19:36] playing a concert and spinning songs

[19:39] together,

[19:41] they're just energized by what they're

[19:42] doing. That's what passion means. And

[19:44] that's really good news because anything

[19:48] in life that makes you personally feel

[19:52] just a little bit more energized

[19:56] automatically

[19:57] makes you feel more passion

[20:00] in your day. Once you stop saying the

[20:03] word passion and you start using the

[20:05] word energy, what brings me energy? What

[20:08] energizes me? Now, what I want you to do

[20:11] is make a list of all the things that

[20:13] you love to do. And anything that

[20:15] naturally just puts you in a good mood

[20:17] or gives you a little bit of energy, get

[20:20] it on the list. Dancing. My husband and

[20:22] I used to take dance lessons. Whenever

[20:25] we go to a wedding, I love being on the

[20:27] dance floor with a man. You know what

[20:29] would bring more passion and energy into

[20:30] my life? Signing up for dance lessons

[20:32] with Chris Robbins. Being outside might

[20:34] be something that naturally gives you

[20:36] energy. drawing, painting, going to

[20:39] museums, having friends over and

[20:41] creating a great meal, gardening,

[20:45] reading, anything. I mean, just throw me

[20:47] a bone here. What do you like to do? It

[20:50] could be anything. And don't judge it

[20:54] because this is not for other people.

[20:57] It could be singing in a choir.

[20:59] What are the things that if you look at

[21:03] your life when you were doing those

[21:04] things? Were you playing on a team

[21:06] sport? Were you going to uh religious

[21:09] services more often? Were you painting a

[21:12] back bedroom? What were you doing when

[21:15] you felt more energized about your life?

[21:19] There's some really interesting research

[21:20] that backs me up on this. Dr. Katie

[21:22] Milpin is an award-winning behavioral

[21:24] scientist and endowed professor at the

[21:26] Wharton School of Business. Now, she was

[21:29] on this podcast, the Mel Robbins

[21:30] podcast, and she talked about this

[21:33] concept that when you first hear, it is

[21:36] going to feel like that can't be true.

[21:38] And here's the concept. If you're

[21:41] overwhelmed in your life and you're

[21:42] feeling very blah,

[21:45] one of the fastest ways to feel more in

[21:48] control of your time and to feel more

[21:52] energized in your life is to add

[21:55] something in.

[21:58] that you like doing.

[22:01] Now, this doesn't make sense if you're

[22:03] feeling overwhelmed and blah. Well, if

[22:05] I'm already overwhelmed, Mel, and I'm

[22:06] already blah, and I already have so much

[22:08] going on. I have no passion and energy

[22:10] in my life, how do I possibly have the

[22:12] energy to add something in? How am I

[22:15] going to go play pickup soccer? How am I

[22:18] going to go volunteer at that women's

[22:19] shelter? How am I going to find time to

[22:23] go to the movies because I haven't been

[22:24] to the movies in five years and I love

[22:26] going to the movies by myself? Well, the

[22:29] research shows that when you

[22:32] intentionally insert something into your

[22:35] schedule that you enjoy doing that's for

[22:38] you, it's not a should, it's something

[22:41] that you just like to do. Two things

[22:44] happen. Number one, the fact that you're

[22:48] intentionally putting this in

[22:51] tells your subconscious and tells you

[22:54] that you matter and that you're the kind

[22:57] of person that makes time for things

[22:59] that bring energy and joy to your life.

[23:02] And the research is very clear that one

[23:05] of the results from this is that it

[23:08] gives you this sense that you're in

[23:11] control of your time because you've

[23:13] inserted something that matters to you

[23:15] instead of feeling like a human to-do

[23:16] list on legs doing everything for

[23:18] everybody else. That's number one. But

[23:20] more importantly, number two, you get

[23:22] this double energy passion bonus because

[23:26] you now have something that you're

[23:27] looking forward to in an otherwise

[23:29] boring, overwhelming list of obligations

[23:33] that is this week. And as you're looking

[23:36] forward to it, knowing that it's coming,

[23:38] it gives you a little energy. And then

[23:40] you get a second boost of energy when

[23:44] you actually show up on Thursday night

[23:45] to the pickup game or you show up

[23:47] Thursday night and you're going to the

[23:49] movies alone or you show up Thursday

[23:51] night and you're meeting your favorite

[23:52] friend out for dinner. And so you get

[23:56] two boosts of energy. And then there's a

[23:58] final thing that she advises and it's

[24:00] this. Start asking yourself, what am I

[24:04] looking forward to today or this week?

[24:06] Because when you ask yourself this

[24:08] question, what am I looking forward to

[24:10] today or this week? It trains your brain

[24:13] to focus on positive anticipation

[24:17] rather than what your brain is currently

[24:19] doing, which is just trying to survive

[24:21] and keep your head above water. Okay?

[24:24] So, two, you're going to make a list of

[24:25] all these exciting things. And then

[24:27] three, I basically already said this, do

[24:28] it. Do it. Because if you insert even

[24:32] just one thing, just one thing this

[24:35] Thursday, go take an improv class, go

[24:38] learn to tap dance, go walk up the

[24:41] Westside Highway in New York City if

[24:43] that's where you live and you haven't

[24:44] done it in a month. That right there

[24:46] energizes you and you will start feeling

[24:48] more passionate about your life right

[24:50] now because looking forward to it brings

[24:54] you energy right now. And then when you

[24:57] go to that gospel choir or you stop at

[24:59] that improv class or you go antiquing

[25:01] this weekend or you run to thrift stores

[25:04] in the town next door or you make a you

[25:08] buy tickets to go to the museum exhibit

[25:09] that's about to leave your town and

[25:11] you've been meaning to going. All of

[25:14] these things make you feel naturally

[25:17] more energized

[25:19] and that is how you start to feel more

[25:23] passion in your daytoday life. All

[25:27] right, next question. Um, this one is

[25:31] Mel. Will you share your diet and

[25:33] fitness tips? I want you to take us

[25:35] through your workout. Now, I love this

[25:38] question because my answer is not going

[25:42] to be what you expect. And there are

[25:46] three foundational realizations that

[25:48] changed my approach to health and to

[25:52] strength and to the way that I think

[25:55] about taking care of my body. And so,

[25:57] let me share them with you. Number one,

[25:59] you cannot out exercise a crappy diet.

[26:03] And for me, it was a huge wakeup call.

[26:06] And look, I realize that this is kind of

[26:08] common sense and all the experts say

[26:10] this, but I don't know what it is. For

[26:12] years, I just thought, okay, I can

[26:14] destroy myself when it comes to all the

[26:16] food I'm eating and the calories and the

[26:18] alcohol I'm drinking and the way I'm

[26:20] just not taking care of the fuel that I

[26:22] put in my body and then somehow like run

[26:25] it off on a treadmill. That's not how it

[26:28] works. And I don't know why it took me

[26:31] 55 years to have this wakeup call. Maybe

[26:33] it was because my hormones changed and

[26:36] menopause hit and my body started to

[26:39] feel like it was moving in directions

[26:41] that I didn't like and I started to get

[26:43] serious about truly listening to the

[26:47] experts in this space and it became very

[26:50] clear the problem wasn't the fitness, it

[26:54] was the fuel. you want to be healthy and

[26:57] energized, you better be thinking

[26:58] seriously about the fuel that you are

[27:01] eating. And the place where I was really

[27:04] failing every day is I was not eating

[27:07] enough protein and I was not eating

[27:09] enough fiber. Period. That was that was

[27:13] my problem. And so I

[27:17] changed I started figuring out how do

[27:20] you eat more protein and how do you get

[27:22] more fiber in your diet? Now, the

[27:25] protein piece was really difficult. I

[27:27] don't know if you've been trying to get

[27:28] more protein or not. You asked me to

[27:29] walk you through my daily routine, and

[27:31] I'm going to tell you how I get protein

[27:33] in because the experts that have been on

[27:36] the Mel Robbins podcast and the doctors

[27:38] that I personally go to were telling me

[27:41] that I needed like 120 grams of protein

[27:43] every day. That's a lot of freaking

[27:45] protein. And so, you know, there's only

[27:47] so much chicken and beef and fish and

[27:50] tuna and eggs and shakes and smoothies

[27:53] and crap that you can eat and drink. And

[27:55] my god, I don't have time to prep that

[27:57] much stuff. But here is my promise to

[28:00] myself. I try to get 100 g of protein. I

[28:05] don't think there's ever been a day in

[28:06] my life I've gotten 120. So, I'm

[28:08] shooting for 100 100 gram of protein.

[28:11] And I'm also shooting for 30 g of fiber

[28:14] because that's what Dr. Amy Shaw, who's

[28:16] been on the Mel Robbins podcast three

[28:17] times, says we need to do. 95% of

[28:22] Americans are not getting enough fiber.

[28:25] 95% of us, and that's that was me. And

[28:29] fiber is critical for your gut health.

[28:31] Fiber is critical for you to feel full.

[28:33] Fiber is critical for so many aspects of

[28:36] your metabolic health. It's it's

[28:38] important just like protein. So, here's

[28:40] what I typically do. So, typically every

[28:44] single morning I wake up. The first

[28:46] thing that I do. Okay, you can see I'm

[28:49] still working on it here. I've got a big

[28:50] mason jar. I drink two of these a day.

[28:53] Can hear it. And see how the dust cloud

[28:55] is stirring up in that? That sucker

[28:57] right there? The dust cloud is creatine.

[29:00] So, I start with a mug of water and I

[29:03] put in 10 grams of creatine. The experts

[29:06] told me you got to start with five grams

[29:08] of creatine and then titrate up after

[29:11] four or five weeks. I did that. So, I

[29:13] put creatine in my water and I nurse

[29:15] this sucker for the first half of the

[29:17] day. Then what I drink is I always drink

[29:20] one of my Pure Genius protein shots.

[29:23] Yes, I am a co-founder. No, this is not

[29:25] an infomercial. You asked for what I do.

[29:28] I do this every single day. It has

[29:31] changed my life. It's why I got involved

[29:33] with this company. I reach for one of

[29:35] these 3 oz shots. This sucker right

[29:38] here, TSA approved.

[29:40] It's like the size of a 5h hour energy

[29:42] bottle. For those of you who can't see

[29:44] it, you can fit it in your pocket. Um,

[29:46] it's only 100 calories. It's 23 g of

[29:49] complete protein. 23 g. I would have to

[29:52] eat 5 and 1/2 eggs to get 23 g of

[29:56] protein. I would have to eat 2 cups of

[29:59] Greek yogurt to get this much protein. I

[30:02] can slam this sucker in about 10

[30:04] seconds. I can't do that with the

[30:05] creatine. And then I've gotten 23 g of

[30:08] protein. It's delicious. It tastes like

[30:10] juice. It's only 100 calories. There's

[30:12] no sugar. There's no fat. There's no

[30:14] gluten. There's no artificial flavors.

[30:16] Then I exercise. And my exercise

[30:19] routine, I have to move my body every

[30:23] day. Otherwise, I'm a giant to my

[30:25] family and I can't focus. And so, I move

[30:30] my body every day. And at least 5 days a

[30:33] week, I am walking the dogs or I'm

[30:35] hiking or I'm taking a big loop in

[30:37] whatever city I'm in. But three days a

[30:40] week, I now lift heavy weights. And I

[30:44] blame Dr. Stacy Sims. I blame Dr.

[30:48] Gabrielle Lions. I blame Dr. Vonda

[30:51] Wright. I blame Dr. Amy Shaw. I blame

[30:55] Dr. Eric Toppel. Are you sensing a theme

[30:58] here? Who have all come on the Mel

[31:00] Robbins podcast and told you and me that

[31:03] if we want to live a long and healthy

[31:05] life, we better be picking up the heavy

[31:07] ass weights. And I will say the

[31:10] combination of protein first thing in

[31:12] the morning and the combination of

[31:15] resistance training three days a week

[31:17] and I'm not in there for an hour and a

[31:19] half. I get this sucker done in 30

[31:21] minutes. That's all you need. That's it.

[31:23] So whether it's a walk with a dog, it's

[31:25] the resistance training, it's going to

[31:27] an exercise class because that's how I

[31:29] get the best workout in. And what I

[31:32] think is very important to say is

[31:35] figure out what works for you. If it's

[31:37] fun, you'll do it. If it's better for

[31:40] you to go to a class because you then

[31:43] make the instructor motivate you, go to

[31:45] a class. If you do it better with a

[31:48] streamed exercise online by yourself,

[31:50] then do that. The most important thing

[31:53] is that you're doing something. When I'm

[31:55] done with um my exercise or walking the

[31:58] dog and then I get ready for work, what

[32:01] I do next is I have a second breakfast.

[32:03] I'll either have Greek yogurt with

[32:05] berries, typically blueberries, because

[32:07] Dr. Amy Shaw says that that's got a

[32:09] great source of fiber in it, or I'll

[32:11] have eggs and a salad, which is what I

[32:13] had this morning after I had the Pure

[32:15] Genius. Uh I have a cup of coffee then.

[32:17] I do not drink coffee until after I've

[32:19] been up for 90 minutes. And all of these

[32:22] choices, the protein and fiber first

[32:24] thing in the morning, moving my body,

[32:26] delaying coffee, drinking creatine and

[32:28] water, I am a different person.

[32:32] I have more energy. I can focus. I feel

[32:37] good. I feel like I'm in my body. Um,

[32:41] it's incredible.

[32:43] For lunch, it's kind of boring. I

[32:45] typically have a salad with some kind of

[32:47] protein on it, and I don't discriminate

[32:49] against protein. Sometimes it's tuna

[32:51] straight out of a can. Sometimes I'm

[32:52] standing in front of the fridge eating

[32:54] chicken from last night straight out of

[32:56] the Tupperware. Sometimes it's leftover

[32:58] hamburger that we've grilled that I toss

[33:00] on top of a salad. And honestly, dinner

[33:04] a lot of the time it's the same thing.

[33:06] And then I go to bed pretty early.

[33:08] That's my routine. That's it. That's it.

[33:12] Oh, and I always take a bath every

[33:13] night. Those are my non-negotiables.

[33:16] So that's the routine. And you cannot

[33:21] out exercise a crappy diet. And if you

[33:24] flip your perspective from I'm just

[33:26] going to eat whatever food I want to

[33:28] what is the best fuel I can put in my

[33:30] body to fuel me to have a good day. That

[33:34] was a huge takeaway for me. Okay, here's

[33:36] the second thing that really changed

[33:38] everything. What is the source of your

[33:40] motivation?

[33:42] Are you trying to be stronger and more

[33:44] energized and healthier or are you

[33:47] trying to be skinny?

[33:49] For real, because for 50 years, I tried

[33:52] to be skinny.

[33:54] I was being driven by the pressure that

[33:57] a lot of women feel to be thin because I

[34:01] thought thin was beautiful. Thin means

[34:03] you're healthy. Thin is what makes you

[34:06] attractive. And when you are trying to

[34:09] lose weight because you think you

[34:11] should,

[34:12] you're trying to be skinny cuz you think

[34:14] you should.

[34:16] The source of your motivation

[34:19] is proving something to other people.

[34:22] The source of your motivation is about

[34:25] how you look to others versus how you

[34:28] want to feel in your body.

[34:31] And so changing and having a wakeup call

[34:36] and really recognizing that the goal

[34:39] here is for you to feel stronger, Mel.

[34:42] It's for you to have more energy. It's

[34:43] for you to be healthier. It's so that

[34:46] you live longer. And it's so that you

[34:49] can have vitality

[34:52] as you age. Like you don't want to be

[34:54] thin and frail and like some rickety old

[34:57] skeleton with skin hanging off you. Like

[35:00] you want to be in your 80s and 90s and

[35:02] be able to dance and hike and have

[35:05] energy and vitality. And so when you

[35:08] shift, why exactly

[35:11] do you want to work out? For me, it was

[35:15] foundational to shift from trying to

[35:17] look a certain way to trying to feel a

[35:21] certain way. And now here's the third,

[35:23] and this is huge. I want you to get

[35:26] really clear. What's your intention?

[35:29] Why do you want to change your diet and

[35:31] fitness? Why

[35:34] is it because you think you should?

[35:38] Or is it because you want to feel

[35:42] differently?

[35:43] Because we all know cause and effect,

[35:47] but before the cause and the effect

[35:50] comes the intention behind the action

[35:54] you're taking. If your intention is

[35:58] that, well, I should do it. I should,

[36:01] that's not really an intention.

[36:03] That's pressure.

[36:06] When I shifted my intention from, well,

[36:09] I should exercise and I need to do this

[36:12] and kind of this make wrong to no, my

[36:15] intention is that number one, I'm the

[36:18] kind of person who takes care of

[36:21] herself. My intention is in living a

[36:25] long and healthy life. My intention and

[36:28] the reason why I moved my body and got

[36:30] serious about the fuel and the fitness

[36:33] is because I want to be dancing at my

[36:35] grandkids weddings. I want to be able to

[36:37] travel late in life and pick up my

[36:39] suitcase and put it above the overhead.

[36:42] I want to be able to be mobile. And so

[36:44] when you think about the intention

[36:46] behind why you want to do something,

[36:48] that taps into your intrinsic

[36:51] motivation. And I want to share with you

[36:54] a little piece of research that I think

[36:55] is really powerful. When you think you

[36:58] should exercise,

[37:00] it's not that motivating because you're

[37:03] kind of making yourself wrong for not

[37:05] doing it. Oh, I should do it. Okay, I

[37:07] don't really want to. If you can switch

[37:11] the reason why you're doing this, and

[37:12] this is true for women in particular in

[37:15] this particular study, if you can tell

[37:17] yourself the reason why I exercise is

[37:20] it's the only time all day long, that's

[37:24] for me. The only time

[37:28] every other second of the day is about

[37:30] my family. It's about work. It's about

[37:34] taking care of my pets. It's about

[37:36] answering texts. When else do I have

[37:40] time alone that's just for me to be with

[37:44] me taking care of me?

[37:47] When you realize that when you exercise,

[37:50] when you go for a walk, when you go to a

[37:53] yoga class, when you go to the gym,

[37:57] that's your time. You don't have to do

[38:00] anything for anyone. You get to just be

[38:03] there for you.

[38:05] Do you see how the intention and the

[38:08] source of motivation changes and now it

[38:11] kind of makes you want to do it? It

[38:13] makes you want to protect the time and

[38:15] elbow everybody out because you deserve

[38:17] that time when you look at it that way.

[38:20] Pretty cool, huh? I think so, too. All

[38:23] right, let's move on to the next

[38:26] question. Here's the next question. How

[38:28] do you think logically when your

[38:30] emotions always feel stronger? You

[38:33] cannot think logically when your

[38:35] emotions are taking over. Period. That's

[38:38] just not how your brain works. So, don't

[38:41] even try to think logically when you're

[38:43] emotional because your emotions

[38:47] override

[38:49] your ability to leverage certain parts

[38:53] of your brain's capacity to problem

[38:55] solve. I think we kind of all know this.

[38:57] Like when you're freaking out and

[38:59] overwhelmed and angry and upset and mad

[39:02] about something, you can't

[39:05] think clearly. You often send the texts

[39:08] that you regret. You say something that

[39:10] you can't take back. And so instead of

[39:14] trying to push through the emotion,

[39:18] the better strategy is to work with the

[39:22] wiring that you have instead of against

[39:24] it. And this particular recommendation I

[39:27] love. It comes from Dr. Mark Brackett.

[39:29] Dr. Brackett is the founding director of

[39:31] the Yale Center for Emotional

[39:32] Intelligence. He's a professor in the

[39:34] Child Study Center at Yale University.

[39:36] He's also the author of a number of New

[39:40] York Times bestselling books. And he was

[39:42] on the Mel Robbins podcast and he uses

[39:44] this framework and you can use it to

[39:47] manage your emotions. So, the first

[39:49] step, and this sounds really dumb,

[39:52] but the first step is to recognize that

[39:56] you're getting emotional.

[39:59] That's it. Oh, wow.

[40:02] I'm having an emotional reaction.

[40:05] The second step is to label what you're

[40:08] feeling.

[40:10] Are you scared or are you lonely? Are

[40:14] you angry

[40:16] or are you overwhelmed?

[40:18] Are you feeling hurt

[40:21] or do you feel incompetent?

[40:24] Do you notice how those are very, very,

[40:25] very different feelings? I'll give you

[40:27] an example. Just yesterday, there was so

[40:30] much going on and so much that was

[40:34] coming at me. I know you've had days

[40:35] like that. It just felt like life had

[40:39] taken an ice bucket and dumped it over

[40:42] my head. I mean, there were travel

[40:44] logistics and my daughter was having a

[40:46] breakdown and there was a deadline at

[40:47] work that I missed and then there was

[40:49] something that I needed to do and plus

[40:50] I'm sick and it was all happening at

[40:52] once and I started to get this like

[40:56] overwhelmed feeling. But when I get

[40:58] overwhelmed,

[41:00] I feel the emotions rise up through my

[41:03] body like a volcano. It does. And for

[41:07] everyone around me,

[41:09] that feels like a human hurricane.

[41:14] And I know when I get in that emotional

[41:16] state

[41:18] for other people,

[41:20] it feels like I'm hostile or it feels

[41:23] like I'm mad or it feels like I'm really

[41:28] frustrated.

[41:29] But what's actually happening is I'm

[41:32] completely overwhelmed and I'm starting

[41:35] to shut down. And just yesterday it was

[41:39] happening to me. And so I just started

[41:40] saying, "I'm really overwhelmed right

[41:42] now. I'm really overwhelmed right now."

[41:44] And it works.

[41:46] What does naming the emotion do?

[41:50] Naming the emotion, according to Dr.

[41:52] Brackett's research, slows the emotion.

[41:56] And then when you've named the emotion,

[41:59] you can actually pick a technique that

[42:01] will work to help you diffuse it. Maybe

[42:04] you need a hug. Maybe you need to take a

[42:07] walk outside. Maybe you need to take a

[42:09] breath. Maybe you need to ask for help.

[42:12] Maybe you need to just write down how

[42:14] you're feeling. And once you've named

[42:16] it, the third step, oh, and this one's a

[42:18] hard one.

[42:20] Practice not responding.

[42:24] That's a hard one.

[42:26] Just be in the pause

[42:29] because that's actually the skill. The

[42:32] skill is to allow your emotions to rise,

[42:37] to notice,

[42:39] and to pass.

[42:43] That's it. That's the skill.

[42:47] Because when you practice this pause, in

[42:50] fact, I write about this a ton in the

[42:52] let them theory book. You need to let

[42:54] them emotions just rise up. You do. And

[42:57] there's some interesting research. They

[42:59] call it the 90 second rule. That almost

[43:02] all emotions, if you don't react to

[43:05] them, you just pause, dissipate within

[43:10] 90 seconds.

[43:12] And what's really cool is that when you

[43:16] start to master the pause

[43:19] and you let them emotions rise up and

[43:22] you let me just not do anything right

[43:24] now. Don't send the text. Don't snap.

[43:28] Don't do anything.

[43:31] What that pause allows to happen is it

[43:34] gives your brain space to come back

[43:36] online.

[43:39] It allows your thinking and your

[43:41] critical decision-making skills and your

[43:44] executive functioning to come back

[43:47] so you can decide how to respond. You

[43:51] know, Victor Frankle, who famously wrote

[43:54] the book Man's Search for Meaning, talks

[43:57] about this truth that between the

[44:01] stimulus that caused that emotional

[44:03] response

[44:05] and how you react to it, there's this

[44:08] gap.

[44:10] And Dr. Bracket is saying, "We want you

[44:12] to learn how to notice what's happening

[44:14] and then pause so the emotions can rise

[44:16] and fall. You got the stimulus, the

[44:19] emotions happen. Now, let's create the

[44:21] gap. And they've studied the impact that

[44:25] your emotions have on your brain at

[44:27] UCLA. And they've also studied the

[44:31] labeling of emotions for two decades at

[44:34] UCLA. It's called affect labeling. And

[44:38] when you start to label what you're

[44:40] feeling and notice it and pause, it

[44:42] reduces the activity in the emotional

[44:44] center of your brain. Isn't that cool?

[44:46] And I've absolutely noticed that this

[44:49] technique works. It's not easy to do,

[44:52] but you can get better and better at the

[44:53] skill. You just recognize when you get

[44:56] emotionally flooded. You name it, you

[44:58] pause.

[45:00] That emotion dissipates quickly and it

[45:03] is so effective. And this next one is

[45:07] from a listener who's going through a

[45:09] really tough breakup. She's even used

[45:11] the broken heart emoji in the question.

[45:15] Let's talk about breakups.

[45:17] Breakups are painful because the future

[45:21] that you thought you'd be living just

[45:24] died.

[45:26] Breakups are grief.

[45:28] And when you are completely rocked by a

[45:31] breakup,

[45:33] it's not a sign that the right person

[45:35] got away. It's just a sign that the time

[45:39] that you spent with that person

[45:41] mattered.

[45:42] The relationship mattered. That's it.

[45:46] And I want you to really think about

[45:47] breakups differently.

[45:49] Breakups are grief because you had this

[45:53] whole vision and this whole life where

[45:55] you learned how to do life with this

[45:58] person. And when the relationship ends,

[46:02] it forces you to unlearn doing life with

[46:06] someone. That's one of the reasons why

[46:09] they're so painful. You're going through

[46:13] a withdrawal in every single part of

[46:17] your body.

[46:19] That's why you can be driving down the

[46:21] road and you're thinking about something

[46:23] and you can hear the person answering.

[46:26] It's like they're sitting right there.

[46:28] only you're broken up and you don't want

[46:29] to be thinking about the person. Well,

[46:31] the reason why that happens is not

[46:32] because the person's thinking about you

[46:34] and it's not because that ex of yours

[46:36] should be in the car with you. It's

[46:39] because your brain

[46:41] has been wired to hear that person's

[46:44] voice. Your brain is used to hearing

[46:47] their response. And your brain is in the

[46:50] middle of unlearning what that's like.

[46:52] You're breaking patterns, which is why

[46:56] you feel in your body like everything is

[46:58] breaking apart because it is breaking

[47:01] apart.

[47:03] It's a withdrawal. And that's why in the

[47:06] let them theory, we wrote extensively

[47:10] about exactly what you need to do in

[47:14] order to get through a breakup. Number

[47:17] one, you have to go 30 days with no

[47:20] contact. Period. 30 days. And the reason

[47:24] why you have to go 30 days is I want you

[47:26] to think about it like um trying to get

[47:28] over anything. Smoking, drinking,

[47:32] vaping, the Zin packs, gambling. If

[47:37] you're going to go and quit something,

[47:41] you can't just go 15 days and then have

[47:44] some bourbon on the rocks and expect for

[47:46] it not to impact you. Because the second

[47:49] 15 days in, you have more bourbon,

[47:52] everything in your body that knows what

[47:53] alcohol is like gets reactivated. The

[47:56] same thing is true when you go through a

[47:58] breakup. If you're constantly listening

[48:01] to voice memos, following them on social

[48:03] media, looking at old photos, you are

[48:06] giving your body input that that person

[48:08] is still in your life. And it keeps all

[48:11] the wiring in your body and all those

[48:13] patterns alive. And so, you have to go

[48:15] 30 days no contact. And it's important

[48:18] to know that there's really good

[48:20] research that most people start feeling

[48:24] better about 11 and 1/2 weeks after a

[48:27] breakup. 11 and 1/2 weeks. Because it

[48:30] takes time.

[48:33] And you have to give yourself the space

[48:35] and the time to unlearn life with this

[48:39] other person. That's the single most

[48:42] important step to moving on. And in the

[48:46] let them theory, we wrote about some

[48:48] recommendations that really help

[48:51] particularly in those first three

[48:54] months. Let me read to you. This is on

[48:56] page uh 286. How every ending is a

[49:00] beautiful beginning. All this sadness

[49:02] that you're feeling is a mentally

[49:04] healthy response to heartbreak. And when

[49:06] you're ready, there are a couple things

[49:08] based on the research that will help you

[49:10] accept that the relationship is over and

[49:13] that it's time for you to pick up the

[49:14] pieces of your life and move forward.

[49:17] Now, these recommendations are how you

[49:19] can get started on settling your nervous

[49:21] system and moving through this breakup

[49:24] in a healthier way because it's not time

[49:26] that heals. It's what you do with that

[49:29] time that matters.

[49:31] Number one, you want to make sure that

[49:33] you remove all environmental triggers in

[49:37] your apartment, your room, your house. I

[49:40] want you to take every visible reminder,

[49:41] trinket, shirt, picture, get them out of

[49:43] your sight. Now, you don't need to burn

[49:45] anything or do something psycho. That's

[49:46] not what we're doing here because you

[49:48] are a mature person that's moving

[49:49] forward. The issue here is we want to

[49:52] get them out of your sight. Just put

[49:53] them in a box and stick them out of

[49:55] sight. The patterns of this person are

[49:57] so hardwired in your body and mind that

[50:00] simply seeing things that remind you of

[50:02] them will stop you from moving forward.

[50:05] Two, give your bedroom a small makeover.

[50:08] Chances are you spent a lot of time

[50:09] together in your bedroom. Giving your

[50:12] bedroom a refresh really helps signal to

[50:14] you that a new chapter is beginning. You

[50:17] could paint a wall. You could get cool

[50:19] removable wallpaper. Get new sheets or a

[50:21] new comforter. Move your furniture

[50:23] around. It really helps. Three, reach

[50:27] out to friends, siblings, cousins,

[50:28] co-workers because there's an empty

[50:31] space that this person left that needs

[50:32] to be filled. You need support, so ask

[50:35] for it. There's nothing to be

[50:37] embarrassed about. Every one of us have

[50:39] gone through a breakup, and we

[50:41] understand how horrible it can be. And

[50:43] you can also ask people to check in on

[50:44] you and to invite you to get out of your

[50:46] apartment so you're not sitting there

[50:48] sulking like a loser, cuz you're not a

[50:50] loser. You just lost something you

[50:52] thought that you were going to have

[50:54] forever. Four, this is super important.

[50:56] Fill up your calendar. Now is the time

[50:58] to reach out to friends, make plans, cuz

[51:01] you do not want to see an empty calendar

[51:03] with a broken heart. Distraction helps.

[51:07] Nothing is worse for a breakup than an

[51:10] idle mind. And if you don't have things

[51:11] to keep you busy, you will busy yourself

[51:14] by thinking about them and looking up

[51:16] photos of them. You cannot trust

[51:18] yourself right now. And five, pick a

[51:21] challenge you've always wanted to do.

[51:23] Because when you go through a breakup,

[51:25] it's easy to feel like you are defined

[51:28] by the ending of this relationship.

[51:31] And that does not define you. That's

[51:33] just an experience and a chapter in your

[51:36] life that's ended. You can proactively

[51:39] pick a challenge, whether it's climbing

[51:41] a certain mountain or running a marathon

[51:44] or completing your first 5K, whatever it

[51:47] may be. And that challenge that you're

[51:49] working on that makes you proud of

[51:51] yourself

[51:53] gives you another way to define that you

[51:57] have value, that you're moving forward.

[52:00] It's super important, super important

[52:03] that you choose something for you that

[52:05] you're doing for yourself, that you're

[52:06] proud of because there's just no better

[52:10] feeling. And finally,

[52:13] I love this one. Keep asking yourself

[52:15] this question. If you knew the love of

[52:17] your life was around the corner and this

[52:21] breakup was bringing you one step closer

[52:24] to meeting them, how would you spend

[52:26] your nights and weekends while you're

[52:29] still single? See, I think one of the

[52:31] biggest fears that we have when you go

[52:33] through a breakup is you think you're

[52:35] going to be alone forever. You think

[52:37] you're never going to find anyone as

[52:39] good as the person who just walked out

[52:41] the door. That's actually not true. Not

[52:44] true at all.

[52:46] And how you spend your time as you're

[52:48] single sends a really important signal

[52:52] to your brain about what's coming and

[52:55] the kind of person that you are now.

[53:00] You're going to be just fine. I know it

[53:02] sucks, but you got to go 30 days and

[53:04] you're going to feel a whole lot better.

[53:07] All right, let's take this next

[53:09] question. Should I start a meaningful

[53:11] career change? Heart says yes. head is

[53:15] not sure. All right. When you're making

[53:18] a decision and your heart says yes and

[53:20] your head says no, always follow your

[53:24] heart because your heart and your head

[53:29] have very different roles in decision-m.

[53:32] Let me explain. Your heart gives you the

[53:37] what. It gives you the sense of

[53:39] direction. It gives you the yes or the

[53:42] no. Your head gives you the when and the

[53:47] how.

[53:49] And this is how you're going to leverage

[53:50] your heart and your head in order to

[53:53] make better decisions. So, if you're

[53:56] struggling to make a decision, I want

[53:58] you to get very, very, very quiet, okay?

[54:00] Cuz the answers are not out there. The

[54:03] answers are in here. And I want you to

[54:06] sit with the decision that you need to

[54:10] make. Whether it's

[54:13] changing your career, changing where you

[54:15] live, changing your relationship,

[54:20] sit very quiet.

[54:22] And here's what I want you to think

[54:24] about.

[54:26] If you roll the clock forward a year

[54:30] and you've changed nothing,

[54:33] what does your life look like?

[54:36] What does it feel like?

[54:40] And you're going to immediately have a

[54:44] reaction

[54:46] because if you change nothing, nothing

[54:48] changes. And the way you're currently

[54:50] doing your life does have a destination.

[54:52] We don't really think about it. It is

[54:54] leading you somewhere.

[54:56] And if you don't do anything now, a year

[54:59] from now, you're going to look up and

[55:02] your life is going to feel exactly how

[55:04] it feels right now.

[55:06] Now, I want you to consider the

[55:08] alternative in your heart. Let's say you

[55:10] make the change. You change your

[55:13] relationship. You change the job. You

[55:15] change where you live. You do the thing

[55:18] that you've been nervous about doing.

[55:21] What does your life feel like a year

[55:23] from now?

[55:25] There you are in a new job. There you

[55:28] are living in a new place. There you are

[55:31] either so happy and you're single or

[55:34] you're in a different relationship.

[55:37] And I want you to notice

[55:39] what does it feel like in your heart?

[55:42] Because there's two very distinct

[55:44] feelings that you're going to have.

[55:47] You're either going to feel your heart

[55:49] expand a little bit. You're going to

[55:53] feel your heart pulling you toward

[55:56] something

[55:58] or

[55:59] you're going to feel your heart start to

[56:03] shrink.

[56:05] You're going to feel energy that sort of

[56:08] contracts.

[56:11] That's how your heart gives you a yes or

[56:13] a no. If in thinking about the change

[56:17] and imagining what life could look like

[56:20] a year from now, your heart starts to

[56:22] expand, that's a yes. Your heart just

[56:25] gave you direction. It's telling you

[56:28] that's meant for you. Even if you're

[56:29] nervous about it, even if you're unsure,

[56:32] you just got the answer.

[56:35] If your heart starts to, "Oh, God, no. I

[56:39] I I can't imagine living somewhere else.

[56:41] Oh, I don't I I I I can't imagine being

[56:43] with somebody else. It just like

[56:46] contracts. That's a no.

[56:49] So, you're going to drop in, close your

[56:51] eyes, roll the clock forward, and

[56:53] imagine if I do nothing and nothing

[56:55] changes,

[56:58] how do I feel about my life? And then

[57:01] you're going to think about if I change,

[57:04] new job, new place,

[57:07] how do I feel? And if your heart

[57:10] expands, the answer is yes. Now, that

[57:12] takes us up to your noggin because

[57:16] you're not going to use your head to

[57:18] figure out the right answer. You already

[57:20] did that with your heart.

[57:22] What you're going to use your head for

[57:23] is the when am I making this decision,

[57:26] how am I making this decision, what is

[57:29] the right way to make this decision in

[57:31] terms of, you know, being responsible

[57:34] because you can know today that it's a

[57:36] hell yes that you're changing your

[57:38] career, but it wouldn't be a smart

[57:41] decision for you to quit your job today

[57:44] because you need the money. You also

[57:47] don't know what you want to do yet and

[57:48] you want to build yourself a runway. You

[57:51] use your mind to help create the plan

[57:55] that gets you moving in the direction

[57:58] that your heart unmistakably

[58:01] is telling you to go.

[58:04] That feels like the perfect question to

[58:08] end on today because if there's one

[58:10] thing that I hope you take away from

[58:14] this is that you are allowed to change

[58:18] your mind. You're allowed to change your

[58:20] life. You're allowed to move. You're

[58:24] allowed to want more energy and passion

[58:27] and better health and a different career

[58:29] and stronger friendships. You're allowed

[58:32] to believe that the love of your life is

[58:35] just around the corner and this breakup

[58:38] is taking you one step further.

[58:41] And you do not have to have everything

[58:44] figured out in order to start. You just

[58:47] have to pay attention to what your heart

[58:48] is telling you, to what gives you

[58:51] energy.

[58:53] And if you do that, I promise you, you

[58:57] will never ever ever go wrong. And in

[59:01] case no one else tells you today, I

[59:04] wanted to be sure to tell you that I

[59:06] love you and I believe in you and I

[59:08] believe in your ability to create a

[59:10] better life. All righty, I will see you

[59:13] in the very next episode. I'm going to

[59:14] welcome you in the moment you hit play.

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[1:04:11] way for you to say thanks Mel, thanks

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[1:04:18] Mel, what episode of the Mel Robbins

[1:04:20] podcast should I watch next? Oh, you're

[1:04:22] going to love this one. I'll welcome you

[1:04:24] in the moment you hit play.

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Mel Robbins says yes, at least once in your life, and especially in your twenties. She argues that physical distance can make you feel closer to family emotionally, because you stop taking them for granted. Guilt, in her view, reflects how much the relationship matters rather than a reason to stay.
In the episode she recommends the Red Rising series by Pierce Brown, Firefly Lane by Kristin Hannah, and Correspondent by Virginia Evans, among five picks. She reads Red Rising partly because her son Oakley loves it and she wanted something to share with him.
Robbins suggests passion is not a hidden object you find but something you build through action. Her practical approach is to deliberately insert something small and energizing into your week and keep doing it until you notice a shift.
She recommends noticing the emotion, returning to your breath, and naming what you feel, drawing on her work on labeling emotions. She also says asking for help is a valid part of the process. The goal is regulation rather than suppression.
Robbins frames a breakup as the loss of something you thought would last, and she advises naming the grief rather than reading the ending as proof something was wrong with you. She treats returns to old patterns as chances to choose differently.
The episode includes a segment called 3 Fitness Tips to Get Stronger and Healthier, and Robbins describes a simple routine that includes creatine, a protein-forward start to the day, and fiber. She favors sustainable habits over perfect plans.

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